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United States20661 Posts
2008 ShinHan Bank Proleague Grand Final9 August 17:00 KST
Once again, another ProLeague final. KHAN is here, to no one's surprise. Their consistency across the seasons is quite awesome. Featuring FBH, Jangbi, and Stork under the watchful guidance of Coach January, the Samsung team has been heading PL rankings for season after season.
The OGN kids, after early season struggles, played the maximum number of matches to reach the ultimate stage. After a thrilling seven-setter against T1, they are ready to attempt Lecaf's feat from last year.
The inaugural match between Samsung’s battle-tested KHAN squad and the re-emergent KOR/OGN team pits the untested ZvT of Hades against the mediocre TvZ of Leta. Not a particularly crowd-drawing matchup – Leta’s most interesting TvZ was a humiliating loss against YellOw’s 2001 guardian/hydra army composition, whereas Hades hasn’t logged a single ZvT in the majors.
That being said, Hades went undefeated in the minors ZvT before his promotion, defeating WeMade’s Baby and KTF’s Barracks. Leta dispatched sAviOr earlier this year in a straightforward dismantling on Andromeda – something even Sea[Shield] failed to do in France. I’d give Leta the slight tip due to his experience, but since we’ve seen so little of Hades, anything could happen.
The teams’ respective aces face off on the Zerg-friendly Andromeda. Luxury’s been posting superior results recently, but the Dinosaur has not yet fossilized. Stork will most likely try to make it a drawn macro game by taking his three bases early; Luxury will either play aggressively as he did against Best or take six multis following more conventional lines of play.
I foresee Luxury winning simply because of the map, but since Stork’s been practicing to snipe a Zerg on Andro, he might win. Let’s just hope it doesn’t take two hours and involve defilers on both sides. I’m predicting the Sparkyz to take an early 2-0 lead.
Two of the preeminent teamplay squads go at it on Hannibal. As it goes with 2v2, every game looks different (unless it’s on DMZ). TT/Jihyun have posted more wins, but Zeus/Yarnc have the better win ratio and superior recent performance. Nevertheless, I’m going with the Samsung boys on this one. Call it a hunch. Or a pure, complete hatred of That Bastard Fake YellOw.
Get out, Myungsoo.
The most annoying player against the ugliest player on the TvT borehouse Wuthering – it’s at these times I most miss Goodfriend and XellOs. We take what we can get, though, and these two players have shown their TvT strength in the past season. Firebathero is the better player, and in such a skill-based matchup, the better player will usually take it.
We’ll have to endure another Sungeun ceremony. Cheers.
Chalrenge is damn lucky, and Jangbi is damn unlucky. In this matchup, luck matters quite a bit. Nevertheless, Jangbi is the reputed king of Samsung’s team inters, whereas Chalrenge’s ceremonies far outshine his actual performance. Rays of Jangbi’s brilliance have broken through his shell of nervousness, making him one of today’s eminent executors. Chalrenge is still a mediocre Protoss who’s had a few pies smashed in his face.
Jangbi is at least two tiers above Chalrenge. Chalrenge won’t be able to take out two S-class Protosses in a row. Nobody’s that damn lucky.
Flower and Juni are the more established 2v2 players of these four. As it’s Hunters, starting positions play a huge factor in what happens – it’s hard to overcome a team that gets both bottom left positions if you and your teammate are crossmap. Flower/Spear have had good chemistry these past two seasons, though, so I’d trust them to take it to the closer.
Luxury is almost definitely the Ace card for the Sparkyz, though KHAN has more options. Jangbi and Stork are both possibilities, and the map is fairly even PvZ. Firebathero might be sent as a sniper, but it’s less likely. Simply due to the fact KHAN has more options than OGN, they’re slightly advantaged – knowing this, the OGN boys might do something crazy. Like send Chalrenge. We’ll have to see.
Posit: If Frozean comes out in the Ace match and beats Luxury, will anyone offer to fellate a row of phalli?
Love and luck,
LR
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Hungary11296 Posts
Thanks for the preview! And yes, Andromeda could prove to be dastardly unentertaining if Stork pulls a GGplay again. Luxury in the main lineup might foreshadow someone else practicing to snipe the Samsung Aces.
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LETS GO OGN! You can do it!
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nice LR nice! and no way frozean will beat luxury...not possible
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On August 06 2008 05:35 Metal[x] wrote:
nice LR nice! and no way frozean will beat luxury...not possible
well that's what they said about him vs jaedong
and in sc, anything is possible, especially at the pro levels :o
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Been waiting for this! All the 1v1 match ups are really interesting and really could go either way. I hoped for FBH vs Go.go  Glad it came to be. Stork vs Lux for 2nd game is a pleasant surprise. Chalrenge's strategy against Bisu was brilliant and executed perfectly, Jangbi better watch out.
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On August 06 2008 05:41 raga4ka wrote:
If it goes to Ace i will be happy to see July takeing yet another title !!!!
err what?
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United States20661 Posts
On August 06 2008 05:40 Sunyveil wrote:WAIT YOU FORGOT between 3 set and 4 set + Show Spoiler +
I wish.
Zeus would stomp that so ez though.
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On August 06 2008 05:41 raga4ka wrote:
If it goes to Ace i will be happy to see July takeing yet another title !!!!
July is on STX dude -__-
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Chalrenge WILL defeat Jangbi. Just like go.go will defeat FBH. You read it here first.
And OGN will win. Quite easily in fact.
PS : Isn't go.go tied with Hiya for the ugliest player trophy?
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lol at Frozen beating Lux joke.
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United States20661 Posts
yeah go.go and Hiya have no right to be on TV
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On August 06 2008 05:41 raga4ka wrote:
If it goes to Ace i will be happy to see July takeing yet another title !!!!
How the hell did I miss this?
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I have to say, I don't consider Stork much of an Ace for Samsung anymore. I don't know how often Jangbi has gone ace in comparison to Stork this season, but it doesn't matter. Stork is not playing well lately, and Jangbi is. Jangbi is the most well rounded player on Khan, and hes getting more comfortable. I expect him to make up for any of his teamates faltering, and winning in ace if need be.
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Ehhh, I hope this goes to ACE match, so bad. I don't believe it will, but I can hope. =)
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United States17042 Posts
Awesome writeup. *crosses fingers for a jaedong chalrenge throwdown ace match w/ chalrenge doing something crazy to win*
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On August 06 2008 07:00 waterdragon wrote:
Awesome writeup. *crosses fingers for a jaedong chalrenge throwdown ace match w/ chalrenge doing something crazy to win*
as long as jaedong leaves lecaf and signs with samsung khan within the next few days, i dont think it will happen 
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well this doesn't look too bad. For the first time ever, I am rooting for Samsung.
Predictions:
Leta > Hades- I've never seen Hades play, but I think Leta has too much momentum atm.
Luxury < Stork- Stork had a crap load of time to prepare for this so he shouldn't lose to luxury
OGN < Khan- Really strong 2v2 teams, but OGNs lost recently.
Go.go < FBH- No win for you bug terran. FBH is a TvT monster
Chalrenge < Jangbi- He is too solid to lose to some 4 gate.
4-1 Khan- I can all of these games going either way except for FBH vs go.go. That should be a definate win
OGN > Khan- Never seen either team play
Ace- FBH vs Luxury- FBH has a killer TvZ and has recently beaten luxury on othello. OGN doesn't have a protoss to send in Ace, so FBH can take anyone who comes out.
Jangbi/Stork vs Luxury would be too risky for Khan unless Stork can pull of a decisive win on Andromeda.
FBH > Luxury if it gets to ace
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nice reading... for me doesnt matter who wins.. i hate gogo and FBH.. maybe a draw between both of them and a re match cancelled would be fine.. XD
maybe before the judgment day we will see a final between skt1 and ktf, meanwhile just throw pop- corns over the face of FBH and gogo its a good entertainment.
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I'd say that jangbi will lose if OGN is up 3-1 because his nerves will force his hands to twitch uncontrollably, somewhat like what happened versus backho. If he keeps his calm he should not lose though unless chalrenge does some random semi retarded build that he loves doing.
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good writeup thanks a bunch
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i kinda want to see storks defiler play.
and cant wait to see what fbh has instore for go.go
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As much of a samsung fanboy I am, I would have to say that OGN his an advantage because they carry a lot of momentum and the matchups are somewhat in their favor.
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Great writeup, LR  .
I can only hope for some nice games, for something entertaining to watch (ceremonies  ), etc. - neither of these teams are in my favorites  .
Damn, why SKT lost  ?
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Please OGN, anyone but Samsung.
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stork chokes.
fbh chokes.
jangbi gets nervous.
GG KHan aces
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Looking forward to the Lee's from each team ceremonies. Wouldnt mind some CCs by go.go either. Im expecting OGN to win.
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Hades < Leta
Hades sucks, Nuff said.
Stork < Luxury
Stork's PvZ was never his strong point. Now hes against a zerg on Andromeda, a zerg called Luxury nonetheless. Loss for stork.
Samsung > OGN
Samsung's 2v2 team looks more consistent, and Hannibal isin't as position imbalanced as Hunters. Win for Samsung
FBH > GoGo
Gah, both these players make me sick, but in the end, i hate GoGo more.
Jangbi > Chalrenge
Close, boring game where Jangbi edges it.
Samsung < OGN
Don't know much about these two teams, but i'll give it to OGN.
FBH < Chalrenge
FBH is sent in to snipe Luxury, but OGN send Chalrenge to snipe FBH. OGN wins the mind game ... again.
OGN Sparkyz 4 - Samsung Khan 3
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ACE match. Khan sends Hades. OGN spazzes out not knowing how to handle the surprise.
Khan wins
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
damn now i feel like i should've voted for OGN.
KOR FIGHTIHNG LOLOLZ DEFEAT THE EVIL DINOTOSS, DANCINGTERRAN, SOMEHOWFATTHENTURNEDTHINTOSS TEAM!
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I don't want to pretend to be better than January, so I don't know what the wrong moves really are, but if there ever was a RIGHT move, it was putting FBH in the fourth set. Should everything go wrong for KHAN, FBH is there to save the day.
I hate saying this because there is only one true Savior.
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Firebathero would make for an interesting ace, as would Jangbi. So long as Chal gets crushed however, I do not mind if either takes it.
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Hades > Leta
I hate Leta
Stork < Luxury
Stork sux
Samsung > OGN
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FBH > go.go
I want to see cool ceremony from FBH
Jangbi > Chalrenge
Samsung wins 4-1
die OGN!!
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Leta sent out to snipe FBH. >.>
OGN has met its match here; Samsung is equally made by being a team of aces.
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I don't know why, but I expect OGN to pull an upset even though Samsung has better players.
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Is it weird that i pronounce "Frozean" like "Frozy Anne?"
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(Z)Hades <Katrina SE> (T)Leta
(Sniper. Nuf said.)
(P)Stork <Andromeda> (Z)Luxury
(also, I would consider FBH the be the defacto ACE of KHAN currently)
(P)TT / (Z)JiHyun <Hannibal> (P)Zeus /(Z)YellOw[ArnC]
(YArnC sucks and him and Zeus fight as much as they work together, they can't do it)
(T)firebathero <Wuthering Heights> (T)go.go
(and I hope FBH does a ceremony because go.go is even more BM without being as fun!)
(P)JangBi <Colosseum> (P)Chalrenge
(JangBi needs to get back in his groove. I want him back in his groove! That said, if any of my 1v1 predictions are wrong, I think it will be this one)
(Z)Juni / (P)yoOn[s.g] <Hunters> (Z)Flower / (P)Spear
(Flower sucks, but Spear can hold his own and they have had good chemistry as pointed out in the OP)
Ace (oDin) <Blue Storm> Ace (Luxury)
(This requires one of my previous predictions to be wrong, but even still I hope that is the case. I hope it gets to Ace match because.. Well this is sort of a dream prediction, but hell: the map is Blue Storm so how about this: Luxury practices PvZ assuming his normal and ACE match will be against Stork or JangBi. Knowing this KHAN sends out oDin as a sniper with a sunk rush strat on this 2 player map. It will go down in history as the most epic final ever)
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On August 06 2008 05:40 Sunyveil wrote:WAIT YOU FORGOT between 3 set and 4 set + Show Spoiler +
Whats the predictions for this insane matchup?
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Canada7170 Posts
Still waiting for that row of cocks from before, RowdierBob.
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i may be embarrassing myself, but
what is a multi
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United States20661 Posts
A mining base. More often used by Koreans. I don't like using 'expo' since it's somewhat ambiguous whether or not the main/nat would count.
That being said multi has the same problems.
I have no idea what I'm saying anymore. Mining base just takes too long to type.
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On August 06 2008 18:24 tube wrote:
i may be embarrassing myself, but
what is a multi
an expansion
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FBH vs go.go!! The annoying dancer vs the most BM player in the ProLeague!! Niiice...
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United States3705 Posts
justin is gonna play ace match!
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On August 06 2008 14:16 bubblegumbo wrote:Whats the predictions for this insane matchup?
we need an lb entry for this asap.
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hades = by.great on the GSL he is not a sniper i think, he has a solid ZvT
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Hey Last Romantic you realize that since the change from BS 1.0 -> 1.2 that protoss > zerg 66% of the time right? hence it will likely be a tvp with ogn posting a terran and khan posting jangbi
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United States20661 Posts
OGN terrans? go.go or Leta? How dull.
If Jangbi is sent out in the Ace he's going to choke. He's only recently become a reliable all-around card; putting him in a pressure situation like that is going to send him into remission.
Danceoff liquibet up.
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Zeus is going to double nexus in someone's base, I can feel it
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hope ONG takes this I just can't stand Jangbi's face ...
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I really think that OGN can win 4 matches before ace rather easy, (Chalrenge will beat Jangbi, and i'm pretty confident in both of their 2v2)
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ace match will obviously be luxury vs. stork
samsung gogogo
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 07 2008 00:30 Last Romantic wrote:
OGN terrans? go.go or Leta? How dull.
If Jangbi is sent out in the Ace he's going to choke. He's only recently become a reliable all-around card; putting him in a pressure situation like that is going to send him into remission.
Danceoff liquibet up. True, but what other gamer on Khan has a shot on BlueStorm?
FBH? FBH vs go.go rematch?
Stork? slumping... i wouldn't trust him esp. seeing as he needs to prepare to destroy luxury
I dno who OGN will send... against soul they sent out Leta - who won (and who would be a good choice imo) and then against T1 they sent Shine there's no way theyre not going to send a terran out here... i think they realize that luxury will get eaten by both t and p
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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I believe SNSD will be performing before the matches start. Yay for TV, streams are just terrible. Stay up till 5a.m. :D
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"Stork also is accountable for all three of the Ace match losses." lol )
Jangbi for ace!
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i heard the game will be delayed 2 hours to 2 am pacific
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is someone going to make a Tourny topic any time soon??
from the commerical, I see WonderGirls will be there also for intro.
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anyone know of a good stream besides daum or yaoyuan? neither one of them work for me
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Leta will be the ace and the close will be Leta vs FBH
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OMG <3 SO NYEO SHI DAE PERFORMING
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