EPTPower Rank 06/02/2011 - Page 10
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
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jaQi
1121 Posts
On June 13 2011 20:23 Cpadolf wrote: Looks like Jaedong might fall of PR for the first time since... what, august 2007? The month is still young, he can do it. But in case he drops it is the first time since august 2007. | ||
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Goragoth
New Zealand1065 Posts
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On June 13 2011 20:34 jaQi wrote: The month is still young, he can do it. But in case he drops it is the first time since august 2007. He is now on 5 games losing streak... I wonder when was the last time that happened to him. I seriously can't remember. And he dropped below 2200 for the first time in ages. I hope he will bounce back but in his current form he might not fit into PR :O | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On June 13 2011 22:31 Lebesgue wrote: He is now on 5 games losing streak... I wonder when was the last time that happened to him. I seriously can't remember. And he dropped below 2200 for the first time in ages. I hope he will bounce back but in his current form he might not fit into PR :O Never. | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On June 13 2011 14:44 Mortality wrote: Except that Bisu has the highest number of wins in PL and we're nearing the end of the season. That actually IS an accomplishment worth bragging about -- not a paltry few wins racked up on one particular month. There's also his performances from the SWL playoffs and the true fact that Bisu has had bad luck recently in who he faces in tournament play. Not to mention that his actual game play is smoother than anything I've seen in any beer commercial ever. What can Best say? Regarding results... they are ALWAYS to be taken in the context of history. Someone who does well in PL this month AND has done well in past months gets precedent over someone who has nothing to his name. The only way Best can get around that is by proving himself against strong non-Terrans or by somehow playing an extra vital role in his team's performance (but do not anticipate this happening in the shadows of Bisu and Fantasy). Given Best's history, all we can say with any kind of certainty is that he's doing well in his best match. He should be below Bisu, agreed. So you are arguing either: 1) Best has had a bad history, so he needs to do a lot to prove himself and should be ranked low. or 2)He has had a good history, so it isn't that impressive he is beating terrans, so he should be ranked low. What? And I still haven't heard anyone say who should be ahead of him outside of Flash Bisu Hydra. Do you want 4-loss-streak zero in the top 5, or 5-loss-streak JD (the only other people with good recent individual league records)? | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On June 13 2011 23:12 hacklebeast wrote: He should be below Bisu, agreed. So you are arguing either: 1) Best has had a bad history, so he needs to do a lot to prove himself and should be ranked low. or 2)He has had a good history, so it isn't that impressive he is beating terrans, so he should be ranked low. What? And I still haven't heard anyone say who should be ahead of him outside of Flash Bisu Hydra. Do you want 4-loss-streak zero in the top 5, or 5-loss-streak JD (the only other people with good recent individual league records)? Best was good back in like 2008. Over the last half year Best has had a horrible history. In fact, going back farther, he is 43% PvZ and 45% PvP over the past 2 years (35% PvZ over the past year!). Hardly confidence inspiring. Zero might come out ahead of Best depending on how things go. That "4 loss streak" includes a Bo5 in the MSL final, which is hardly comparable to some random group of 3 PL games. Jaedong may actually drop since he looked incredibly shaky already last month and is 0-3 so far this month. | ||
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VGhost
United States3616 Posts
...I thought you were just /fanboy-ing. I had no idea that was actually true. 764 games and this is the first time he's lost 5 in a row. He's only gone on a 4-loss streak like 3 times, too (I wasn't counting exactly). My mind is blown. (And Flash's record is even more ridiculous, even though his worst streak is 6... it's at the very beginning of his career.) | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=647&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=4&from_day=17&to_year=2011&to_month=6&to_day=13&action=Update Bonjwa | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Savior was given the same in his last month of PR. I think Jaedong deserves a final chance. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On June 14 2011 04:05 Lightwip wrote: I'd give Jaedong a #10 spot if it were to be made right now. I think he deserves that little benefit of the doubt for years of good play. Savior was given the same in his last month of PR. I think Jaedong deserves a final chance. it really depends on who else proves to "claim" a PR spot. You dont give a welfare 10th spot unless there really isnt anyother deserving it, (iirc that was also the case with savior?) but otherwise I agree | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On June 14 2011 04:49 Iplaythings wrote: it really depends on who else proves to "claim" a PR spot. You dont give a welfare 10th spot unless there really isnt anyother deserving it, (iirc that was also the case with savior?) but otherwise I agree This + I think people are kind of assuming this slump will continue given how the past couple months have gone, and given how things were looking much earlier in the year. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On June 14 2011 04:05 Lightwip wrote: I'd give Jaedong a #10 spot if it were to be made right now. I think he deserves that little benefit of the doubt for years of good play. Savior was given the same in his last month of PR. I think Jaedong deserves a final chance. He already got the benefit of the doubt last month. If the new PR were to be written today he would not place anywhere on it. Maybe in a shoutout as more of a "get better" (not even a CBNC). Fortunately for him, he's still got a couple weeks to snap out of this slump and show he's worthy of being on the June PR. His mediocre performance since his win over Reality in the MSL caused him to drop from #2 ELO to #9 (and dip under 2200 pts for the first time in ages). The same goes for Stork tbh, who's been having a bad couple months now. Stork dropped on the ELO chart from ~#5-6 to #15, being surpassed by protoss players like Horang2, Movie and Snow, and only 3 ELO points above BeSt and Stats. As of right now neither one is fit for a spot, but one can only hope that these slumps are only temporary. | ||
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champignones
Panama160 Posts
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
On June 14 2011 07:28 champignones wrote: how about putting flash from 1 to ten When he wins the OSL, he'll deserve that | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Already did that. | ||
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
That OSL didn't put him above Nada's record | ||
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champignones
Panama160 Posts
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