Power Rank 08/07/2008

On August 07 2008 15:10 ShinyGerbil wrote:
i completely agree with the first 7, but i think 8-10 should go as such:

8 - Jangbi: still the best PvT around and after tieing (and then beating flash) he's showing no sign of remorse
9 - Canata: the king of TvT is certainly still around. some brilliant games at the end of this proleague season should land him this spot.
10 - EffOrt: an up and coming zerg that has been winning some nice games against Kal, FBH, etc.

On August 07 2008 15:24 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Its scary how much I...disagree with everything on this power rank.

On August 07 2008 15:24 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Its scary how much I...disagree with everything on this power rank. The only placements I can remotely agree with are Kal, Jaedong, and FORGG. Flash is playing too bad for 3, Julys zvt is too untested for 4, Leta has done nothing but proleague, and despite the good games, I doubt he deserves six, best took a massive drop despite his only failings to be a in a pvz that we all knew he was weak in, against july who we all knew was strong in that particular match up to an absurd degree, and Midas and Iris, while playing good- more midas than Iris- I'm not entirely convinced are quite the right choices. Though, the very bottom of the power rank hardly concerns me, so I suppose I'll let them be, but in general just...wow, I cant believe how disagree able this power rank is. It's so outrageous, I'm not even going to debate it any further.

Edit: You know what, under further consideration [its 2:30 and yes I am lazy enough not to rewrite my entire post, but just leave it there] I don't disagree with everything. There are a lot of people teetering on worthiness of the bottom of the power rank, and I suppose Iris/Midas are just as justifiable as anyone else who has had a good run. Likewise, despite the fact that I think Flash should be lower-ordinarily, there is simply no one to fill in the gap, so he stays due to the fact that we have had a slow month, and nothing can prove otherwise definitively. Leta's games have been amazing though, but I still disagree with such a high placement, and Best's being so low [despite my hatred of him] I also disagree with the lux/july order [despite my lover of July], but hey. So no, not that bad of a power rank, wacky but...well we have had a slow inconsistent month, what can be said.

On August 07 2008 15:35 Raiju wrote:


Give us your power rank then douchebag.

Edit: Your are no longer a douchebag since ur edit

On August 07 2008 14:48 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Forgg!!!!

Flash vs backho on wuthering heights was like a tvp textbook on its own imba flash

On August 07 2008 17:27 xxsaznpride wrote:
Hate to say it, but I don't think Flash deserves #3. Maybe 4 or 5, but not 3. Then again, I wouldn't know how the hell to justify what I'm saying. Next month, after Flash mutilates Jaedong's withered, overnuked shell of a body in the GSI, he's gonna be #1, right?

Oh and, has anyone else noticed that, from the first PR, each month's has gotten progressively longer?

edit: good pr =P

On August 07 2008 18:59 o3.power91 wrote:
This is one of the better power ranks I've seen in a while (not including the one when Sea[shield] was #1).

Probably the only 2 criticisms i have are:

-Flash deserves to be higher ranked than Jaedong (Flash is in both major leagues whereas Jaedong is in only 1 of them)

-I dunno why Midas is in. I'm a fan of his and I'm happy he's in the power rank. It's just i dunno why hes in I mean if you look at his games in TLPD, he's 1-2 for the month July This is of course putting aside the fact that he's in one of the major leagues.

On August 07 2008 18:50 Seku wrote:
disgusting

On August 07 2008 16:45 Bifur wrote:
IMHO, Kal doesn't deserve his spot. After his defeat from non-pro BByong, he should be put away from power rank.

On August 08 2008 02:51 3 Lions wrote:

WHY????

On August 08 2008 02:51 3 Lions wrote:

WHY????

On August 09 2008 02:15 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
leta is a better player than backho

leta's ability to play starcraft exceeds that of backho

you think backho should be rewarded for getting trashed by good players over and over simply because he gets to play them?

On August 09 2008 02:15 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
leta is a better player than backho

leta's ability to play starcraft exceeds that of backho

you think backho should be rewarded for getting trashed by good players over and over simply because he gets to play them?

On August 07 2008 15:18 Kuja900 wrote:
OK HANG ON THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE

steve you love my fav player julyzerg, you share a birthday with me, you have an iron maiden pic in your profile which is my fav band and best of all time period. OK im paying for you to get the surgery we are getting married.

oh nice power rank btw

On August 09 2008 05:56 AttackZerg wrote:



btw how does backho get to play them?

I think he earns it ... no?

On August 09 2008 05:53 AttackZerg wrote:



BackHo made it to the semi-finals of 3 different starleagues .... in a row

OSL,MSL,gOm intel classic.... umm Leta hasn't ..... I hate BackHo alot but he is accomplished alot more then Leta FOR SURE.

On August 09 2008 07:29 DeadVessel wrote:

BackHo is terrible, did you even watch his games vs July? His game on Hwasangbul was the dumbest game I've ever seen.

On August 09 2008 07:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


nope. cheesing soft opponents doesn't get much credit on a rank based around playing well. backho is not a good player. even with everyone freaking out about the magical "results" he's getting, he can't win more than he loses.

On August 09 2008 07:29 DeadVessel wrote:

BackHo is terrible, did you even watch his games vs July? His game on Hwasangbul was the dumbest game I've ever seen.

On August 10 2008 05:03 SerpentFlame wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong, but Casy beat one mediocre protoss and two terrans on his way up from the OSL, with his semifinals and finals being against Zerg players. Backho beat Ganzi (in a less than impressive game, granted), Jaedong, and Casy on his way up in both GomTV and OSL (and as mentioned before, watching most of Backho's PvT games show that Backho actually has skill in that matchup). Casy beating IntoTheRainBOw, whether by cheese or no, doesn't say any more about Casy than Backho beating Jaedong says about Backho; Casy PvT is on par with sub-B class protosses.

And of course, in the last month, Backho's been 8-3 against Protoss, with his two losses to stork and one against Jangbi (WCG being a less prestigious tournament anyways, but that asides). Maybe Much severely dropped the ball when he attacked his own forge with 10+ dragoons, but the other players (Bisu Stork Jangbi etc.) didn't. Watching the games (with the exception of Backho vs Much) demonstrates that Backho won with skill, and not luck. That looks like consistency to me.

I don't by any means think Backho should be up there on the PR for this month, but his contention for being on the list should be given some more consideration than just a running joke, despite the fact that his PvZ is, well, a joke.

On August 10 2008 06:36 SerpentFlame wrote:
Wait, I thought he played...
Jangbi - 3
Stork - 4
Bisu - 1
Much - 1
Chalrenge -1
Kal - 1 ( I heard someone mention Backho beating Kal earlier? not entirely sure this exists)

On August 11 2008 13:46 hi19hi19 wrote:
Why so few dominant protoss lately?

On August 12 2008 08:56 ilbh wrote:
no stork? did you forget him?

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 12 2008 08:56 ilbh wrote:
no stork? did you forget him?

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 12 2008 18:26 samachking wrote:


Forgg played 3 Bo3s in the same day, practicing for 2 match ups with diffrent maps, give him a break. He is still the best player out there and it will stay that way for a couple of months.

On August 12 2008 19:31 raga4ka wrote:


I don't think he is the best player he doesn't seem too dominant when i watch his games , he has good macro but he has weaknesses too . I mean he lost to Much and almost lost to Bisu on Blue storm given he had 3 Bo3 he performed well . I think his TvP style is a little diffrent then Flash's or Minds . I think that mind has the strongest TvP . But all props goes to Much who i think has the strongest PvT around with JangBI .ForGG doesn't seem to have the spark of a true #1 , but because other players are in slumps or are just playing worse only Jaedong comes near him . Seriously Jaedong is the only competidive player for a long time now . He drops a game or two (sets unlikely but still happens ) and he still comes back and owns the next big shot who is threatening his position . ForGG being his teammate obviously has an advantage compare to Flash or other strong players because he is familiar with his timings and styles more then other Pros and that is why he had the edge in that final . And that is why he will be # 1 if he doesn't start to suck which he will sooner or later .

On August 13 2008 05:55 TheTyranid wrote:
In 4 days the top 2 PR spots will be determined. Jaedong and Forgg have ony WCG left to play in. It is pretty much guaranteed that JD and Forgg will get top 2. The only way Flash or Lux, the only candidates for top 2, can surpass them is by winning WCG and staying in the SLs; the 1'st I doubt they will accomplish.

On August 13 2008 19:00 raga4ka wrote:


Or Much just rapeing all and skyrocketing from CNBC to first place . Now that will be epic !!!

On August 14 2008 15:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Stork 2:0 fOrGG

Also he avenged his freak loss to BackHo and embarrassed the hell out of Luxury.

Just throwin' that out there...

of course he had to go and lose to Bisu

On August 13 2008 05:59 3 Lions wrote:
with these koreans going, korea will get Gold, Silver, and Bronze @ WCG unless they run into each other before the semifinals

On August 15 2008 12:48 NexyNexy wrote:
LOL what happened to sea? Did forgg agree to a TL attack xD

This is a joke. ForGG should not be rank number 1 (yes i've read the ranking system). PLease stop joking around witht his, give JD number 1....

On May 07 2008 11:07 thedeadhaji wrote:
You heard it here first.

Lecaf is forcing ForGG to use micro oriented strats to improve his atrocious micro.

When he attains it, he will be monster.

On August 15 2008 12:48 NexyNexy wrote:
LOL what happened to sea? Did forgg agree to a TL attack xD

This is a joke. ForGG should not be rank number 1 (yes i've read the ranking system). PLease stop joking around witht his, give JD number 1....

On August 15 2008 18:13 Tinithor wrote:
I think forgg should still be #2 next month atleast. Losing to much and stork TvP is nothing to be ashamed of. Especially since he's been practicing for 3 leagues simultaneously. Also i don't think you can even count losing to much against him. He had to play 8 games on the same day. Gotta give the guy a break.

On August 16 2008 06:31 TheTyranid wrote:
Luxury just got eliminated from an SL by a no name toss.

On August 16 2008 22:27 adelarge wrote:


Didn't Jaedong get eliminated by a no name toss too?

On August 17 2008 00:31 raga4ka wrote:


Yeah after that he raped Flash and BEST so i don't know what to expect WTF , but no Jaedong in freaking OSL . It is gonna be boring without him . Oh well i hope July can get his white gold mouse next

On August 17 2008 02:50 Mindcrime wrote:


There is no white gold mouse.

On August 17 2008 04:38 Kupon3ss wrote:
well, in many languages, their word(s) for plat does directly translate into white gold, and white gold is a common name for gold anyways

On August 16 2008 22:27 adelarge wrote:


Didn't Jaedong get eliminated by a no name toss too?

On August 17 2008 05:37 TheTyranid wrote:

Doesn't matter since Jaedong is going to be 1'st next month.

Oh and Stork is back on the PR.

On August 17 2008 04:30 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:

plat mouse

plat != white gold but

alot of people make that mistake

On August 18 2008 01:53 OmgIRok wrote:
How did Luxury get put below July? -________-

On August 18 2008 04:01 thunk wrote:
5 terrans, 2 protosses, and 3 zergs. And who said the maps were P weighted?

On August 17 2008 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


Someone suggested putting Stork on PR to FS in IRC and he told them to go die.

On August 18 2008 04:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


the fact that there are five terrans on the power rank simply means that five of the best current players are terran

it doesnt say anything about the maps

On August 18 2008 03:38 raga4ka wrote:


Because he isn't The God of WAR maybe ?

ZvP man zvp ... Back then July won the golden mouse and Luxury just couldn't live up to the expectation even to reach the finals . It is the same with BEST who should have been above both but failed .Maybe next month he will be higher then July , because of the performance this month . I would rather have July above Luxury just because he doesn't seem weak versus protoss and that is what he will be geting in his OSL group or so i hear ... Lets see if July can get a fourth one .

If i'm not mistaken Much and Bisu are in July's OSL group , and i don't have doubts in my mind that JulyZerg will either cheese or Sauron the life out ot them ...

On August 18 2008 16:30 OmgIRok wrote:



But Bisu is good PvZ! He invented Bisu build

On August 18 2008 16:30 OmgIRok wrote:



But Bisu is good PvZ! He invented Bisu build

On August 18 2008 11:10 TheTyranid wrote:

If Stork passes MST and ODT (OSL ro 36, w/e, practically ODT), he won't have a choice.

On August 17 2008 13:15 Februarys wrote:
I'm a biased Jaedong fan but he's been doing incredibly well despite his loss verse forGG lately.

Just 2-0'd the 2nd best ZvZ Luxury
3-0'd Flash
Beat Best

Yes, fOrgg did manage to beat Jaedong but if he loses to players like Much & Stork, I don't see how he can hold his #1 spot

On August 21 2008 09:40 ScarFace wrote:
I wanna see Jangbi on number ten. Hes on a 8 game win streak in pvz, same pvt as always [read great], and despite getting cheesed out of the osl by light [damn him to hell] hes in the msl, will probably go far, and is genuinely strong in all match ups. He looks good enough to be 10 for me- but thats the thing, he looks good now. Jangbi is so god damn inconsistent.

On August 21 2008 08:26 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
there are 30 players i could name off the top of my head that i'd fully expect to bulldoze an ODT group that consists of fucking tester and dongrae

On August 21 2008 18:35 ThePhan2m wrote:

both those are good players. the fact that stork won without much problem, is a sign that he has returned strong, he hasnt lost much during the last months. So either you like it or not, Stork will soon yet again become PR material

On August 22 2008 00:05 Phradamon wrote:
Jangbi took a beating from Light in bo3, i want Much (uber games vs forGG) and Stork (qualified, finalist on WCG Korea, as always losing the final) on 9 and 10 spots.

On August 22 2008 04:04 Tinithor wrote:
I still stand by what i said that Carriers are IMPOSSIBLE to beat on Plasma. Light was VERY prepared for them by the time Jangbi had them but theres just nothing he could do with the ridges everywhere.

On August 22 2008 07:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Plasma is actually very, very hard TvP. Don't be fooled by the current record on it, Terran will have a hellacious time winning any games against Protoss on it

On August 22 2008 07:48 ScarFace wrote:
Hmm, I'm not sure about the late game, but I know Terran have a huge opportunity to simply roll over the protoss before their economy gets going.

On August 22 2008 08:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


That's not true. In fact, it's less true than it is on other maps.

On August 23 2008 23:58 errol1001 wrote:



Why is that? From my perspective, it looks like it's a lot harder to mess with the terran before they have their tanks + siege mode, and once they have those, the eggs are pretty much no barrier at all. And then the bases are really close. Protoss doesn't have any opportunity to slow the advance like on a map such as Blue Storm.

On August 25 2008 20:02 HaXxorIzed wrote:
Midas has well and truly returned the love of Fakesteve. : )

On August 26 2008 02:51 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
If Fakesteve follows through on his Stork boycott for August I might have to make my own subversive PR.

On August 26 2008 10:36 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
FBH is a great player, but hasn't been top 10 material for quite some time. Personally I'm a huge fan, but he won't be in the top 10 next month.

Fantasy is another player I really like. I was confident he'd win his MST group, and he did. I was confident he'd win his OSL Round 1 group, and he did. However, while the ability to play at the level Fantasy plays at is to be commended, the ability to play like that through a major league is another beast altogether. Fantasy rules ass, in my mind he's one of the best Terrans around. We'll have to see where he goes in MSL/OSL. Or perhaps he'll find himself at the bottom of September's PR, depending on what the list I'm satisfied with is.

On August 16 2008 06:31 TheTyranid wrote:

The real reason why Forgg should be #2 next month is because there is no other player who deserves that spot. Flash was stomed in GSL and WCG and Luxury just got eliminated from an SL by a no name toss. Who can take it, Leta? Much? he is hot in only 1 match up and isn't even on the PR. Forgg is a definite second.

On August 27 2008 13:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:



If FBH brushes up his TvP, I feel we could see much better play out of him. Champion material? Not even, but he could probbaly make it to RO38 of any starleague. Problem is, he's probably too weathered to make a huge difference in his play now.

I agree about Fantasy, what a badass.

And Leta too, holy fuck. I'd be shocked if he wasn't in the top 4 next PR tbh.

On August 28 2008 00:31 Shinrei wrote:


Well that no-name toss is Tempest)Is( and he has been a pro for a long time. And did you even watch that game? Tempest is no bad player.

On August 28 2008 04:27 TheTyranid wrote:

If you have been a pro for one year and have only played 5 televized games you are a no name in my eyes when you come up against someone like Luxury.

The point of the post was that Luxury is in no contention for a top spot. Luxury was a heavy favourite against tempest and lossing to him and being eliminated from an SL is going to knock Luxury into a lower spot. So even if tempest played really well, it doesn't change the fact that Lux is going to get dropped in the rankings.

On August 28 2008 05:16 samachking wrote:


That same noname toss you are talking about 2-0'd July out of the MSL in the offline qualifiers, and July is arguablly top 3 ZvP with Luxury and Jaedong joining him.If anything this means Tempest is one player to look out for and its not Luxury's weakness.

On August 28 2008 05:24 Fwmeh wrote:

I generally would agree, and Tempest certainly didn't play bad. But Luxury made several mistakes, most notably canceling his lair. Plain and simple, Luxury didn't play like the 5th best player in the world, neither in that game, or in the losers match. Failing to play your best when needed the most generally lead to demotion on the PR.

On August 28 2008 09:00 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Is Sea making the September power rank, or does he have to prove he can get past the Ro16 in a Starleague first? 8-2 in August and in both leagues is better than just about everyone else.

On August 27 2008 13:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:



If FBH brushes up his TvP, I feel we could see much better play out of him. Champion material? Not even, but he could probbaly make it to RO38 of any starleague. Problem is, he's probably too weathered to make a huge difference in his play now.

I agree about Fantasy, what a badass.

And Leta too, holy fuck. I'd be shocked if he wasn't in the top 4 next PR tbh.

On August 28 2008 10:47 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


Yes, Sea will be on the power rank. He destroyed basically everyone he played, and looked great doing it.

On August 28 2008 13:39 ScarFace wrote:
What about Jangbi and Kal?

;_;

On August 28 2008 13:39 ScarFace wrote:
What about Jangbi and Kal?

;_;

On August 28 2008 07:02 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

And fear not, Much fans. I see a return in the future

On August 29 2008 07:44 ScarFace wrote:
Much is so odd, hes hot one month, going far, slips just a bit- still a great player, contender for 10th, 11th, etc, and then the next month hes back to good old much. He's being doing this since like...the GSI?

On August 29 2008 16:13 Dealer wrote:
Stork IS the 2nd player in the world atm, 2nd only to JD.

On August 29 2008 16:13 Dealer wrote:
Stork IS the 2nd player in the world atm, 2nd only to JD.

On August 31 2008 08:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:

there is no 2nd place that is out of Stork's reach.

On August 31 2008 17:56 Nick_54 wrote:
I'm just going to throw Bisu's name out there for CBNC since he has had a decent month qualifying for both leagues. Being able to take a bo3 from Iris when hes in decent form is an acheivment.

On September 01 2008 11:32 sillyboy_tomato wrote:
I got to say that Stork DESERVES a spot in the PR next week. so does bisu again.

also i HAVE to see Leta in like top5 in the next one. I bet Zerg will take 1 and 2. Leta will maybe 3. Then Stork

On September 02 2008 08:19 Deathwizard77 wrote:
I think you all are forgetting that I find it very unlikely Sea does not get #1 after his sign on the picture.

On September 02 2008 22:37 Scorch wrote:
when does the next pr arrive, steve?

On August 30 2008 01:59 ScarFace wrote:
LMFAO

On September 06 2008 04:18 Dealer wrote:


Name any player (Jae excluded) that played better during august.

When you fail, learn the basics about this game...

Sure, Stork had it easy in OGN quals, so did many others, and failed. Stork raped his group.

He flew past the WCG qualifier, never looked in danger from what i saw (the final was a joke fyi).

On September 06 2008 05:23 3 Lions wrote:
jaedong is first ez, with Flash or Stork in 2nd, as they are still in both leagues

On September 06 2008 10:57 ThePhan2m wrote:
when you say, "jaedong 1st ez" you dont take in count that he failed to qualify to OSL?

On September 06 2008 13:32 xenero wrote:

You don't take into the account that
A) that was last month and
B)He RAPED the Shit out of everyone he faced in the WCG, no one was even close to beating. Nowhere , they were as close as the chances of me getting a CJ shirt.

On September 06 2008 18:54 Phradamon wrote:
So, next PR:
1. Definatelly Jaedong - bestmonth since november
2. Stork - raping shit, choking in finals
3. Flash - beating JD in All Star, in both leagues
4. Much - beat fOrGG, Flash, embarass FBH
5. Sea - walking over, loosing to Calm
6. July - some quiet games but good in WCG
7. Leta - very good
8. Luxury - 3rd in WCG, 1 league qualified, one lost
9. BeSt[HyO]- took beatings from all above
10. fOrGG - beat by Much and others

CNBC: JangBi, Bisu, Mind, GGPlay, Thezerg, RuBy, Midas YellOw[ArnC], BackHo,

On September 07 2008 08:38 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
dont think there was much to rate players this month just because i got the impression there r no fuckin games played at all

On September 06 2008 18:54 Phradamon wrote:
10. fOrGG - beat by Much and others

On September 07 2008 23:55 Ohforf wrote:
when's the PR gonna be up? you promised two days ago and it still isn't up. Much blood will be shed if its not up soon..

On September 08 2008 03:15 3 Lions wrote:

no you can't because it is not possible to compare Backho to Stork or Flash

On September 08 2008 03:15 3 Lions wrote:

no you can't because it is not possible to compare Backho to Stork or Flash

On September 07 2008 23:55 Ohforf wrote:
when's the PR gonna be up? you promised two days ago and it still isn't up. Much blood will be shed if its not up soon..

On September 09 2008 00:42 Polar_Bear wrote:
let's speculate 'bout the new ranking; my guess:
1. Jaedong
2. Stork (hot as hell: imba PvT, raped the shit out of Luxury and Much; one of the fav. in the OSL and the WCG)
3. forgg (you can't really count his loss vs. Much, very unlucky timetable)
4. Flash
5. Much (the old man is doing well again)
6. Luxury (a little shaky lately)
7. Midas
8. Sea (maybe this time he'll be able to make it to the ro4 in a league)
9. Best (not that great recently)
10. Leta
CBNC: Bisu (actually we might see his comeback; impressive vs. Iris, only P who stands a chance vs. Jaedong; sad to say, group A is as difficult as the finals), July (pretty poor OSL champion, only 1 good matchup), FBH

On September 08 2008 05:23 Nick_54 wrote:


I'm just saying that Stork and Flash making both leagues automatically makes them better than a player like ForGG

Edit: Hopefully time does not fly by again and we miss another month power rank.

On September 07 2008 23:40 o3.power91 wrote:


Dont forget, ForGG had 3 Bo3's to practice for on the same day. He 2-0'd BIsu and 2-1 Shark that day. Much is no noob, so its not an easy task for ForGG

On September 09 2008 11:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


Leta jumps down to ten?

He's hot as FUCK right now. He dropped one game to Canata after a ten game win-streak, then proceeded to victory against Shuttle. Leta is doing better than BeSt, he's doing better than Much AND Lux.

He's amazing these days. Fantasy needs CBNC, also.