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dmtran87
Profile Joined September 2011
United States32 Posts
May 09 2013 22:16 GMT
#1
zvz... not surprised... -_-
Araneae
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway100 Posts
May 09 2013 22:17 GMT
#2
I don't get why people hate zvz so much o.O I like it how it is now, both playing and watching, alot more fun than roach infestor vs roach infestor imo
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
May 09 2013 22:23 GMT
#3
On May 10 2013 07:17 Araneae wrote:
I don't get why people hate zvz so much o.O I like it how it is now, both playing and watching, alot more fun than roach infestor vs roach infestor imo


It's a LOT better than before but it's still the worst for me.
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Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
May 09 2013 22:44 GMT
#4
Confused to why people don't like zvz, i think its the 2nd most enjoyable to watch after tvz. And i'm a protoss player
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SiegeFlank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States410 Posts
May 09 2013 22:46 GMT
#5
I voted ZvZ, not that I hate the matchup by any means, I just like it the least. All the matchups are pretty exciting right now.
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porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
May 09 2013 22:49 GMT
#6
Crap I misread it as the most interesting MU
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Havefaith
Profile Joined June 2010
90 Posts
May 09 2013 23:28 GMT
#7
PvP...

They should disable colossus for this match up.
IamHobbyless
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany29 Posts
May 09 2013 23:34 GMT
#8
dafuq... tvz at 3. place .....
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MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
May 09 2013 23:43 GMT
#9
Yeah wtf TvZ is the best matchup...
dirtydurb82
Profile Joined December 2012
United States178 Posts
May 09 2013 23:43 GMT
#10
ZvZ... I don't get why that's even allowed? Not only the coin flip nature of it, the current metagame is horribly dull (muta vs. muta) I like that Blizz is trying to correct this, but still, yuck. One of the problems with ZvZ is just the nature of the units as you view the game. 30 tiny lings running around like ants is really not all that fun to watch! A similar low-tech micro battle between, say Blink Stalkers and Slow Stalkers and Phoenix or mech vs bio in the other mirror matchups make them way more fun to watch.

ZvP is probably the best HotS matchup right now, Super fun!
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
May 09 2013 23:45 GMT
#11
Oh I thought the poll said most entertaining, not least.
I guess ZvZ, yes
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Pachacutec
Profile Joined March 2012
Peru53 Posts
May 09 2013 23:47 GMT
#12
On May 10 2013 08:28 Havefaith wrote:
PvP...

They should disable colossus for this match up.


im with you, at least SG openings arent a huge gable anymore, but still, if i dont scout for like 1 min for any reason and my oponen goes for 2 robo on 2 bases im fucked up, how the hell i stop herp derp 5+ colos -.-
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iViNtaGe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States254 Posts
May 10 2013 00:00 GMT
#13
TvT and ZvZ
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chuky500
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
France473 Posts
May 10 2013 00:22 GMT
#14
ZvP in a few weeks when the zerg have fully understood the swarm host corruptor mix.
Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
May 10 2013 00:36 GMT
#15
Wooooot TvZ is amazing. The best matchup by far :S
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
May 10 2013 01:10 GMT
#16
fuck i forgot people can't read
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Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
May 10 2013 01:11 GMT
#17
The protoss mirror.
I still like lings versus banes.
Time warps, not so much.
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
May 10 2013 01:12 GMT
#18
Surprised that people agree with me that TvZ is the worst non-mirror at the moment (and most boring matchup overall, as I voted). We aren't seeing much diversity in the matchup right now and idk I just don't find it that great. I still enjoy watching it but overall I do find it the worst to watch right now.
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
May 10 2013 01:47 GMT
#19
how can anyone even vote tvp!!!!?!!??!?!??!?!
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Splunge
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany925 Posts
May 10 2013 02:14 GMT
#20
lol i thought most entertaining xD voted zvp
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 02:16:25
May 10 2013 02:14 GMT
#21
On May 10 2013 10:12 Hall0wed wrote:
Surprised that people agree with me that TvZ is the worst non-mirror at the moment (and most boring matchup overall, as I voted). We aren't seeing much diversity in the matchup right now and idk I just don't find it that great. I still enjoy watching it but overall I do find it the worst to watch right now.

Let me guess, you play protoss?

I thought it was "most entertaining" and voted TvZ... I think others have made the same mistake.
sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
May 10 2013 02:30 GMT
#22
ZvZ. I always skip'em when watching vods. I just don't find it entertaining at all Zzzzzzzzz
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
May 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#23
Unreal how many people failed at reading comprehension ...

It used to be PvP for me but ZvZ these days has me closing streams.
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
May 10 2013 03:11 GMT
#24
On May 10 2013 11:14 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:12 Hall0wed wrote:
Surprised that people agree with me that TvZ is the worst non-mirror at the moment (and most boring matchup overall, as I voted). We aren't seeing much diversity in the matchup right now and idk I just don't find it that great. I still enjoy watching it but overall I do find it the worst to watch right now.

Let me guess, you play protoss?

I thought it was "most entertaining" and voted TvZ... I think others have made the same mistake.


I don't see how that has anything to do with it when I think like ZvZ and TvT more than TvZ right now. And I liked TvZ more in the past too. It can still give great games but the current state of it already feels stale to me.

And I think people should take a bit more time to read in the future if that is the case.
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Sharpen
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 03:34:20
May 10 2013 03:33 GMT
#25
I actually prefer Roach-infestor zvz in WoL than the muta vs muta zvz we see now. At least in WoL if you had less infestors it wasn't gg, you could actually fungal your way into good engagements and come back. Now if they have 1-2 more mutas than you, you might as well tap out. Incredibly boring to play, even worse to watch, and it results in 2011 zvz ling bane all-ins (just as bad as 4gate vs 4gate pvp in WoL).

I can't understand anyone thinking this matchup is good at all... I'm suprised it didn't take more of the vote than it already has.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
May 10 2013 04:13 GMT
#26
THIS IS WHY YOU FAIL AT STANDARDIZED TESTING
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skylarr
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada209 Posts
May 10 2013 04:29 GMT
#27
Zvz now is reminiscent to bw zvz. Some good shit
hillman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States162 Posts
May 10 2013 04:31 GMT
#28
T v T more entertaining than T v Z according to the poll? Ha!
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 10 2013 04:32 GMT
#29
On May 10 2013 08:47 Pachacutec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 08:28 Havefaith wrote:
PvP...

They should disable colossus for this match up.


im with you, at least SG openings arent a huge gable anymore, but still, if i dont scout for like 1 min for any reason and my oponen goes for 2 robo on 2 bases im fucked up, how the hell i stop herp derp 5+ colos -.-


You're kidding, right?

Mass Colo builds should be ezpz, especially if you're opening Stargate. Learn the power of the Void Ray + Immo composition.
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Lalyth
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada5 Posts
May 10 2013 04:37 GMT
#30
TvZ is actually my favorite match-up !! I'm sure half the people read it wrong lol
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
May 10 2013 04:42 GMT
#31
Muta vs Muta battle = no thank you
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SolarJto
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States260 Posts
May 10 2013 04:42 GMT
#32
If everyone read the question right, it would be 100% ZvZ right? xD
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doner0
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States233 Posts
May 10 2013 05:17 GMT
#33
i'm amazed that zvz was voted up there. i voted zvp all day
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
May 10 2013 05:34 GMT
#34
oh shit, I didn't read it right...

I voted for the most entertaining. Darn.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
May 10 2013 05:39 GMT
#35
ZvP more entertaining than ZvT ? euurm ... I think a lot of people read it wrong xD
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
May 10 2013 05:43 GMT
#36
Ling/Bling skirmishes are the fastest, craziest micro battles in the game. Can't hate ZvZ for that reason. PvP on the other hand is very build-order dependent, and the games rarely ever seem close.
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SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
May 10 2013 05:44 GMT
#37
oh shit i misread the poll and answered TvZ.. lol
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Trollfar
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden22 Posts
May 10 2013 05:59 GMT
#38
I´m playing zerg most and i just dont like goin up against my own race. If I was a terran player I would probobly not like tvt.
ofc this is a vote for watching. But still i like all other matchup much better to watch.

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dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 06:01:52
May 10 2013 06:01 GMT
#39
well this poll is scewed by people misreading already.. i guess it should maybe be remade with making it a little more obvious what is meant (e.g. "which is the LEAST interesting matchup to watch?")

I for one voted ZvZ, because it simply is the least entertaining match at the moment, in all fairness though, i still think it's less awful than in WoL...

ZvP was the least entertaining thing for me in WoL though, which has really come a great way (maybe my opinion is slightly off on this because the last zvp i watched was between parting and life)
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Atlasy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Hungary229 Posts
May 10 2013 06:04 GMT
#40
LOL TvZ shouldn't be that high in fact it should be the lowest. It has always been the best MU. I don't understand ppl. It should be 95% zvz 5%pvp and that's it.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 10 2013 06:19 GMT
#41
hands down zvz for life i can barley get excited for it if it's symbol vs drg
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 06:58:41
May 10 2013 06:57 GMT
#42
I love how people were hating on all the PvX matchups in WoL and now PvT and PvZ are apparently the most entertaining.

Voted ZvZ too. Seen too much of it in WoL and while it's nice to get away from the horrible matchup it was, it's still not fun to watch.
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Terrasmith
Profile Joined February 2013
47 Posts
May 10 2013 07:02 GMT
#43
TvZ feels kind of dull unless innovation is playing. Almost everyone else builds widow mines and prays for good hits. At least innovation is entertaining with his micro. I've always found TvT fun because I like positional play. PvP is less terrible, but still kind of boring. PvT is SO rigid.You know everything that will happen, and it almost always comes down to templars vs ghosts or mass colossi. That said, I enjoy multipronged attacks, and terrans are the best at that.

I like ZvP because it's so different from WoL, except that watching a 30 minute no rush into mass void ray tempest is almost as dull as brood lord/infestor was. ZvZ...I love the ling micro, hate mutas. Muta ZvZ is the most boring type of game to watch.
Patate
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada441 Posts
May 10 2013 07:06 GMT
#44
TvZ 3rd spot? Really?

Along with TvT, they have been the most ( only) entertaining matchups since 2010.
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Inkblood
Profile Joined February 2010
United States463 Posts
May 10 2013 07:09 GMT
#45
Damn, I misread the question. (I must be too tired.) For some reason I thought it asked which is the most entertaining match-up. Thus, let it be known that I would have voted for ZvZ rather than TvT. Right now the muta battles are just monstrously stupid. I like the fast paced nature of the match up, and ling wars can be surprisingly entertaining. But the way muta v muta operates is too boring.
Gene(S)is
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden419 Posts
May 10 2013 07:44 GMT
#46
ZvZzzZzzz
For the swarm
SfynX
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom83 Posts
May 10 2013 07:48 GMT
#47
i dont hate ZvZ but defo my least favourite to watch... and play XD
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
May 10 2013 07:53 GMT
#48
On May 10 2013 16:06 Patate wrote:
TvZ 3rd spot? Really?

Along with TvT, they have been the most ( only) entertaining matchups since 2010.


many ppl missread the poll and might have polled for tvz because they like it the most.

for me the worst matchup is PvP because i often dont understand whats going. ZvZ is also bad but I understand whats going on.
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SkatesSC
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States191 Posts
May 10 2013 08:05 GMT
#49
Like others have said... ZvZ is way more entertaining than it was before but it is still not that great in my opinion.
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Terrasmith
Profile Joined February 2013
47 Posts
May 10 2013 08:10 GMT
#50
Fungal is designed to make games boring, but a game being decided because there was a 4 supply difference in two a-moved muta balls is stupid.
RoranRock
Profile Joined October 2011
France294 Posts
May 10 2013 08:17 GMT
#51
sad that ZvZ became the least enternaining match up
it has always been PvP, but now...mutas :/

as a zerg i still prefere ZvZ to PvP but mutas vs mutas is really not enjoyable
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Dvriel
Profile Joined November 2011
607 Posts
May 10 2013 08:50 GMT
#52
Laser show 1 vs Laser show 2 is by far the worst,but as we have seen sooooo many ZvZzzzzz lately,now is the most hated...
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 10 2013 08:58 GMT
#53
On May 10 2013 10:10 Waxangel wrote:
fuck i forgot people can't read

LOL. that quote is signature worthy :D
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 10 2013 10:24 GMT
#54
On May 10 2013 10:10 Waxangel wrote:
fuck i forgot people can't read

dat title choice.
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
May 10 2013 10:36 GMT
#55
I accidentally voted TvZ since I misread the least as most. Oops

But I obviously meant ZvZ.

I am shocked TvZ is third. It's still the most entertaining matchup imo.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 10 2013 10:40 GMT
#56
Yeah, why is TvZ 3rd? it's easily the best of the 9.

TvP and ZvP imo are the worst to watch, TvP is definitely the worst one I play.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 10 2013 10:52 GMT
#57
ZvZ easily. This is like the only matchup that got worse in HotS.

Little diversity, short, and far more volatile. Incontrol nailed it at the beginning of HotS pretty much:

16:45. Moonglade later conceded in a followup discussion :/

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Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
May 10 2013 10:52 GMT
#58
On May 10 2013 19:40 Targe wrote:
Yeah, why is TvZ 3rd? it's easily the best of the 9.

TvP and ZvP imo are the worst to watch, TvP is definitely the worst one I play.


We only have 6 matchup's What game are you playing?
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
May 10 2013 11:19 GMT
#59
On May 10 2013 19:40 Targe wrote:
Yeah, why is TvZ 3rd? it's easily the best of the 9.

People can't read
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 11:44:54
May 10 2013 11:44 GMT
#60
On May 10 2013 19:52 Frankenberry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 19:40 Targe wrote:
Yeah, why is TvZ 3rd? it's easily the best of the 9.

TvP and ZvP imo are the worst to watch, TvP is definitely the worst one I play.


We only have 6 matchup's What game are you playing?


I was talking about from a player's perspective.

On May 10 2013 20:19 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 19:40 Targe wrote:
Yeah, why is TvZ 3rd? it's easily the best of the 9.

People can't read



hahaha I commented on that then completely blinded myself when I looked at TvZ being 3rd, I'm a real idiot sometimes.
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Skytt
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland333 Posts
May 10 2013 11:57 GMT
#61
ZvZ is horrible to watch after the ling/bling antics are over. Muta vs Muta without something like scourge makes it awful to watch.
Macheji
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania103 Posts
May 10 2013 12:02 GMT
#62
Oh noes. I voted tvz ( Tho I am protoss ) as I read " most entertaining" . When i saw the results i started laughing while thinking : " So many trolls".
RampageMode
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany3 Posts
May 10 2013 12:37 GMT
#63
wow
i think ZvZ is kinda boring, because its like WoL PvP. there are just a few builds, the midgame is 99% muta v muta, and after one big engagement its mostly obvious whos going to win.
the other reason could be, i am no zerg^^
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MythZero
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)102 Posts
May 10 2013 12:48 GMT
#64
Wait...TvZ is the 3rd least entertaining matchup? What is wrong with this community?
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 10 2013 12:57 GMT
#65
On May 10 2013 21:48 MythZero wrote:
Wait...TvZ is the 3rd least entertaining matchup? What is wrong with this community?


My guess is that many zergs feel it's an imba match-up, they voted it as a protest ._,
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Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
May 10 2013 13:49 GMT
#66
They're all great!

But PvP is just too predictable with all that one-base action. Hard choice between PvP and ZvZ though but I've seen some amazing matches from every combination.
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Profile Joined April 2013
Belize731 Posts
May 10 2013 14:00 GMT
#67
On May 10 2013 10:10 Waxangel wrote:
fuck i forgot people can't read

CRITICAL ERROR
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Ortz
Profile Joined August 2011
United States4 Posts
May 10 2013 14:02 GMT
#68
I'm not a fan of any mirror matchup really, but ZvZ is awful.
Igaryu85
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany195 Posts
May 10 2013 14:41 GMT
#69
I totally like ZvZ cause its actually quiet action packed especially in the beginning and picked TvZ as least entertaining cause at the moment it just way to often ends in the Terran placing a gazillion mines and Zerg at some point loosing cause they cant keep up with the constant drop harrass and pushes combined with the ever growing minefield infront or between their bases.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 14:59:30
May 10 2013 14:57 GMT
#70
Z v Z and P v P are both the least interesting matchups to watch for me. Z v P is my least favorite of the non mirrors. Maybe it has something to do with me being a Terran player but still....

That said, Z v Z games with hyper aggro builds can be fun to watch. Ling bane wars can be interesting if both players are on the same page and both have solid micro. The high drone count style is just boring as hell in that match up.
ynori
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia21 Posts
May 10 2013 15:12 GMT
#71
ZvZ. all they do is either early super aggro or muta/lings

the only thing that can make this matchup entertaining is to replace all zerg unit models with MLPs... and add rainbows
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Foxyshazam
Profile Joined December 2012
United States38 Posts
May 10 2013 15:17 GMT
#72
[QUOTE]On May 10 2013 11:33 Scarecrow wrote:
Unreal how many people failed at reading comprehension ...

Kfcnoob
Profile Joined January 2011
United States296 Posts
May 10 2013 15:24 GMT
#73
The data in this poll has been thoroughly biased by the fact that many answerers read the question incorrectly.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 10 2013 15:38 GMT
#74
On May 10 2013 21:57 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 21:48 MythZero wrote:
Wait...TvZ is the 3rd least entertaining matchup? What is wrong with this community?


My guess is that many zergs feel it's an imba match-up, they voted it as a protest ._,


It was people misreading it as fav. matchup, not least fav.
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LennoxPM
Profile Joined May 2012
Lithuania84 Posts
May 10 2013 15:58 GMT
#75
ZvZ is most interesting matchup, which is actually really fun to play if you are able to play at 250-300 apm. I dont like TvT because it is very dull and stale.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
May 10 2013 16:27 GMT
#76
Something seems wrong.Probably some people misread the question and that's why TvZ has so many votes.
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Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
May 10 2013 16:28 GMT
#77
If you'd account for people misreading it it will prolly be something like

55% ZvZ
25% PvP
10% TvT
10% rest of the match ups

Conclusion: Mirrors suck
joquinn
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada14 Posts
May 10 2013 16:30 GMT
#78
On May 10 2013 10:47 asdfOu wrote:
how can anyone even vote tvp!!!!?!!??!?!??!?!


Because if the Protoss plays it right and denies harassment and the Terran plays smart and doesn't over extend into a well defended P the match up can turn into a no action 15 minute maxed vs maxed fight which just ends the game... It definitely can be exciting but it can also be boring as hell and very anti climatic.
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joquinn
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada14 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 16:37:14
May 10 2013 16:36 GMT
#79
On May 10 2013 15:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I love how people were hating on all the PvX matchups in WoL and now PvT and PvZ are apparently the most entertaining.

Voted ZvZ too. Seen too much of it in WoL and while it's nice to get away from the horrible matchup it was, it's still not fun to watch.


Considering that a good amount of people mistook the poll for most entertaining I have my doubts that those are the actual favourite match ups.
Terran Fighting!
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
May 10 2013 16:38 GMT
#80
On May 10 2013 07:49 SwatRaven wrote:
Crap I misread it as the most interesting MU

Same here...
sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
May 10 2013 16:41 GMT
#81
PvP - I don't watch a ton of it, but from what I've seen, it's a weird, nebulous matchup. Sometimes it's multiple stargate phoenix, sometimes blink stalkers, sometimes zealot archon, sometimes immortal void ray, sometimes mass colossus. The only 'standard' thing in the matchup is that it still trends towards colossus vs. colossus in the late game - which, just like in WoL, is the most painfully boring thing to watch in SC2.
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InSpiReZerG
Profile Joined January 2010
United States159 Posts
May 10 2013 16:49 GMT
#82
ZvZ is awesome... people are just sheeps repeating the opinions of others.
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BlackPride
Profile Joined July 2012
United States186 Posts
May 10 2013 16:55 GMT
#83
I personally love both playing and watching ling/bling wars. Don't get why people could ever consider that as dull.
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Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
May 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#84
Okay even though some people misread the tread, TvZ is currently more unpopular than TvT in this poll. I seriously don't get it. It has always been my favorite matchup. Could someone put into words, what wrong with TvZ, cause I am totally baffled x)? Thanks in advance
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 17:05:33
May 10 2013 17:05 GMT
#85
On May 11 2013 02:03 Frankenberry wrote:
Okay even though some people misread the tread, TvZ is currently more unpopular than TvT in this poll. I seriously don't get it. It has always been my favorite matchup. Could someone put into words, what wrong with TvZ, cause I am totally baffled x)? Thanks in advance


The only explanation is people misread the title -_-

It was the best MU in BW, WoL, and also in HoTS.
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
May 10 2013 17:15 GMT
#86
On May 10 2013 08:28 Havefaith wrote:
PvP...

They should disable colossus for this match up.

just go mass phoenix every PvP
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RevTiberius
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada353 Posts
May 10 2013 17:34 GMT
#87
I don't like mirror match-ups, and ZvZ is by far the worst
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habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
May 10 2013 17:45 GMT
#88
TvZ at third place? Wtf? ZvP is way worse... Maybe many people misread or something :/
Riquiz
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands402 Posts
May 10 2013 18:01 GMT
#89
ZvZ is just fundamentally boring.
The larva mechanic makes for stupid situations where one zerg saves up one round of larva and then just kills his opponent.
It also suffers from both players(races) being reliant on massing a huge amount of units, the same units.
It almost makes you wish blizzard would either implement a similar system to C&C Generals, where factions had sub-factions in the form of generals. These generals specialised in certain tech routes and would enhance them.
Or make you able to be a race-picker in the ladder system.
Hey, let me dream ok?

ZvZ is probably as good as it can be as soon as people find out how to not go mutas 10/10 times.
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Cable
Profile Joined January 2011
116 Posts
May 10 2013 18:11 GMT
#90
On May 10 2013 11:14 Splunge wrote:
lol i thought most entertaining xD voted zvp

Me too. I bet half of the people actually voting on this particular poll thought it was the "the most entertaining".
FastAce
Profile Joined August 2011
Bosnia-Herzegovina22 Posts
May 10 2013 18:42 GMT
#91
Wow, so according to this TvP is the most popular match-up.
But yea, ZvZ is so boring. It always ling/bane intro mutalisk nowadays.
Buddy168
Profile Joined June 2012
United States157 Posts
May 10 2013 18:55 GMT
#92
TvT = T.T
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tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 19:26:03
May 10 2013 19:24 GMT
#93
TvT and PvP.... Zzzzzzzzzzzz

ZvZ is so deliciously mechanics/decision making dependent, and so, so active. It's actually one of my favorite match ups.
Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
May 10 2013 19:43 GMT
#94
Meh, read it wrong and voted for the best matchup
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 20:11:55
May 10 2013 20:09 GMT
#95
Wax, can you make a new poll that has "most entertaining"? seeing as people don't read what they vote for, this poll isn't an accurate reflection of opinion

perhaps write MOST in caps
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
May 10 2013 20:37 GMT
#96
ZzZzZvZzZzZ
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KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
May 10 2013 20:41 GMT
#97
Meh, it was hard to choose between TvT and ZvZ. I figured TvT was more boring to me because they usually are so long. Some games can be really interesting, but that's the case for pretty much any matchup.
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Kpaxlol
Profile Joined April 2010
813 Posts
May 10 2013 21:08 GMT
#98
TvP and PvP.
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Rokevo
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1033 Posts
May 10 2013 21:09 GMT
#99
ZvZ is terrible.

But ever since BW, TvT has been the only match-up that I cant watch, so it got my vote.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 10 2013 21:14 GMT
#100
On May 10 2013 13:13 Waxangel wrote:
THIS IS WHY YOU FAIL AT STANDARDIZED TESTING


This community looks like it has a lot of very young people who haven't taken their SATs yet, much less prepared for them.
Sunshinewalker
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany34 Posts
May 10 2013 23:51 GMT
#101
Yeah might aswell start the poll again, as half the people misread it seemingly.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 11 2013 00:31 GMT
#102
who voted tvz... wtf
:)
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
May 11 2013 00:35 GMT
#103
Why wouldn't you phrase it "the worst mu to watch" or somethign like that...?
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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 11 2013 01:23 GMT
#104
The only surprise here is that ZvZ doesn't have every single vote :p


ZvZ is really the only mu that got worse in HotS!
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Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
May 11 2013 01:57 GMT
#105
What a surprise...
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
May 11 2013 02:43 GMT
#106
Wow surprised zvz is up there. I voted pvp but mainly because there's too much of it in proleague. Are the ppl voting zvz still playing WoL? lol
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TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
May 11 2013 02:44 GMT
#107
What happened to "None"?
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 11 2013 03:08 GMT
#108
--- Nuked ---
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
May 11 2013 03:23 GMT
#109
I like pretty much all matchups.. if I had to pick one, I'd probably say ZvZ,
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
May 11 2013 04:10 GMT
#110
I hate you guys so much I would be fired if I were on EG
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Exempt.
Profile Joined May 2011
United States470 Posts
May 11 2013 04:14 GMT
#111
On May 10 2013 10:47 asdfOu wrote:
how can anyone even vote tvp!!!!?!!??!?!??!?!


TvP is my least favorite matchup of all time. It's been marine marauer medivac against herp derp swap between collossus / ht and terran swapping between viking / ghost. It's extremely stupid just watching mmm stim kiting against a deathball 10 minutes straight with drops and dozens of marauder shots just to kill a SINGLE zealot.

But I'm in the minority apparently...

I consider the three protoss matchups the most boring: PvT, PvP, then PvZ, then ZvZ.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 07:03:09
May 11 2013 07:00 GMT
#112
ZvZ < TvT < PvP < ZvP < TvZ < TvP
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
May 11 2013 07:51 GMT
#113
PvP may be one of the worst matchups, but too watch it is one of the best. If u know what I mean.
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Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 07:58:21
May 11 2013 07:55 GMT
#114
TvP has been the most entertaining matchup for almost a year now, in WoL and now with HotS.

It's kinda surprising how PvZ went from being the most reviled matchup by far at the end of WoL to becoming now the second favourite matchup among fans. Kudos to Blizzard for fixing that matchup!

ZvZ is still the worst, but now it's kinda worst by default. It's better than it used to be, but still not as good as the other 5. Roach Infestor is dead...but now we have endless Muta wars. The Mothership Core and specifically Photon Overcharge really fixed the volatility of the PvP matchup, but Blizzard is understandably having a hard time making ZvZ more stable and varied without messing up the other matchups.
Nagas
Profile Joined July 2012
Lithuania19 Posts
May 11 2013 07:59 GMT
#115
On May 10 2013 11:14 Splunge wrote:
lol i thought most entertaining xD voted zvp


same here..damn it!!! zvz is worst for sure, best zvt for me.
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Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 08:22:34
May 11 2013 08:18 GMT
#116
On May 10 2013 07:49 SwatRaven wrote:
Crap I misread it as the most interesting MU

On May 10 2013 08:45 KadaverBB wrote:
Oh I thought the poll said most entertaining, not least.
I guess ZvZ, yes

On May 10 2013 11:14 Bagi wrote:
I thought it was "most entertaining" and voted TvZ... I think others have made the same mistake.

On May 10 2013 11:14 Splunge wrote:
lol i thought most entertaining xD voted zvp

On May 10 2013 14:34 DidYuhim wrote:
oh shit, I didn't read it right...I voted for the most entertaining. Darn.

On May 10 2013 14:44 SamirDuran wrote:
oh shit i misread the poll and answered TvZ.. lol

On May 10 2013 16:09 Inkblood wrote:
Damn, I misread the question. (I must be too tired.) For some reason I thought it asked which is the most entertaining match-up.

On May 10 2013 19:36 yoshi245 wrote:
I accidentally voted TvZ since I misread the least as most. Oops

On May 10 2013 21:02 Macheji wrote:
Oh noes. I voted tvz ( Tho I am protoss ) as I read " most entertaining" . When i saw the results i started laughing while thinking : " So many trolls".

On May 11 2013 01:38 Leetley wrote:
Same here...

On May 11 2013 03:11 Cable wrote:
Me too. I bet half of the people actually voting on this particular poll thought it was the "the most entertaining".

On May 11 2013 04:43 Ammoth wrote:
Meh, read it wrong and voted for the best matchup

On May 11 2013 12:08 Emzeeshady wrote:
Me, I thought it said most entertaining TT

On May 11 2013 16:59 Nagas wrote:
same here..damn it!!! zvz is worst for sure, best zvt for me.



Wow Wax why did you create such a confusing poll? "Least Entertaining"? That is some M.C. Escher drawing, Foucauldian jargon, Borgesian labyrinth shit, man. Why would you put a negative modifier on a positive adjective? Who do you think you're writing for, Linguistics PhD students? Next time just write it in plain fucking english: "WHHAT MATCHUP BAD BAD () WATCH???".
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
May 11 2013 08:22 GMT
#117
Do both players get hive tech and defilers/devourers? Then not ZvZ.

Do they stay on mutas and speedlings? Then usually ZvZ unless 4pool is involved.
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Chimo
Profile Joined May 2013
1 Post
May 11 2013 08:56 GMT
#118
Z v Z for me as well sadly. Partly because I don't understand Z at all and partly because the matchup just doesn't entertain me.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
May 11 2013 09:23 GMT
#119
This level of reading comprehension explains so many posts on this forum.
Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
May 11 2013 09:52 GMT
#120
Of course so many people are going to say ZvZ because Mutas are all the buzz right now, but seriously how can people not enjoy the openings of this match-up way more than PvP. I'm sorry but there is nothing interesting in coin flippy horse crap and lasers are only interesting for so long.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
May 11 2013 11:38 GMT
#121
On May 10 2013 11:14 Splunge wrote:
lol i thought most entertaining xD voted zvp

Me to - and I voted ZvZ o_O
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3682 Posts
May 11 2013 13:27 GMT
#122
Really don't get how zvz is winning this. it is by far my favorite matchup to play and to watch in hots, and my main race is actually protoss. Since bio/marine tank is still the most common unit composition overall I had to go with tvt, I really fucking hate marine/tank and bio, once everyone starts mech though that will change a lot.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
May 11 2013 14:18 GMT
#123
yooo maek mutas ho shit he got 1 more I lost the game :'(:'( that's so terrible, both to play and watch. As much as I like the early ling/bane wars, the whole muta thing is really terrible imo ..
nakam
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden245 Posts
May 11 2013 14:24 GMT
#124
Very surprised TvZ is third. I find it by far the most entertaining matchup.
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Luftmensch
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
277 Posts
May 11 2013 14:53 GMT
#125
Hmmm... how can people find ling/bling battles boring I'll never know, where you have to be on your toes every moment because one unit sneaking to the mineral line can decide everything, now is that excitement or what? On the other hand, the snoozefest that is TvT get so high rated and for what? Before you compare it to chess - if I wanted to watch chess then I'd go watch chess.
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mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
May 11 2013 14:54 GMT
#126
Why no option for "All are equally entertaining" or something like that?
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
May 11 2013 17:19 GMT
#127
Waxangel, forgetting people can't read since 1999.

Seriously, I did a double take, assumed it was a favorite matchup to watch poll, almost voted TvZ

Not sure what it is, but TvZ has always been my favorite matchup since the beta, everything else kind of pales in comparison, TvP had it's day but it was never quite as exciting. Idra vs Bomber back a year and a half ago at MLG, those were some of the best games of sc2 that I've ever seen.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
May 11 2013 17:36 GMT
#128
Really high level TvT and PvT is just mindblowingly awesome to me... ZvZ worst for me
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Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
May 11 2013 17:42 GMT
#129
I don't get how people can dislike TvT. It's usually pretty action packed at the higher levels, and there is always room for a comeback. I was actually going to vote it as most entertaining, but fortunately I reread the question just before voting.
Maegi
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland174 Posts
May 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#130
Oops lol thought it said most entertaining like everyone else here :D
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Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
May 11 2013 18:27 GMT
#131
Wow, I am shocked to see TvZ is beating out TvT as more boring of a matchup. Then again, I read the poll wrong and voted for TvZ, thinking it was one of the more exciting matchups........ :3
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nehl
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany270 Posts
May 11 2013 19:02 GMT
#132
sht i missread and thought most entertaining -.-
well gonna go with zvz then i guess...
PyroN
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden53 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 19:27:17
May 11 2013 19:26 GMT
#133
ZvZ = Least entertaining and TvZ is the MOST entertaining, probably many folks that misread it.

EDIT: May i ASK do you zerg guys also find TvZ most entertaining?
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jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
May 11 2013 20:08 GMT
#134
Huh, thought for sure it's PvZ...but I'm a terran so that might be why! At least the ZvZ and PvP are kind of volatile matchups, while PvZ for me just seems like mostly a boring macro game, unless it's a boring immortal allin, or a boring roach max or some kind of bane allin
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NET
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States703 Posts
May 11 2013 20:17 GMT
#135
ZvZ coming from a Protoss player. PvP is up there though. Mirrors have always been less entertaining to watch even since broodwar days, so these results don't really surprise me.
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 11 2013 21:31 GMT
#136
zvz, slightly better than before but still terribly boring as hell.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 11 2013 21:44 GMT
#137
I really hate Protoss matchups. Voted PvZ as it feels so slow, usually just camping. Ofc there are exceptions. Maybe i watched too much HasuObs.

By average entertainment:

TvZ > TvP > TvT > ZvZ > PvP > PvZ.

Just my opinion though.
showBanquo
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden182 Posts
May 11 2013 22:32 GMT
#138
how the **** can more people find TvZ less entertaining than ZvZ? it's beyond me
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Conny Duck
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria90 Posts
May 11 2013 22:55 GMT
#139
On May 12 2013 04:26 PyroN wrote:EDIT: May i ASK do you zerg guys also find TvZ most entertaining?
There is nothing more satisfying than a bunch of Banelings destroying all the opponents marines.

And ZvZ sucks so hard at the moment. Rush for Mutas or die trying.
Traceback
Profile Joined October 2010
United States469 Posts
May 12 2013 01:14 GMT
#140
I thought it said the most entertaining match-up >.< I want my vote back to give it to ZvZ.
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
May 12 2013 03:18 GMT
#141
PvP. I just don't enjoy watching Protoss play in general so watching two of them play is the worst case scenario.
rinzz
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria26 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 05:52:33
May 12 2013 05:48 GMT
#142
When i see TvT, i just skip the match.
PvT>TvZ>ZvP>PvP>ZvZ>>>>TvT
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
May 12 2013 08:23 GMT
#143
How the hell is TvZ at 12% on this poll?

Either people misread the question or there are a bunch of liars in this thread. No way is TvZ the least entertaining match up out there.
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kiralykobra
Profile Joined May 2013
Romania7 Posts
May 12 2013 08:50 GMT
#144
The Terran related matchups are the most entertaining still the Terran is the weakest race... i miss the GomTvT so much :-(
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
May 12 2013 10:17 GMT
#145
65% can't read
Sch3lp
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium20 Posts
May 12 2013 10:50 GMT
#146
Was gonna vote ZvZ, but then decided that those banelings vs zerglings with the insane micro is more enjoyable to watch than TvT.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
May 12 2013 11:15 GMT
#147
how is ZvZ worse than PvP I don't understand @@
at least there are some actions like ling run by and counter attack and early baneling stuff.
pvp lategame is just lazerssssss
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Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
May 12 2013 13:04 GMT
#148
On May 10 2013 07:23 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 07:17 Araneae wrote:
I don't get why people hate zvz so much o.O I like it how it is now, both playing and watching, alot more fun than roach infestor vs roach infestor imo


It's a LOT better than before but it's still the worst for me.


This is so true
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Ireniicas
Profile Joined April 2013
66 Posts
May 12 2013 13:49 GMT
#149
ZvZ is fast paced but typically too linear at elite level. PvP is least entertaining
freewareplayer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany403 Posts
May 12 2013 14:18 GMT
#150
ZvZ is the only reason i dont consistently offrace as zerg, makes me ragequit.
ooDi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada170 Posts
May 12 2013 18:40 GMT
#151
oops..i voted the most entertaining matchup haha silly me
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ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
May 12 2013 20:07 GMT
#152
I really enjoy playing Muta v Muta, so much multitasking and the fight on 2 grounds, in which you both shouldnt fall behind make it really fun and skill based in my eyes. And if you play a matchup the experience while watching gets a lot better because you actually can learn smth new everytime and watch out for timings and stuff.

I actually voted for TvP I don't know why but i just hate this MU.
siax
Profile Joined April 2010
United States36 Posts
May 12 2013 20:08 GMT
#153
all mirror matches suck IMO
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Bumalate
Profile Joined January 2012
United States33 Posts
May 12 2013 20:53 GMT
#154
I dunno. I think that zvz is kinda boring in muta vs. muta. But honestly its still pretty fun to watch.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
May 12 2013 21:29 GMT
#155
ZvZ becomes boring to watch only when you have consecutive ZvZ matches to watch. The matchup is still interesting in its own right, and I don't care that the meta states muta vs muta every time. It can be interesting if you try hard enough to like it. I love how PvP works nowadays, so out of all the mirror matchups I dislike TvT the most, and TvT is consequentially my least favourite matchup to watch. All comes down to preference in the end.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
May 12 2013 21:30 GMT
#156
On May 12 2013 17:50 kiralykobra wrote:
The Terran related matchups are the most entertaining still the Terran is the weakest race... i miss the GomTvT so much :-(

Your first post had to be about balance T_T

How is Terran the weakest race?
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Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 22:01:57
May 12 2013 21:58 GMT
#157
It's good to see so many people like ZvP. I always thought the super late game swarm host vs ultimate toss is very entertaining and never understood it when people said they thought it was boring.
It looks like ZvT isnt very popular these days, I'm guessing its because of the widow mines (probably the worst designed unit in the history of the entire Starcraft series)
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TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
May 12 2013 22:16 GMT
#158
ZvZ. It's fun to watch at very early stages. Lings+blings micro and stuff like that is good, but if match doesn't end there...
32
Profile Joined February 2010
United States163 Posts
May 13 2013 00:02 GMT
#159
Wish we had instant runoff polls or something.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 13 2013 00:18 GMT
#160
I didn't vote because I think they are all fun to watch. I think that ZvZ is just kind of stuck in the Muta meta for now, but that doesn't make it not fun to watch though.
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Devilldog
Profile Joined October 2010
United States69 Posts
May 13 2013 01:00 GMT
#161
zvz use to be fun to play and watch for me. Now there is nothing i like about it.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
May 13 2013 01:28 GMT
#162
zvz might be the reason why IdrA was wishing cancers all over the place.


I wonder why there is even more than one choice
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awesomedood
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand3 Posts
May 13 2013 03:39 GMT
#163
go pvp YAY


:D
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awesomedood
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand3 Posts
May 13 2013 03:42 GMT
#164
will pvp win i hope it will yay PVP


:D
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Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
May 13 2013 05:40 GMT
#165
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 13 2013 05:48 GMT
#166
ZvP has been consistently the most boring matchup for me
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Deawesome1
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14 Posts
May 13 2013 07:09 GMT
#167
I think PvZ late game is so boring to watch honestly. PvP is also a lot of 1 base stuff so it's not really fun unless it's a macro pvp TvZ is the best match up period imo
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 13 2013 12:46 GMT
#168
ZvZ is so exiting in the early game, sick micro! ZvT is also a great micro splash (except lategame... T2 Broodlords..erm, I mean, Swarm Hosts..), but what I really do not like is ZvP. It is really, really boring - like, go ling into roach into roach/hydra or muta, go swarm hosts, wait, wait, wait, wait, win.

I like ZvT and TvT the most, and ZvP the very least. Everything else is fine.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
May 13 2013 14:01 GMT
#169
how is tvz 3rd, above a mirror
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 13 2013 15:12 GMT
#170
ZvZ esrly ling bling can be amazing to watch sometimes but the moment it gets into the mass muta levels.....Bleh
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MagnuMizer
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Denmark384 Posts
May 13 2013 15:21 GMT
#171
I agree with this poll entirely

TvP and ZvP the best matchups...

btw, i wish there was a button on ladder to disable mirror matchups when searching.. pvp is the reason i dont play 1v1 ladder
cloneThorN
Profile Joined September 2012
Denmark302 Posts
May 13 2013 15:24 GMT
#172
For me as a SPECTATOR it's in this order(top = worst mu to watch)
ZvZ Same dull things happen over and over, with no diviation at all. Gets boring really fast.
ZvP The scale og power is way too wierd in this one, making the game end either prematurely, or in a "10 min death animation".
PvP Early game feels disturbingly similar to rock paper scissors...
ZvT Same linar game development in all the games. We seriously need to make swarmhost or hydras viable vs bio, and mech viable vs zerg in general.
TvT Hellbat stronk yo.
TvP Best mu to watch. Both can make comebacks all game through and both can make very powerfull timings.

For me as a PLAYER it's in this order(top = worst mu to watch)

ZvZ and TvT gets a shared #1 on this one ---- GZ you two!
ZvP Feels like a clock have been set in place. Zerg needs to kill protoss before he get maxed in either carrier void ht, or tempest HT oracle.
PvP Again. Rock paper scissor
ZvT Takes way to long to be able to attack into terrans main.
PvT fun and awesome for both parts. Except maybe few strange things in early game.




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Svennedude
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium86 Posts
May 13 2013 17:48 GMT
#173
I bet alot of stupid people voted tvz because they read most entertaining matchup... by the way teamliquid, please do a most entertaining matchup! it HAS to be TvZ. otherwise Teamliquid is just full of protossers....
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 18:23:52
May 13 2013 18:22 GMT
#174
absolutely hate watching TvP. partially bc its my worst matchup personally, but also because I cringe so hard to see so many times where P is far behind and they land a storm and auto win game. Just such a boring stale matchup its exactly the same as WoL pretty much.
In order from least entertaining to most:

TvP
ZvZ
ZvP
PvP
TvZ
TvT
SoloZergg
Profile Joined October 2011
United States90 Posts
May 13 2013 18:22 GMT
#175
On May 13 2013 23:01 Zelniq wrote:
how is tvz 3rd, above a mirror


Some people might have accidentally voted TvZ...that's what I did, I voted way too fast without reading the full question haha. I would've voted for ZvZ though, it's the worst to watch, painful almost.
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_Proto_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States157 Posts
May 13 2013 19:45 GMT
#176
Surprised to see TvZ is 3rd - I've always loved TvZ. In both WoL and HoTS it has provided some of the best matches we have seen in SC2. So many good TvZs its impossible to list. Maybe it's a mistake or something :/
Foudzing
Profile Joined December 2011
France181 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 22:34:10
May 13 2013 22:33 GMT
#177
TvZ is third because "Reading the question? Ain't nobody got time fo dat!"

I voted ZvZ obviously, it's worst than in WoL and I did not think it was possible.
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may0nnaise
Profile Joined May 2011
United States40 Posts
May 14 2013 05:39 GMT
#178
ZvZ hands down.

TvP is the best :D. So exciting!

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iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
May 14 2013 11:00 GMT
#179
zvz and pvp are the clear winners of this unglorious trophy :D.
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
May 14 2013 11:17 GMT
#180
What I don't understand is how there are 1707 people out there who voted TvT as the worst matchup. I think you're crazy enough if you don't agree that TvT is the best matchup, but how can you possibly rate it last? Are these people trolling, are they angry Z/P players or what?
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DerZerfetzer
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany43 Posts
May 14 2013 14:39 GMT
#181
hate tvt... :D
kyriores
Profile Joined February 2011
Greece178 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 15:50:01
May 14 2013 15:49 GMT
#182
TvZ. You already know who will win it if it goes to lategame.
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Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
May 14 2013 20:54 GMT
#183
TvZ. In WoL I hated watching TvZ, but in HotS it is really awesome.
playlessnamer
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1 Post
May 14 2013 21:37 GMT
#184
lol, there is nothing more boring like 2 terrans siege around and turtle everything and drop like noobs/pros...
mGGTitan
Profile Joined October 2012
4 Posts
May 15 2013 00:55 GMT
#185
TvZ
While this is still entertaining, I feel like Marine+Tank TvZ like we saw in WoL was much more entertaining. TvZ is in a sense the 'classic' starcraft matchup, and tanks are a staple of that. Widow mines just make the matchup feel weird. A problem with TvZ in HotS is that, at least from the terran side, the matchup has been 'optimized'. The reaper opening is 'optimal' because it is safe and economic. The 3CC build is 'optimal' unless you spot early aggression. And long-term economic plays are 'optimal' because it's so hard to get anything done early game.
PvZ
We're seeing a lot more variation in this matchup now thanks to the mothership core and other new units. I think it's a lot more entertaining than its WoL counterpart. There is the danger of stalemates on maps such as Newkirk and Daybreak, but as long as we get more interesting maps into the map pool this shouldn't be a problem.
TvP
The best matchup, both to play and spectate. There's potential for anything to happen right from the early game, and HotS only made this better.
TvT
Overall I think this is an improvement from WoL. However, I feel like hellbat drops are too strong (or people need to deal with it better) and they're starting to get boring.
PvP
Really haven't seen many PvPs. The new tactics seem interesting but there's the risk that they can be too coin-flippy, which can be bad for both players and spectators.
ZvZ
At the ling/bling stage it's still pretty exciting, but when we get to mutas it's horrible. Hopefully the spore change will help with that.
thesums
Profile Joined December 2010
Taiwan257 Posts
May 15 2013 02:50 GMT
#186
Yep TvP is the best matchup to watch, and ZvZ is the least.... PvP and ZvZ are close though, both are quite painful to watch. I would say that PvZ and TvZ are painful to watch sometimes, because most of the time you see zerg struggling against the stronger race, unless the zerg is really good or goes all in, then you see the zerg just overrun the enemy.

Personally I like TvT and TvP if they do not just end in like 7 minutes. Then comes TvZ if it goes into late game.

I feel that hots is not really an improvement from wol unfortunately....it does not fix the problems:
1) Zerg is weak vs early pressures, but it gets new/upgraded units for mid-late game which they are strong enough already. As seen at the end of WoL, Zerg dominated, with 5 zerg players with highest win ratios on gom's site.

2) Protoss, known for that strong late game, and blizzard adds the tempest and better voids....I think photon overcharge is not a bad upgrade for protoss, but i think its range is overpowered....

3) Terran became I would say the weakest race at the end of WoL I would say (although it did start out as the strongest), and have problems with the late game. That is why terrans always like to mix in some gimmicky plays and cheeses. But hots does not fix this and instead gives it more cheese-able units like widow mines, hellbats and medivac boost......
SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
May 15 2013 02:53 GMT
#187
I'm surprised TvP is least voted LOL. But that's probably due to some people really really hating TvZ/PvZ so they HAD to vote for it or something. I think overall TvT is the best matchup for everyone 'cause it rocks
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kmdkt
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada22 Posts
May 15 2013 02:53 GMT
#188
i was voting in terms of broodwar zvz but i enjoy sc2 zvz
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WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
May 15 2013 06:50 GMT
#189
I really like ZvZ early game, but I hate ZvZ late game...
S1LVYR
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada8 Posts
May 15 2013 08:01 GMT
#190
I love ZvZ.... but thats only because i have a deep understanding of the matchup.
I can understand it being boring when you dont see the intricacies of the match.
Its so beautiful but it makes me sad that so many people wont get to experience it the same way T.T
Stol
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden185 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 13:15:46
May 15 2013 13:13 GMT
#191
On May 15 2013 17:01 S1LVYR wrote:
I love ZvZ.... but thats only because i have a deep understanding of the matchup.
I can understand it being boring when you dont see the intricacies of the match.
Its so beautiful but it makes me sad that so many people wont get to experience it the same way T.T


That could really be said about any matchup .

While muta wars themselves are far from stale and boring, I think that the fact that only a small part of the zerg arsenal is used time and time again is currently making the matchup as a whole rather dull and repetitive.

Edit: Voted for zvz as the least entertaining .
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 15 2013 13:52 GMT
#192
Easily ZvZ. As for why: it has neither flashy lazzors (protoss) or amazing explosions (terran)
Leberwurstbrot
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany144 Posts
May 15 2013 14:55 GMT
#193
TvZ seems pretty boring for me.. mines just blowing everything away, not that exciting to watch imo..
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
May 15 2013 16:11 GMT
#194
On May 15 2013 06:37 playlessnamer wrote:
lol, there is nothing more boring like 2 terrans siege around and turtle everything and drop like noobs/pros...



dude have you watched any TvT recently?

viking-tank days are long gone.

Imo, its the most dynamic of mirrors.

mutawars/free units vs free units stalemate or the guy who has more colossus arent that appealing to me.

but hey thats just me.
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 15 2013 16:31 GMT
#195
ZvZ ? loluwut..
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 15 2013 18:09 GMT
#196
I don't watch TvT unless it's a game of utter import starring a favorite player of mine.
Tempest636
Profile Joined June 2012
United States15 Posts
May 15 2013 19:41 GMT
#197
ZvZ ling v bane micro is still intense and takes so much skill...
Muta v Muta takes skill but is not intense as a viewer... it's usually clear who's slightly ahead and slightly behind due to ling runbys and the like, and once they both think they can fight, just one big A-Move muta flock v muta flock... game is decided in 5 seconds and in a very boring 5 seconds....
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ImAdonis
Profile Joined May 2013
15 Posts
May 15 2013 19:59 GMT
#198
On May 10 2013 07:17 Araneae wrote:
I don't get why people hate zvz so much o.O I like it how it is now, both playing and watching, alot more fun than roach infestor vs roach infestor imo

you don't understand why zvz is the least entertaining matchup to watch? Obviously it's due to the lack of diversity one sees in that MU. zvz = muta vs muta or simply ling/bling/roach attacks.... that is currently being tried to be changed by upgraded spore dmg heheh
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
May 15 2013 20:47 GMT
#199
On May 10 2013 10:12 Hall0wed wrote:
Surprised that people agree with me that TvZ is the worst non-mirror at the moment (and most boring matchup overall, as I voted). We aren't seeing much diversity in the matchup right now and idk I just don't find it that great. I still enjoy watching it but overall I do find it the worst to watch right now.



No... a lot of people just misread the question.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
May 15 2013 20:53 GMT
#200
Scourges is where it's at.
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DasHawk
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark362 Posts
May 16 2013 06:55 GMT
#201
ZvZ least favorite
And TvZ most favorite - by far, both playing and seeing.
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
May 16 2013 12:04 GMT
#202
Don't understand the TvZ in Third place... It's for me the best MU since the beginning of the game and i was so sad when the MU had problem at the end of WoL.
And there is clearly an important rivalry between T and Z players. 80% of the best games ever made were TvZ.
ForellenLord
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany10 Posts
May 16 2013 14:31 GMT
#203
I though they meant: most entertaining, so I votet PvZ x(

But I don't think ZvZ is least entertaining to watch.

It's always dancing on a very small rope, always action.

TvT is far more boring then ZvZ or PvP
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
May 16 2013 14:56 GMT
#204
TvT is easily the most boring. Although I have to say ever since HotS started I actually find most matchups to be very entertaining, and the most boring games don't depend on races but rather the players themselves.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
May 17 2013 14:45 GMT
#205
It's very frustating to watch and play muta vs muta!
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sAzu
Profile Joined March 2012
Iceland3 Posts
May 17 2013 18:12 GMT
#206
ZVZ is shit it's just lings banes vs ling banes then both go Muta and it is just muta war.. whoever that have more mutas wins... yes that is booring as helll !!!!
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DRob
Profile Joined May 2012
United States30 Posts
May 18 2013 00:08 GMT
#207
ZvZ has improved a lot but still my least favorite. It is enjoyable now, but still not better than any other matchup.
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Szei
Profile Joined November 2010
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 07:13:59
May 18 2013 07:09 GMT
#208
ZvP by far. Mass static D and swarm hosts is incredibly boring.

TvT has very interesting positional play. Lots of zone control and trying to out maneuver your opponent.
ZvZ is high octane and exciting to watch. I don't like it as much as other matchups, but it's a good change of pace.
PvP I'm not sure about at the moment but it's definitely better than WoL.
PvT is all around good.
ZvT is decent too. Way better than ZvP anyway.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 11:30:48
May 18 2013 11:29 GMT
#209
ZvZ less entertaining than PvP? I completely disagree but perhaps that's because I haven't seen a lot of PvPs in the GSL.

ZvZ is played in a razor's edge and is pretty volatile, making it quite an entertaining match up to watch.
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moondoggy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States14 Posts
May 18 2013 21:51 GMT
#210
zvz gets my pulse up especially with banelings. It can get slow late game but watching a roach/hydra/viper army against a ling/bling/ultra can be fun and dynamic. I suppose if i weren't zerg i would say it was but as a zerg pvp is the most boring. the units are so much more robust sometimes it can be a micro war but it used to at least just seem like a build order game.
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
May 18 2013 23:22 GMT
#211
ZvP-Mass Air Blob is retarded. Swarm Hosts are also very boring.

TvP- Bio is retarded. Bio should be about Micro and multitasking( Like Bio TvT and TvZ), not straight-up destroying Protoss.

PvP - Once the game hits Macro Mode.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
May 19 2013 06:41 GMT
#212
I have been playing random at a high level since hots release, and so far TvT is my favorite matchup due to all the options, and ZvZ is the worst due to the reverse of that.
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Terrasmith
Profile Joined February 2013
47 Posts
May 19 2013 07:39 GMT
#213
On May 19 2013 08:22 GinDo wrote:
ZvP-Mass Air Blob is retarded. Swarm Hosts are also very boring.

TvP- Bio is retarded. Bio should be about Micro and multitasking( Like Bio TvT and TvZ), not straight-up destroying Protoss.

PvP - Once the game hits Macro Mode.


Isn't bio TvP "either you hit the EMPs and your vikings kill the colossi, or you lose"? I had the impression that the Protoss usually wins a straight up fight.
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
May 19 2013 09:49 GMT
#214
PvP is really fun for me to watch... for early game blink stalker micro. Late game is boring.

ZvZ is really fun for me to watch... for early game zergling/baneling micro. Late game is boring.

TvT is by far my favorite (so interesting at every stage of the game!), followed by TvZ.
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
May 19 2013 11:17 GMT
#215
ZvZ easily then PvP for me. ZvZ is... yeah and PvP feels too lucky/cheesey to be enjoyable.
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tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 15:08:42
May 19 2013 15:01 GMT
#216
On May 10 2013 07:49 SwatRaven wrote:
Crap I misread it as the most interesting MU

Like most of us I guess...
On May 11 2013 23:24 nakam wrote:
Very surprised TvZ is third. I find it by far the most entertaining matchup.


On May 13 2013 23:01 Zelniq wrote:
how is tvz 3rd, above a mirror


On May 12 2013 03:27 Vansetsu wrote:
Wow, I am shocked to see TvZ is beating out TvT as more boring of a matchup. Then again, I read the poll wrong and voted for TvZ, thinking it was one of the more exciting matchups........ :3


I guess a lot misread

On May 11 2013 17:18 Gatesleeper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 07:49 SwatRaven wrote:
Crap I misread it as the most interesting MU

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On May 10 2013 08:45 KadaverBB wrote:
Oh I thought the poll said most entertaining, not least.
I guess ZvZ, yes

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On May 10 2013 11:14 Bagi wrote:
I thought it was "most entertaining" and voted TvZ... I think others have made the same mistake.

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On May 10 2013 11:14 Splunge wrote:
lol i thought most entertaining xD voted zvp

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On May 10 2013 14:34 DidYuhim wrote:
oh shit, I didn't read it right...I voted for the most entertaining. Darn.

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On May 10 2013 14:44 SamirDuran wrote:
oh shit i misread the poll and answered TvZ.. lol

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On May 10 2013 16:09 Inkblood wrote:
Damn, I misread the question. (I must be too tired.) For some reason I thought it asked which is the most entertaining match-up.

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On May 10 2013 19:36 yoshi245 wrote:
I accidentally voted TvZ since I misread the least as most. Oops

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On May 10 2013 21:02 Macheji wrote:
Oh noes. I voted tvz ( Tho I am protoss ) as I read " most entertaining" . When i saw the results i started laughing while thinking : " So many trolls".

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On May 11 2013 01:38 Leetley wrote:
Same here...

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On May 11 2013 03:11 Cable wrote:
Me too. I bet half of the people actually voting on this particular poll thought it was the "the most entertaining".

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On May 11 2013 04:43 Ammoth wrote:
Meh, read it wrong and voted for the best matchup

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On May 11 2013 12:08 Emzeeshady wrote:
Me, I thought it said most entertaining TT

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On May 11 2013 16:59 Nagas wrote:
same here..damn it!!! zvz is worst for sure, best zvt for me.



Wow Wax why did you create such a confusing poll? "Least Entertaining"? That is some M.C. Escher drawing, Foucauldian jargon, Borgesian labyrinth shit, man. Why would you put a negative modifier on a positive adjective? Who do you think you're writing for, Linguistics PhD students? Next time just write it in plain fucking english: "WHHAT MATCHUP BAD BAD () WATCH???".


Edit : wow :D Haven't read your comment
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Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
May 19 2013 17:33 GMT
#217
Out of all the non mirrors I'm surprised people least like TvZ. I wonder if that's genuine dislike or if it's Terran's/Zerg's frustrated with actually playing the match up.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
May 19 2013 22:30 GMT
#218
how can so many people get confused. PvP I find the most boring to watch by far
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BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
May 19 2013 23:49 GMT
#219
Damn it I thought it said most entertaining not least...

Reading fail
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Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
May 20 2013 00:12 GMT
#220
poll turned out kinda how i thought it might
iCheeseUcry
Profile Joined February 2012
United States18 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 00:32:07
May 20 2013 00:28 GMT
#221
PVP and ZVZ both suck. not much variations can come from them.

Most entertaining match up has always been TvZ or tvt.
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
May 20 2013 10:45 GMT
#222
On May 19 2013 16:39 Terrasmith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 08:22 GinDo wrote:
ZvP-Mass Air Blob is retarded. Swarm Hosts are also very boring.

TvP- Bio is retarded. Bio should be about Micro and multitasking( Like Bio TvT and TvZ), not straight-up destroying Protoss.

PvP - Once the game hits Macro Mode.


Isn't bio TvP "either you hit the EMPs and your vikings kill the colossi, or you lose"? I had the impression that the Protoss usually wins a straight up fight.


Thats exactly how it is. Whoever thinks the protoss army is at a disadvantage in TvP is off the deep end stupid. A moving it and hitting T to storm will win 10 out of 10 fights.

In comparison T has to manage EMP, viking flanks (Which are risky if the vikings can't kite back into dead space to avoid stalkers), bio splits to nullify splash damage, and also needs to stim throughout the engagement to make bio micro like stuttersteps effective.


It can be beaten, so balance isn't an issue, but it takes a lot more from the Terran than from the Protoss to win those 200 food engagements.
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ypslala
Profile Joined April 2011
Burma545 Posts
May 20 2013 18:01 GMT
#223
not a wonder TvZ is the least entertaining non-mirror. its boring and frustrating to watch and play. due to imbalance especially in early game, and after destroying eco the rest of the game its a uphill fight for zerg.
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
May 21 2013 00:43 GMT
#224
On May 10 2013 07:49 SwatRaven wrote:
Crap I misread it as the most interesting MU

I was trying to troll with PvP, the poll was a step ahead
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hstq
Profile Joined July 2011
Czech Republic26 Posts
May 21 2013 13:15 GMT
#225
ZvZ is really boring to watch but I like playing it ... ZvT is horrible to play, only way to win is just allin early before MMMM slowly kills you.
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Markam
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland71 Posts
May 21 2013 16:09 GMT
#226
It's good that there are so many ZvZ allins so I don't have to play muta vs muta. Same goes for watching.
Missing-No
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada50 Posts
May 21 2013 18:11 GMT
#227
zvz is fun to watch.. I don't understand.

pvz and pvp are the most stale MUs
Aleteh
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark166 Posts
May 21 2013 18:42 GMT
#228
TvT is horrible, fucking hellbat drops everywhere. Its boring to watch, more so than muta vs muta..
The Tyrant
Drumhead
Profile Joined November 2010
24 Posts
May 21 2013 22:16 GMT
#229
when i random unranked i leave everytime i get a zvz lol
Drumhead
Profile Joined November 2010
24 Posts
May 21 2013 22:20 GMT
#230
On May 20 2013 19:45 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 16:39 Terrasmith wrote:
On May 19 2013 08:22 GinDo wrote:
ZvP-Mass Air Blob is retarded. Swarm Hosts are also very boring.

TvP- Bio is retarded. Bio should be about Micro and multitasking( Like Bio TvT and TvZ), not straight-up destroying Protoss.

PvP - Once the game hits Macro Mode.


Isn't bio TvP "either you hit the EMPs and your vikings kill the colossi, or you lose"? I had the impression that the Protoss usually wins a straight up fight.


Thats exactly how it is. Whoever thinks the protoss army is at a disadvantage in TvP is off the deep end stupid. A moving it and hitting T to storm will win 10 out of 10 fights.

In comparison T has to manage EMP, viking flanks (Which are risky if the vikings can't kite back into dead space to avoid stalkers), bio splits to nullify splash damage, and also needs to stim throughout the engagement to make bio micro like stuttersteps effective.


It can be beaten, so balance isn't an issue, but it takes a lot more from the Terran than from the Protoss to win those 200 food engagements.


pvt is the kinda matchup where if neither player can micro at all, protoss should win. But the more terran micros the more protoss has to micro back, if that makes sense at all.
RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
May 21 2013 22:26 GMT
#231
PvP, in both HotS and WoL...
How do u doto?
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 21 2013 23:27 GMT
#232
Based on last nights Code S Ro4 PvZ is pretty bad lol. 6 terrible games and one so bad it was fun to watch.

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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
May 22 2013 10:58 GMT
#233
ZvZ. Just seen too much of it, tbh. PvP is probably worse, but you don't see much of that outside Proleague.
Nakwa
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden93 Posts
May 22 2013 13:45 GMT
#234
According to this poll, Terran is the all round funniest race to watch.
I agree!
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
May 22 2013 15:05 GMT
#235
oh LEAST ^^ i thought most entertaining and voted tvp xD ofc its zvz xD i think with everyone not vote wrong its 90% ^^
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ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
May 22 2013 16:30 GMT
#236
ZvZ by afar, since there is not really anything the player is really deciding except Cheese or not Cheese. In the end it is still the struggle to get Mutalisks out and once you are ahead in Mutas, there are only rare occasions, where you can turn a game once you are behind.
uT)WhistleR
Profile Joined May 2006
Sweden95 Posts
May 22 2013 22:00 GMT
#237
tvp
Grim Hatter
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland52 Posts
May 23 2013 13:27 GMT
#238
ZvZ and PvP.Most fun will be TvT and ZvT.
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
May 23 2013 15:34 GMT
#239
ZvZ and PvP. Best are TvZ, TvT, TvP in that order.
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
May 23 2013 15:44 GMT
#240
On May 10 2013 07:17 Araneae wrote:
I don't get why people hate zvz so much o.O I like it how it is now, both playing and watching, alot more fun than roach infestor vs roach infestor imo



more like Muta vs Muta dude
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plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
May 24 2013 02:51 GMT
#241
The only reason I play Terran, I really can't stand other races' mirror matchup.
kimmaz
Profile Joined May 2013
Norway3 Posts
May 24 2013 07:18 GMT
#242
I think the mirror matches is least fu to watch,, but of the non mirror matches,, well, im not sure. maby of the non mirror matchups the least entertaining to watch would be TvP.
MysterySC
Profile Joined October 2012
Andorra109 Posts
May 24 2013 19:33 GMT
#243
Honestly i still dont like ZvP, so few comebacks or turnarounds, just about blindly picking better composition to fight what the enemy chose
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LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
May 24 2013 20:26 GMT
#244
Haha misread. Thought it was most entertaining
hugoboss
Profile Joined January 2012
11 Posts
May 24 2013 23:19 GMT
#245
yeah zvz win this. I used to enjoy tvz, now I hate it ... probably because nobody use tanks anymore, sad times. Bw tvt used to be amazing long games, and now sc2 tvt long games are boring to me. Its weird, cause tvt changed the less from bw to sc2.

Now, all protoss matchups are fun to watch, even pvp, I enjoy watching psionic shit... yeah I blame kespa and proleague, their protoss players are amazing.
ManicMarine
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia409 Posts
May 25 2013 12:58 GMT
#246
People don't like TvT? It's my favourite MU!
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Nadacambia
Profile Joined May 2012
Netherlands142 Posts
May 25 2013 19:12 GMT
#247
On May 10 2013 10:10 Waxangel wrote:
fuck i forgot people can't read


You forgot to ask the most logical question concerning matchups.
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wizardidit
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States14 Posts
May 25 2013 19:31 GMT
#248
zvp definitely. Same as WOL, except now it takes 45 minutes instead of 30.
Scorah
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States45 Posts
May 25 2013 20:47 GMT
#249
Terran vs. Terran can be excruciating if it lasts upwards of 15 minutes.

Worst match-up to watch.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 25 2013 21:28 GMT
#250
ZvZ by far obviously.
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
May 26 2013 06:58 GMT
#251
On May 10 2013 11:14 Splunge wrote:
lol i thought most entertaining xD voted zvp


LOL me too! i voted TvZ just cuz innovation and flash make this match up fair and exciting.

if i read the question right, it would be ZvZ. -__-
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ArcadeR
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany199 Posts
May 26 2013 09:31 GMT
#252
A shitload of ppl clicked wrong answer cause everyone reads "what matchup blalbalblabla..most entertaining"...I guess^^
Suikakuju
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany238 Posts
May 26 2013 09:57 GMT
#253
GomTvT is by far most boring in my opinnion
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ander
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada403 Posts
May 27 2013 02:07 GMT
#254
TvZ at #3... check yourself TL
ViceroPrime
Profile Joined May 2013
Kyrgyzstan2 Posts
May 27 2013 03:25 GMT
#255
ZvZ cause its all about numbers.
Calexanich
Profile Joined September 2011
United States52 Posts
May 27 2013 04:06 GMT
#256
On May 10 2013 07:17 Araneae wrote:
I don't get why people hate zvz so much o.O I like it how it is now, both playing and watching, alot more fun than roach infestor vs roach infestor imo


yeah roach infestor got traded for muta ling good stuff
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Dijego
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands33 Posts
May 27 2013 09:13 GMT
#257
This poll is pretty much invalid due to all the people who read it wrong. T.T
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liatis
Profile Joined May 2013
11 Posts
May 27 2013 14:59 GMT
#258
Not surprised TvZ is the most boring non-mirror match up. Zerg just can't win at the moment without cheese. Terran just continual hellbat drop which is just too strong for what it costs the terran I think almost the entire non-terran community can agree.
Dapapoose
Profile Joined April 2013
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 02:27:41
May 28 2013 02:25 GMT
#259
On May 10 2013 10:10 Waxangel wrote:
fuck i forgot people can't read

I lol'd XD
I had to vote ZvZ, at least in pvp there is more than 1 opening and transition. I wanna see more ZvZ Hydras.
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Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
May 28 2013 18:49 GMT
#260
I think people misread this as "most" entertaining, clearly ZvZ is the best matchup!
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
May 28 2013 20:51 GMT
#261
TvZ just because it's not BW. I like the other matchups though
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