EPTHow are you feeling about SC2 esports headed into 2020?
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TL.net Bot
TL.net134 Posts
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gnuoy000
31 Posts
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
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jedi1982
United States172 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3124 Posts
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that_one_danny
7 Posts
I dont know how to feel. havent touched the game in 2 weeks, which is insane for me. I just feel too burnt out, when playing terran. for now id say negative. the game doesnt feel like fun anymore. | ||
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Obamarauder
697 Posts
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yxme
15 Posts
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Kitai
United States880 Posts
My biggest concern is the stagnation of the Korean scene. Feels like every GSL is the same names over and over again. | ||
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Dedraterllaerau
113 Posts
Blizzard had the entirety of Heart of the Swarm plus years in LOTV teaching everyone what a poorly designed unit the swarm host is and yet it still remains in the game, this is also where Infested Terrans enter the picture with the same problem, free units do not belong in Starcraft, you are adding another element of economy which the 2 other races do not have. (could get me started on Injects and mules aswell) I believe the end of 2020 will be Zerg dominated with Terran close second and Protoss still left in the dust since they decided to keep screwing over Protoss in 2020 aswell. If they do remove Infested Terrans there might be a slight chance Protoss can perform well with Carriers and storm in the late game vs Zerg but I doubt they will remove infested Terrans. Regardless of what happens after the next patch I trust Blizzard will do what they always do, if Protoss has something strong early in the patch it will be instantly patched before they can find a response to it, if Terran or Zerg has it might take a year+ to fix. What do I base this on? Carrier got nerfed hardcore before Zergs started to understand the strength of infested Terrans. Immortal all inns a problem? Got nerfed fast, zerg solved the problem themselves and shut it down before the patch was even released. These are only the latest, it is far from the first time it has happened. I called all this early 2019, we are now closing in on December and the only thing Blizzard managed to do for 2019 was nerf the already weakest race Protoss to the ground because they were to busy listening to the complaints from ignorant twitch chat/biased streamers. Meanwhile, Zerg gets away with the most broken Meta SC2 has ever seen in its history. Not to mention so many SC2 Pro's inability to even try to make unbiased opinions towards Blizzard, you wanna win I get it. You need some people with real leadership/understanding and vision for the game Blizzard, you are not gonna find the answers if you keep looking to people with obvious bias for inputs. You need someone who truly understands the game and has a vision for great RTS gameplay. | ||
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Hvvacha
82 Posts
On November 12 2019 15:30 Dedraterllaerau wrote: Worried about Blizzard balance/design team, watching the changes they do to the game while a few are good like the obvious ones ( Swarhost nydus abuse / removing Infested Terrans ), outside of those obvious changes they seem to have no clue of how to balance or how to design good gameplay. Blizzard had the entirety of Heart of the Swarm plus years in LOTV teaching everyone what a poorly designed unit the swarm host is and yet it still remains in the game, this is also where Infested Terrans enter the picture with the same problem, free units do not belong in Starcraft, you are adding another element of economy which the 2 other races do not have. (could get me started on Injects and mules aswell) I believe the end of 2020 will be Zerg dominated with Terran close second and Protoss still left in the dust since they decided to keep screwing over Protoss in 2020 aswell. If they do remove Infested Terrans there might be a slight chance Protoss can perform well with Carriers and storm in the late game vs Zerg but I doubt they will remove infested Terrans. Regardless of what happens after the next patch I trust Blizzard will do what they always do, if Protoss has something strong early in the patch it will be instantly patched before they can find a response to it, if Terran or Zerg has it might take a year+ to fix. What do I base this on? Carrier got nerfed hardcore before Zergs started to understand the strength of infested Terrans. Immortal all inns a problem? Got nerfed fast, zerg solved the problem themselves and shut it down before the patch was even released. These are only the latest, it is far from the first time it has happened. I called all this early 2019, we are now closing in on December and the only thing Blizzard managed to do for 2019 was nerf the already weakest race Protoss to the ground because they were to busy listening to the complaints from ignorant twitch chat/biased streamers. Meanwhile, Zerg gets away with the most broken Meta SC2 has ever seen in its history. Not to mention so many SC2 Pro's inability to even try to make unbiased opinions towards Blizzard, you wanna win I get it. You need some people with real leadership/understanding and vision for the game Blizzard, you are not gonna find the answers if you keep looking to people with obvious bias for inputs. You need someone who truly understands the game and has a vision for great RTS gameplay. weakest race, not even having the least amount of 1st places in premier tournaments this year | ||
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DrunkenJedi
Germany175 Posts
We had ASUS ROG back this summer which was awesome but the viewership was so bad, it's really sad to see. | ||
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Darkness2k11
Chile313 Posts
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Howard_Kao
China261 Posts
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ThunderJunk
United States725 Posts
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paddyz
Ireland628 Posts
On November 11 2019 09:04 gnuoy000 wrote: i'm not sick of the game, i feel like the active players are all amazing, and i love the personalities we have from the streamers, to the casters, to the progamers themselves. i think the game is still good and I don't have negative feelings toward the game. the balance is bad right now, but i have hope that it will improve. however, i am not hopeful that we will see the same level of investment, particularly from blizzard. so i put negative. it would be nice to be proved wrong. Exactly the same here. | ||
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ArcadePlus
United States44 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
No Blizzcon for BW is big blow too, they only made 2 (can't even call that Blizzcon because it's only bo5 match between two pros but still that was something) because game kinda was new'ish. Now only 3 devs run Remastered and they push updates half a year with 1% change. I got a feeling both games can fall apart. | ||
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Tayar
United States1439 Posts
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etsharry
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HOOCHIEMOMMA
6 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
On November 12 2019 08:48 Kitai wrote: Feeling positive overall. There's still plenty of passion and financial support, and the balance team is attempting to address zerg domination. I'm also very happy that China brought team leagues back to the spotlight - it feels like they're trying to fill a hole that has been missing for a while in that regard. My biggest concern is the stagnation of the Korean scene. Feels like every GSL is the same names over and over again. WCS is the Serral/Reynor show but that's a-ok right? | ||
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DanceSC
United States751 Posts
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fgonzo
108 Posts
On November 11 2019 12:50 NoS-Craig wrote: I feel positive so far. IEM and HSC are still going.I know on the pylon show they said the reason SC2 isn't on Dreamhack or MLG is because of WCS scheduling. If we lost WCS I'm sure we'd get other tourneys like MLG and Dreamhack We should get rid of WCS, or unlock region lock. We can now see that foreigners are on par with or better than Koreans right now. | ||
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SLCMemento
13 Posts
1) The e-sports viewing community wants what people want in every one of the biggest sports on the planet (soccer, basketball, baseball, hockey, etc.), teams. It is by far more enjoyable to root for a team than an individual player, who other than very rare exceptions, careers don't last long at the top. I think SC2, or SC3 at this point, needs a real team game focus in addition to 1v1, maybe two different versions of the game/balance. 2) New players. Let's be honest, whats the average age on TL, 30 maybe? I'm 36. SC2 is an old mans game haha. The scene needs to draw in younger players to replace the many retirements, and it needs to make big structural changes to draw in younger viewers. 3) Business model - Blizzard needs money to justify more development. I've spent about $140 bucks to play a game for 9 years, not great for them. I'd like to see even single units added to the game every so often. Something new to spur excitement in the game. Of course a full new expansion would be great too. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4235 Posts
Interesting. | ||
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ThunderJunk
United States725 Posts
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AntiHack
Switzerland553 Posts
On November 13 2019 06:04 DrunkenJedi wrote: The worst Global Finals ever certainly doesn't help. But still it's the on and only RTS eSports. So there will be coverage. But SC 2 is certainly not on the rise. We had ASUS ROG back this summer which was awesome but the viewership was so bad, it's really sad to see. The only RTS esport? | ||
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AntiHack
Switzerland553 Posts
On November 29 2019 23:18 SLCMemento wrote: I'd like to see even single units added to the game every so often. Something new to spur excitement in the game. Why do you even mention "esport" when talking of this crap? | ||
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