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Blizzard has more or less left it up to the team captain to decide the outcome. But what is for sure is that kosiro is gone. We have a choice of replacing him, or continuing on with 7 players. I will make the decision tonight after I talk to some people, but I already know what I think is the right course of action.

On September 24 2006 20:39 neSix wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=44355

What if that's true? Is he definitely gone no-matter-what? Is this even our decision, or is it entirely up to Blizzard?

Suddenly this Kosiro situation makes me very sad.

On September 24 2006 20:58 Peyong wrote:
I say go with what we have or choose yosh, Lets trying to keep this as tl.net as possible. Bcuz its obvious what happens when you leave it in the hands of others. Very bm kosiro (Not even considering if it is true, bcuz it obviously is ;p)

by.fantasy ftw ~!

On September 24 2006 14:51 NeVeRDiEDrOnE wrote:
Sorry for caps but this is really important:


I wrote in PGR about the TL vs FiFo result yesterday, here is the page:

PGR's Sandlot 1st week results


And today, Polaris[ArnC] from team PGR, who is a friend of Kosiro, saw the post and replied:


"Hello, I'm Polaris
I want to talk about the Kosiro issue a little bit.

After I saw the TLvsFIFO result post, I rushed to him asap to ask, and show him the news, since I know him personally.
As I was assuming, he didn't know about it at all and was completely suprised by it. And he asked me to post the real circumstances for him here:

Kosiro said that he was actually preparing for the Sandlot match.

On that day he was in a very bad shape because of the aforementioned Pentech meeting after PL, but he didn't dare to fail the tournament so he went to a nearest internet cafe in the middle of the meeting for the games.
But the settings in that place was really horrible, so after game 1 he decided to move to Pentech headquarters.

So he played then HIMSELF game 2 and 3 there, and he went all-in strategies in both games because of his low shape. And won both.

To the suspicion that the replay analysers claimed firefist to have played instead, he replied that he unquestionably played the game himself, and replay shall be analysed as much as needed.

He did his usual in that game, so everything shall be the same and he's innocent.When the final result of replay analysis says forfeit, he will accept it to get kicked out of the tournament.

I(Polaris) have personally varying APM's between 270 and 450 depending on my shape. APM shouldn't be the mesure since progamers have varying APM's too quite often.

We both feel sorry for the issue, and Kosiro said he was aiming to achieve good results so he practiced the non-pro maps quite a lot. And he absolutely couldn't do anything about the scandle.

He further asked to consider that he tried his best actually although he was in a real bad shape.

He've heard about getting kicked out of team TL, but he will give his best for the team victory when he's allowed again to play the tournament.

I(Polaris) really hope this post gets through to TL master, and he feels regrets for the unlucky circumstances.

I know him quite well personally, he is a very nice boy and well-mannered gamer. I really hope that TL shows understanding and Kosiro does well again."



He added his email adress p.s. but I think he doesn't speak eng so I excluded. You can ask me or go to the link or just use this forum.

On September 24 2006 22:53 OneOther wrote:
[[From pgr]]


안녕하세요
Hello
Kosiro 라는 아이디를 쓰는 이재억 이라고 합니다.
I am Lee Je Uk aka Kosiro
여기에 저에 관련된 글을 보다가, 글을 남기게 되었습니다.
I saw posts regarding what happened so I decided to go ahead and write one..
직접 아이디를 만들어서, 글을 올리려 했으나, 새로 만든 아이디는 글쓰기가 안되더군요,, 그래서 아이디를 잠시 빌렸습니다.
I am using Polaris' ID because making a new ID would not let me post.
우선.. 상황부터 말씀드리자면, 대회전 갑작스레 개인적인 일이 생겨서 대회를 피시방에 가서 하게되었습니다. 컨디션도 매우 나쁜상태였구요 하지만 전 그래도 이길려구 생각많이했습니다. 일딴 컨디션이 안좋기 때문에 3판2승제 였는데 모든게임 올인으로 게임 시작하기도 전에 생각했구요. 모든겜 10분도 안됩니다.

First of all, to explain what happened, I suddenly had a personal problem so I was forced to play at a PC Cafe. I was in a bad contiion also but I wanted to win really bad. But since it was Best Out Of 3 Match I decided to go all-in in all of them - not one of them lasts more than 10 minutes.
피시방에서 1차전을 하게되었습니다. 그러다 졌구요, 셋팅상태가 좋지 않아 근처에 숙소로 자리를 옴기고자, 양해를 구하려고 그때의 제 상황을 말씀드렸구요.. 하지만 그게 제 뜻과는 다른 정보로 사람들귀에 들어간거 같아 개인적으로 많이 안타깝습니다.
I played the first game at the Cafe, and I lost. I disliked the setting so I asked pardon so I could go back to my practice room...and I am disappointed people were misinformed of what really happened during that period of time.

제가 소속된 TL팀에서 이 일로 저를 제외한다 해도 저는 전혀 상관이 없구요, 다만 저는 좋은취지로 열리는 대회라, 최근에 준비중인 대회도 없고해서 많이 준비하였습니다.
참 의도와는 다르게 불미스러운 일로 번지고 말았네요 정말 죄송합니다.
상대선수 Draco 선수께도 죄송하구요, 한국에 계시니 다음에 볼수 있을것입니다. 그때 불쾌했다면 사과하면 되는것이구요,,
이 pgr 이란곳에 글을 첨 쓰는데, 몇줄 안되는 글쓰는데도 참 힘드네요 ㅜㅜ
It won't matter that much to me if TL.Net excludes me from the team because of what happened, but since this tournmanet was a important/fun one and I did not have any other upcoming ones, I practiced a lot for them. I am really sorry for all the unexpected trouble I caused. I apologize to my opponent Draco for what happened, especially considering I will meet him sometime soon since he is in Korea.

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정말 대회가 성공적으로 치뤄졌으면 좋겠구, TL팀의 우승을 바랍니다.
불미스러운 일이 발생하게 되어 다시한번 사과의 뜻을 전합니다. 죄송합니다
새로운형식의 대회라 많이 기대하고 준비했는데 이젠,
어렵게 새로운팀에 들어와 소속팀에 누가 되지 않을까 많이 걱정되네요 ㅜ ㅜ
I sincerely hope this tournament goes well, and I wish the best and victory for teamliquid.net
I apologize again for the unexpected mess. I am sorry.
It was a new and creative style of tournament so I was excited and prepared for it.
It worries me that I harmed the team instead...

On September 25 2006 00:11 chris672 wrote:
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On September 25 2006 13:44 Night[Mare] wrote:
im afraid i dont know lionking and couldnt cast a vote

On September 26 2006 17:05 muramasa wrote:
Why not replace Kosiro with FireFist? He raped Draco pretty hard. ^_^

On September 24 2006 22:23 ChoboCop wrote:
Take LionKing. Akuhna Matada.