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Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
April 28 2008 19:48 GMT
#61
I voted E, thinking it was the obvious choice, but then I see this landslide with group A?
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
April 28 2008 19:57 GMT
#62
I think group E will be hardest to predict, as the skill levels are all very high, but group A has mondi in it ofc. Voted E because I think the games will be the best
more weight
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
April 28 2008 20:26 GMT
#63
yeah i voted for group E, didn't expect such a largin margin for group A
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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
April 28 2008 21:16 GMT
#64
Even though mondi and mistrzzzz are favourites, both leg and gosia have proved themselves as well. Mondragon vs Mistrzzz could go either way really, and if gosia pulls an upset zvz mondragon would be out. Same for mistrzzzz, except zvp; Sorry but i think has the least of the chances here. He could amaze us though.
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pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
April 28 2008 22:04 GMT
#65
I did A, but I though H was also extremely tough
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TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
April 28 2008 22:44 GMT
#66
I think E will produce better games than the other groups
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
April 28 2008 23:34 GMT
#67
I hope Leg advances. I hate to be a hater, but I hope MiztrezzZ gets the short end of the stick in group A.
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drift0ut
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United Kingdom691 Posts
April 28 2008 23:49 GMT
#68
way to spoil the replays, went out of my way to not read the results in the thread then half a glance at the pole and i see leg get through. ah well, it was necessary.
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
April 29 2008 00:36 GMT
#69
A for sure
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
April 29 2008 01:40 GMT
#70
A definitely, but hopefully Leg can pull some skills and squeeze through >_<
Oh no
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-29 01:56:31
April 29 2008 01:53 GMT
#71
On April 28 2008 10:08 JoMal wrote:
Mondi and the Legend !!!!
That is enough for me ^^

I mean, A is not "hardest" as in "most disputed, harder to predict". But it's "hardest" as in "most skill summed up" AND also (and most importantly) by "most awesomeness summed up!"
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
April 29 2008 02:06 GMT
#72
On April 28 2008 18:10 Kyuki wrote:
Why is everyone voting group A?
It's not like it's four players that are favored of winning the tournament there.

Group E,G and H are all groups where atleast three players could deffo go very far. Group A seems more "clear" to me.

Anyway, going to be some really nice games - can't wait :D
Because it is easy to mathematically prove that group A is the strongest group. You simply sum up the skill level of all players. Let's compare to, for example, group E:
Xiaozi = 8
White-Ra = 8
Notforu = 7
Rondo = 7
Total = 30 skill points

But group A:
Mistrzzz = 9
Gosia = 8
Leg = 6
Mondi = 10000
Total = 10023 skill points

See, you can't argue against math. It has been scientifically proven.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
April 29 2008 03:25 GMT
#73
On April 29 2008 11:06 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2008 18:10 Kyuki wrote:
Why is everyone voting group A?
It's not like it's four players that are favored of winning the tournament there.

Group E,G and H are all groups where atleast three players could deffo go very far. Group A seems more "clear" to me.

Anyway, going to be some really nice games - can't wait :D
Because it is easy to mathematically prove that group A is the strongest group. You simply sum up the skill level of all players. Let's compare to, for example, group E:
Xiaozi = 8
White-Ra = 8
Notforu = 7
Rondo = 7
Total = 30 skill points

But group A:
Mistrzzz = 9
Gosia = 8
Leg = 6
Mondi = 10000
Total = 10023 skill points

See, you can't argue against math. It has been scientifically proven.

poor leg gets a 6....
more weight
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
April 29 2008 04:54 GMT
#74
I say Group A because Mondi and Mistrzzz are favorites but you really can't count Leg out because hes Leg even if its been a while theres a chance he could smack everyone around and wind up coming out #1 on the group and Gosia has a chance at it not a huge one but you can't count him out either.
Play
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia608 Posts
April 29 2008 06:46 GMT
#75
Group A is imba...Leg will go through too easily...all his group members already know they only have a 1/3 chance of progressing now
jmascis
kingrat
Profile Joined September 2003
Bulgaria60 Posts
April 29 2008 08:06 GMT
#76
Voted Group E, Group A Mondi and MIStrZZZ are pretty much favourites
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
April 29 2008 13:55 GMT
#77
A
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JudasT
Profile Joined January 2003
Spain2226 Posts
April 29 2008 14:32 GMT
#78
I think the hardest is H --> SquaLL, Kr, Dreiven, Advokate

SquaLL 8th and Kr 9th in the Ladder
Dreiven defeated Ex and
Advocate defeated Incontrol


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Tudazul
Profile Joined July 2004
Brazil400 Posts
April 29 2008 16:02 GMT
#79
Voted group H.
http://www.gamesphere.com.br/blog/tudazul.html
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
April 29 2008 16:49 GMT
#80
Every single one of these groups is a group of death.
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