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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
December 16 2009 10:30 GMT
#61
the one with ret in it
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
December 16 2009 10:55 GMT
#62
Easy hardest is group B and A is ez one.

Octzerg got preety good chance to play Morrow because his zvz is awesome not so sure if he can win Morrow.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 11:17:46
December 16 2009 10:58 GMT
#63
group A would have been nice but i have 3 zergs in my group just like ESL which is so lucky jesus christ this is unbelievable xD

are these groups like everyone play 1 series with each other like ESL?

edit: oh wait i just saw http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=107964 xd
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bellweather
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States404 Posts
December 16 2009 11:17 GMT
#64
Why are so many voting F? As a whole, the players in group B are clearly better than those in F.
A mathematician is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat which isnt' there. -Charles Darwin
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
December 16 2009 11:34 GMT
#65
group B is the group of death! ;-D
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
Horiz0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Sweden364 Posts
December 16 2009 11:42 GMT
#66
On December 16 2009 20:17 InsideTheBox wrote:
Why are so many voting F? As a whole, the players in group B are clearly better than those in F.


I think its the same mentality that comes to play as when you put boxer in a pool, people see ret and vote for him, not because they think, but just because its ret...
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 16 2009 12:44 GMT
#67
that and g5 and cloud are way better than morrow oct and naugrim, and at least as good as koll
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 16 2009 14:04 GMT
#68
an active Cloud yes and g5 way better than morrow and naugrim ?
I doubt it.. g5 and cloud are both awesome but naugrim and morrow are pretty good, too

In my opinion group G is getting far too few votes..
hatred outlives the hateful
Intr3pid
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Switzerland336 Posts
December 16 2009 14:18 GMT
#69
It's easily Group B, people just fanboying ret (not that I hate him or anything, the guy's great) doesn't make his group the group of death. Actually I think he won't have much trouble advancing, whereas in Group B it is much harder to tell because the skill is on a very high but yet balanced level.
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
December 16 2009 14:26 GMT
#70
Nubs, it's group E obviously.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 16 2009 14:30 GMT
#71
On December 16 2009 23:18 Intr3pid wrote:
It's easily Group B, people just fanboying ret (not that I hate him or anything, the guy's great) doesn't make his group the group of death. Actually I think he won't have much trouble advancing, whereas in Group B it is much harder to tell because the skill is on a very high but yet balanced level.

balanced level doesnt make it a group of depth. ask any player if theyd rather be in B or F, every one of them will say B.
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Intr3pid
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Switzerland336 Posts
December 16 2009 14:49 GMT
#72
I respect that and think a poll should be made amongst those 48 Players, the result would just be much more representative.
wifebeater
Profile Joined January 2008
178 Posts
December 16 2009 16:12 GMT
#73
Who the fuck is FlaF?
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Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
December 16 2009 17:19 GMT
#74
To me a group of death is a group where there are more good players than there are qualification spots. Since only 1 person advances here I'd say that the group with the strongest 2 players are the group of death. For example: An OSL group with firefist, flash, jaedong and spear would not be a group of death (since all players who should be in the ro8 will probably advance) whereas a group with Stork, Effort, Fantasy and pokju would be since we have 3 likely top 8 players in the same group.
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 18:10:49
December 16 2009 18:08 GMT
#75
On December 17 2009 02:19 Zinbiel wrote:
To me a group of death is a group where there are more good players than there are qualification spots. Since only 1 person advances here I'd say that the group with the strongest 2 players are the group of death. For example: An OSL group with firefist, flash, jaedong and spear would not be a group of death (since all players who should be in the ro8 will probably advance) whereas a group with Stork, Effort, Fantasy and pokju would be since we have 3 likely top 8 players in the same group.


Yeah I totally agree. Reminds me of the recent poll about the hardest OSL/MSL groups. It was clearly the one that had 3 high level A or S pros (in that case it was Fantasy, Effort, Calm). Not just the one with Flash/Stork in it.

EDIT: even though Kwanro/Tybe-B are very good
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
December 16 2009 18:21 GMT
#76
Lol.. do you even need a poll for this? F, of course... anybody who says anything different is either a retard or did not read the brackets at all.. or both.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 16 2009 18:22 GMT
#77
F. Go Kawaii!
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
December 16 2009 18:44 GMT
#78
Group of death to me means the one that will produce the closest games all the way. Doesn't matter at what level. To me that's group g. i doubt the winner of the tsl is in there, but anyone can win that group imo.
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
December 16 2009 18:52 GMT
#79
No group of death.
Intr3pid
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Switzerland336 Posts
December 16 2009 19:03 GMT
#80
If I knew how I would make a vote amongst the players, like "which group are you happy not to be in?". Ideas how to do it? Don't know if all of them are on TSL, I would do it over PM and post it somewhere.
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