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Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-14 23:14:13
February 14 2004 23:12 GMT
#1
To my faithful teamliquidians i hereby wish to apologize for recreating the poll, but i had to remove that evil imposter Anon!
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
iNtOXiCaTeD
Profile Joined November 2003
19 Posts
February 14 2004 23:16 GMT
#2
fishy the only one standing the high level in korea !
roCh
Profile Joined October 2002
Sweden870 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-14 23:17:39
February 14 2004 23:17 GMT
#3
a nice nice =)
roCh - pronouced rock - comes in all sizes
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-15 09:59:02
February 14 2004 23:17 GMT
#4
misread poll@
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
Senff
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States360 Posts
February 14 2004 23:19 GMT
#5
Blackman the next professional Protoss player? That's a silly thing to say, unless the poll before was something completely different when you replied to this.
Jesus: The Other White Moses
Shmi
Profile Joined May 2003
Sweden139 Posts
February 14 2004 23:43 GMT
#6
Not saft, for sure.
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
February 14 2004 23:45 GMT
#7
On February 15 2004 08:19 Senff wrote:
Blackman the next professional Protoss player? That's a silly thing to say, unless the poll before was something completely different when you replied to this.

Nope BM was a Protoss player good Protoss player
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
mystror
Profile Joined February 2004
Germany8 Posts
February 15 2004 00:19 GMT
#8
saft best swedish player ever ?
ZoXXeR
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden197 Posts
February 15 2004 00:30 GMT
#9
willet got a request to go pro some time ago but he turned it down... i think he would be able to do good there, just like fisheye and maybe mondragon
kerz
Profile Joined November 2003
United States35 Posts
February 15 2004 00:35 GMT
#10
KIER is a zerg user anyways.. if this is a protoss pole y is he on it?
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
February 15 2004 00:38 GMT
#11
I think Fisheye would be the best choice. He plays always so good when it matters and has so much expirience. Winning Important games is his best ability :D
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
February 15 2004 00:59 GMT
#12
yeah keir is zerg....
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
February 15 2004 01:17 GMT
#13
I voted Draco. Probably not the best of them overall but the best pvz player in my opinion, and I think pvz is what would matter the most.
Nr.1-poGDI
Profile Joined October 2002
Sweden50 Posts
February 15 2004 01:27 GMT
#14
willet!
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
February 15 2004 01:34 GMT
#15
On February 15 2004 09:19 mystror wrote:
saft best swedish player ever ?


then sweden must have really crappy protoss players ~

This saft guy played so bad in wcg,hahahhahaha
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
February 15 2004 01:56 GMT
#16
No offense, but all gamers except Fisheye on this list have never made any accomplishments. Or lets say, they never really won big tournaments, or made much money with this game.

But i think Fisheye was offered a pro gaming team in korea many times, but he didnt want to. Maybe he knows, it's to hard to stand a chance in Korea ? Or he has other future plans.


I think Fisheye will not win this vote, because most people on team liquid are chobos and dont know about skill levels of good gamers ~_~v

PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
February 15 2004 02:30 GMT
#17
Rekrul for president
JuDaS
Profile Joined September 2003
Spain143 Posts
February 15 2004 03:07 GMT
#18
I'd bet for Zelotito
looking for my password
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
February 15 2004 03:28 GMT
#19
Sys, he reminds me of Nal_ra
The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
Malmis
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Sweden1569 Posts
February 15 2004 03:54 GMT
#20
On February 15 2004 09:59 BigBalls wrote:
yeah keir is zerg....

Keir is random user now
To Suport@Bethsoft.com: okay so i completed morrowind.. um, can i have my life back now?
Liquid`RaSZi
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2766 Posts
February 15 2004 04:20 GMT
#21
willy! he beats a lot of pro's !
Fire and blood
uiCk
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1925 Posts
February 15 2004 04:22 GMT
#22
sYs fo sho
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
February 15 2004 05:46 GMT
#23
On February 15 2004 10:34 ky[Z] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2004 09:19 mystror wrote:
saft best swedish player ever ?


then sweden must have really crappy protoss players ~

This saft guy played so bad in wcg,hahahhahaha


Before war3 was released, Saft and sven were the only one to have a 90% ratio on wgtour during several seasons when all the top european players were there.
He did bad in wcg but he was qualified in what was the toughest tournament behind Korea, and without using protoss at each game.
NegativeZero
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada45 Posts
February 15 2004 06:23 GMT
#24
Smuft
I Eat Ded Ppl
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
February 15 2004 06:24 GMT
#25
BoxeR.

-Mynock
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 15 2004 06:49 GMT
#26
Hey o_O For people saying saft is bad etc. He has hardly played for the last year, like only poker user --~ And the wcg swe quality was pretty low btw t.t Could have been a lot higher :O

Anyways, keir plays P and Z
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
HorsementalitY
Profile Joined August 2003
United States1159 Posts
February 15 2004 07:20 GMT
#27
i've heard of most of them cept the kier guy...and hes from chile? nice to see another south american player producin another good player other than HG. anyways what has keir done yet?? ie - who has he beaten??? is he in wgtour??
Women, Pot, Futbol and Music
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
February 15 2004 08:12 GMT
#28
fisheye i gotta agree is a great player. i luv sys's style though. whoever, i think many of the european players either wont go to korea or will be happy plaaying their guts out in wgt... as people said, fisheye rejected a pro position in korea and willet too, and they are the best in that bunch in my mind.
A firebat to your Zergling.
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
February 15 2004 09:12 GMT
#29
Well thats pretty stupid to put up saft, considering him not playing anymore...
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
February 15 2004 09:57 GMT
#30
oh i thought this was for any race, i just now noticed everyone on that list was toss rofl
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
February 15 2004 09:58 GMT
#31
but since its ONLY toss i think zelotito is IN right now...but sYs is also really damn good.
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
February 15 2004 10:28 GMT
#32
I would like Fisheye to go. Then everybody will see how much he sucks. Saft is probably the only one with a decent chance considering he was very good and therefore has some talent.
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
February 15 2004 13:05 GMT
#33
WiLLEt!

and Saft stopped playing BW before WCG SWE, I heard. But then he just came back and owned the crap out of other swedes. Natural talent, no?
-.-
no1important
Profile Joined December 2002
557 Posts
February 15 2004 17:43 GMT
#34
PJ for PvT...altho maybe not for PvZ
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic931 Posts
February 15 2004 18:48 GMT
#35
Fisheye dont play BW any more he switched to W3, Keir is noob especially with Protoss, sYs retired because of school, Saft or Draco arent playing as well.
gg no re thX
never too old for starcraft :)
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
February 15 2004 19:21 GMT
#36
On February 15 2004 19:28 Jim wrote:
I would like Fisheye to go. Then everybody will see how much he sucks. Saft is probably the only one with a decent chance considering he was very good and therefore has some talent.


You are one of the most stupid persons i know. Winning 2 times against Grrrr.. in a important tournament, winning vs elky all says nothing, right ?

You really have no clue how good Fisheye is at tournaments. You think you know his skills by watching replays of him or playing him on wgtour or wdtour ?

What are i am talking.. Every good gamer knows how good FIsheye is/was.
But it's pretty ovisious, you are no good gamer.

SO its not your fault, that u dont know how good gamers are and no offense but compared to Saft, Fisheye won so much more and played so much better in important Tournaments. But Some people will never understand, that this is it what counts. Or do you think Elky shames because he lost twice to Mondragon in a nation war ? I think he doesnt care. He is happy about his games in korea and is doing pretty good for an non korean when it counts.

Tell me what has Saft won ? Tell me ? And dont come with games vs boxer or other good players. Nearly every top european player had games vs big names on west or gamei and won some of them..
Liquid`Daaman
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1225 Posts
February 15 2004 20:53 GMT
#37
Saft has the best potential of these gamers from what I could tell. When he was playing alot.. so good!

Apparently none of you talking bad about Saft never played him.. :\
Comfortably Numb
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
February 15 2004 22:03 GMT
#38
saft was incredible when he played... but he's been inactive quite long just came back for wcg and beat everyone in swe qualifications ^^
aka StormtoSS
Zoom
Profile Joined January 2004
1111 Posts
February 15 2004 23:26 GMT
#39
i just got done watching a recent willet vs xellos replay, either xellos wasnt trying or willet was owning, pretty sure it was the first one but willet convinced me he was at a very high skill level
There's no producing this perfect pose, hit the streets in the freshest clothes. Rip the stage, and bless the shows. Spit the flows and hit the do'
DooMeR
Profile Joined July 2003
United States1519 Posts
February 16 2004 00:26 GMT
#40
wtf keir isn't a protoss player.. he just plays pvt -_-;
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
February 16 2004 01:49 GMT
#41
Always irritating to se the endless flaming about who is good or not.
Ohwell, if SaFT goes to korea he can at least make some money beating the other guys at poker. I might add that I have only heard that he is a good poker player and havent seen much proof. That goes to all BW/poker players.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
B.GoD_AnGRY
Profile Joined January 2003
Chile334 Posts
February 16 2004 02:57 GMT
#42
fisheye
MonkeyFace
Profile Joined February 2004
Finland12 Posts
February 16 2004 03:26 GMT
#43
pokerwillie^^
m00n niinq pr0
NewbieMcNasty
Profile Joined December 2002
United States328 Posts
February 16 2004 04:21 GMT
#44
Rekrul

I also wish NTT followed through with his return to BW as a toss player.
yep
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
February 16 2004 07:00 GMT
#45
SMUFT !!!

and

SAFT !!!
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
VerSerK
Profile Joined August 2003
Argentina326 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-16 07:29:11
February 16 2004 07:26 GMT
#46
I dunno what is keir doing here, he's a very chobo player with z and lot more with p, i dont understand what is he doing here, only for his performance in wcg ?, i think a lot of u have a wrong conception of who is good or chobo in the game, saft was and amazing player, Fisheye (i dont like him) but he games pretty good also, not at the lvl of saft at his best moment, but is amazing too, i cant belive that 80 ppl vote for keir, and only 50 for sys, its amazing, or even zelotito, willet i truly havent seen more than 1 or 2 reps of him, so i cant give my opinion about him.


EDIT: If i have to choose a non protoss player, or a player i will choose without doubt Blackman, he is the european who deserve more to go pro in korea, if not the onlyone)
To much GosunesS
BinGBonG[gamei]
Profile Joined May 2003
Netherlands514 Posts
February 16 2004 17:38 GMT
#47
make a pol whit gamers who stil play bw? T.T
Smoke weed everyday ~-_-~
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
February 16 2004 20:35 GMT
#48
In the end success matters, and expirience. Fisheye has the most of all european gamers. Except Elky.

And if u think Saft is better, u even may be right. But could he do as good as Fisheye in important tournaments ?
DarkFenix
Profile Joined July 2003
217 Posts
February 16 2004 23:57 GMT
#49
Smuft?
SW)Sleep
Profile Joined February 2004
3 Posts
February 17 2004 02:13 GMT
#50
well it doesnt specify nonkorean so id say DaezanG[GnH]
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-17 09:57:24
February 17 2004 09:56 GMT
#51
Smuft and nazgul were ruled out as they have already been there before.

PJ wasn't in as his not pure P (i fucked up with kier and i thought he was toss)

On February 17 2004 11:13 SW)Sleep wrote:
well it doesnt specify nonkorean so id say DaezanG[GnH]

it doesn't specify you have a small brain, but theres just some things ppl take for granted.
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
February 17 2004 11:57 GMT
#52
On February 17 2004 18:56 Legionnaire wrote:
Smuft and nazgul were ruled out as they have already been there before.



ok in that case........

SAFT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

my 2 cents are on him beating the s**t out of anyone who dares stand in his way to SOUTH KOREA !!!!!!!!!!
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
eStoniaNBoY
Profile Joined December 2002
Switzerland439 Posts
February 18 2004 18:40 GMT
#53
ZeloTITO.
val0s
Profile Joined August 2003
Germany13 Posts
February 19 2004 01:38 GMT
#54
fisheye of course
Sullyesztomester
Profile Joined November 2003
Hungary30 Posts
February 19 2004 08:31 GMT
#55
Fisheye imo.He had a silver medal on the latest WCG.
MaGnIfIcA
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway2312 Posts
February 19 2004 15:06 GMT
#56
If saft gets back to the game he will beat the shit out of anyone
Wannabe sMB member yo, so spankable-.-v;;
Countdown
Profile Joined February 2004
1217 Posts
February 20 2004 02:37 GMT
#57
Willet definitely. I think Xellos would agree
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
February 20 2004 02:49 GMT
#58
Countdown is stupid. I think everyone would agree
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 20 2004 23:14 GMT
#59
On February 16 2004 04:21 IntoTheClan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2004 19:28 Jim wrote:
I would like Fisheye to go. Then everybody will see how much he sucks. Saft is probably the only one with a decent chance considering he was very good and therefore has some talent.


You are one of the most stupid persons i know. Winning 2 times against Grrrr.. in a important tournament, winning vs elky all says nothing, right ?

You really have no clue how good Fisheye is at tournaments. You think you know his skills by watching replays of him or playing him on wgtour or wdtour ?

What are i am talking.. Every good gamer knows how good FIsheye is/was.
But it's pretty ovisious, you are no good gamer.

SO its not your fault, that u dont know how good gamers are and no offense but compared to Saft, Fisheye won so much more and played so much better in important Tournaments. But Some people will never understand, that this is it what counts. Or do you think Elky shames because he lost twice to Mondragon in a nation war ? I think he doesnt care. He is happy about his games in korea and is doing pretty good for an non korean when it counts.

Tell me what has Saft won ? Tell me ? And dont come with games vs boxer or other good players. Nearly every top european player had games vs big names on west or gamei and won some of them..


Hm he beat kimwanchul in game-q at least o_O
And since he was in game-q, that is an accomplishment! Not saying fisheye isn't rather good, just mentioning this ~__~
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
February 21 2004 02:32 GMT
#60
But fisheye succeded more..
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic931 Posts
February 21 2004 19:52 GMT
#61
Fisheye dont play bw any more and dont even want, how many times u want to repeat it. He is W3 only now...
never too old for starcraft :)
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
February 22 2004 01:09 GMT
#62
ZelotITO =] Just look how he won WGT Top 16 ;] He is getting better and better =] And polish players like Draco and sYs dont want to be Pro. They want normally go to work somewhere after school =]
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
AsHRaK
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland250 Posts
February 22 2004 06:50 GMT
#63
Fish/sYs imho
come play my game.
vAkOs
Profile Joined February 2004
Poland1 Post
February 22 2004 15:18 GMT
#64
sYs ^^;
No one is perfect
-tOSs-
Profile Joined May 2003
Poland1 Post
February 23 2004 00:58 GMT
#65
GO GO sYs
ChOGoSu
Profile Joined November 2003
Macedonia31 Posts
February 24 2004 09:47 GMT
#66
Every single player has a period of domination !!! It all depends on the shape they are in!!!!
You have been given a brain USE IT!!!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 25 2004 00:32 GMT
#67
On February 17 2004 11:13 SW)Sleep wrote:
well it doesnt specify nonkorean so id say DaezanG[GnH]

Daezang would be pro if it wasn't for some personal stuff
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
GoDHovZ
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1869 Posts
February 28 2004 15:10 GMT
#68
--- Nuked ---
My skill trancends BW, it is recognized by the billions..... AND BILLIONS of people around the world as nirvana
ZyPhReX
Profile Joined January 2003
1192 Posts
February 28 2004 23:34 GMT
#69
O_o
Ghost Me
AnOther
Profile Joined April 2004
565 Posts
June 03 2004 02:09 GMT
#70
Some Guy named Dan(rekrul)
LegendzS
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada68 Posts
February 13 2007 01:21 GMT
#71
why is draco the only progamer atm but the bottom in this list? its only 2 years ago?

i dont understand close post back up if i fucked up by being curious lol sorry ahead of time as well.

(and skill level is higher in korea only, because its televised and the commentators are very gosu as they explain detail for detail as to why things are the way they are.. etc.. what each player shoud be doing etc.. why he should.. etc.. thats why its higher there.
good day, new year, see ya later.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
March 22 2007 23:46 GMT
#72
WiLLEt was the most fitting... but he quit so..
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