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onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
March 03 2010 23:22 GMT
#101
I think the armour is what screws up roaches. If they had 1 instead of 2 armor, zerglings would do quite a bit more damage, and possibly be viable. But it probably wouldn't change the other matchups that much, but plain marines would fair a bit better too.

But then again, if zerglings become too viable zvz will descend back into what it was in brood war with early lings followed by muta.

I don't know what the solution is short of some sort of queen ability to discourage early attacks.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2898 Posts
March 04 2010 01:07 GMT
#102
VOID RAY
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
March 04 2010 01:58 GMT
#103
how can people say the colossus is over powered in PvZ, havent people heard of the infestor? you get a couple of infestors take over their colossus and gg protoss army
JD, need I say more? :D
iNkA
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States206 Posts
March 04 2010 03:47 GMT
#104
infestors by far most OP
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-04 05:06:22
March 04 2010 05:05 GMT
#105
wtf? Roaches are only OP in ZvZ, In every other matchup they are easily countered. They basically suck in ZvT except versus hellions. ZvP they pretty much get owned by anything that isn't a zealot. Immortals are where the real imba is.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 04 2010 08:17 GMT
#106
On March 04 2010 10:58 Limenade wrote:
how can people say the colossus is over powered in PvZ, havent people heard of the infestor? you get a couple of infestors take over their colossus and gg protoss army

Lol you hear your self colossus isn't over powered just mind control it and toss auto looses. lol that's what i would call over power where the whole basis of power comes from 1 unit. Zeesh their splash 2 3 of them just melt everything is every match up it's amazing people even want to go anything like carriers.
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
March 04 2010 10:03 GMT
#107
On March 02 2010 12:19 nitram wrote:
Wheres the "fuck you, I don't have sc2" option? :[

Yup I feel we were left out.
Forever Vulture.. :(
iliera
Profile Joined January 2010
Estonia78 Posts
March 04 2010 11:50 GMT
#108
mutalisks are so op in ZvP...
roaches aren't so good at all in either ZvT or ZvP
Nilsi123
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway28 Posts
March 04 2010 16:47 GMT
#109
arnt the phoenix + stalkers good enough counter? against mutas?
brocoli
Profile Joined February 2010
Brazil264 Posts
March 04 2010 19:01 GMT
#110
Infestors, Ravens, Medivacs, "There is no OP unit" and SCVs are missing from the poll.

I'd vote SCV, because they are cheap, can make Thors, Tanks, Vikings, etc, etc... invincible, make bunkers, turrets, sensor towers, one-sided labirynths and walls, bases, invincible forteresses they can take shelter inside, and can even hit a grounded unit with an anti-air Turret.

Not even roaches are that much OP.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
March 04 2010 20:39 GMT
#111
hahaha yeah, a unit is overpowered in the freaking MIRROR

morons...
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
March 04 2010 21:08 GMT
#112
I actually avoid roaches in every MU as I'd rather use the gas to get to useful units, if you play right you can get enough speedlings to overtake roach numbers and I usually get a +1 attack for the speedlings. Mauraders, a T1.5 Unit shredding my ultras as if they cost 50minerals...thats imba
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 04 2010 22:29 GMT
#113
On March 05 2010 05:39 Fenrax wrote:
hahaha yeah, a unit is overpowered in the freaking MIRROR

morons...

overpowered doesn't mean it's not fair

it is overpowered in zvz it dominates zvz builds because it's just too dam good to pass up but both zerg players can do it doesn't mean it's not over powered.
Feefee
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada556 Posts
March 05 2010 01:57 GMT
#114
I voted immortal^^ Not because I actually think it's overpowerd as much as I think it's not needed for toss to hold its own. Statement made largely in ignorance since I understand immortals counter roaches currently, but at least from a PvT perspective: Siege tanks are already non-viable before you add immortals into the mix. With immortals, siege tanks become just stupid.. Maybe they can be microed to push them back into the realm of mildly useful but I haven't seen it happen yet. When protoss can just a-move into a terran army protected by 10 sieged up tanks something feels wrong. Maybe it's attachment on my part to the way I want the siege tank to function ala SC1^^
Tamerlane
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada424 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 04:46:47
March 05 2010 04:46 GMT
#115
On March 02 2010 07:19 raga4ka wrote:
My vote goes to immortals . The name speaks for itself .

The Terrans need some Spartan warrior unit to deal with the immortals!

On March 02 2010 09:15 SearingShadow wrote:
I'm surprised Roach is so high. I find them terrible in all match ups except ZvZ.

I don't have any experience of 1v1 with zerg, but all my losses (=2 in 17 games) in 2v2 as a zerg were against Z+X where the opponent Z massed roaches...

There was even that T/P team which we played 4 times in a row, using the same strategy eveytime and despite being able to fare better and better against us (dual zergs), they have been close to winning only one of those games (with mass marines and Colossus and on Twilight Fortress), one of these two players is #2 on his 1v1 platinum ladder, so not a newbie...
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 05 2010 04:53 GMT
#116
I like this poll even though I disagree with the masses' choice.

I hope to see more sc2 related polls in the future (no more TSL or Korean ones until beta is over!)
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
March 05 2010 08:19 GMT
#117
I'd say Colossus, just because they make the protoss army more like the SC1 Terran's army of 'ol tanks. =(
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
March 05 2010 09:26 GMT
#118
I feel the roach is most overpowered because of how much health it has, it's low cost and food for a tier 1.5 unit, and the damage it does. Although it does move slow and it's attack range is small but that doesn't balance the fact that it has the other buffs. I know a lot of people are complaining about Mutalisks in PvZ, but instead of nerfing Mutalisks they could just give P a better way of dealing with them.
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
Koffiegast
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands346 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 14:05:41
March 05 2010 14:03 GMT
#119
Roach is so not overpowered. Only when you are P and you mass zealots only.
I rather think that roaches need a buff because:
- Any decent player will notice burrowed moving roaches (turrets, detection, etc).
- Their range is mediocre or rather poor. They are slow and require an upgrade to have any speed.
- Even mass lings can kill roaches easily because they dont shoot fast and lings can contain them easily.
- Later in the game, any other unit is basically better than roach.

And mutalisk OP in ZvP?
Have you ever tried making sentries? Mutalisks are only viable when you have a group of 7+ in most matchups.
Wut
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
March 05 2010 15:18 GMT
#120
apparently zealot owned all these units by winning the patch nerf lol
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
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