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NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
August 24 2006 01:21 GMT
#21
On August 24 2006 04:19 GeneralCash wrote:
wtf, ever)p(TT is the only one with any chance. his pvt and pvp are amazing for such a young player!!

unfortunately, there is a 10 to 1 chance he will be kicked out by a zerg early on. if he gets lucky and reaches boxer in the finals, he actualy has a chance of winning!! at least he has better pvt than anytime.

rock is a definition of a mediocre player, allways wins a few rounds, but never quite has what it takes to be a champion. bisu is a joke nowdays, he tends to get raped by completely unknown players. that might be cuz he underestimates them, and there might be more of a chance for him to make an upset, than to win a "sure thing", but i doubt it. as for anytime, it depends wich opponents he gets during the rounds, if he gets a lot of toss opponents, he will get far, but he also seems to lose to underdogs a lot since he won that mouse thingy last year.

Are you confusing TT and bisu? TT is not a "young player"...he's 21 by our standard. Bisu on the other hand is something like 16 or 17, which makes me wonder how you can say bisu is a joke "nowadays" since he doesn't have a really long history as a progamer.
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
August 24 2006 03:14 GMT
#22
I don't think a toss can win it, but I'm quite confident in saying that Rock will make it the deepest in the tournament out of all the tosses in it so far.

Anytime is in one of the worst groups of death ever (not that the other tosses have it easy), and the other 2 are new. And to Rock's credit, he is a constant qualifier and has played many good games throughout his OSL career.

He'll do well in this one.
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KimmoL
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway256 Posts
August 24 2006 05:25 GMT
#23
anytime gogog -.-
DanceWithGoons
Profile Joined March 2006
Poland49 Posts
August 24 2006 06:56 GMT
#24
Bisu for life !
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
August 24 2006 07:39 GMT
#25
1) Anytime
2) Maybe Bisu
3) Nope
4) No fucking way!
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
August 24 2006 08:48 GMT
#26
Why the hell would there be a none option? I am not asking you if a toss is going to win, I am asking, if a toss does win, which one will it be.

This isnt bloody rocket science.
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africanboy
Profile Joined July 2006
Korea (South)453 Posts
August 24 2006 10:38 GMT
#27
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

bisu will be the new legend
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
August 24 2006 12:04 GMT
#28
rock is going to continue the tradition

carriers = instant win
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Schiller
Profile Joined March 2006
Germany308 Posts
August 25 2006 01:47 GMT
#29
last OSL rock lost to iris in such a horrible way so I can not believe that he will win one more game... this was just poor....

I hope all Toss will make a good OSL...
DN2perfectionGM
Profile Joined August 2004
United States233 Posts
August 25 2006 02:36 GMT
#30
TT has better pvt than anytime????

no way 0.o anytime's strength is pvt!
JHU
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
August 25 2006 04:39 GMT
#31
On August 24 2006 04:19 GeneralCash wrote:
wtf, ever)p(TT is the only one with any chance. his pvt and pvp are amazing for such a young player!!

unfortunately, there is a 10 to 1 chance he will be kicked out by a zerg early on. if he gets lucky and reaches boxer in the finals, he actualy has a chance of winning!! at least he has better pvt than anytime.

rock is a definition of a mediocre player, allways wins a few rounds, but never quite has what it takes to be a champion. bisu is a joke nowdays, he tends to get raped by completely unknown players. that might be cuz he underestimates them, and there might be more of a chance for him to make an upset, than to win a "sure thing", but i doubt it. as for anytime, it depends wich opponents he gets during the rounds, if he gets a lot of toss opponents, he will get far, but he also seems to lose to underdogs a lot since he won that mouse thingy last year.



What???

This post is full of misinformation!

1.) TT is best known for his PvZ.

2.) Since when is TT young? He's 21 I think? And he's been a progamer for years.

3.) How can he face Boxer in the finals? Boxer DID NOT QUALIFY.

4.) His PvT is not better than Anytime's. What, did you watch 1 rep of each of them and comapre or something?

5.) Rock is the definition of a mediocre player? No. He's not a champion, but he's not mediocre. The mediocre ones are the ones who consistently fail to qualify for OSL/MSL. Rock has been known pull of surprise wins on good players (cough July, cough Gorush).

6.) Bisu not doing well anymore? Bisu has only been progamer for 1 year. Getting raped by unknown players????? Uhhhhhh....who exactly are you talking about?

7.) Anytime doesn't lose to underdogs. He gets beaten a lot by stronger players. Anytime is not a sucky player, but he's not a fantastic player. He has a fairly extensive professional record that is 58-59, just under 50% wins. His records in PvT, PvP and PvZ are all about even wins/losses, though most people consider him a PvT monster. (He has a slight winning record against Terran and a slight losing record against Zerg with an even record against Protoss, but in terms of difficulty of opponents, his PvP and PvT outshine his PvZ, where his opponents are generally weaker.)

8.) Anytime did not win the golden mouse. You need 3 OSL wins to earn it, and Anytime has exactly 1 win in OSL. Anytime blocked Boxer from earning the mouse when he won SO 1 OSL.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
August 25 2006 04:45 GMT
#32
I voted Bisu. Something about him just really impresses me. Not just his macro and control (otherwise I'd vote Anytime), but his ability to control the flow of the game. That's the mark of a champion.


Anytime doesn't impress me so much. He had a good run, but he's not the uber monster people think he is, and it's not his PvZ that holds him back. It's his game sense that holds him back. He is really good about analyzing maps and developing strategies and he has good macro and good control, but he doesn't have the greatest sense for timing or what his opponent is doing. He makes up for his lack of this 6th sense by practicing really hard to workout the timings of his build orders very precisely.

Guys like Savior and Midas have much better timing sense. If you watch them play, they can use the same builds everyone else uses but since they have better timing sense, their attacks are more effective and their macro is slightly stronger, and other people aren't able to immitate it so easily even though it is a "standard" style of play.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
SCNewb
Profile Joined June 2006
Canada2210 Posts
August 25 2006 05:03 GMT
#33
anytime for sure..........lol
Huge iloveOov fan
CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
August 25 2006 08:27 GMT
#34
On August 23 2006 23:26 Sfydjklm wrote:
where is neither?


it disappeared when mani created more than two options
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
August 25 2006 09:55 GMT
#35
On August 25 2006 13:45 Mortality wrote:
I voted Bisu. Something about him just really impresses me. Not just his macro and control (otherwise I'd vote Anytime), but his ability to control the flow of the game. That's the mark of a champion.


Anytime doesn't impress me so much. He had a good run, but he's not the uber monster people think he is, and it's not his PvZ that holds him back. It's his game sense that holds him back. He is really good about analyzing maps and developing strategies and he has good macro and good control, but he doesn't have the greatest sense for timing or what his opponent is doing. He makes up for his lack of this 6th sense by practicing really hard to workout the timings of his build orders very precisely.

Guys like Savior and Midas have much better timing sense. If you watch them play, they can use the same builds everyone else uses but since they have better timing sense, their attacks are more effective and their macro is slightly stronger, and other people aren't able to immitate it so easily even though it is a "standard" style of play.

Am i the only one who voted Bisu because i think he looks awesome ;;.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
KorvspaD
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Sweden468 Posts
August 25 2006 20:57 GMT
#36
Bisu is AWESOME
for all we could have done and all that could have been...
africanboy
Profile Joined July 2006
Korea (South)453 Posts
August 26 2006 10:16 GMT
#37
bisu almost win every match 2vs2
espoto@hotmail.com -add me
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
August 26 2006 11:39 GMT
#38
bisu fighting !~
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
Asakura
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Germany471 Posts
August 26 2006 22:39 GMT
#39
anytime for sure
Man is disturbed not by things, but by the views he takes of them. (Epictetus)
Bruceling
Profile Joined May 2006
United States392 Posts
August 27 2006 05:43 GMT
#40
Bisu is the perfect toss... he's sexy too
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