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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
November 15 2009 15:57 GMT
#81
Bo3 Ro16, Bo5 Ro8 / Ro4, Bo7 Finals was my vote.
wadadde
Profile Joined February 2009
270 Posts
November 15 2009 18:59 GMT
#82
On November 16 2009 00:46 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2009 00:20 wadadde wrote:
All you BO5 clowns are in the minority and seriously, yes, the BO7 format could be over the top, but it could also be the most memorable foreigner finals ever. Starcraft is almost dead and I think we need to think of its legacy. Which finals are we going to remember? The BO5 one, which contained some very decent games? Or the BO7 one, which lasted so long that it wasn't actually the player who had the best builds planned out who won, but rather the player who got terribly far behind, before eventually making a comeback based on raw skill and absolute determination ?
B

O

7

!


More games doesn't equal better finals.
They could go for Bo21 and there would be no tension in any game.
Less games equals more tension, but also increases the luckfactor. Bo5 is the perfect mix.
I remember lots of Bo5 from the korean pro scene, and Bo5 is certainly enough.

Only reason why we're in the minority is because many people vote before they actually think about it, as has been stated above.

I hope the staff knows about this too.



Well, you're right and you're wrong. If you've ever watched a snooker finals, then you'd know that indeed, the first few frames are not the most exciting. However, the longer a match goes, the more tired the players get and it's very hard for players to keep their cool. I'm not that interested in consistently perfect plays. I'm more into seeing these gladiators fight till they've got nothing more to give. The fact that BO5 'works' is not something I will dispute, but getting out of that comfort zone MIGHT bring something special to the finals.
wadadde
Profile Joined February 2009
270 Posts
November 15 2009 19:08 GMT
#83
... no disrespect, Stylish. I know you're way better at the game & stuff..
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 15 2009 19:39 GMT
#84
I voted Bo3 Ro16, Bo5 Ro8 / Ro4, Bo7 but maybe I was wrong... a Bo7 could be tiring if the games weren't exciting...
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 15 2009 19:48 GMT
#85
I don't think it would be tiring to watch 7 games, it's not that IMO. Stylish is correct about what he says in his post; Bo5 is the ultimate compromise between reduction of luck factor and tension in each game.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7943 Posts
November 15 2009 20:58 GMT
#86
Definitly Bo3 Ro16 to Bo5.

Ro7 fucks a lot of the mind game because each of the games lose of their importance. The gambling in cheeses / Bo choices is much, much more exciting in Bo5 imo.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 15 2009 21:54 GMT
#87
bo7 is way too long for a final.
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
November 15 2009 22:01 GMT
#88
On November 16 2009 03:59 wadadde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2009 00:46 StylishVODs wrote:
On November 16 2009 00:20 wadadde wrote:
All you BO5 clowns are in the minority and seriously, yes, the BO7 format could be over the top, but it could also be the most memorable foreigner finals ever. Starcraft is almost dead and I think we need to think of its legacy. Which finals are we going to remember? The BO5 one, which contained some very decent games? Or the BO7 one, which lasted so long that it wasn't actually the player who had the best builds planned out who won, but rather the player who got terribly far behind, before eventually making a comeback based on raw skill and absolute determination ?
B

O

7

!


More games doesn't equal better finals.
They could go for Bo21 and there would be no tension in any game.
Less games equals more tension, but also increases the luckfactor. Bo5 is the perfect mix.
I remember lots of Bo5 from the korean pro scene, and Bo5 is certainly enough.

Only reason why we're in the minority is because many people vote before they actually think about it, as has been stated above.

I hope the staff knows about this too.



Well, you're right and you're wrong. If you've ever watched a snooker finals, then you'd know that indeed, the first few frames are not the most exciting. However, the longer a match goes, the more tired the players get and it's very hard for players to keep their cool. I'm not that interested in consistently perfect plays. I'm more into seeing these gladiators fight till they've got nothing more to give. The fact that BO5 'works' is not something I will dispute, but getting out of that comfort zone MIGHT bring something special to the finals.


yeah, it also might bring something terrible and depressing to the finals instead.
and comparing sc to snookers is not good, you are always on edge, fidgity, extremely reactive and concentrated in SC, while in snookers you have time to think coolly and chill yourself out.

And why would you not want consistent and awesomely-executed plays? I don't want the last few games to become something that looks like some D- scrubs are playing against each other because the players are so tired and sloppy..
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-16 01:11:33
November 16 2009 01:09 GMT
#89
Is there a reason the Ro16 can't be a group stage?

Especially with the last qualifier stage being a best of 5, I think it would be weird to go back to a best of 3. A best of 5 has between 24-40 games in the round of 16 while a group stage has 24 + tiebreakers.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
November 16 2009 04:44 GMT
#90
I WANT A MADAFAKING bo7

!

Unreasonable to play bo5s for every other game though ;p
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
November 16 2009 05:30 GMT
#91
Voted Bo3 Ro16, Bo5 after...

Bo7 just isn't all that fun imo. There's so much pressure in a Bo5 but the luck element is reduced more than in a Bo3....

Bo7 just doesnt feel right.
EverydayStruggle
Profile Joined November 2009
United States77 Posts
November 16 2009 05:37 GMT
#92
Bo7 is just boring to watch. No more creativity after the 4th game.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
November 16 2009 07:28 GMT
#93
How the hell can you guys voting even consider the Bo7 options. T____T

Bo3 until Ro16, then Bo5 after. I don't know how anything else is even being considered -_-
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FantomX
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada247 Posts
November 16 2009 08:36 GMT
#94
On November 16 2009 16:28 EvilTeletubby wrote:
How the hell can you guys voting even consider the Bo7 options. T____T

Bo3 until Ro16, then Bo5 after. I don't know how anything else is even being considered -_-


I agree. Bo3 can be luck and Bo7 is hugely unnecessary as Bo5 in most cases ends with the person who played better throughout the series, and another 2 games won't change that. Not only for the players themselves but the casters and even the spectators, Bo7 would get boring.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 16 2009 08:53 GMT
#95
On November 16 2009 16:28 EvilTeletubby wrote:
How the hell can you guys voting even consider the Bo7 options. T____T

Bo3 until Ro16, then Bo5 after. I don't know how anything else is even being considered -_-


There's already a Bo5 qualifier right before the Round of 16.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
November 16 2009 09:09 GMT
#96
Hmmm... can TSL massage the brackets to avoid mirrors? That would be sweet... mirrors always seem to favor strong mechanics over creative play, which to me defeats the purpose of watching foreigners instead of Korean pros.

Anyways, Bo5 all-round sounds like the best option, but if I were planning to watch every match I'd probably prefer Bo3 or some kind of group system in the early stages. Mass Bo5 would get tiring fast.
My strategy is to fork people.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
November 16 2009 16:00 GMT
#97
Bo3 Ro16, Bo5 Ro8 / Ro4, Bo7 Finals

this
750/750 emotions fully stacked
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
November 16 2009 17:13 GMT
#98
Either Bo3/Bo5 or Bo3/Bo5/Bo7... I like both
RIP eSTRO :(
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
November 16 2009 17:27 GMT
#99
On November 14 2009 10:47 Kazius wrote:
There should be an option: Bo3 if TvT, Bo9 if ZvZ, Bo7 everything else.



hehehe


Bo3-Bo5-and finals Bo7 will be great for me. Good luck with all!
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
November 16 2009 18:10 GMT
#100
OSL Style!
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