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errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
September 09 2008 06:16 GMT
#61
Calm down on the probabilities... They're doing what HotBid said, which was to add them since they're small and hence close to the true value anyway.
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
September 09 2008 06:25 GMT
#62
On September 09 2008 12:45 mmdmmd wrote:
I think I got WS BS BM combo ^^

Thank God I register an TL account a while back when there was an interesting topic on the forum... too bad it doesn't allow me to post immediately


ill be angry if you win one D:
Moonlight Shadow
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17018 Posts
September 09 2008 06:31 GMT
#63
Wait.


...it's past the announced time <_<

I'm refreshing TL.net like mad, but I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to see the results before I go to sleep
Moderator
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36383 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 06:49:50
September 09 2008 06:49 GMT
#64
On September 09 2008 15:31 Empyrean wrote:
Wait.


...it's past the announced time <_<

I'm refreshing TL.net like mad, but I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to see the results before I go to sleep

It's tomorrow.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
September 09 2008 07:00 GMT
#65
too many fatasses
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
September 09 2008 07:04 GMT
#66
It would be amazing if I won the small black. I'll even settle for the small white since I love CJ so much. I hope I won't be reduced to my 3rd choice though (large black, I think) because that would go to my brother
Culture
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada488 Posts
September 09 2008 07:15 GMT
#67
Sweet go Small shirts, cycling hardcore for years paid off for me.
pewpew
Profile Joined February 2008
United States132 Posts
September 09 2008 07:20 GMT
#68
I'll be at work T_T
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2749 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 09:10:40
September 09 2008 08:51 GMT
#69
How come europe only has 33 shirts, and USA 47?

edit: I did some statistics, and I think it has to do with the fact that usa has more contestants. But still i'm off substantial.

Also, contrary to my expectations: 0.43 of the europeans ordered a Large, vs 0.32 of the americans.
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
September 09 2008 09:49 GMT
#70
On September 09 2008 10:48 thunk wrote:
There's a disproportionate number of smalls. *something anthropogenic here*


Anthropogenic? That means "man-made". 0_o
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zuqbu
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany797 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 09:54:03
September 09 2008 09:51 GMT
#71
i'm reviving my savior mobile phone wallpapers to please the cj gods. with this support either i should win a shirt or savior the msl.

edit: my gf is already jealous because i don't have her picture set as a wallpaper but this "japanese guy" :D
o_O
Roxen000
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
1226 Posts
September 09 2008 10:01 GMT
#72
How does it work if we selected 'other' as the location? ;o
._.
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 10:07:15
September 09 2008 10:03 GMT
#73
On September 09 2008 15:16 errol1001 wrote:
Calm down on the probabilities... They're doing what HotBid said, which was to add them since they're small and hence close to the true value anyway.


Yep. For two shirts where p1 is probability of one shirt and p2 is probability of second shirt :

probability of win = 1- (1-p1)*(1-p2)

= p1 + p2 - p1*p2

so if p1*p2 << p1 + p2, then you can say probability ~ p1 + p2

For small probabilities this is pretty close. Say the odds are 10% for one shirt and 8% for a second shirt :

= 0.1 + 0.08 - (0.1 x 0.8)
= 0.1 + 0.08 - 0.008
= 0.172
= 17.2% chance of winning

if you just add them, you would have got 18%, which is pretty close.

If your odds are higher, though, say 50% for one shirt and 75% for a second shirt, then :

= 0.5 + 0.75 - (0.5 x 0.75)
= 0.5 + 0.75 - 0.375
= 0.875
= 87.5% chance of winning

If you just added them, you would have gotten 125% - the error is bigger. So long as the odds are small you can guess pretty closely just by adding.

Basically, you take your highest odds and then take a percentage of what's left after that. If what's left is almost 100%, then a small percent of it will be pretty close to a small percent of 100. If my odds of the first shirt are 5% and the second is 5%, then I take the first and say that I have at least a 5% chance of winning. I also have a 5% chance of winning with the 95% left, but 5% of 95% is pretty close to 5% of 100%, so you can just add. If it's 50% for both, then I have 50% chance of win on the first one and a 50% chance of the remaining 50%. Half of half is much less than half of a whole, though, so adding doesn't work, I get 100% instead of the correct 75%.
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iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
September 09 2008 10:43 GMT
#74
16 hours approximately~

the odds is pretty much slim to none, good luck to me ONLY!
Xellos <3
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
September 09 2008 11:56 GMT
#75
I am so not gonna get a shirt. =((( WL, BL, BM... -_-a
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
September 09 2008 12:07 GMT
#76
Being relatively small (~180cm) and thin has its benefits . My chances are pretty high but I never won anything, so I doubt this lottery will be any different .
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
Guss
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Sweden712 Posts
September 09 2008 12:38 GMT
#77
180 CM and i weigh 65kg

im praying for a black small
Bisu[Shield] FIGHTING!
HasU.T1
Profile Joined November 2006
Brazil7 Posts
September 09 2008 12:48 GMT
#78
O.o
I have a small chance, but i don´t quit!!!!! THANK`S TL
T.T
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
September 09 2008 12:52 GMT
#79
180cm is not really that small. Small is like <165cm, <60kg. I'd be amazed if a small would fit.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36383 Posts
September 09 2008 13:40 GMT
#80
On September 09 2008 19:01 Roxen000 wrote:
How does it work if we selected 'other' as the location? ;o

The "other" people were divided 50-50 between Europe and America, it's random.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
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