EPTWho would make the best foreign captain for a new ProLeagu…
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
On March 17 2008 09:02 Titusmaster6 wrote: Uh...does this have to do with the countdown?? TELL us already!!!! I was just thinking that, just like how the TLPD was initiated, with the 10 polls regarding statistics and teams. | ||
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Umbrella
Taiwan936 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Testie even when he was a part of the community was arrogant and short sighted when it came to the community on a whole. Androide is the dumbest option I have ever seen. He doesnt know the name of half the "top foreigners" outside of russia. I wont even elaborate further, just no... Draco is retired and was NEVER a community player. In fact he opted to play strictly with koreans and shun the community.. why name him as a captain for something that is definately community based? Mondragon is the only viable choice of these. In fact he'd make the final cuts for a "real" list imo. Hes a great leader and has a general idea of the community. My only gripe is that he suffers from the Testie syndrome to a lesser degree. He thinks a lot lesser of a LOT ofplayers (sure they partly deserve it) but he also couples that with ignoring their results/progress which would make him an anti progressive leader. | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
EDIT: im not kidding btw | ||
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Gerpu
Croatia77 Posts
i hope so :D | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On March 17 2008 09:28 MeriaDoKk wrote: maybe you iNcontroL? EDIT: im not kidding btw He'd only take americans! bias! (just look at the replay list 7 of 9 in newest reps are american/canadian  .) | ||
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Hittegods
Stockholm4641 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27156 Posts
Don't get all pissy because you aren't in the running. Although the roster isn't set, so what do you know. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On March 17 2008 09:35 Shauni wrote: He'd only take americans! bias! (just look at the replay list 7 of 9 in newest reps are american/canadian .)Hey hey hey,,, those replays are "american" heavy (no pun intended heh) because they are the ones I game with. If I have a bias its super critical of american players. If I was given some kind of supreme power to chose from the entire non korean field I would put together the best damn roster/lineup etc EVER. The concession however is we WOULD have to be named team REAGAN. | ||
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G5
United States2919 Posts
honestly I think I could do better then all these guys though. korean or foreign scene. edit: i agree with pretty much everything inc said in his original post. | ||
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._.
1133 Posts
or Elky. Hell yes. Assem or Legionnaire too. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On March 17 2008 09:39 Manifesto7 wrote: What the hell do YOU know incontrol? I happen to know for a FACT, that there is a certain organization in Korea which is looking to form a new proteam. Could it be the same organization which recently sponsored a huge invitational tournament and have English casters? Could it be the same organization which I just recently interviewed, and they said they wanted more English content? Think about it, what would be the best way to attract the non-Korean market? Don't get all pissy because you aren't in the running. Although the roster isn't set, so what do you know. I get damn pissy when 30 something year old power hungry whores of the intrawebs get information by way of they happen to be attached to a popular gaming site and they think this somehow 1. informs them of how things are and 2. they are worth the dirt they walk on. I got news for you my ginger friend: You may run a website but you certainly have NO FUCKING IDEA what the non korean scene looks like. In fact I happen to see / know you trash it every chance you get. You have ALWAYS said "this is a site geared towards professional gaming" NOT the lowely non korean community. So take your prefabricated pride and save it for an occassion when you are actually in the know! | ||
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EGMachine
United States1643 Posts
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._.
1133 Posts
On March 17 2008 09:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I get damn pissy when 30 something year old power hungry whores of the intrawebs get information by way of they happen to be attached to a popular gaming site and they think this somehow 1. informs them of how things are and 2. they are worth the dirt they walk on. I got news for you my ginger friend: You may run a website but you certainly have NO FUCKING IDEA what the non korean scene looks like. In fact I happen to see / know you trash it every chance you get. You have ALWAYS said "this is a site geared towards professional gaming" NOT the lowely non korean community. So take your prefabricated pride and save it for an occassion when you are actually in the know! JLIG | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Troispoint
Canada2 Posts
On March 17 2008 09:42 ._. wrote: Grrrrr or Elky. Hell yes. Assem or Legionnaire too. Grrrrr retired long ago.(But I love that guy, Quebec FTW!) But Mondragon seems like the obvious choice to me. | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27156 Posts
On March 17 2008 09:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I get damn pissy when 30 something year old power hungry whores of the intrawebs get information by way of they happen to be attached to a popular gaming site and they think this somehow 1. informs them of how things are and 2. they are worth the dirt they walk on. I got news for you my ginger friend: You may run a website but you certainly have NO FUCKING IDEA what the non korean scene looks like. In fact I happen to see / know you trash it every chance you get. You have ALWAYS said "this is a site geared towards professional gaming" NOT the lowely non korean community. So take your prefabricated pride and save it for an occassion when you are actually in the know! Well forgive me for trying to raise some of the talents in the gutter that is the foreign community into the limelight. No offense, but in the past 5 years, what is the only event that has been in professional scope? Only TLT, nothing else comes close. It's about time the foreigners have more of a presence than once a year at WCG. I dont give a shit about the foreign scene, you are right. I only care about the pros. If I can mold that into my vision, then I will. | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27156 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
first they mention proleague songs then this is a huge freaking deal on top of that they use korean things and now this. Maybe... there's going to be a foreigner proleague team? GOM Magicns? ^_^ | ||
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Blind
United States2529 Posts
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
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DJWilsonX
United States19 Posts
On March 17 2008 09:42 ._. wrote: Grrrrr or Elky. Hell yes. Assem or Legionnaire too. Legionnaire or Grrrr... (personality wise) Elky's still on Cloud Nine counting the winnings from all the poker championships he's won. | ||
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fonger
United Kingdom1218 Posts
He's had experience leading the best of the best since 1869. | ||
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Pretoriian
United States3 Posts
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On March 17 2008 10:13 Brett wrote: Fake controversy between Mani + Inc IMO. Trying to drum up excitement for 31/03/08 ;D yeah no kidding eh? | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On March 17 2008 09:54 Manifesto7 wrote: And 30 something? Fuck you, Mr. "debate champ". Im still rockin my 20's on a wave of success. I'll have had more degrees than you've had dates in the past 5 years. Being as how I am not a slut and YOU are a NERD that isn't much of a surprise! You want to HELP the foreign community by bringing into the limelight a former hacker, a recluse, a russian loud mouth or an actual candidate in mondragon? Wow. Thanks but no thanks. I prefer service as oppose to disservice. Maybe if you didnt get so stuck in your power vacuum you'd recognize that asking the people who actually know a thing or two may be a better policy than just spinning the preverbial bottle in your lil elitist MiR forum where horrible ideas are entrenched! | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25990 Posts
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NonY
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But it'd be good if some Korean could tell us what role the captains play. I think I have an idea of what it is, but I'm definitely not certain about it. It seems silly to have a poll about a concept that is vague to the foreign community without having a clarifying explanation of that concept. | ||
RaGe
Belgium9949 Posts
On March 17 2008 10:29 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Being as how I am not a slut and YOU are a NERD that isn't much of a surprise! You want to HELP the foreign community by bringing into the limelight a former hacker, a recluse, a russian loud mouth or an actual candidate in mondragon? Wow. Thanks but no thanks. I prefer service as oppose to disservice. Maybe if you didnt get so stuck in your power vacuum you'd recognize that asking the people who actually know a thing or two may be a better policy than just spinning the preverbial bottle in your lil elitist MiR forum where horrible ideas are entrenched! it's not cause they keep you out of MiR that they're elitist. Just..normal standards. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On March 17 2008 10:13 Brett wrote: Fake controversy between Mani + Inc IMO. Trying to drum up excitement for 31/03/08 ;D jesus.. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On March 17 2008 11:03 RaGe wrote: it's not cause they keep you out of MiR that they're elitist. Just..normal standards. I didnt say that they keep ME out I spoke in regard to them having it period. Nice try though A for effort. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5522 Posts
I'm not sure why you got offended mani. Incontrol posted his opinion and he definitely knows more about the topic than you, having been part of the foreign scene since the beginning and having been on a team with 2 of the players on the list. | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
Yes, my son? | ||
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xmShake
United States1100 Posts
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Pads
England3228 Posts
this is like on par of awesomeness as tasteless going to korea. And I totally agree with Dissy being top candidate, leading ToT to the top and being the, arguably, best zerg outside of korea. | ||
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MuShu
United States3223 Posts
instead of hitting players with baseball bats to motivate them, he can attack them with water bottles instead | ||
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
voted testie | ||
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MaZza[KIS]
Australia2110 Posts
BUT YES! THIS IDEA OF A FOREIGN TEAM??? I bet ACE is cheering... "yeeeey we don't have to come last every time! yaaaaaaaaaay!" I voted Mondragon as captain. P.S. To all the people bagging "Arrogance". The Australia team had more arrogant players than you can shake a stick at. But it's because of this arrogance that Australia became top 5 in the world... all of it's players cared and played passionatelly for their country and their spot in the team... now nobody gives a shit.. but hey.. at least we have better manner???? | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
Mondragon is a good choice obviously, hes also proven as a long time leader of ToT. Personally Id nominate ret or MidiaN as they know what they're talking about gauging other players skills. However I dont know how active they are in the community now. Also Im not sure how they would do as "leaders", or "captain", as that requires more responsibility than necessarily picking the best players. | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5522 Posts
lol @ ace being happy ;p | ||
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Dahlia...
United States409 Posts
XiaoZi | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
draco in his prime had probably the best macro of any foreigner it would be nice to see again | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5522 Posts
On March 17 2008 14:08 fusionsdf wrote: If draco isnt on the team my heart will be broken draco in his prime had probably the best macro of any foreigner it would be nice to see again Testie had pretty lethal macro. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
yeah but even in the games vs inter.mind, draco was up by like 20 supply both games.... and its like that pretty much every game he plays. I really think its overlooked | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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ReiKo
Croatia1023 Posts
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pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
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YesStorY
Czech Republic3 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13295 Posts
Carry On. Oh and I guess Mondragon since he has a lot of experience running ToT. | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
Androide..... What a joke. Have a Russian lead a foreign team. Nobody will give him any respect as he is already being ridiculed. Draco.. Never seen him as a leader. I don't know him well, but is his English good enough? Mondragon on the other hand has lead the best non-Korean team for the last 6 years and done a great job, with reasonably little scandal. ToT still exists it survived all this shit, while at the same time hundreds of teams have died. And all this without any 'sponsor' money. | ||
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wifebeater
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Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
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MarklarMarklar
Fiji1823 Posts
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
On March 17 2008 21:31 Sewi wrote: mondragon is maybe the best of them but I´d say draco cause of his experience in Korea That makes him a tourguide not a good leader -_- | ||
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
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HaiVan
Bulgaria1698 Posts
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eugen1225
Yugoslavia134 Posts
I would love to see him in Korea owning. | ||
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fishyjoes
Germany644 Posts
On March 17 2008 23:26 eugen1225 wrote: I would love to see him in Korea owning. HaiVan is right, i dont think theres much of a chance for a foreign team in korean proleagues | ||
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Breavman
Sweden598 Posts
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
I 'd say Mondi or Testie | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
But then again I guess no leader can be 100% unbiased, and I can't think of a better choice than Mondragon in the foreign community. | ||
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Avius
Iraq1796 Posts
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Radivel
Canada16 Posts
Has anyone considered that the time that this thing ends is April 1st, aka April Fools Day? ;D | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
On March 18 2008 00:37 Radivel wrote: Testie always, 10 yrs strong, almost conquered the world. Has anyone considered that the time that this thing ends is April 1st, aka April Fools Day? ;D Probably the first thing anyone stated, yes :p | ||
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recklessspite
United States15 Posts
Everything a good thread needs, with the exception of tits. | ||
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sasal
Germany74 Posts
On March 17 2008 23:44 willKeks wrote: HaiVan is right, i dont think theres much of a chance for a foreign team in korean proleagues I am not very familiar with the international SC scene. But i think this is the most obvious suggestion and makes this attempt useless. It is hardly to imagine that people who play in their spare time besides school or college can win against players who live in houses with other progamers and concentrate only on the game cause it is also a life perspective for them. The popularity in Korea kept this game alive over the years. But for the old international players other things become inevitable more important as older they get during young people join newer games. So i cant see any sense in this. Only that the Korean can praise their top players when they slaughter the foreign players and attract even more fans which again raises the market value for the organizers and sponsors. But from the point of view of the foreign players this is useless. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
On March 18 2008 07:16 recklessspite wrote: Ooo…mystery, controversy, INTERNET FITE PEW PEW PEW. Everything a good thread needs, with the exception of tits. NSFW close thread now? | ||
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