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[SPL] The Final Five

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May 30th, 2009 01:52 GMT
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Shinhan Proleague 2008/2009 Coverage by Riptide and Heyoka


For twelve professional Starcraft teams, this really is Last Chance Hotel. Today begins Round 5 of the 2008/2009 Shinhan Proleague, and with six playoff spots up for grabs and only eleven games apiece to do it in, if there ever was a time to seize the day, it's now. While individual leagues were responsible for the birth of the pro scene, it's also evident that the highly competitive nature of contemporary Korean Broodwar owes a lot of its development to the team leagues that created, fostered and passed on fierce rivalries. Without professional teams behind it, the game would probably have never been what it is today.

A Proleague Grand Final appearance can change the course of a team's future, and a title is a pre-requisite for any outfit that wants to leave their mark on the game. As these twelve teams head into this final round, they are no doubt beginning to feel the pressure mount. Round 5 of the Shinhan Proleague 2008/2009 will consist of 11 games for each team, with the top six making the playoffs. The playoffs themselves will be played out like this.

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Quite simple, isn't it?

Now, in these few hours, as fanboys everywhere take off their team t-shirts and attempt to wash them before the next round commences, there's no doubt that the teams themselves are spending a lot of time in their practice rooms, listening to their coaches, practicing their builds, and re-evaluating their strategies. Unless they're on SK Telecom T1, that is. Last week, the outside of the SKT T1 team house probably looked a little like this.

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Here's an exclusive interview that TL managed to score with team captain Doctor.K.

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TL: Congratulations on a great performance in Round 4, and thank you for agreeing to be interviewed.

Doctor.K: Thanks, and no problem. Team Liquid is pretty awesome.

TL: Yeah it, isn't it? Anyway, let's get down to business. Did SKT get a chance to celebrate the three places you guys moved up in R4?

Doctor.K: Yeah, we did actually. It was supposed to be low key, you know, some pizza, a couple of 4v4 BGH games, and a few rounds of flog the zerg.

TL: Flog the zerg?

Doctor.K: Yeah, it's where we take thezerg, rumble and s2 outside and beat them with our mice and keyboards. We usually hit them a dozen times each for every game they lose. Needless to say, they normally end up quite sore.

TL: That doesn't sound very nice.

Doctor.K: No, don't worry - we only use broken accessories, so no wastage there. Best breaks keyboards all the time, and Boxer hyung's mice always stop clicking after a while.

TL: So the celebration was good, I take it?

Doctor.K: Well, so-so. We were about to turn in when a dozen cases of Hite were delivered, courtesy of Leta no doubt. A few bottles later, Coach Choi walked in with three hundred and eighty bananas, and I knew it wasn't going to end up well. I'm the captain for a reason, you see – been there, done that, got the noogies. Pretty soon, fantasy was playing 1v2 vs thezerg and s2, and Best, who was chugging a bottle every time fantasy killed a muta, then went in to DT mode.

TL: DT mode?

Doctor.K: Yes, a six pack is Best's equivalent of an Archives. Put a few in him, and he actually thinks he is a Dark Templar. Come to think of it, he actually may well be a DT. That would certainly explain the torn curtains and shredded mousepads.

TL: OK, then.

Doctor.K: Anyway, he was walking around with two empty bottles for psi blades. I deemed it dangerous, and sent him to bed. Three hours later I find him and Kim Taek Yong in the practice room, in the middle of a Best of 50 on Battle Royal. I tried to tell them that the map was out of the pool in R5, but Best was too drunk (by this time he had strapped the empty Hite bottles to his forearms), and Bisu just smiled and continued reading his daum cafe posts on the other monitor. The night went downhill from there.

Now that we're done with that little formality, let's get down to some team by team analysis. Before we begin however, it's good to remember that statistical analysis of a game this complex is difficult at best, and that all our predictions, speculation and general rhetoric is all based on how these teams have done in the last few rounds. We do not rule out the chance of an underdog going 11 – 0 and holding onto a playoff spot, but while that would be pretty cool to watch, it probably isn't going to happen. With R5 starting less than a week after the end of the last, it's safe to say that how each team performed in the previous round is a pretty good indication of how they are going to perform in the next.

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Where it's at, from the Results and Standings Thread.

Hwaseung Oz
Oz is on their way to the playoffs. Riding almost solely on Jaedong's shoulders, sure, but nevertheless on their way to the playoffs. As defending Proleague champs, they certainly proved their worthiness by dominating all four rounds so far, and look poised to cruise comfortably into the playoffs. Although their #1 spot will definitely be contested by SKT, even if they are overtaken there's little chance of them dropping more than a notch or two.

There are of course those who will like to point out that Lee Jaedong is in a slump. Even given that he is, however, there is no denying that even a sub optimal Legend Killer still stands a good head and shoulders above everyone with perhaps the notable exception of Bisu. But more on that later. Despite losing five and winning only six in R4, Oz sits comfortably at 27 - 15 thanks to stellar performances in rounds 2 and 3. Though followed closely by SKT, Khan and CJ, it will truly take a disaster to put Hwaseung out of the playoffs. With 11 games left, they just need to win a measly 4 to bag themselves a playoff spot, and with The Tyrant at the helm, it's difficult to imagine them doing otherwise.

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Oz likes Jaedong because, because, because, because, because.
Because of the wonderful things he does (with mutas, and hydras, and lings, and defilers).

However, if there's one problem with an entire team riding on the wins of a single player, it's this – fatigue. Despite Lomo and Backho trying their best, they really are not giving the Zerg the support he needs, and slowly, over the last few rounds of Proleague, Jaedong has become a workhorse akin to the likes of what Nada once was. Playing anything and everything, he has singlehandedly made sure that the Oz banner flies high. Therefore, the day he begins to crumble, is the day Oz begins to fall.

SKT Telecom T1
SKT T1 has played well this season. In fact, they have played alarmingly well. After a less than spectacular 2007, it's as though they shook themselves, dusted their gosu playbooks, and came back with a vengeance. Second runner up in the 2008 Proleague, they no doubt went into the current season with high hopes, and despite a lackluster Round 1, recovered well to go 8 - 3, 7 - 4, 8 - 3 in rounds 2 - 4 respectively.

They now sit in a cosy number two spot, and like Oz, are all but assured of a playoff spot. With Bisu, Best and Fantasy aboard, T1 boasts what is arguably one of the most solid lineups in Proleague today, and will be a definite favourite to bridge the two game gap and take the coveted #1 position which Oz holds at the moment. Needless to say, Bisu, the one man wrecking crew, will certainly be an integral part of any take down attempt. Going an unbelievable 9 – 2 in R4, Bisu is definitely ready to take SKT T1 to the coveted #1 spot, and thereby get them seeded directly into the Grand Finals. Sitting at just two games behind Oz, and with a 8-3 R4 record when compared with Hwaseung's 6-5, the Protoss powerhouse could easily lead them to #1 in the next eleven games.

Samsung Khan
Defending champions, Samsung Khan have been near the pinnacle of Proleague for a good three seasons now. Sporting an impressive line up, and favouring a strong tactical approach to choosing matchups, embodied well in games like Frozean sniping Jaedong in the SPL 2007 finals, Coach January is well equipped to bridge the 3 game gap they have with Oz, and take #1 as they go into the playoffs. Of course, getting to #1 is probably not a big priority for a team this experienced.

With veterans like Stork and firebathero, and a strong younger contingent including the likes of Jangbi, Khan will be looking at making the playoffs, and then working their way through, one game at a time. Although the Khan in seasons past would have no doubt gone for #1 from the get go, their 5-6, 6-5 runs in R3 and R4 probably did their confidence no favours, a fact that has been confirmed by their performance in recent games. Also, being tied for wins with a CJ and Sparkyz led by Effort and Leta respectively no doubt has them worried about their playoff spot as well.

CJ Entus
For many a season, CJ sported one of the best all round Proleague lineups. From nearly taking the crown from Oz in 2007, the team fell hard and fast and even missed a podium place in Proleague 2008. Now, led by Effort (8-2), Kwanro (4-1) and SkyHigh (5-4), they are all but ready to go for the title once again.

Effort performed well this round, and along with Kwanro, seems to complete the Zerg arsenal required by CJ. Of course, the removal of Battle Royal in R5 is a real blow to these two, especially since both players boast above 60% averages in the ZvZ matchup which the map heavily favoured. On another front, SkyHigh, the new Terran on the block, blazed through the Winner's League final with a spectacular all-kill that included Jaedong himself. With a struggling Much (1-3) however, the team has been forced to rely on Movie, a Protoss who hasn't done that great himself in R4.

Having said that, CJ is definitely a favourite for the playoffs, and should have no problem holding off a struggling STX, Stars and KTF to hold on to a 4+ position on the standings table. Sparkyz, of course, tied for points with them, could very well pose a threat to the less than optimal Entus outfit.

Hite Sparkyz
Runners up in 2008, the Sparkyz have played well this season as well, and are all but assured a playoff spot. Despite a less than stellar performance by Yellow[ArnC], the team has pulled through, with Horang2 in particular going a decent 6 – 3 in Round 4. As far as Sparkyz are concerned, they probably just want to make the playoffs, and in reality they should do just fine. STX, their closest contenders, are three games down, and are unlikely to close that gap in the weeks to come. Sparkyz, on the other hand, will definitely be looking at moving up against Khan and CJ, and securing a #3 or #2 spot, even though the runner up position may be a little out of their league at the moment.

Of course, the team has the same weakness that Oz does in that it relies on one player to do most of the heavy lifting. In this case, Leta is the all purpose power tool, and with the team riding on his wins, there's a good chance that a loss here and there for the streaking Terran may really throw them off balance. Of course, the team will find some consolation in Leta going 10 – 4 in round four, and will be hoping that his form will continue into R5 and the playoffs.

STX/Stars/KTF/MBC
Going, 23-21, 22-22, 21-23 and 21-23 respectively, these four stragglers of Proleague 2008/2009 are locked in a race for playoff spot number six. While it is technically possible for one of them to oust a flailing Samsung Khan and get a #5 spot as well, it's unlikely to happen, even given Khan's current form.

STX, Stars and KTF are all 4 – 7 in R4, and MBC too are not far behind at 5-6. While a STX lead by Calm could definitely hold off the other contenders and bag the playoff spot, one must remember that even with a failing Luxury and overworked Flash, KTF is still very much in the game. Woongjin too have made their mark this season in the lower part of the ladder, with Zero, the Zerg powerhouse going 6-6, the same as Flash. MBC, though technically in contention for a playoff spot, will find it difficult going. Though Jaehoon and Light, at 5-5 and 5-4 respectively have managed to salvage a little bit of respect for HERO, they will need nothing short of a major upset from another contender to make it anywhere near spot number six.

FOX/ACE/eStro
While both ACE and eStro have a better R4 record (5-6) than STX, Stars and KTF, the game deficit they have to make up in order to be in striking range of a playoff spot is just too much. ACE, if it wasn't already clear, are just not going to make it this year, since with even a 11-0 record in R5 they will still only be at 19 wins. With some good performances by Casy, Oversky and Gorush though, the team may be looking at consolidating their skills during the off season and coming back for a better in 2009/2010.

eStro on the other hand, at 17-27, can still technically make a playoff spot. Mathematics aside, however, it is unlikely that Upmagic or hyvaa can take them any further than #9 or #10. Fox suffered a similar fate, and were failed badly by their Terran trio in R4, with Nada, Mind and Baby having a collective record of 2 – 8. While Pure, Shine and Roro certainly tried their best, and will continue to do so as they look for a playoff spot, their 18-26 overall record tells us that Wemade is not going anywhere this season.

Top Gun
Of course, as the teams themselves fight each other to be in the top six at the end of this round, and thereby make the playoffs, the league's top players are also inadvertently fighting each other for the coveted role of Top Gun. Let's take a look at contenders for the most number of wins in Proleague 2008/2009.

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It's a little known fact that the famous Korean clenched fist gun-ho pose so popular in post-game photo sessions was actually pioneered by this ardent Protoss player.

With 44 wins apiece, and a team that is relying on them both to perform well in R5, Lee Jaedong and Kim Taek Yong are the two major contenders for Top Gun. Although Leta is behind by a handful of games, and with the weight he carries for Sparkyz indeed has the potential to overtake one or both of them, it's unlikely that he will be able to do so in just 11 matches.

A factor that will definitely play in Jaedong's favour, of course, is that he is basically guaranteed game time in all 11 matches, while Bisu may lose a seat or two to a SKT lineup that is very strong in itself. Given that he gets to play all 11 as well, however, Bisu is definitely the favourite for Top Gun at the end of R5. Apart from edging Jaedong in R4 by having one less loss with the same number of wins, the Protoss is also playing significantly better than his Zerg counterpart, and will very likely dispatch anyone he faces in R5 with ease. While his recent embarrassing loss to Violet should be taken into account, Jaedong's Proleague follies as of late have been more numerous, and include losses to the likes of Movie and hyvaa, all of which indicate an under performing, and as mentioned before, a perhaps over burdened Oz flagship.

Hello Computer
With the final round here, let's also not forget to do some calculations. After a plethora of calculations, many pots of coffee, and countless hours of youtube distractions, we are proud to present our analysis of playoff hopefuls.

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The aftermath of R4.

This is a condensed chart of standings post-Round 4 (more detailed stats including race breakdown by team can be found in the main R&S thread). The R5 Predicted column gives a number for how many games each team can expect to win, based on past match performance. The accuracy of calculations will improve over the course of this round, but for now, this is what your friendly neighbourhood news team thinks is gonna happen.

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Heyoka keenly followed Proleague to bring you these detailed statistics.

Using an advanced algorithm originally developed aboard the USS Enterprise, we can predict that the number of wins needed to make the playoffs is around 29. We say around 29, of course, because Proleague is not governed solely by logic, Captain. Anyway, with that knowledge we can then predict how likely it is that each team will hit the required threshold. Based on their record this season, Oz is close to being 100% sure of a playoff spot, and SKT is very near that. A detailed chart based on this data is in the works for next week's SPL update, but for now, let the speculation flow!

Fun Stats!
Lies, damned lies, and statistics. We aim to specialise in at least two of these by the time this season is over, and in pursuit of this goal have come up with some side servings for you statistics nerds out there.

The distribution of set length in R4 was markedly different from the way it was for rounds 1 and 2. In rounds 1 and 2 the distribution looked very similar, and taking that as normal we did a compare and contrast and arrived at the following conclusions.

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Teams had waaay to much time on their hands during R1 and R2.


This is very similar to what you expect from anything involving a best of 5 competition. The number going to 5 games is a little high, but well within expected range. This feature can also perhaps be explained by the fact that teams often field weaker players against worse teams, a phenomenon we will look at in the weeks to come.

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In R4, players tried to finish matches quickly so they could go home and play Sudden Attack.


As you can see, this is an almost completely even distribution. In fact, it is interesting to note that in this last round, there were more 3-0 matches than ace games. As the playoffs draw nearer, it is possible that coaches want to experiment less, and win more in less time, and with less headaches.

Next, we made up a graph that details the win percentages of each team broken down by the length of matches they played.

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97.1% fanboys will nerd rage about these statistics.


In future, by comparing this distribution to past rounds we will be able to make more concrete statements about each team's strengths and strategies. In theory you would expect that the teams on the top and bottom have short sets in general, while having teams in the middle go ace more often. Of course, theories don't always hold true, a fact that we will examine more closely in future updates.

Individual Stats
If you follow Fantasy Proleague closely you might have also noticed some amusing individual statistics. OversKy is playing perhaps the best he ever has, going 6-2 and netting nearly 1/3 of ACE's total wins. Thezerg went 6-2 as well, and the SKT zerg lineup looks reasonable for the first time in ages. We'd like to comment about how this round has been kind to all zergs, but then realised that fan favorite Luxury ended up with a disastrous 1-8 record. Finally, we're going to wrap up this section with a nod to KTF's mantoss replacement, Violet, who finished round 4 undefeated at 6-0.

The Final Five
With just eleven games left, and only six positions open on the road to the most prestigious team title in eSports, these next few weeks are going to be taxing for players and fans alike. Of course, the Final Five have been chosen, and there's little that's going to shake them.

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The five lights of the apocalypse rising struggling towards the light, the sins revealed only to those who enter the temple, only to the chosen one.


Hwaseung Oz
SKT T1
CJ Entus
Hite Sparkyz
Samsung Khan

Who then, will be the chosen one? STX? Stars? KTF? MBC? With eleven games left, and everything on the line, one of these teams is going to have to step up, and take what is rightfully theirs. What's clear, however, is that these next eleven games are going to change teams, players and careers, for it is in situations like these, with everything on the line, that the masters of this art truly begin to shine. Here's to seven weeks of fierce micro, intense mind games, and showdowns that we will remember and talk about for years to come!
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Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 02:26:42
May 30 2009 02:14 GMT
#2
Oh wow, my head just exploded from an aneurysm induced by stats porn.

I really think that T1 or CJ have the best chance of taking the title, unless it comes down to T1's zergs, who are just not up to scratch.
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SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
May 30 2009 02:23 GMT
#3
Awesome (P)Doctor.K interview.
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King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
May 30 2009 02:24 GMT
#4
Nice interview lmao.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
May 30 2009 02:29 GMT
#5
wow awesome writeup, 10/10

CJ hwaiting!
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
May 30 2009 02:30 GMT
#6
awesome! Thanks riptide!
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
May 30 2009 02:33 GMT
#7
On May 30 2009 11:23 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
Awesome (P)Doctor.K interview.

www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
May 30 2009 02:34 GMT
#8
There are of course those who will like to point out that Lee Jaedong is in a slump

9-1 in last 10 games is considered a slump? That's pretty amazing imo.
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[)ark_Archer
Profile Joined May 2009
United States28 Posts
May 30 2009 02:40 GMT
#9
Wow. I cant imagine Best getting drunk and acting like some weird offspring of a Dark Templar and a Zealot. Just boogles the mind a little...
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bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
May 30 2009 02:44 GMT
#10
Lol, nice interview with Doctor K
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
May 30 2009 02:50 GMT
#11
This write-up is sex.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
May 30 2009 03:00 GMT
#12
Interview win.
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
Profile Joined November 2008
United States190 Posts
May 30 2009 03:03 GMT
#13
doctor k interview was funny

riptide has been my favorite writer for a while now
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
May 30 2009 03:06 GMT
#14
lol interview

and somebody doesn't like JD >_<
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ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
May 30 2009 03:08 GMT
#15
Lmao, best of 50 on Battle Royale with BeSt and Bisu, ha ha.

I would give my life to hang out with BeSt in DT mode, lol...

Great write-up, thanks again!
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Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
May 30 2009 03:10 GMT
#16
Nice read. 10/10 for a BSG allusion
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Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
May 30 2009 03:11 GMT
#17
I don't think (P)Bisu is playing significantly better than (Z)Jaedong.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
May 30 2009 03:18 GMT
#18
NIce interview with dr. k. Best didn't even help that much
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RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
May 30 2009 03:21 GMT
#19
eew they beat up zergs? eew i dont want to be in their team anymore =( (plus the fact that i sux bad xD) but anyway... SKT FIGHTING!!!
(cant imagine BeSt drunk LOL! xD)
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Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
May 30 2009 03:38 GMT
#20
rofl brrutal stuff inside SK
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 03:43:22
May 30 2009 03:43 GMT
#21
I'm just hoping that what you say about JD slumping is a complete lie... It's never going to happen! NOT EVER! /fanboy
hype[NZ]
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Japan412 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 03:48:40
May 30 2009 03:43 GMT
#22
Very nice article. I think that the battle for the sixth playoff spot is going to be quite intense. I'm hoping that Stars can make it but it's going to be tight.

The "the win percentages of each team broken down by the length of matches they played." statistics were particularly interesting. Although obviously you can't really draw concrete conclusions from such data, there are definately some interesting things in there:

• KTF 0/3 in matches that "went 5" ... wow
• Hwaseung 0/1 in matches that "went 4" and 2/2 matches that "went 5" -> not surprising considering how much the term "Jaedong Oz" is thrown around.

It is amusing (but definately not statistically acceptable ) to compare teams that had a high win percentage in matches that "went 4" to teams that have depth in players, although immediately CJ stands out as an exception to this.

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97.1% fanboys will nerd rage about these statistics.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
May 30 2009 03:45 GMT
#23
Best interview ever!
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Hong Kong4685 Posts
May 30 2009 03:50 GMT
#24
CJ vs. SKT1 final would be awesome. Hoping SKT knocks OZ off first place.
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Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
May 30 2009 03:52 GMT
#25
That interview was awesome, lol
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United States1503 Posts
May 30 2009 03:56 GMT
#26
Great job Riptide. Keep up the awesome work. Let me know if you need anything.
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Profile Joined April 2009
United States830 Posts
May 30 2009 03:58 GMT
#27
hahah hilarious interview
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Baa?21242 Posts
May 30 2009 04:01 GMT
#28
Great post, great interview, great write-up ^^
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Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
May 30 2009 04:06 GMT
#29
What I'm interested in is the playoffs Bo7 format. I sincerely doubt they'd actually let six players play six different 1v1s. Otherwise, it would suck if a team like Oz wins the regular season but the team makeup make it absolutely crap in the finals.
Meh
Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
May 30 2009 04:12 GMT
#30
The Doctor.K interview is still making me giggle, and I read the whole post. :D
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
JitNik
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation134 Posts
May 30 2009 04:37 GMT
#31
cj entus wins cup this year

its been written
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 30 2009 04:38 GMT
#32
Fantastic article to start off this season, the BSG reference makes it even better
Thanks a lot for volunteering to do Proleague news, and thanks also to heyoka for taking over the R&S thread!

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Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Philippines578 Posts
May 30 2009 05:00 GMT
#33
Wow! I wanna see that Flog the Zerg game.

Go CJ!
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 30 2009 05:09 GMT
#34
rofl
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 30 2009 05:14 GMT
#35
oh god the interview is sooo good
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Profile Joined February 2009
United States103 Posts
May 30 2009 05:20 GMT
#36
jaedong wins proleague cup, gogogo. he needs to win osl or msl or gom and the proleague for his team and he'll be the man
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
May 30 2009 05:44 GMT
#37
The whole "jaedong is slumping" angle is definitely iffy.

It is true though, that Bisu showed better results in round 4 than Jaedong.
stet_tcl
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Greece319 Posts
May 30 2009 06:26 GMT
#38
Epic writeup!

JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 30 2009 06:26 GMT
#39
This is a sick writeup. Thanks guys!

Love the Doctor.K interview lol
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Singapore6164 Posts
May 30 2009 06:47 GMT
#40
On May 30 2009 11:33 QuickStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 11:23 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
Awesome (P)Doctor.K interview.


thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
May 30 2009 07:08 GMT
#41
On May 30 2009 11:23 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
Awesome (P)Doctor.K interview.


I hope SKT1 gets the #1 spot to secure themselves a spot in the grand final.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
May 30 2009 07:09 GMT
#42
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFL THAT INTERVIEW AHAHAHA.
Are you fucking serious?
Anyone confirm this is not just made up out of the (probably drugged up if so) author of the OP?!
If it's no fake then its the best fucking interview I ever read.
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOFL @ Best-DT, ROOOOOOOOOFL @ beating up Zergs, ROOOOOOOOOOOOFL @ Bisu Bo50 on Battle Royal, LOL the kid even practices when he's fucking drunk as fuck. ROBOTMODE YO! XDDDDDDD ahahaha loool
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
May 30 2009 07:24 GMT
#43
On May 30 2009 11:14 Kerotan wrote:
Oh wow, my head just exploded from an aneurysm induced by stats porn.

I really think that T1 or CJ have the best chance of taking the title, unless it comes down to T1's zergs, who are just not up to scratch.

lol me too.
sad to see ktf so low..
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Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
May 30 2009 07:25 GMT
#44
'Coach Choi walked in with three hundred and eighty bananas, and I knew it wasn't going to end up well.'

LMAO - wonderfully detailed and witty write up - thanks for a great read.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
May 30 2009 08:05 GMT
#45
Omg Dorothy looks evil o_o

also, nice writeup
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barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
May 30 2009 08:12 GMT
#46
Wow... For few minutes I actually believed that its an interview and that they beat their zerg players with keyboards.
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Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
May 30 2009 08:20 GMT
#47
omg that Doc.K interview was absolutely awesome : ) It should be a reference of the current SKT
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 08:26:38
May 30 2009 08:25 GMT
#48
On May 30 2009 11:23 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
Awesome (P)Doctor.K interview.


but you missed a lot, like you dont even mention Hiya when you talk about OZ, and you dont reflect how ridicoulus ace matches happened this round, ZvZs you wont expect even in normal rounds (Hogil vs Thezerg) decided matches like SKT vs Hite.
And i dont know about JD slumping he had a short bad period in April. Now we're almost in June.

But well done otherwise.
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 30 2009 09:14 GMT
#49
First of all:
GREAT GREAT read and very good work man.
Thanks !!!!

but i spotted a small mistake
You said Oz went 6-5. But according to this:
On May 30 2009 10:52 riptide wrote:
[image loading]

97.1% fanboys will nerd rage about these statistics.


Oz went 5-6.
38% of 8 = 3
0 % of 1 = 0
100% of 2 = 2
3+0+2=5 wins



but hehe it doesnt matter! good article !!!!!!
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
May 30 2009 09:17 GMT
#50
holy shit, one of the best writeups i had read lately.
thanks~
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
May 30 2009 09:39 GMT
#51
EPIC banner.

I didnt even read the article yet
BW fighting!
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 30 2009 09:49 GMT
#52
Best write up in a long long time, great job riptide
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banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
May 30 2009 10:00 GMT
#53
Epic interview, imagine if it was true, ahahaha.
barbahaba0
Profile Joined January 2009
Israel226 Posts
May 30 2009 10:00 GMT
#54
do you have the original interview in korean?
game over dude .... game over!!!!
Makhno
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Sweden585 Posts
May 30 2009 10:30 GMT
#55
Lol, these kinds of write-ups are so welcome from time to time, keep at it!
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Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
May 30 2009 10:47 GMT
#56
im instantly turning skt fan if this interview is going to be true...

could never imagine flash and lux having this much fun.
only the jangbi - stork - connection could (actually can;-)) compete with this
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
animus123
Profile Joined January 2009
United States171 Posts
May 30 2009 10:53 GMT
#57
creative interview.

Could definitely tell a T1 Fanboy wrote the article though.....
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
May 30 2009 10:55 GMT
#58
Great interview. :p Nice preview!
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eci
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany45 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 11:34:29
May 30 2009 11:32 GMT
#59
good write up! but...

pie charts are from the devil !!
use comparative bar charts next time pie charts are so f* useless

seriously
Vorwaerts!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 30 2009 11:36 GMT
#60
Awesome post!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
NiTenIchiRyu
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom273 Posts
May 30 2009 11:50 GMT
#61
That interview was awesome!
CJ fighting !
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
May 30 2009 12:22 GMT
#62
On May 30 2009 10:52 riptide wrote:

[image loading]
Quite simple, isn't it?




Shouldnt that say 5 (FIVE) round robin rounds?
Arent we going into the FIFTH round?

I = confused. ...help
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ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 14:52:46
May 30 2009 14:20 GMT
#63
On May 30 2009 18:14 MasterReY wrote:
First of all:
GREAT GREAT read and very good work man.
Thanks !!!!

but i spotted a small mistake
You said Oz went 6-5. But according to this:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 10:52 riptide wrote:
[image loading]

97.1% fanboys will nerd rage about these statistics.


Oz went 5-6.
38% of 8 = 3
0 % of 1 = 0
100% of 2 = 2
3+0+2=5 wins



but hehe it doesnt matter! good article !!!!!!

It should be 50% on the 'went 3' by my calculations. They went 3-0 over Fox, KTF, Ace and MBC. and went 0-3 against Stars, SK T1, CJ and eSTRO(!).
Also, MBC should be 25% in the 'went 3' department. They beat Stars 3-0 and lost all games against SKT, Oz and KTF (and Flash didn't even play).

eSTRO actually finished this round in 6th place with Fox and Stars tied for last (despite Stars winning 3 of their first 4 games and Fox winning their first two).
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Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
May 30 2009 14:25 GMT
#64
Nice read

Go KTF, you can make it!
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Meretricious
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada161 Posts
May 30 2009 15:39 GMT
#65
LOL AT THE INTERVIEW HAHAHA
I thought it was real for a second there xD
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 30 2009 15:56 GMT
#66
Poor thezerg rumble and s2..
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 30 2009 16:05 GMT
#67
Jaedong slumping??? Dude, he's 9-1 last 10. This pisses me off so much -_- His overall win% isn't even 70%, 7-3 should be above average performance. 9-1 means that he's playing at his best.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
May 30 2009 16:35 GMT
#68
oh this post is gold! And the reference to Battlestar Galactica was awesome.

I can't wait to see who qualifies for the 6th playoff spot. XD
pewny
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden27 Posts
May 30 2009 17:15 GMT
#69
best interview ever! ;D
END = AND
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
May 30 2009 17:20 GMT
#70
sweet interview, and a nice piece of stats overall, thanks
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
May 30 2009 19:52 GMT
#71
Pro analysis. Team Liquid staff owns hardcore
perfecting the art of five pool forever
Burre
Profile Joined September 2008
Sweden154 Posts
May 30 2009 20:16 GMT
#72
On May 31 2009 04:52 JohnBall wrote:
Pro analysis. Team Liquid staff owns hardcore


I agree wholeheartedly. Writeups like these are what makes TL the best site out there. Thank you so very much.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
May 30 2009 22:17 GMT
#73
Nice write-up!
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Canada166 Posts
May 31 2009 00:02 GMT
#74
Great Write-up.

LOL Flash's team is 0% in Ace matches, I thought I wouldn't have seen the day.....
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
May 31 2009 01:16 GMT
#75
Saw the picture before I read the title. The picture alone got me thinking of BSG Nice reference.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 31 2009 01:26 GMT
#76
On May 30 2009 23:20 ThunderGod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 18:14 MasterReY wrote:
First of all:
GREAT GREAT read and very good work man.
Thanks !!!!

but i spotted a small mistake
You said Oz went 6-5. But according to this:
On May 30 2009 10:52 riptide wrote:
[image loading]

97.1% fanboys will nerd rage about these statistics.


Oz went 5-6.
38% of 8 = 3
0 % of 1 = 0
100% of 2 = 2
3+0+2=5 wins



but hehe it doesnt matter! good article !!!!!!

It should be 50% on the 'went 3' by my calculations. They went 3-0 over Fox, KTF, Ace and MBC. and went 0-3 against Stars, SK T1, CJ and eSTRO(!).
Also, MBC should be 25% in the 'went 3' department. They beat Stars 3-0 and lost all games against SKT, Oz and KTF (and Flash didn't even play).

eSTRO actually finished this round in 6th place with Fox and Stars tied for last (despite Stars winning 3 of their first 4 games and Fox winning their first two).



I was going off a hand recorded sheet of match lists, I must have had one backwards. Thundergod is correct, Oz went 4-4 and MBC went 1-3 in those categories. I'll fix the chart.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 31 2009 01:35 GMT
#77
On May 30 2009 21:22 Danka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 10:52 riptide wrote:

[image loading]
Quite simple, isn't it?




Shouldnt that say 5 (FIVE) round robin rounds?
Arent we going into the FIFTH round?

I = confused. ...help

Doh, two typos in that picture =/ "Staring" and "four"

you are correct there are 5 rounds

On May 31 2009 01:05 Shikyo wrote:
Jaedong slumping??? Dude, he's 9-1 last 10. This pisses me off so much -_- His overall win% isn't even 70%, 7-3 should be above average performance. 9-1 means that he's playing at his best.

This probably isn't serious its more likely a stab at JWD's powerrank
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SoulMarine
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States586 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-31 03:13:02
May 31 2009 03:11 GMT
#78
Please Sparkyz you MUST own.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4640 Posts
May 31 2009 03:23 GMT
#79
On May 30 2009 16:09 iNfeRnaL wrote:
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFL THAT INTERVIEW AHAHAHA.
Are you fucking serious?
Anyone confirm this is not just made up out of the (probably drugged up if so) author of the OP?!
If it's no fake then its the best fucking interview I ever read.
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOFL @ Best-DT, ROOOOOOOOOFL @ beating up Zergs, ROOOOOOOOOOOOFL @ Bisu Bo50 on Battle Royal, LOL the kid even practices when he's fucking drunk as fuck. ROBOTMODE YO! XDDDDDDD ahahaha loool

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huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
May 31 2009 07:07 GMT
#80
How could you mention Leta without Flash in the top gun section-- Flash is only 1 win behind!
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France1378 Posts
May 31 2009 07:43 GMT
#81
I laughed hard reading this post. TL writers own.
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Korea (South)4667 Posts
May 31 2009 08:02 GMT
#82
lol
the doctor.k interview made me lol
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sh02hp0869
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden460 Posts
May 31 2009 09:59 GMT
#83
There are of course those who will like to point out that Lee Jaedong is in a slump?

When did u write this JD is like 16-4 or something if people thinks he is in a slump then I wonder how he plays when hes not.
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
May 31 2009 12:08 GMT
#84
JD in a slump? wtf?
SoulMarine
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States586 Posts
May 31 2009 15:23 GMT
#85
I'm going to go DT mode.
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Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
May 31 2009 17:34 GMT
#86
DT mode!!!
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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 01 2009 04:59 GMT
#87
Hahaha that interview was great

Thanks a bunch riptide! Great writeup!

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Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
June 01 2009 05:28 GMT
#88
KTF: I want to believe!

Hopefully, Flash and Violet can lead KTF to get 6th spot. 815 instead of Luxury till he stops slumping, add HoeJJa with his cute tricks (but god save HoeJJa for going for a late game!) and we have a decent team that should be challenge to any team in proleague.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 01 2009 14:36 GMT
#89
Hopefully KTF will fail in proleague :D then Flash can focus on OSL / MSL
:)
korean7793
Profile Joined January 2009
United States61 Posts
June 02 2009 13:17 GMT
#90
hilarious interview xD
go cj! :D
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
June 06 2009 19:20 GMT
#91
On May 30 2009 16:09 iNfeRnaL wrote:
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFL THAT INTERVIEW AHAHAHA.
Are you fucking serious?
Anyone confirm this is not just made up out of the (probably drugged up if so) author of the OP?!
If it's no fake then its the best fucking interview I ever read.
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOFL @ Best-DT, ROOOOOOOOOFL @ beating up Zergs, ROOOOOOOOOOOOFL @ Bisu Bo50 on Battle Royal, LOL the kid even practices when he's fucking drunk as fuck. ROBOTMODE YO! XDDDDDDD ahahaha loool


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