EPTI am both excited and worried people don't understand the options.
What do you think of the WCS 2014 changes?
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tili
United States1332 Posts
I am both excited and worried people don't understand the options. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Verator
United States283 Posts
I think also WCS AM is too dominated by koreans and this will fix nothing, and it will only get worse for the NA scene. | ||
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superpanda27
111 Posts
On November 21 2013 11:37 Verator wrote: I feel like it's probably too little too late, even though the changes are positive. I think also WCS AM is too dominated by koreans and this will fix nothing, and it will only get worse for the NA scene. Can you please elaborate on how it will get worse for the NA scene with the change? | ||
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Mahdi
Russian Federation7 Posts
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TJ31
630 Posts
Now some of those players will be able to play in premier league thanks to reserved spots. If they'll play vs eachother = not interesting to watch, if they'll be unlucky to play vs good koreans = they'll get stomped. So yeah, I'll probably watch much less of WCS AM/EU next year, because I watch SC2 for high quality games, not to cheer for some local "talents". But I guess it's the matter of preferences. There're people who cheer for their hometown football (soccer for US people) team, no matter how much they suck. Those people probably wanted the full region lock for WCS. And then there's people who don't give a f*ck about their lame hometown team, but they love quality football, so they watch Champions League, English Premier League etc. Those people won't agree with region lock in any form. | ||
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astray71
United States325 Posts
On November 21 2013 13:18 TJ31 wrote: While it's a partial region lock, it's still sucks. WCS AM/EU (mostly AM) challenger league this year was depressing to watch most of the time, because skill level is too low. Now some of those players will be able to play in premier league thanks to reserved spots. If they'll play vs eachother = not interesting to watch, if they'll be unlucky to play vs good koreans = they'll get stomped. So yeah, I'll probably watch much less of WCS AM/EU next year, because I watch SC2 for high quality games, not to cheer for some local "talents". But I guess it's the matter of preferences. There're people who cheer for their hometown football (soccer for US people) team, no matter how much they suck. Those people probably wanted the full region lock for WCS. And then there's people who don't give a f*ck about their lame hometown team, but they love quality football, so they watch Champions League, English Premier League etc. Those people won't agree with region lock in any form. I honestly have to agree. I fully supported Koreans in other regions because of the quality of the games produced. I can understand that people want to see hometown players (Huk, Suppy, etc), but if we get a game between 2 newcomers, I'm not sure if I want to see a 50 minute game with poor decision and basic micro errors that should not be happening on a stage this big. | ||
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TaishiCi
Korea (South)211 Posts
On November 21 2013 13:18 TJ31 wrote: While it's a partial region lock, it's still sucks. WCS AM/EU (mostly AM) challenger league this year was depressing to watch most of the time, because skill level is too low. Now some of those players will be able to play in premier league thanks to reserved spots. If they'll play vs eachother = not interesting to watch, if they'll be unlucky to play vs good koreans = they'll get stomped. So yeah, I'll probably watch much less of WCS AM/EU next year, because I watch SC2 for high quality games, not to cheer for some local "talents". But I guess it's the matter of preferences. There're people who cheer for their hometown football (soccer for US people) team, no matter how much they suck. Those people probably wanted the full region lock for WCS. And then there's people who don't give a f*ck about their lame hometown team, but they love quality football, so they watch Champions League, English Premier League etc. Those people won't agree with region lock in any form. It feels like it is mostly the players' families and gfs that really "support" the local teams. While the players and coaches watch high level play to emulate them. I think it is clear that highest level of play is the most important in sports, those that don't care for it are just posers/hipsters. | ||
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ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
On November 21 2013 12:41 Mahdi wrote: Region lock is the most bad thing, IMO. I'mnot saying that it was not hard to compete with koreans, it's just feels like cowardness, don't you think. It will be kinda pitiful to watch players from other region in season finals, and with this mind set it will be hard to advance through koreans. There are no season finals in 2014. | ||
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Mahdi
Russian Federation7 Posts
Yes you are right. Only Global Finals. | ||
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Maegi
Finland174 Posts
On November 21 2013 10:32 Plexa wrote: Almost perfect changes. The one drawback is the bo5 determining whether people make it into premier or not. That feels too luck based in matchup pairings. Would have preferred 8 dual tournament style groups. I totally agree. Otherwise nearly perfect. Would really love to see OSL tho :O | ||
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tili
United States1332 Posts
On November 21 2013 13:18 TJ31 wrote: While it's a partial region lock, it's still sucks. WCS AM/EU (mostly AM) challenger league this year was depressing to watch most of the time, because skill level is too low. Now some of those players will be able to play in premier league thanks to reserved spots. If they'll play vs eachother = not interesting to watch, if they'll be unlucky to play vs good koreans = they'll get stomped. So yeah, I'll probably watch much less of WCS AM/EU next year, because I watch SC2 for high quality games, not to cheer for some local "talents". While the Challenger league for AM and EU might be this way, there are more than enough talented and exciting sc2 players to fill out Premier league, and this will separate the moderately good foreigners from the very good. (albeit, there will still be some Korean stomps) | ||
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Gaius Baltar
United States449 Posts
In particular, I don't want to see finals on the same day as the semi finals this year. | ||
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Radicalness
United States271 Posts
I think the new method is a good compromise. | ||
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Iceman331
United States1306 Posts
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
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Survivor61316
United States470 Posts
Thats the only thing that kept me from marking off highly excited instead of moderately | ||
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Jerom
Netherlands588 Posts
I feel like a partial region lock might be the best thing, to force the players from the region to have a serious chance to compete aswell. Also, the increased Korea pricemoney will draw more koreans to korea which is good I guess. It'd probably be even better if they'd pretty much double the pricemoney in the korea region compared to the other regions, since the competition is a lot higher. Overall though, this should be a step in the right direction. | ||
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
Also the scheduling changes help out a lot with letting indie tournaments back into the scene, offering even more player opportunities. There's nothing but good here, folks, if you care about NA/EU upping their skills. | ||
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Mistakes
United States1105 Posts
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