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b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
March 07 2009 21:31 GMT
#321
can we invite Sea[shield] back?
BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
March 07 2009 22:01 GMT
#322
Why exactly is F91 NOT considered a foreigner??
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
March 07 2009 22:13 GMT
#323
On March 08 2009 06:31 b3h47pte wrote:
can we invite Sea[shield] back?

So we can get rid of this "Chinese zerg?"
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
March 07 2009 22:27 GMT
#324
Apparently F91 and Strelok were tied on Tau Cross, and no one won the second game .
Super serious.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-07 22:35:59
March 07 2009 22:34 GMT
#325
On March 08 2009 07:01 BisuBoi wrote:
Why exactly is F91 NOT considered a foreigner??


Because then europeans and americans who consider themselves good would lose there ranking .
+ Show Spoiler +
just joking




China has its own league and scene they are pro's in all reality. With the lag issues that seperate china and russia from the rest of the world (most of the time) we just have very seperate communities.

Nony better train at least some games with no lan lat and/or extra high latency to make sure his micro and storm timing aren't off. oystein played f91 is severe lag a few weeks back and he still teched muta and sniped temps like nothing.

Also his builds were 3 hat muta -> 5 hat pure hydra. and 9poolspeed -> 2 hat muta. With lag it is impossible to dodge scourge with sairs.

I don't know if you guys realize but f91 does use lag to his advantage.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7637 Posts
March 07 2009 22:49 GMT
#326
On March 08 2009 05:03 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2009 04:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
People should stop emphasizing the whole "Korea" thing. You have to realize that F91 and other top foreign pros aren't just people who play this casually, there's a reason they're called "pros:" they also spend 8+ hours a day practicing, and Lx and Pj used to be on Korean B-teams also, and they're on the same level as F91. Idra had the fabled "Korean training" but still couldn't hold a candle to F91, and he's an ACTIVE Korean B-teamer, as opposed to Nony who recently (retired?)

Just because someone's in Korea doesn't mean they're better or have more experience. No one can deny that as a nation, Korea is vastly superior to anyone else at Starcraft. But that doesn't mean that if someone went to Korea, they'd magically inherit the abilities of S-class gamers...

Um, no ones chalking improvement to the magical aura of being in Korea. They're chalking it up to following strict training regiments on a professional StarCraft team. That's much different than being an amatuer.


It has yet to be proven that the korean approach to starcraft actually works with non-koreans.

There are amatuers that are better then any of the players who have been or are in korea also.

I agree with you sheep. People need to quit overrating the korean experience. Now nony is a different story then idra anyway, he went to korea as one of the best outside of korea anyway. I'm sure we will see more map dependent results then we have seen so far in nony vs f91.

Good Luck Nony!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 07 2009 23:11 GMT
#327
I want vods :/
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
March 07 2009 23:11 GMT
#328
F91 vs Nony 4:0 (4:1 with some luck)
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
March 07 2009 23:17 GMT
#329
On March 08 2009 08:11 ahswtini wrote:
I want vods :/


ETA on VODs?
BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
March 07 2009 23:21 GMT
#330
On March 08 2009 07:34 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2009 07:01 BisuBoi wrote:
Why exactly is F91 NOT considered a foreigner??


Because then europeans and americans who consider themselves good would lose there ranking .
+ Show Spoiler +
just joking




China has its own league and scene they are pro's in all reality. With the lag issues that seperate china and russia from the rest of the world (most of the time) we just have very seperate communities.

Nony better train at least some games with no lan lat and/or extra high latency to make sure his micro and storm timing aren't off. oystein played f91 is severe lag a few weeks back and he still teched muta and sniped temps like nothing.

Also his builds were 3 hat muta -> 5 hat pure hydra. and 9poolspeed -> 2 hat muta. With lag it is impossible to dodge scourge with sairs.

I don't know if you guys realize but f91 does use lag to his advantage.


Ah that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
TheAZNChineseTiger
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada92 Posts
March 07 2009 23:49 GMT
#331
does anyone know when the VODs r gonna be posted?
SlayerS_`BoxeR` FTW
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
March 08 2009 00:07 GMT
#332
so nony is the next challenger and chill and artosis are going to cast?

that's wicked. TL is pretty damn impressive, first they get idra to play in an ultimate showdown against f91, and then a month later they get the other recent progamer nony to play.

thanks so much for organizing this guys
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-08 00:33:18
March 08 2009 00:33 GMT
#333
On March 08 2009 04:50 Pheel0 wrote:
Nony should totally win this one, because c'mon, I think he definitely has more experience than f91, after being in Korria & stuff.


Idra?
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
March 08 2009 00:39 GMT
#334
On March 08 2009 09:33 mmdmmd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2009 04:50 Pheel0 wrote:
Nony should totally win this one, because c'mon, I think he definitely has more experience than f91, after being in Korria & stuff.


Idra?

QFT. I think NonY is the last foreigner (other than maybe Mondragon) who has a realistic shot at taking down F91. If he fails, we be watching F91 on Liquibition for a long time .
Super serious.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
March 08 2009 00:47 GMT
#335
If Nony falls, send in ret.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
March 08 2009 00:56 GMT
#336
What's the ETA on Vods, and also F91 v Nony?
TranslatorBaa!
hazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom570 Posts
March 08 2009 01:00 GMT
#337
if nony fails send in TOAD
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
March 08 2009 01:08 GMT
#338
On March 08 2009 09:39 Centric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2009 09:33 mmdmmd wrote:
On March 08 2009 04:50 Pheel0 wrote:
Nony should totally win this one, because c'mon, I think he definitely has more experience than f91, after being in Korria & stuff.


Idra?

QFT. I think NonY is the last foreigner (other than maybe Mondragon) who has a realistic shot at taking down F91. If he fails, we be watching F91 on Liquibition for a long time .

like mog87 says, i'd assume a really well practiced ret would have a shot
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
March 08 2009 01:09 GMT
#339
vOdS
Calvinbobo
Profile Joined June 2003
China90 Posts
March 08 2009 01:48 GMT
#340
On March 08 2009 07:34 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2009 07:01 BisuBoi wrote:
Why exactly is F91 NOT considered a foreigner??


Because then europeans and americans who consider themselves good would lose there ranking .
+ Show Spoiler +
just joking




China has its own league and scene they are pro's in all reality. With the lag issues that seperate china and russia from the rest of the world (most of the time) we just have very seperate communities.

Nony better train at least some games with no lan lat and/or extra high latency to make sure his micro and storm timing aren't off. oystein played f91 is severe lag a few weeks back and he still teched muta and sniped temps like nothing.

Also his builds were 3 hat muta -> 5 hat pure hydra. and 9poolspeed -> 2 hat muta. With lag it is impossible to dodge scourge with sairs.

I don't know if you guys realize but f91 does use lag to his advantage.


Just one mistake. F91 is the type of player who depends heavily on his micro. He can't control mutas well to take out SCVs or scourges if the lag is too severe. Terran players will have big advantage as they won't have to worry about F91's Muta harassment.
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