EPTin reality ? Well.. the competition will be FIERCE !
TSL Ladder #1?
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
in reality ? Well.. the competition will be FIERCE ! | ||
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RYZmooN
Canada575 Posts
who are these Mana, Gosia, Dinot, Dimiga???? i never saw them >< | ||
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Trozz
Canada3454 Posts
He rocked Idra already. Idra for second. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On November 19 2009 07:15 RYZmooN wrote: idra fighting!!! (coz im a cj fan o-o) who are these Mana, Gosia, Dinot, Dimiga???? i never saw them >< T_T Should have heard of em though.. ^^ | ||
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
#2 white-ra | ||
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Husky
United States3362 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
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Pads
England3228 Posts
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Mobius
Canada1268 Posts
Idra Ret White-Ra Koll? dont know much about foreigners. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On November 19 2009 07:38 Pads wrote: Idra, Ret, Mondragon and quite a few others will probably only play as many games as they need to I would expect, rather than going for the 1 spot. Voted IdrA but could be tons of people really. This is probably true, but assuming that they all wanted to go for the #1 spot, my guess would be Ret. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
But if they play for less than 4 hrs a day Kolll for sure. | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
On November 19 2009 07:18 MaGic~PhiL wrote: T_T Should have heard of em though.. ^^ look at his post count, he's new. EDIT: voted ret, he is the most motivated player to be #1, he already has 3 accounts in B+ A- level, i think that he will even reach A level | ||
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Horiz0n
Sweden364 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
edit: ok, he's not seeded, what was I thinking? Then he very well might take #1. | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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Pergamon
Sweden100 Posts
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
so idra, ret, koll is an ok top 3 prediction | ||
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Leath
Canada1724 Posts
He is EVERYWHERE o.o | ||
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TryThis
Canada1522 Posts
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
even though Kolllsen has school hes gonna school Idra (no pun intended but laugh away or call me lame) | ||
semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
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foppa
Canada451 Posts
On November 19 2009 08:09 538 wrote: Will Idra even play the ladder, seeing how he's seeded? hes not seeded? | ||
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Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
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kaleidoscope
Singapore2887 Posts
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Nanoo
229 Posts
i want him to win and beat Nony | ||
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Sentient66
United States651 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
IdrA will blow it away. Ret will be closest and still 500 pts behind. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
On November 19 2009 10:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote: TL is so fucking sensationalized. Kolll did really well at this WCG guys.. but lets not start throwing our arms around every time we get the chance. So so true... He's posted one good result (albeit an important result), but that's all he's really shown. | ||
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JoMal
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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Sigh
Canada2433 Posts
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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MarF
Canada156 Posts
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
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Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
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OmgIRok
Taiwan2699 Posts
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TheFeared
United States67 Posts
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Future_sc
United States783 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Kolll finished highest in most recent WCG. He should be offered the #1 seed. Of course, thats only my opinion. | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
My bet is on White-Ra seeing as how he allways gets so damn high on the normal ladder. On a more nationalistic note I'd like to see Haypro go top 5 ladder stage and will be rooting for him in the playoffs aswell. | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
Kolll is going to qualify, no doubt, but I don't see him at #1. Edit: Aren't JF and Draco not on the poll because they're already seeded? I guess they might play the ladder anyway, but... | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On November 19 2009 13:21 1tym wrote: How does Kolll get more votes than Mondragon? Mondragon has won every WCG Germany he participated in even though this time around he wasn't around to his butt. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98838 even before wcg Kolll was considered the best player in Germany, by the Germans in that thread at least. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Probably ret then. | ||
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
Who is koll? | ||
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DrTJEckleburg
United States1080 Posts
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lxginverse
Monaco1506 Posts
gogo | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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RRRMz
Russian Federation37 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On November 19 2009 13:21 1tym wrote: How does Kolll get more votes than Mondragon? Mondragon has won every WCG Germany he participated in even though this time around he wasn't around to his butt. Additionally we didnt talk about skill / success in this poll but mostly about how much u play.. But actually I read the poll wrong for the first time, too. I wasnt paying attention and thought its about the winner of TSL not the ladder#1. But i guess Idra,ret,kolll in no particular order are still the 3 most likely to finish #1. Idra and ret play very much and kolll normaly as well. Have to give MaNa good chances, too... | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
Idra plays terran so his games take a longer time in general, especially TvP on maps like heartbreak/outsider/desti where the only way to win is through a long straight up game | ||
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GoAudio
Sweden400 Posts
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739
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On November 19 2009 07:15 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Top 3 will be ret,koll,idra ( speaking of the poll ) in reality ? Well.. the competition will be FIERCE ! I lol'd. No wai son, no wai. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On November 19 2009 12:42 TheFeared wrote: Idra wont play to get #1. he'll only play to be top 48. Ret will go for #1, same with kolll nah theres nothing pressing going on right now besides proleague and the advantage from #1 is big enough that ill try to get it. | ||
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B1nary
Canada1267 Posts
Edit: well... I suppose if Idra really tries for #1, he'll get it XD | ||
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TotalDominator
United States30 Posts
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InDaHouse
Sweden956 Posts
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coconutman
United Kingdom26 Posts
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
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FantomX
Canada247 Posts
On November 19 2009 10:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote: TL is so fucking sensationalized. Kolll did really well at this WCG guys.. but lets not start throwing our arms around every time we get the chance. He won't be top 1 on the ladder.. probably top 10 but almost certainly not top 5. IdrA will blow it away. Ret will be closest and still 500 pts behind. I agree. Koll said that he only plays about 4 hours a day. I'm sure that time will go up a bit during the ladder but someone like Idra who has the unlimited (more or less) amount of time (and skill) to play will take it. | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
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HeaDStrong
Scotland785 Posts
However the tournament stage might be a different story. | ||
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hefty
Denmark555 Posts
On November 19 2009 17:39 IdrA wrote: nah theres nothing pressing going on right now besides proleague and the advantage from #1 is big enough that ill try to get it. Nice to know.  This makes it that more interesting! | ||
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Glaucus
479 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
So far Im pretty damn right.. but lets see who lols last.. ^^ | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
Yeah, my bad  Well then, especially after seeing his post here, I'd say Idra will take #1. (provided -hopefully- the ladder won't have a lot of abuse. I'd like to see some drama early on though ) | ||
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
 instead of dinot maybe | ||
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n3m0
Portugal247 Posts
It's really sad since Europe in general is ages ahead of North America in terms of skill. Anyway I think Ret will win ;p I don't think Idra can make it to top3 thou lol | ||
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PeAcY6969
France621 Posts
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
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PangO
Chile1870 Posts
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BloodDrunK
Bangladesh2767 Posts
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Not_A_Notion
Ireland441 Posts
I voted Dinot for the laugh, kinda regret that now The love for Koll is a bit excessive | ||
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Herro_Korea
310 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Idra might be slightly more polished, but ret plays zerg. =D | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On November 20 2009 00:02 Piy wrote: I dunno if Idra will really play the ladder as much as people are saying. If rets not back in Estro house soon he'll probably have more time to do it. On November 19 2009 17:39 IdrA wrote: nah theres nothing pressing going on right now besides proleague and the advantage from #1 is big enough that ill try to get it. | ||
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fbog2
United States15 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
On November 20 2009 02:18 fbog2 wrote: [gosl]terran Isn't he the Mexican Terran who talked big about his chances at WCG and then didn't perform too well? I have never seen him play so I don't know how good he is but he seemed kind of cocky in the pre-WCG on gg.net interview compared to his actual results at WCG. | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
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jeddus
United States832 Posts
Even though he is not currently a "top foreigner", I think Draco usually scores high on ladders for money tournaments too, so I am surprised not to see his name, but that's all right. He's probably seeded and doesn't need to ladder, to answer my own question. | ||
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jeddus
United States832 Posts
On November 19 2009 12:28 OmgIRok wrote: how the hell is jf not on this poll =\ Not sure if this is answered, but I think JF is not required to play in the ladder stage, thus not needing to be number 1. | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
On November 19 2009 08:23 l10f wrote: Don't forget Koll has school muhahaha. Don't forget Ret has a life ^^ | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On November 19 2009 18:44 coconutman wrote: Is Brat_OK playing this time? he's seeded | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
There will be so many active players that the #1 probably needs to be high A- or A, so actually it will mainly come down to skill.. | ||
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Forgottenfrog
United States1268 Posts
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On November 20 2009 10:52 {ToT}Strafe wrote: Voted for Mondragon, because I haven't been a part of the bw scene for 3 years FIXED | ||
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wadadde
270 Posts
Idra has been winning a lot of tournaments lately, but that doesn't mean that he's invincible. not even in a best of 2659. I don't care who wins the ladder, but I hope that it'll be close! Same for the rest of the TSL. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On November 20 2009 00:05 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Idra and Ret will be playing Korean hours I think that might make it very hard to reach #1. nah im gonna take the mondragon approach just 10-0 every media zerg until im in first | ||
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Suc
Australia1569 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On November 20 2009 16:56 Suc wrote: Where is the nony/jf option :D T____________________T Edit - On topic, I'm surprised Mondi is still getting so many votes on name alone. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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-Sky-
Bulgaria284 Posts
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
U are not saying Mondi isnt competetive anymore are ya ? | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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739
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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Puosu
6985 Posts
kolll will disappoint imo. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On November 20 2009 22:30 Crucifix wrote: I still don't get it. Kolll did good in WCG and ur putting him over White-Ra? Come on, seriously guys... xd u are aware of the fact that kolll is a similiar ladder beast as white-ra ? They both can easily get A- .. | ||
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groro
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739
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On November 20 2009 23:35 MaGic~PhiL wrote: u are aware of the fact that kolll is a similiar ladder beast as white-ra ? They both can easily get A- .. So what? Compare typical White-Ra game from ICCup Ladder to any of his games from a $$ Tourney. You will see the difference. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
Ret Idra | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
He won't even get Top 5, mark my words. | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On November 21 2009 01:55 Pokebunny wrote: IdrA -> ret -> Kolll... but it mostly depends on how much IdrA and ret play on ladder (they might not actually try for the top spots, although I think both of them would be confident against NonY's mechanical style (as they are both probably stronger than him in mechanics). I wouldn't have voted for him, but I'd rather see BRAT_OK on this poll than DIMAGA/Strelok/MaNa/DinOt/GOsia. Bratok is seeded Idra also said hell aim for no1 and not play just enough to qualify | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
I probably won't be good enough to keep up with foreigners who pick opponents, even though ladder #1 is a really good deal. | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On November 21 2009 01:32 grobo wrote: He seems to be okay. I don't think he's as good as, say, Mondragon or Sen... then again, this might be his chance to prove me wrong.Holy shit the Koll fanboyism is ridiculous... He won't even get Top 5, mark my words. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
There are no excuses to getting lower than no.2 | ||
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Makin
Chile36 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On November 21 2009 08:37 MYM.Testie wrote: Shit no HoN is way too fun. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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asel
Germany1599 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + dodge | ||
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GGYouMake
United States69 Posts
On November 19 2009 07:33 MaGic~PhiL wrote: this poll is kinda lacking the [x] OTHER option though Indeed cuz im winning | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On November 21 2009 04:50 MYM.Testie wrote: It's your job to play Starcraft now. There are no excuses to getting lower than no.2 you know jaedong just lost to advokate at a big offline tournament if the best player ever can lose vs a 2nd class foreigner people need to shut the fuck up. practicing in korea makes you good. it doesnt make you invincible. | ||
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Kare
Norway786 Posts
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On November 22 2009 09:25 IdrA wrote: you know jaedong just lost to advokate at a big offline tournament if the best player ever can lose vs a 2nd class foreigner people need to shut the fuck up. practicing in korea makes you good. it doesnt make you invincible. Word i wonder whats going to happen when combat x gets top spot LOL | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On November 22 2009 22:58 meeple wrote: kolll hasn't even shown his face yet, so perhaps he's not gonna compete. Ret got the top right now, and or the foreseeable future... he right on the edge of B+ and the majority of even the top people are still sitting around C+/B- Kolll isnt home for more than a few days from wcg, so he missed a lot of stuff in school and has some catching up to do i guess. I also dont think his parents want him to play right away at the next tournament, the minute he comes back from China. My guess is that he will show up mid/late next week. ( I know nothing about him, so this is 100% speculation, but it seems reasonable to me). | ||
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w3c]sKopheK
Czech Republic54 Posts
On November 22 2009 09:25 IdrA wrote: you know jaedong just lost to advokate at a big offline tournament if the best player ever can lose vs a 2nd class foreigner people need to shut the fuck up. practicing in korea makes you good. it doesnt make you invincible. thats true, but it was only one game, you have like infinite of them here so better be top3 :D there are way too many options in the poll, gosia, dinot, mana, strelok, dimaga dont have any chance to be #1 | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On November 23 2009 02:02 aqui wrote: Kolll isnt home for more than a few days from wcg, so he missed a lot of stuff in school and has some catching up to do i guess. I also dont think his parents want him to play right away at the next tournament, the minute he comes back from China. My guess is that he will show up mid/late next week. ( I know nothing about him, so this is 100% speculation, but it seems reasonable to me). $$$$$$ , THOUGH :D | ||
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
and secondly: Hi neighbour ^^ | ||
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
or some noname! | ||
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Sen has a good shot at it as well.. | ||
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Probe.
United States877 Posts
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
On November 23 2009 16:42 MaGic~PhiL wrote: so far it looks like we no jack shit who will take it.. Sen has a good shot at it as well.. well considering idra is at first right now, and looking at idra's match list where he is basically playing all koreans, with alot of those koreans prbly being pros/semipros... not to mention the other people like ret and mana and kr are not playing as many koreans, with prbly none being semipros/pros i dont think anyone is even going to get close to where idra is, unless they dodge koreans like crazy and a-teamer smurfs becomes the only opponents that idra plays even then it'd be difficult to tell who becomes #1 it's pretty clear idra will be #1 here | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
He can win the whole thing, but having a weak matchup is not the best way to end up first on this kind of ladder. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
idra might really make it.. but there are many guys who can make A- or A it will all depend on how hard they try.. but i think that gettin #1 is a HUGE HUGE advantage so everyone should try.. | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On November 23 2009 17:32 blue_arrow wrote: The fact that Idra is ahead early on the ladder seems to me to have a direct correlation with the fact that he plays this game all day -> He can get to A- faster than people who don't play the game all day.well considering idra is at first right now, and looking at idra's match list where he is basically playing all koreans, with alot of those koreans prbly being pros/semipros... not to mention the other people like ret and mana and kr are not playing as many koreans, with prbly none being semipros/pros i dont think anyone is even going to get close to where idra is, unless they dodge koreans like crazy and a-teamer smurfs becomes the only opponents that idra plays even then it'd be difficult to tell who becomes #1 it's pretty clear idra will be #1 here As things even out more, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Sen, ret, Draco, etc. pull ahead of Idra. It hasn't even been a week yet- anything could happen. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
he's already qualified.. | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
By the way, Mana is ahead of IdrA now! | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
Idra is probably getting owned in the CJ house atm | ||
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jfourz
Ireland421 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On November 19 2009 10:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote: TL is so fucking sensationalized. Kolll did really well at this WCG guys.. but lets not start throwing our arms around every time we get the chance. He won't be top 1 on the ladder.. probably top 10 but almost certainly not top 5. IdrA will blow it away. Ret will be closest and still 500 pts behind. ding ding fucking ding | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Kolll is one of the rare gamers I give good chances to get a high A- .. he is much more used to playing vs koreans than anyone else except idra and maybe ret.. but we will see.. =) | ||
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