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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
March 16 2008 23:56 GMT
#1
Mondragon obviously, although I doubt he'd want to.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
March 17 2008 00:02 GMT
#2
Uh...does this have to do with the countdown?? TELL us already!!!!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
March 17 2008 00:14 GMT
#3
come on TL........ come oooon TL, tell us what is this all about :D
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
March 17 2008 00:15 GMT
#4
On March 17 2008 09:02 Titusmaster6 wrote:
Uh...does this have to do with the countdown?? TELL us already!!!!

I was just thinking that, just like how the TLPD was initiated, with the 10 polls regarding statistics and teams.

<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
March 17 2008 00:17 GMT
#5
Why is there an All of the above choice? <<;
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 17 2008 00:23 GMT
#6
NONE

Testie even when he was a part of the community was arrogant and short sighted when it came to the community on a whole.

Androide is the dumbest option I have ever seen. He doesnt know the name of half the "top foreigners" outside of russia. I wont even elaborate further, just no...

Draco is retired and was NEVER a community player. In fact he opted to play strictly with koreans and shun the community.. why name him as a captain for something that is definately community based?

Mondragon is the only viable choice of these. In fact he'd make the final cuts for a "real" list imo. Hes a great leader and has a general idea of the community. My only gripe is that he suffers from the Testie syndrome to a lesser degree. He thinks a lot lesser of a LOT ofplayers (sure they partly deserve it) but he also couples that with ignoring their results/progress which would make him an anti progressive leader.
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-17 00:30:35
March 17 2008 00:28 GMT
#7
maybe you iNcontroL?

EDIT: im not kidding btw
Gerpu
Profile Joined August 2006
Croatia77 Posts
March 17 2008 00:32 GMT
#8
countdown is for a new proteam, made of foreigners! yes yes yes! :D

i hope so :D
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
March 17 2008 00:35 GMT
#9
On March 17 2008 09:28 MeriaDoKk wrote:
maybe you iNcontroL?

EDIT: im not kidding btw


He'd only take americans! bias! (just look at the replay list 7 of 9 in newest reps are american/canadian .)
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
March 17 2008 00:36 GMT
#10
Germans know how to organize things
This neo violence, pure self defiance
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
March 17 2008 00:39 GMT
#11
What the hell do YOU know incontrol? I happen to know for a FACT, that there is a certain organization in Korea which is looking to form a new proteam. Could it be the same organization which recently sponsored a huge invitational tournament and have English casters? Could it be the same organization which I just recently interviewed, and they said they wanted more English content? Think about it, what would be the best way to attract the non-Korean market?

Don't get all pissy because you aren't in the running. Although the roster isn't set, so what do you know.
ModeratorGodfather
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 17 2008 00:40 GMT
#12
On March 17 2008 09:35 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2008 09:28 MeriaDoKk wrote:
maybe you iNcontroL?

EDIT: im not kidding btw


He'd only take americans! bias! (just look at the replay list 7 of 9 in newest reps are american/canadian .)


Hey hey hey,,, those replays are "american" heavy (no pun intended heh) because they are the ones I game with. If I have a bias its super critical of american players.

If I was given some kind of supreme power to chose from the entire non korean field I would put together the best damn roster/lineup etc EVER. The concession however is we WOULD have to be named team REAGAN.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-17 00:47:29
March 17 2008 00:40 GMT
#13
mondragon is the only one i can see doing an ok job at it.

honestly I think I could do better then all these guys though. korean or foreign scene.

edit: i agree with pretty much everything inc said in his original post.
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-17 00:43:18
March 17 2008 00:42 GMT
#14
Grrrrr
or
Elky.

Hell yes.

Assem or Legionnaire too.
:D
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 17 2008 00:42 GMT
#15
On March 17 2008 09:39 Manifesto7 wrote:
What the hell do YOU know incontrol? I happen to know for a FACT, that there is a certain organization in Korea which is looking to form a new proteam. Could it be the same organization which recently sponsored a huge invitational tournament and have English casters? Could it be the same organization which I just recently interviewed, and they said they wanted more English content? Think about it, what would be the best way to attract the non-Korean market?

Don't get all pissy because you aren't in the running. Although the roster isn't set, so what do you know.


I get damn pissy when 30 something year old power hungry whores of the intrawebs get information by way of they happen to be attached to a popular gaming site and they think this somehow 1. informs them of how things are and 2. they are worth the dirt they walk on. I got news for you my ginger friend: You may run a website but you certainly have NO FUCKING IDEA what the non korean scene looks like. In fact I happen to see / know you trash it every chance you get. You have ALWAYS said "this is a site geared towards professional gaming" NOT the lowely non korean community. So take your prefabricated pride and save it for an occassion when you are actually in the know!
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
March 17 2008 00:43 GMT
#16
NONE
I'm like, the coolest
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
March 17 2008 00:43 GMT
#17
On March 17 2008 09:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2008 09:39 Manifesto7 wrote:
What the hell do YOU know incontrol? I happen to know for a FACT, that there is a certain organization in Korea which is looking to form a new proteam. Could it be the same organization which recently sponsored a huge invitational tournament and have English casters? Could it be the same organization which I just recently interviewed, and they said they wanted more English content? Think about it, what would be the best way to attract the non-Korean market?

Don't get all pissy because you aren't in the running. Although the roster isn't set, so what do you know.


I get damn pissy when 30 something year old power hungry whores of the intrawebs get information by way of they happen to be attached to a popular gaming site and they think this somehow 1. informs them of how things are and 2. they are worth the dirt they walk on. I got news for you my ginger friend: You may run a website but you certainly have NO FUCKING IDEA what the non korean scene looks like. In fact I happen to see / know you trash it every chance you get. You have ALWAYS said "this is a site geared towards professional gaming" NOT the lowely non korean community. So take your prefabricated pride and save it for an occassion when you are actually in the know!

JLIG
:D
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 17 2008 00:46 GMT
#18
SIRL ^_^
Troispoint
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada2 Posts
March 17 2008 00:46 GMT
#19
On March 17 2008 09:42 ._. wrote:
Grrrrr
or
Elky.

Hell yes.

Assem or Legionnaire too.


Grrrrr retired long ago.(But I love that guy, Quebec FTW!)

But Mondragon seems like the obvious choice to me.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
March 17 2008 00:52 GMT
#20
On March 17 2008 09:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2008 09:39 Manifesto7 wrote:
What the hell do YOU know incontrol? I happen to know for a FACT, that there is a certain organization in Korea which is looking to form a new proteam. Could it be the same organization which recently sponsored a huge invitational tournament and have English casters? Could it be the same organization which I just recently interviewed, and they said they wanted more English content? Think about it, what would be the best way to attract the non-Korean market?

Don't get all pissy because you aren't in the running. Although the roster isn't set, so what do you know.


I get damn pissy when 30 something year old power hungry whores of the intrawebs get information by way of they happen to be attached to a popular gaming site and they think this somehow 1. informs them of how things are and 2. they are worth the dirt they walk on. I got news for you my ginger friend: You may run a website but you certainly have NO FUCKING IDEA what the non korean scene looks like. In fact I happen to see / know you trash it every chance you get. You have ALWAYS said "this is a site geared towards professional gaming" NOT the lowely non korean community. So take your prefabricated pride and save it for an occassion when you are actually in the know!


Well forgive me for trying to raise some of the talents in the gutter that is the foreign community into the limelight. No offense, but in the past 5 years, what is the only event that has been in professional scope? Only TLT, nothing else comes close. It's about time the foreigners have more of a presence than once a year at WCG.

I dont give a shit about the foreign scene, you are right. I only care about the pros. If I can mold that into my vision, then I will.
ModeratorGodfather
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
March 17 2008 00:54 GMT
#21
And 30 something? Fuck you, Mr. "debate champ". Im still rockin my 20's on a wave of success. I'll have had more degrees than you've had dates in the past 5 years.
ModeratorGodfather
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
March 17 2008 00:54 GMT
#22
WAIT A MINUTE

first they mention proleague songs

then this is a huge freaking deal

on top of that they use korean things

and now this.

Maybe... there's going to be a foreigner proleague team? GOM Magicns?

^_^
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Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
March 17 2008 01:06 GMT
#23
Mondragon because he already has tons of experience from being the leader of ToT.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3821 Posts
March 17 2008 01:13 GMT
#24
Fake controversy between Mani + Inc IMO. Trying to drum up excitement for 31/03/08 ;D
DJWilsonX
Profile Joined June 2007
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-17 01:19:48
March 17 2008 01:18 GMT
#25
On March 17 2008 09:42 ._. wrote:
Grrrrr
or
Elky.

Hell yes.

Assem or Legionnaire too.


Legionnaire or Grrrr... (personality wise)

Elky's still on Cloud Nine counting the winnings from all the poker championships he's won.
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
March 17 2008 01:23 GMT
#26
sMi.FakeSteve

He's had experience leading the best of the best since 1869.
Pretoriian
Profile Joined February 2008
United States3 Posts
March 17 2008 01:26 GMT
#27
ElkY is playing Poker now and winning a lot of money
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
March 17 2008 01:26 GMT
#28
Rofl. I love how Mani and Inc goes up against each other in a fake argument ;O
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 17 2008 01:27 GMT
#29
On March 17 2008 10:13 Brett wrote:
Fake controversy between Mani + Inc IMO. Trying to drum up excitement for 31/03/08 ;D


yeah no kidding eh?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 17 2008 01:29 GMT
#30
On March 17 2008 09:54 Manifesto7 wrote:
And 30 something? Fuck you, Mr. "debate champ". Im still rockin my 20's on a wave of success. I'll have had more degrees than you've had dates in the past 5 years.


Being as how I am not a slut and YOU are a NERD that isn't much of a surprise!

You want to HELP the foreign community by bringing into the limelight a former hacker, a recluse, a russian loud mouth or an actual candidate in mondragon? Wow. Thanks but no thanks. I prefer service as oppose to disservice. Maybe if you didnt get so stuck in your power vacuum you'd recognize that asking the people who actually know a thing or two may be a better policy than just spinning the preverbial bottle in your lil elitist MiR forum where horrible ideas are entrenched!
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
March 17 2008 01:55 GMT
#31
Lol are they being unserious? It's intense! Manifesto went for fast expo and inc responded with 9 pool. Manifesto responded with some clever goon and probe micro, but inc just hit him with a horrendous lurker push just before observers! What happens next :o.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25986 Posts
March 17 2008 01:56 GMT
#32
I like the foreign scene much more than the professional, just because it seems more accessible to me. I've got to agree with what Incontrol said, all of these choices are dumb except Mondragon, I can't think of anyone who would do it better than him.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-17 02:00:11
March 17 2008 01:56 GMT
#33
DEFINITELY TESTIE. No contest.

But it'd be good if some Korean could tell us what role the captains play. I think I have an idea of what it is, but I'm definitely not certain about it. It seems silly to have a poll about a concept that is vague to the foreign community without having a clarifying explanation of that concept.
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9948 Posts
March 17 2008 02:03 GMT
#34
On March 17 2008 10:29 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2008 09:54 Manifesto7 wrote:
And 30 something? Fuck you, Mr. "debate champ". Im still rockin my 20's on a wave of success. I'll have had more degrees than you've had dates in the past 5 years.


Being as how I am not a slut and YOU are a NERD that isn't much of a surprise!

You want to HELP the foreign community by bringing into the limelight a former hacker, a recluse, a russian loud mouth or an actual candidate in mondragon? Wow. Thanks but no thanks. I prefer service as oppose to disservice. Maybe if you didnt get so stuck in your power vacuum you'd recognize that asking the people who actually know a thing or two may be a better policy than just spinning the preverbial bottle in your lil elitist MiR forum where horrible ideas are entrenched!

it's not cause they keep you out of MiR that they're elitist. Just..normal standards.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 17 2008 02:11 GMT
#35
On March 17 2008 10:13 Brett wrote:
Fake controversy between Mani + Inc IMO. Trying to drum up excitement for 31/03/08 ;D


jesus..
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 17 2008 02:12 GMT
#36
On March 17 2008 11:03 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2008 10:29 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On March 17 2008 09:54 Manifesto7 wrote:
And 30 something? Fuck you, Mr. "debate champ". Im still rockin my 20's on a wave of success. I'll have had more degrees than you've had dates in the past 5 years.


Being as how I am not a slut and YOU are a NERD that isn't much of a surprise!

You want to HELP the foreign community by bringing into the limelight a former hacker, a recluse, a russian loud mouth or an actual candidate in mondragon? Wow. Thanks but no thanks. I prefer service as oppose to disservice. Maybe if you didnt get so stuck in your power vacuum you'd recognize that asking the people who actually know a thing or two may be a better policy than just spinning the preverbial bottle in your lil elitist MiR forum where horrible ideas are entrenched!

it's not cause they keep you out of MiR that they're elitist. Just..normal standards.


I didnt say that they keep ME out I spoke in regard to them having it period. Nice try though A for effort.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
March 17 2008 02:14 GMT
#37
Mondragon
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
March 17 2008 02:17 GMT
#38
Mondragon easily.

I'm not sure why you got offended mani. Incontrol posted his opinion and he definitely knows more about the topic than you, having been part of the foreign scene since the beginning and having been on a team with 2 of the players on the list.
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Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3821 Posts
March 17 2008 02:17 GMT
#39
On March 17 2008 11:11 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2008 10:13 Brett wrote:
Fake controversy between Mani + Inc IMO. Trying to drum up excitement for 31/03/08 ;D


jesus..

Yes, my son?
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
March 17 2008 02:28 GMT
#40
Where is the none of the above option?
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
March 17 2008 02:30 GMT
#41
Wow, so there's going to be a pro team made up of non kor's?

this is like on par of awesomeness as tasteless going to korea.

And I totally agree with Dissy being top candidate, leading ToT to the top and being the, arguably, best zerg outside of korea.
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MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-17 02:37:51
March 17 2008 02:37 GMT
#42
Androide

instead of hitting players with baseball bats to motivate them, he can attack them with water bottles instead
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
March 17 2008 02:45 GMT
#43
actually i agree with nony. testie has the best gamesense out of any foreigner i think, and has mastery of all three races. those types of things help a leader of a team a lot.

voted testie
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MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
March 17 2008 03:05 GMT
#44
I agree with the comment above, but same could be said about Mondi. I've seen Mondi play some games with PATHETIC apm but pull it off all because of very well timed attacks and forward thinking. When I watch Mondi's games I always get a feeling that he's thinking a lot. This is the same feeling that I get from Legionnaire's games. These guys may not have the same mechanics as the Korean pros, but they're very capable strategically. We saw what improving mechanics did for Legionnaire. Perhaps Mondi can do the same? (in fact Legionnaire had EXACTLY the same, if not lower, apm before he went to Korea as Mondi does now)

BUT YES! THIS IDEA OF A FOREIGN TEAM??? I bet ACE is cheering... "yeeeey we don't have to come last every time! yaaaaaaaaaay!" I voted Mondragon as captain.

P.S. To all the people bagging "Arrogance". The Australia team had more arrogant players than you can shake a stick at. But it's because of this arrogance that Australia became top 5 in the world... all of it's players cared and played passionatelly for their country and their spot in the team... now nobody gives a shit.. but hey.. at least we have better manner????
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
March 17 2008 03:48 GMT
#45
THE SUPER LOLOLOL

Mondragon is a good choice obviously, hes also proven as a long time leader of ToT.
Personally Id nominate ret or MidiaN as they know what they're talking about gauging other players skills. However I dont know how active they are in the community now. Also Im not sure how they would do as "leaders", or "captain", as that requires more responsibility than necessarily picking the best players.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
March 17 2008 03:49 GMT
#46
Oh here's a pic that seems like its from left field... Artosis
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
March 17 2008 04:04 GMT
#47
I actually think artosis would do well.

lol @ ace being happy ;p
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Dahlia...
Profile Joined September 2005
United States409 Posts
March 17 2008 04:06 GMT
#48
no

XiaoZi
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
March 17 2008 04:22 GMT
#49
Mondi ez
w/e
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
March 17 2008 04:26 GMT
#50
Mondragon for the win.

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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-17 05:09:24
March 17 2008 05:08 GMT
#51
If draco isnt on the team my heart will be broken

draco in his prime had probably the best macro of any foreigner

it would be nice to see again
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
March 17 2008 05:29 GMT
#52
On March 17 2008 14:08 fusionsdf wrote:
If draco isnt on the team my heart will be broken

draco in his prime had probably the best macro of any foreigner

it would be nice to see again

Testie had pretty lethal macro.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 17 2008 05:33 GMT
#53
On March 17 2008 14:29 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2008 14:08 fusionsdf wrote:
If draco isnt on the team my heart will be broken

draco in his prime had probably the best macro of any foreigner

it would be nice to see again

Testie had pretty lethal macro.



yeah

but even in the games vs inter.mind, draco was up by like 20 supply both games....
and its like that pretty much every game he plays. I really think its overlooked
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
March 17 2008 07:46 GMT
#54
I vote Mondragon because his games entertain me the most. But an all foreign team seems silly to me? Now I don't know much about the foreign scene, but it seems like they'd do pretty badly, at least for a good while. I think it would be neater to have more of these "eSTRO challenge" type things, and get more foreigners on pro-teams.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 17 2008 08:00 GMT
#55
I voted based on ignorance. alt q q
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
March 17 2008 08:07 GMT
#56
Whats really the title of the captain? Picking the rest of the team? Making sure his team trains? Telling his teammates there weakness? I guess out of those choices Mondi... but really who knows
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ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
March 17 2008 09:07 GMT
#57
Mondy.
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
March 17 2008 10:33 GMT
#58
obviously this is a trivia question and you're supposed to pick the oldest one
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YesStorY
Profile Joined March 2008
Czech Republic3 Posts
March 17 2008 11:33 GMT
#59
I think its as broad as long who should be captain actualy... main is the entire list of players, if there will be some non-korean proleague team =)
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13288 Posts
March 17 2008 11:45 GMT
#60
I have jury duty on the 31st. T_T

Carry On.

Oh and I guess Mondragon since he has a lot of experience running ToT.
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{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
March 17 2008 11:48 GMT
#61
Wow, Incontrol called someone else a nerd......... Beside that being a nerd is positive in my eyes. In many ways at least.

Androide..... What a joke. Have a Russian lead a foreign team. Nobody will give him any respect as he is already being ridiculed.
Draco.. Never seen him as a leader. I don't know him well, but is his English good enough?
Mondragon on the other hand has lead the best non-Korean team for the last 6 years and done a great job, with reasonably little scandal. ToT still exists it survived all this shit, while at the same time hundreds of teams have died. And all this without any 'sponsor' money.
wifebeater
Profile Joined January 2008
178 Posts
March 17 2008 12:26 GMT
#62
Hmfm.. What's all the fuzz about?
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Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-17 12:34:41
March 17 2008 12:31 GMT
#63
mondragon is maybe the best of them but I´d say draco cause of his experience in Korea
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MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
March 17 2008 12:44 GMT
#64
mondragon cause he seems like a really really realluy awesome dude
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Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
March 17 2008 12:46 GMT
#65
On March 17 2008 21:31 Sewi wrote:
mondragon is maybe the best of them but I´d say draco cause of his experience in Korea


That makes him a tourguide not a good leader -_-
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-17 14:06:03
March 17 2008 14:05 GMT
#66
mondi!!!
Gör om, gör rätt
HaiVan
Profile Joined April 2005
Bulgaria1698 Posts
March 17 2008 14:08 GMT
#67
I thought all of these people had quit StarCraft. And the idea of a all-foreign team is nice and all, but when they start losing 0-3 every round in proleague, and none of the players qualifies in indivudual leagues, its going to be a bit sad.
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eugen1225
Profile Joined February 2008
Yugoslavia134 Posts
March 17 2008 14:26 GMT
#68
I'm a Mondragon fan, so i say Mondragon, he plays great, is entertaining, what more do you need.
I would love to see him in Korea owning.
fishyjoes
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany644 Posts
March 17 2008 14:44 GMT
#69
On March 17 2008 23:26 eugen1225 wrote:
I would love to see him in Korea owning.

HaiVan is right, i dont think theres much of a chance for a foreign team in korean proleagues
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Breavman
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden598 Posts
March 17 2008 14:54 GMT
#70
Mondragon does a great job leading ToT and he's my favourite foreign player, but shouldn't a team captain be a bit more involved and friendly towards the public? Because ToT seems to be more like a sect than most clans to an outsider.

Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
March 17 2008 15:05 GMT
#71
Mistrzzz ?? haha
I 'd say Mondi or Testie
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
March 17 2008 15:07 GMT
#72
Mondragon is a good leader and would do a good job, my only concern with him is that he uses favoritism ( of ToT members/friends ) a lot, just look at the german tv league right now where they asked him for which players to pick.

But then again I guess no leader can be 100% unbiased, and I can't think of a better choice than Mondragon in the foreign community.
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Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
March 17 2008 15:08 GMT
#73
Mondragon is not even interested in playing professionally in Korea, at least that's what he says in every single interview. I voted him nevertheless.
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Radivel
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada16 Posts
March 17 2008 15:37 GMT
#74
Testie always, 10 yrs strong, almost conquered the world.

Has anyone considered that the time that this thing ends is April 1st, aka April Fools Day? ;D
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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
March 17 2008 15:52 GMT
#75
On March 18 2008 00:37 Radivel wrote:
Testie always, 10 yrs strong, almost conquered the world.

Has anyone considered that the time that this thing ends is April 1st, aka April Fools Day? ;D

Probably the first thing anyone stated, yes :p
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recklessspite
Profile Joined January 2008
United States15 Posts
March 17 2008 22:16 GMT
#76
Ooo…mystery, controversy, INTERNET FITE PEW PEW PEW.

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sasal
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany74 Posts
March 17 2008 23:11 GMT
#77
On March 17 2008 23:44 willKeks wrote:
HaiVan is right, i dont think theres much of a chance for a foreign team in korean proleagues


I am not very familiar with the international SC scene. But i think this is the most obvious suggestion and makes this attempt useless.

It is hardly to imagine that people who play in their spare time besides school or college can win against players who live in houses with other progamers and concentrate only on the game cause it is also a life perspective for them.

The popularity in Korea kept this game alive over the years. But for the old international players other things become inevitable more important as older they get during young people join newer games.

So i cant see any sense in this. Only that the Korean can praise their top players when they slaughter the foreign players and attract even more fans which again raises the market value for the organizers and sponsors. But from the point of view of the foreign players this is useless.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
March 18 2008 20:26 GMT
#78
On March 18 2008 07:16 recklessspite wrote:
Ooo…mystery, controversy, INTERNET FITE PEW PEW PEW.

Everything a good thread needs, with the exception of tits.

NSFW

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