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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
July 12 2007 15:24 GMT
#1
And its just a poll for fun, so dont give me any grief about maps and shit.
ModeratorGodfather
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 12 2007 15:26 GMT
#2
I said ChoJJa, i'm a bad bad man
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 12 2007 15:27 GMT
#3
Cowboy :3
posting on liquid sites in current year
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51632 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-12 15:29:00
July 12 2007 15:28 GMT
#4
The freshmaker.
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CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
July 12 2007 15:32 GMT
#5
chojja
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
July 12 2007 15:34 GMT
#6
chojja, because i wanna see him smile after a good win and shake his opponent's hand like a gentleman. it's been pretty long since i've seen him do that..
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
July 12 2007 15:36 GMT
#7
I have absolutely no idea, but I guessed Chojja because Mani knows this site is full of people who'd step over their own grandmother to play lollipop with Reach's wiener.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 12 2007 15:38 GMT
#8
Reach has pretty bad stats vs z
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-12 15:39:45
July 12 2007 15:39 GMT
#9
it could be a crazy psychological trap. Instincts say Reach, Kespa rankings say Chojja... but you can't really base statistics (winning %s) off of kespa now can you? According to past power rankings though, reach was like ultra bad pvz, correct

edit: secksi beat me to tha punch
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4664 Posts
July 12 2007 15:40 GMT
#10
Reach>Chojja in that MSL semis, so Reach>Chojja forever!
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
July 12 2007 15:47 GMT
#11
chojja was always known as a zvp monster, while reach was the best pvz when in form. however, chojja was far more consistent than reach ever was in pvz.

the only instances i can think of reach ever playing chojja was the uzoo losers final, where reach triumphed over chojja 3-2, with the epic game ending maelstrom on rush hour

both players have a gold and silver medal in starleague play, both have qualified for a lot.

i guess its probably chojja, though it could really go either way
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
July 12 2007 15:48 GMT
#12
On July 13 2007 00:36 BroOd wrote:
I have absolutely no idea, but I guessed Chojja because Mani knows this site is full of people who'd step over their own grandmother to play lollipop with Reach's wiener.


ahahahaha thats hilarious.
ModeratorGodfather
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
July 12 2007 15:53 GMT
#13
Based on playing each other? Or the respective matchups?

Reach better play Protoss- my life is at stake!
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Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3502 Posts
July 12 2007 16:31 GMT
#14
I chose Reach because of the number of devourers he killed in that game on Rush Hour.
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
July 12 2007 17:22 GMT
#15
REACH!
Hates Fun🤔
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 12 2007 17:42 GMT
#16
I think Chojja has a better zvp.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
July 12 2007 18:43 GMT
#17
Reach!
AdministratorSKT T1 | Masters of the Universe
morfyy
Profile Joined May 2007
Romania593 Posts
July 12 2007 19:41 GMT
#18
MAN TOSS POWER

I know that Chojja is good 2.And he has a good ZvP.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44170 Posts
July 12 2007 19:42 GMT
#19
I felt bad for voting Chojja because I worship Reach as much as the next man but come on guys, it's PvZ.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
GodsDevil[5thF]
Profile Joined February 2006
Romania622 Posts
July 12 2007 19:45 GMT
#20
if it was zvz or zvt say chojja, but zvp :|, voted for reach
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
July 12 2007 19:52 GMT
#21
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Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 12 2007 19:52 GMT
#22
On July 13 2007 00:36 BroOd wrote:
I have absolutely no idea, but I guessed Chojja because Mani knows this site is full of people who'd step over their own grandmother to play lollipop with Reach's wiener.


Damn straight. I would be gay for MANTOSS.

>_>
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Fox
Profile Joined September 2002
United States408 Posts
July 12 2007 20:45 GMT
#23
ez choice chojja
I am so fast I can see my own ear.
Mango
Profile Joined July 2006
Belgium522 Posts
July 12 2007 20:47 GMT
#24
Vs zerg Reach has a terrible record...
At least i can say MANTOSS played for my life!!
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
July 12 2007 21:07 GMT
#25
On July 13 2007 05:45 Fox wrote:
ez choice chojja
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
July 12 2007 21:12 GMT
#26
reach all the wayyyyyy!!!!!!!
PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
July 12 2007 21:13 GMT
#27
voted reach...

i don't care for my life that much
Evilmonkey.
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1628 Posts
July 12 2007 21:40 GMT
#28
Where's Tfeign? Bet he could recite Chojja's ZvP stats.
WWBD- What would Boxer do?
Asakura
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Germany471 Posts
July 12 2007 21:42 GMT
#29
MAN
Man is disturbed not by things, but by the views he takes of them. (Epictetus)
HumbleZealot
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada508 Posts
July 12 2007 21:52 GMT
#30
On July 13 2007 00:36 BroOd wrote:
I have absolutely no idea, but I guessed Chojja because Mani knows this site is full of people who'd step over their own grandmother to play lollipop with Reach's wiener.

And Mani is one of those people so he knows that mantoss is GOD.
OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
July 12 2007 22:26 GMT
#31
On July 13 2007 00:36 BroOd wrote:
I have absolutely no idea, but I guessed Chojja because Mani knows this site is full of people who'd step over their own grandmother to play lollipop with Reach's wiener.


Agreed. Chojja
abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
July 12 2007 22:41 GMT
#32
I voted REACH.
P_King
Profile Joined February 2006
Russian Federation363 Posts
July 12 2007 22:44 GMT
#33
REACH !!!
Rush Hour rematch GOGOGOGO ))))))))))))))
[Oops]Reach-gogogo :)
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-12 23:02:43
July 12 2007 23:02 GMT
#34
lots of people want to die, apparently
to clarify, i voted chojja
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Koldblooded
Profile Joined July 2006
United States661 Posts
July 12 2007 23:25 GMT
#35
lol its chojja
By.Flash fighting
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 13 2007 00:05 GMT
#36
chojja
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
July 13 2007 00:34 GMT
#37
Reach, cuz if I live because of some imbalisk ZvP trouncing whats the point?
Sad Boy
Profile Joined July 2007
Ukraine15 Posts
July 13 2007 01:18 GMT
#38
Reach has gosu PvZ i like it =) so Only Reach
May be you better off this way?
FalliNinLove
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Slovakia865 Posts
July 13 2007 01:56 GMT
#39
i think reach, cos he got rly nice PvZ
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
July 13 2007 02:03 GMT
#40
Chojja

That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
July 13 2007 02:07 GMT
#41
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jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
July 13 2007 02:30 GMT
#42
I would say statiscally, Reach has never played PvZ very well. He doesn't understand modern PvZ. ChOJJa I would think has a better than 50% against Protoss for sure.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
July 13 2007 03:18 GMT
#43
The fesssto is cruuuelll to ussss. Why does it hurt us soooo?
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
July 13 2007 03:32 GMT
#44
Chojja no shit
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
July 13 2007 04:18 GMT
#45
Chojja, because reach, and protoss in general, is gay.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
AltaiR_
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Korea (South)922 Posts
July 13 2007 04:35 GMT
#46
If they do play...all i have to say is....

Translator
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 13 2007 05:22 GMT
#47
Aside from occasional god mode moments, Reach is consistently T_T against zerg, so my life's in Chojja's hands.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 13 2007 06:28 GMT
#48
fagtoss
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
July 13 2007 06:48 GMT
#49
This poll is mean and hurts my feelings.

You aren't going to get me to admit the answer Mani, and I hate this poll with a passion. Are you trying to make me cry?

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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
July 13 2007 07:16 GMT
#50
Chojja had the highest career winning% in zvp of all the pro zerg players for quite some time.... and iirc, Reach's pvz win% is right around 50%.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 13 2007 07:41 GMT
#51
On July 13 2007 04:52 Jathin wrote:
Chojja is fucking terrible ZvP.
And you're fucking stupid
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-13 08:50:28
July 13 2007 08:47 GMT
#52
LOL...
Cowboy zerg?
Who was the most reknowned ORIGINAL Ultralisk abuser?
Well.. HOT was... but Chojja used to be so art ZvP.
The only GsP who knew the balance between sunkens and units lol.
Why you think Jju used to say ZvP was easy?
Chojja was his sunbae and mentor on Soul.

The Great Cowboy Zerg.

In all honesty, I used to love Chojja... til Tfeign came along.
I still like Chojja, but it's too late now, especially in his current shape.

But I believe, because... he's Jja. People used to see his replays and be like, WOW. T.T He's from an era of REPLAYS YOooo
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20166 Posts
July 13 2007 10:22 GMT
#53
Voted reach.

Chojja's zvp is seriously underrated though.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
July 13 2007 11:04 GMT
#54
On July 13 2007 00:24 Manifesto7 wrote:
And its just a poll for fun, so dont give me any grief about maps and shit.


But this is for my life
^-^
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
July 13 2007 11:44 GMT
#55
AND YOUR LIFE IS FUNNY HAHAHA
ModeratorGodfather
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
July 13 2007 12:19 GMT
#56
Chojja. Reach can no longer play pvz.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
July 13 2007 16:17 GMT
#57
IT'S A TRAP!
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7034 Posts
July 13 2007 20:22 GMT
#58
Chojja
Unless you're talking about something else than SC -_-
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
July 14 2007 00:09 GMT
#59
What about ChOJJa vs Reach all time head to head rec?

Oo

I know ChOJJa's ZvP % is MUCH better than Reach's PvZ %..

but in their head to head, I'm not sure how far he's ahead, if he's ahead at all.

I only remember that bo5 that Reach took 3-2 TT
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DD-FRIeZa
Profile Joined November 2006
Croatia91 Posts
July 14 2007 00:40 GMT
#60
reach =D
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-14 01:38:32
July 14 2007 01:34 GMT
#61
On July 14 2007 09:09 Last Romantic wrote:
What about ChOJJa vs Reach all time head to head rec?

Oo

I know ChOJJa's ZvP % is MUCH better than Reach's PvZ %..

but in their head to head, I'm not sure how far he's ahead, if he's ahead at all.

I only remember that bo5 that Reach took 3-2 TT

Well, the only other game I can remember between the two was a PvZ on LT from, I think, KT-KTF.
I think the zerg was chojja at least, I have a similiar memory but with jinnam as the zerg instead =[ was probably another game since he was also in the league IIRC.

If I remember correctly chojja won.

EDIT: hahaha, I just counted their matches on PGR21 =[
It's ugly.

5-15 to chojja, I had NO idea they met so many times, in recent history they are something really even like 3-3 or 4-4 but in the past reach got dominated ;p
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Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
July 14 2007 02:40 GMT
#62
though i am a P user and fun ... if i had to put my life on something, i'll always trust in the imba mu so gogoggo CHOJJA!
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 14 2007 04:11 GMT
#63
hahahaha man some of you are huge retards (seems the majority are!)

Chojja is still well over 60% in ZvP, and reach isn't even at 50%
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HungerForMore
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan420 Posts
July 14 2007 06:04 GMT
#64
According to kespa's website, Chojja is 64.9% ZvP and Reach is 51,5%, so he is above 50%.

Anyways, I doubt Reach has won more games vs Chojja, that chojja has.
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ChaosKnight
Profile Joined April 2007
United States819 Posts
July 14 2007 06:06 GMT
#65
Chojja... ZvP
taktak
Profile Joined August 2006
91 Posts
July 14 2007 19:43 GMT
#66
rech, just because i hate zerg :<
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