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Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
January 15 2011 11:41 GMT
#461
That's true, Flash only beat Bisu once while Bisu beats Bisu all the time.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
January 15 2011 12:23 GMT
#462
On January 15 2011 20:36 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 15:43 johanes wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:31 night terrors wrote:
seriously, bisu has lost to: stork and flash

he's demolished everyone else.

Thats exactly why he should be ranked below them

except flash did nothing more significant than Bisu to be over him

except beating him ^^
In the woods, there lurks..
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
January 15 2011 13:38 GMT
#463
On January 15 2011 21:23 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 20:36 disciple wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:43 johanes wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:31 night terrors wrote:
seriously, bisu has lost to: stork and flash

he's demolished everyone else.

Thats exactly why he should be ranked below them

except flash did nothing more significant than Bisu to be over him

except beating him ^^

Seriously use common sense guys or you gotta place Hyuk higher than Flash cuz Hyuk hyuked Flash and went further in OSL LAST month and PR is based on monthly performance. But lets be real and count win/loss stats and Bisu has more wins than Flash in PL - this PR is solid and correct.
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 15 2011 14:51 GMT
#464
Bisu 2300, awesome.
Also, he's really breaking some serious vZ records, I hope it goes on.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
January 15 2011 15:34 GMT
#465
On January 15 2011 22:38 Hazard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 21:23 Iplaythings wrote:
On January 15 2011 20:36 disciple wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:43 johanes wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:31 night terrors wrote:
seriously, bisu has lost to: stork and flash

he's demolished everyone else.

Thats exactly why he should be ranked below them

except flash did nothing more significant than Bisu to be over him

except beating him ^^

But lets be real and count win/loss stats and Bisu has more wins than Flash in PL

...because he played more games. Flash still has fewer losses, and is undefeated in WL.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 15:41:19
January 15 2011 15:40 GMT
#466
On January 16 2011 00:34 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 22:38 Hazard wrote:
On January 15 2011 21:23 Iplaythings wrote:
On January 15 2011 20:36 disciple wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:43 johanes wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:31 night terrors wrote:
seriously, bisu has lost to: stork and flash

he's demolished everyone else.

Thats exactly why he should be ranked below them

except flash did nothing more significant than Bisu to be over him

except beating him ^^

But lets be real and count win/loss stats and Bisu has more wins than Flash in PL

...because he played more games. Flash still has fewer losses, and is undefeated in WL.

I think that he was just trying to note how irrelevant a single game mid-season is in determining who is better by giving an equally irrelevant fact.
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Bisu should be ranked higher because hair=tiebreaker.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
January 15 2011 17:32 GMT
#467
Right now I think I would rank Flash over Bisu, but it's too soon to definitively make a remark about order.

Stork/Flash/Bisu/JD are basically 80% guaranteed to be the top 4. Order unknown as of yet. Depending on how things go, there's a chance that Fantasy could take one of those spots. Hard to see anyone else breaking the stronghold at the top.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
January 15 2011 17:48 GMT
#468
On January 15 2011 22:38 Hazard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 21:23 Iplaythings wrote:
On January 15 2011 20:36 disciple wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:43 johanes wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:31 night terrors wrote:
seriously, bisu has lost to: stork and flash

he's demolished everyone else.

Thats exactly why he should be ranked below them

except flash did nothing more significant than Bisu to be over him

except beating him ^^

Seriously use common sense guys or you gotta place Hyuk higher than Flash cuz Hyuk hyuked Flash and went further in OSL LAST month and PR is based on monthly performance. But lets be real and count win/loss stats and Bisu has more wins than Flash in PL - this PR is solid and correct.


Or you could use some common sense yourself. Did Hyuk do anything besides 3-0ing his osl group? Why would he deserve anything just for playing 3 games that he knows who to practice for on what map?

Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 15 2011 19:33 GMT
#469
BvZ is officially better than JvZ at the moment (in terms of ELO). That is fucking cool.

Still ain't got nothing on FvZ though.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Mumei
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
January 15 2011 20:11 GMT
#470
It does make me smile seeing Bisu at 2305 Elo now and looking back at this topic from August 2010 writing off his chances of making a comeback based on his 2174 (at the time) Elo.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 15 2011 20:15 GMT
#471
On January 16 2011 05:11 Mumei wrote:
It does make me smile seeing Bisu at 2305 Elo now and looking back at this topic from August 2010 writing off his chances of making a comeback based on his 2174 (at the time) Elo.

I was going to wait until Bisu won a SL/peaked again before mentioning that topic.
But yeah, maybe it's worth mentioning.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 15 2011 20:27 GMT
#472
I posted this in one of the Bisu slump threads (''The future of Beesuit''):

''I don't think he'll catch up to Jaedong and Flash ever again. He can still be one of the best Tosses and a player worthy of a place on the PR and stuff, but I doubt he'll win another Starleague.''

I still stand by that, I think.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 15 2011 20:58 GMT
#473
In a way, he already has. Flash #1 JD #2 isn't as set in stone as it used to be, and part of the reason for that is the resurgence of Bisu and Stork.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 21:43:28
January 15 2011 20:59 GMT
#474
On January 16 2011 05:27 Holgerius wrote:
I posted this in one of the Bisu slump threads (''The future of Beesuit''):

''I don't think he'll catch up to Jaedong and Flash ever again. He can still be one of the best Tosses and a player worthy of a place on the PR and stuff, but I doubt he'll win another Starleague.''

I still stand by that, I think.


Why? is there a reason why for you to think that? He seems like he can take on anything but Flash and Stork right now. If flash and stork were both knock out in the early stages of the leagues, he could get far and probably won one.
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
January 15 2011 23:45 GMT
#475
On January 16 2011 05:59 Monkeyshark wrote:
Why? is there a reason why for you to think that? He seems like he can take on anything but Flash and Stork right now. If flash and stork were both knock out in the early stages of the leagues, he could get far and probably won one.

About two month ago Bisu won 2-1 against Stork in China and they always play close series if not by score than by games.
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
January 16 2011 00:37 GMT
#476
On January 16 2011 08:45 Hazard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 05:59 Monkeyshark wrote:
Why? is there a reason why for you to think that? He seems like he can take on anything but Flash and Stork right now. If flash and stork were both knock out in the early stages of the leagues, he could get far and probably won one.

About two month ago Bisu won 2-1 against Stork in China and they always play close series if not by score than by games.


2 months or 2 years? I didn't know they played in China 2 months ago.
Tempest[OEC]
Profile Joined February 2010
United States417 Posts
January 16 2011 00:45 GMT
#477
On January 16 2011 09:37 Monkeyshark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 08:45 Hazard wrote:
On January 16 2011 05:59 Monkeyshark wrote:
Why? is there a reason why for you to think that? He seems like he can take on anything but Flash and Stork right now. If flash and stork were both knock out in the early stages of the leagues, he could get far and probably won one.

About two month ago Bisu won 2-1 against Stork in China and they always play close series if not by score than by games.


2 months or 2 years? I didn't know they played in China 2 months ago.

It was at IEF 2010.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
January 16 2011 01:44 GMT
#478
I don't disagree about Bisu's ability to beat Stork but IEF should not be used as an indicator... especially IEF 2010...that one was like Stork and Bisu (Bork) going to China on a honeymoon and playing one or two games on some old school maps in their free time =S.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
January 16 2011 01:52 GMT
#479
On January 16 2011 10:44 ShadeR wrote:
I don't disagree about Bisu's ability to beat Stork but IEF should not be used as an indicator... especially IEF 2010...that one was like Stork and Bisu (Bork) going to China on a honeymoon and playing one or two games on some old school maps in their free time =S.


Hey I just realized that EVERYTIME Stork and Bisu go on a trip together, they ALWAYS come back stronger!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
vishrut
Profile Joined April 2009
United States567 Posts
January 16 2011 02:33 GMT
#480
On January 16 2011 10:52 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 10:44 ShadeR wrote:
I don't disagree about Bisu's ability to beat Stork but IEF should not be used as an indicator... especially IEF 2010...that one was like Stork and Bisu (Bork) going to China on a honeymoon and playing one or two games on some old school maps in their free time =S.


Hey I just realized that EVERYTIME Stork and Bisu go on a trip together, they ALWAYS come back stronger!

they must be teaching each other. if only bisu had taken stork with him on that thailand trip
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