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What do you consider the biggest WCG upset

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iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
November 05 2002 05:52 GMT
#1
w00t first vote & comment I rawk
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
November 05 2002 06:03 GMT
#2
So I can tell everybody you voted for JoseZ, since I'm second and onl your vote is up yet, lol.
Executor VS Wizard was a big upset too, which saved Elky from elimination...
EvanSlayer
Profile Joined October 2002
Brazil228 Posts
November 05 2002 06:19 GMT
#3
Omg... why HG vs Nazgul was an upset?? Ive wrote on the forum it wouldnt be a surprise at all if that happened, although 99% of u were betting on naz -_-;; and HG would have done much better if his lack of experience on big Lan tourneys and the fact that against MTY he played at Yellows side with dozens of koreans watching him (something he has never been trough bfr) scared him a bit...just like u said about Blackman, give this kid some good team to practice and he would earn respect really soon....
it all returns to nothing...and only truth can really set us free.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
November 05 2002 06:22 GMT
#4
I guess..

10 options is plenty though (and also the max)

Personally I find Blackman vs Oddysay at Valhalla one of the biggest (maybe THE) upsets. All in all Nirvana making it to the second round and maybe Froz beating Boxer TWICE are the biggest upsets of the tournament to me (I knew Froz was able to beat him, but 2 times without a single loss, wow).

As for seperate games I'm going for Blackman vs Oddysay (mostly because it was Valhalla) with Josez vs Boxer as a close second.
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iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
November 05 2002 06:23 GMT
#5
<b class=quote>On November 05 2002 15:03 X)Benny wrote:</B><BR> So I can tell everybody you voted for JoseZ, since I'm second and onl your vote is up yet, lol.
Executor VS Wizard was a big upset too, which saved Elky from elimination...


All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
Last Edited: 2002-11-05 07:05:03
November 05 2002 06:54 GMT
#6
I vote for Froz #2. USA USA USA!

Beating Boxer once in F2F tourney on a cheezy fluke is nice (Jose), but beating him twice, and the 2nd time in a do or die playoffs, wow!

As analogy, imagine an amature part-time golfer doing the same thing to Tiger Woods.

To site admin:

(Liquid'Meat... when voting and commenting on poll from the forum area, I keep getting returned to the last I viewed forum thread instead of poll thread, which I think is better behavior.)
Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
VaNille
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada204 Posts
November 05 2002 07:34 GMT
#7
Sure the JoseZ one is a big upset, but it pales in comparison to the 2nd game between FroZ! and Boxer. Defeating Boxer once is one thing, but doing it a second time in a row is just outrageous. Not only was the match up TvT, a match up that heavily favours Boxer, but defeating him on his own turf warrants that the second match between Froz and Boxer be considered as the biggest upset of WCG2002.
To be or not to be... Make up yer friggin' mind!?~
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
November 05 2002 09:08 GMT
#8
Froz vs BoxeR 2nd time, IMO.

BoxeR could have underestimated Froz in their first game, but he knew the latter had already beaten him before playing the second one...
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M@calex
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada81 Posts
November 05 2002 13:46 GMT
#9
YOU FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT!!!!

Josez vs. Didi8 was the biggest upset in my mind, this gave A LOT OF CHANCE TO BOXER to go to double elimination !!!

Think about, if Didi8 won this game, probably Froz would have won against Boxer and Chobo and BYE BYE BOXER.

Man i can't believe you forgot this one :/
Who really tought Josez could beat a someone a second time?

PLEASE replace Nirvana vs. Whear , to this one OMG.
Eat it
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
November 05 2002 15:18 GMT
#10
Yes, in fact there could be two categories:
-biggest upset for a match (Froz > Boxer 2nd imo, Boxer had to play 150% and still lost)
-biggest consequence on the tournement: JoseZ vs Didi, Executor vs Wizard, those games could have eliminated Boxer or Elky
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
November 05 2002 17:00 GMT
#11
On November 05 2002 16:34 VaNille wrote:
Sure the JoseZ one is a big upset, but it pales in comparison to the 2nd game between FroZ! and Boxer. Defeating Boxer once is one thing, but doing it a second time in a row is just outrageous. Not only was the match up TvT, a match up that heavily favours Boxer, but defeating him on his own turf warrants that the second match between Froz and Boxer be considered as the biggest upset of WCG2002.


TvT "a match up that heavily favours Boxer?" TvT has always been cited as Boxer's weakest link. I agree tho that beating Boxer twice "on his own turf" was a huge surprise.

By "upset," I take it the poll means which result was the most surprising or unexpected. By that yardstick, JoseZ beating Boxer seems to me the biggest upset of WCG 2002. Froz beating Boxer twice is also big and comes a close second, but it should be kept in mind Froz is still a "known" player and came to the games as USA #1 - he should be given more credit.

My FAVORITE upset tho (as opposed to my opinion of the BIGGEST) is Didi v His Keyboard. Perhaps not quite the "upset" the pollster had in mind, but "upset" is the appropriate word to describe it, I think. Thx for that one Breeze. Very clever. I'm still laughing about that...
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
[5]~!
Profile Joined October 2002
United States34 Posts
November 05 2002 17:48 GMT
#12
The sweet just aint as sweet without the bitter
Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
November 05 2002 19:12 GMT
#13
JoSeZ vs Boxer by far, Josez is a DECENT T player whom I have beaten before. No one EVER expected him to get at the time his only win vs someone like boxer.
VaNille
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada204 Posts
November 05 2002 19:14 GMT
#14
TvT "a match up that heavily favours Boxer?" TvT has always been cited as Boxer's weakest link

How is FroZ!s TvT? There's not a lot of his replays floating around the BW sites. The reps of Boxer's TvTs I've seen, especially the 5-game series vs St. Eagle awhile back, showed that he was quite skilled in that match up. As for it being his worst, it's not the same as saying that he sucks in TvT. As for underestimating FroZ!, I didn't mean to, I understand that it takes a talented gamer to qualify 1st place out of the US 2 years in a row. He is skilled, but before WCG started who would have thought that Boxer would be beaten twice in a row? I figured that since this was an international competition, with pressure and large prizes at stake, there were going to be surprises such as great players losing to more obscure players but who thought that Boxer would drop 2 consecutively? I don't think anyone did.
To be or not to be... Make up yer friggin' mind!?~
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
November 06 2002 15:35 GMT
#15
What happened between Didi and his Keyboard? They broke? Can anyone explain please!
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
November 06 2002 15:43 GMT
#16
IMO the biggest upset is this: after two rounds, Yellow, Elky, Oddy, Junwi, Grrrr..., Froz!, Naz were in the loser bracket's, from which only one can finish top 3, and only 2 can finish top 6, while Boxer, Blackman, MTY and Ranger were in the winner's bracket, so they all had to finish top 6...
This due to weird brackets and to Grrrr..., Froz, Oddy, Naz losing unexpected early games.
PressStart
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4 Posts
November 06 2002 18:46 GMT
#17
Jose vs Boxer...
If it wasnt so fun, I wouldnt have played year after year.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
November 07 2002 00:03 GMT
#18
I don't see how Grrrr losing to Fisheye is unexpected though. I think Fisheye is a better player (also since Grrrr hardly practises) and even if not I still wouldn't say it's unexpected.

I agree on the others kinda
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
November 07 2002 06:33 GMT
#19
Didi broke his keyboard after losing the valhalla game vs Box0r. Any pictures?
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uT)CyrAx
Profile Joined October 2002
United States282 Posts
November 07 2002 09:33 GMT
#20
i didn't find blackman v oddy an upset, i know what blackman's zvt was capable of, and compared my zillion tvz with him to oddy. it was rape. on HOV at that. very well done by blackman

hg vs naz i was a little surprised about, i knew HG had some fire, but i knew naz was the favorite. guess my article says something =[ haha? =[
-.,- ~cyraxle
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
November 08 2002 01:44 GMT
#21
what does your article say?
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TeG-EviscEratoR
Profile Joined October 2002
Romania101 Posts
November 08 2002 02:35 GMT
#22
Josez vs Boxer obviously. It's hard to understand how Boxer could lose that game even after watching replay :p
anyone got any ideea how can I get other replays that are not on wcg.com ? Like Yellow vs Elky or tie breaker matches in group B and D ?
GG yes re.
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
November 08 2002 09:32 GMT
#23
i think blackman is rather the strat-player. he goes with unusual but very elaborate strats but seems to be lost if someone's "smart" enough to adapt his strats quickly (look @the game vs boxer). i'd say his win vs oddyssay was a big upset because oddy just didn't know him...it would have been oddy's win if it was bo3 or bo5 i think.
RedMeat
Profile Joined September 2002
United Kingdom490 Posts
November 09 2002 04:37 GMT
#24
Maybe not if he'd dropped the first game on HoV? Blackman is quite nasty on char and jungle story and in bo3 one of those two would have had to come up. Also I think blackman has great micro which wins him a lot of games rather than being purely a "strat player". In case anyone didn't guess blackman is my new favorite zerg player .
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 16 2005 22:21 GMT
#25
how was fish > elky an upset ? wtf :D
hatred outlives the hateful
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