EPTPower Rank 01/31/2010 - Page 18
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nimoraca
Serbia84 Posts
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ComradeDover
Bulgaria758 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
If Jaedong had won his OSL games versus Flash, he would've been in two finals. I strongly suspect, that he would've won the OSL and lost the MSL to Flash under these circumstances. I'd also guess that none of you would be here arguing that Flash deserves the #1. | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
On February 06 2010 04:11 Klive5ive wrote: There is a pretty simple argument to make. Flash was in the OSL final thanks to good wins in PREVIOUS months. THIS month Jaedong has a better win % and beat Flash in a Bo5. Now you can argue that Flash still played at a higher overall level (I don't agree) but still you can't deny the validity of the argument as simply "fanboy". You're being foolish if you think that good play from a previous month shouldn't influence who is hot this month. A power rank that is only who plays best for 1 month at a time is worthless. No gamer plays enough games in a single month for you to draw any statistical conclusions (people get lucky sometimes). A power rank that considers only who historically is the best ever is worthless too. The real key is some sort of blend, particularly for the high ranking positions. Myself I think that it should be loosely weighted something like this 55% this month, 35% last month, 10% 2 months ago. Don't just dismiss me as a Flash fan here, I stick to my viewpoint. Look back at the October* PR, I argued that after Flash's 10-0 October he should be ranked below Jaedong because JD won the last 2 OSLs. *Edit, It was October, I was discussing what the rankings would be for November | ||
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InFdude
Bulgaria619 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On February 06 2010 17:12 InFdude wrote: Oh yeah ? In previous months Jaedong has 5 SL titles .How much does Flash have ? Imo the rank is OK Flash did win in WL (which in fact was more Jaedong loosing in WL ) so let him be first . But quit brining back old stuf. There's so much wrong with your post, but I'll ignore the spelling. Jaedong won his 5 SL titles over three years (I guess you could count it in months, but nobody does that when you can do it in years). He's three years older than Flash, but debuted only a year earlier. Jaedong won his first SL at age 17. Flash at 17, already has two to his name. | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On February 06 2010 18:09 J1.au wrote: There's so much wrong with your post, but I'll ignore the spelling. Jaedong won his 5 SL titles over three years (I guess you could count it in months, but nobody does that when you can do it in years). He's three years older than Flash, but debuted only a year earlier. Jaedong won his first SL at age 17. Flash at 17, already has two to his name. JD won 5 titles in 2 years >.>, the fastest record to ever do that. The age argument is too speculative and meaningless, as only history will tell. Flash is certainly a prodigy of BW, probably one of the greatest to ever play the game. However, so is JD who is fighting for the GOAT position now only 3 people have 5 or more SL wins, and the other two are the greatest and most dominant players to play the game. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Though he was a recognized threat since 2006. You can look at it as him winning 5 titles in the last 2 years, or 5 titles over the +3 years of his career. Flash won a title only a yearafter his debut, more or less, like Jaedong. And has obviously not gotten 5 titles yet. To be fair, if he keeps up this rate of 1 title a year, he'll end up having 5 titles by the time he's 20 like Jaedong, as well. SC2 will probably stop it before then, though. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10829 Posts
thanks for the good work though, plexa! | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On February 09 2010 07:14 tree.hugger wrote: I sense a triumphant return to the PR from a certain two time OSL finalist... Triumphant depends on if he can qualify for SLs or not. But yeah if he keeps his form in WL he should get at least #10. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On February 07 2010 20:27 LosingID8 wrote: after reading through this entire thing, i remembered why i try and avoid PR threads. thanks for the good work though, plexa! I could never write PR. I'm just not that good at arguing, nor have the foresight to preemptively argue against all the SKT1 players. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On February 06 2010 04:11 Klive5ive wrote: There is a pretty simple argument to make. Flash was in the OSL final thanks to good wins in PREVIOUS months. THIS month Jaedong has a better win % and beat Flash in a Bo5. Now you can argue that Flash still played at a higher overall level (I don't agree) but still you can't deny the validity of the argument as simply "fanboy". He won a gold and got a silver. There is no discussion necessary. It's a fanboy argument, especially considering the schedules, Flash's later win against Jaedong and the like. Please... | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On February 06 2010 06:38 nimoraca wrote: Just look at the power rank in august. JD lost to Calm in MSL semis, lost to Fantasy in PL Finals, lost to Stork in Korea WCG, lost to Hyuk, but won the fucking OSL. He was first in Power Rank and nobody complained. Flash lost only to JD in January (in a weird MSL finals) won the OSL, played great in PL and WL. Why are we even discussing the number one spot? That was because no one was playing at his level. At the moment, Jaedong and Flash are pretty even. | ||
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WWJDD
India342 Posts
And by scrub I mean slumping. + Show Spoiler + Sorry effort fangirls. Losing to Lomo is slumping. | ||
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Redshirt
434 Posts
Seriously, I think Guemchi deserves to be in the power rank either way. Yeah he'll probably do poorly in individual leagues but the kid is seriously saving Woongjin's ass in proleague. | ||
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