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Power Rank 04/04/2010 - Page 23
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Ozarugold
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 23 2010 23:11 TwoToneTerran wrote: He lost to Stork last month. On April 23 2010 21:17 Ozarugold wrote: I didn't know where to put this but I was looking over Jaedong's ZvP and the last time he lost to a Protoss that wasn't Stork was Movie back in June 18th. Rofl~ Btw, Flash new ELO record. XD | ||
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L0thar
987 Posts
Yeah, those were the times... + Show Spoiler + Go Flash!  | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 23 2010 23:42 Holgerius wrote: Does anyone else feel that Flash is ruining the enjoyment of watching BW with other players? After watching a game with Flash's perfection in it, I notice so many mistakes and so much bad play in everyone else's games. All I keep thinking when I watch any other player (especially Terran players) is ''Ugh, Flash would've done that so much better''. It's getting pretty annoying. >_< He's spoiling me so that I cannot fully appreciate the entertainment factor in games with players of average skill. No I don't feel that way at all. And Flash doesn't play perfect either. I think it's only you. :p | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Fumi
529 Posts
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On April 23 2010 20:18 Samurai- wrote: Strange logic, if u outplay and outmultitask someone, you win. Baby lost, and i didnt look like he outplayed flash at all, it was a much closer game, which is expected from people at this level, specialy OSL. Flash also had MSL yesterday, and his team plays tomorrow, so winning here is still ownage that only Flash can handle. He was very far behind when he lost his base early on and also lost every position on the map. Then he fought his way back into the game even though it was not enough in the end. Nevertheless it seemed to me that Baby had much better unit control and multitasking in the midgame and lategame. I was very impressed by BaBys performance, especially because for the last million games I never felt that anyone could straight up take on Flash, they would either need a buildorder advantage (Midas, M18M), hidden bases (Stork, Hyun) or superior strategical choices (hyvaa). I wouldn't be surprised if BaBy goes 2-1 against both Movie and MvP unless his confidence is shaken. My vote for 2nd place still goes to JD though, I think he plays much better than people give him credit for. On April 23 2010 23:42 Holgerius wrote: Does anyone else feel that Flash is ruining the enjoyment of watching BW with other players? After watching a game with Flash's perfection in it, I notice so many mistakes and so much bad play in everyone else's games. All I keep thinking when I watch any other player (especially Terran players) is ''Ugh, Flash would've done that so much better''. It's getting pretty annoying. >_< He's spoiling me so that I cannot fully appreciate the entertainment factor in games with players of average skill. No, not at all. That would be like saying Maradona makes soccer boring, Michael Jordan makes basketball boring or Roger Federer makes Tennis boring. It also takes away the feeling that you watch a buildorder lottery and watch a game about skill instead. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 24 2010 02:47 Fenrax wrote: He was very far behind when he lost his base early on and also lost every position on the map. Then he fought his way back into the game even though it was not enough in the end. Nevertheless it seemed to me that Baby had much better unit control and multitasking in the midgame and lategame. He played well, but I disagree that he had better unitcontrol/multitasking than flash. What kept him in the game so long was some lucky mines really... | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 24 2010 02:47 Fenrax wrote: He was very far behind when he lost his base early on and also lost every position on the map. Then he fought his way back into the game even though it was not enough in the end. Nevertheless it seemed to me that Baby had much better unit control and multitasking in the midgame and lategame. I was very impressed by BaBys performance, especially because for the last million games I never felt that anyone could straight up take on Flash, they would either need a buildorder advantage (Midas, M18M), hidden bases (Stork, Hyun) or superior strategical choices (hyvaa). I wouldn't be surprised if BaBy goes 2-1 against both Movie and MvP unless his confidence is shaken. My vote for 2nd place still goes to JD though, I think he plays much better than people give him credit for. No, not at all. That would be like saying Maradona makes soccer boring, Michael Jordan makes basketball boring or Roger Federer makes Tennis boring. It also takes away the feeling that you watch a buildorder lottery and watch a game about skill instead. Well, to be honest that is actually how it is for me; I don't get much enjoyment out of watching the swedish football league when I have recently watched Messi and Barcelona. It can be very entertaining in it's own right, a game of football on any level can be given the right conditions, but with the spectacle of the world's absolutely best (TOTTI!) fresh in mind it bores the fuck out of me to watch those who cannot play on nearly the same level. Who wants to see a (relatively speaking) noob get 50% of his passes wrong (and all of passes that reaches the intended target does so in knee's hight and is controlled in a less than satisfactory way) when you can watch Xavi with his surgical precision? These days I mostly tune in to games with the big teams of the big leagues. When I watch Light get crushed by Stork's Carriers all that enters my mind is images of Flash destroying 5 bases within the span of a couple of minutes in a pre-carrier push vs Kal just days before. I automatically compare everything I see to The Ultimate Weapon, and everything seems bleach when I do so. Flash is so far ahead of everyone in terms of micro (vs Soulkeys Lurkers, holy fuck!), macro, game sense, timing and (especially) decision making (really) that it's not even funny. While his games aren't literally perfect (that would include stuff like each and every marine beng microed individually (would love to see what Data from Star Trek could accomplish playing SC  )), they most certainly strike me as being exactly that compared to the other players. There are virtually no moments when you go ''That's fucking retarded'' when Flash plays (other than thinking so about the opponent). I can point out a ton of such moments recently with Sea, Light, Baby, Jaedong or basically anyone not Flash. The 10 game winning streak that he's on is seemingly effortless, he just coasts along and wins his games due to being a sooo much smarter and better than his foe. He said that he didn't prepare much for TvP for the ace match vs Free (who's fucking good now, and probably prepared a lot), but it didn't matter - he just rolled him completely anyways. Flash is polluting the entertainment value of BW for me. I have a hard time finding joy or satisfaction when watching Great vs Fantasy (or similar) because they fail so hard in comparison the how The Special One would play. Some of the other top players can churn out awesome games enough to makes me intruiged in 50% of the games they play, but it's still far from how I felt a year ago. This is the way I see it. But I should not complain, I'm a Flash-fan. Go get the Golden Mouse already! | ||
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Beachac
United States278 Posts
On April 24 2010 05:15 StylishVODs wrote: He played well, but I disagree that he had better unitcontrol/multitasking than flash. What kept him in the game so long was some lucky mines really... exactly; baby played good, but the mines ultimately made the game drag out longer to what would surely have been a much quicker victory for flash. | ||
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okum
France5779 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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okum
France5779 Posts
On April 24 2010 16:00 TwoToneTerran wrote: Jaedong beating Hite isn't pulling his shit together. Jaedong could lose both his arms in a tragic tectonic dancing accident and still beat hite. There's also his MSL ro16 performance. Which wasn't dominating, but showed that he has the determination. Today we saw Jaedong the merciless terran slayer again. If he only gets to play a few protosses for a change, I'm sure he'll prove beyond doubt that he's the current #2 player. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 24 2010 16:00 TwoToneTerran wrote: Jaedong beating Hite isn't pulling his shit together. Jaedong could lose both his arms in a tragic tectonic dancing accident and still beat hite. Yep. Jaedong beating Hite (terrans or not) is as sure as Flash all-killing ACE. It isn't by any means impressive, but it still two wins. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
I'd say Baby still deserves #2 if he takes down MVP later. If not then by all means toss Jaedong in there, because despite playing really well against Flash, he obviously isn't making it to the Ro4 in OSL either. | ||
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okum
France5779 Posts
On April 24 2010 16:09 TwoToneTerran wrote: You forgot: playing against any protoss (except Stork).I'm just saying, there's two things that makes Jaedong nearly unbeatable. One is being in a Bo5, the other is playing against someone on Hite. Other than that he's still losing to Ruby. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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