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Uraeus
Profile Joined February 2008
France1378 Posts
July 20 2008 13:51 GMT
#21
On July 20 2008 21:43 SilverSkyLark wrote:
I think ForGG needs to shape up his macro or at least his army control.

Improve his macro? No way he can. He already has the best macro among Terrans, and arguably the best macro in the proscene.
His army control has a lot of room for improvement though. His micro is less terrible now, but still far from good.
If Jaedong is clearly the favourite here, I wouldn't count fOrGG out too fast. Being team mates, they must know each other's build very well, and fOrGG has showed he can adapt his opponent.
I expect great games from these guys, and hope for a crazy comeback by whoever you want, so some conspiracy theorists can make a whole thread about explaining how/why the games were rigged.
And I don't care who wins, because either the MSL goes to LECAF!!!
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bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
July 20 2008 14:48 GMT
#22
Can't wait for retarded conspiracy theorists posting about ForGG throwing games for Jaedong
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 20 2008 16:08 GMT
#23
the names in the banner should be reversed... someone who isn't really into the pro scene will think forgg is jaedong and the other way around.

btw forgg fighting!
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
July 20 2008 16:11 GMT
#24
good writeup!

just two quick comments:
1st, like jhNz said, switch the two names around on the banner
2nd, darkhorses? what about Mind in S4?
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 16:55:15
July 20 2008 16:30 GMT
#25
what the fuck...jarhead wrote a news entry? and it's a MSL final preview/predictions article? did i wake up in bizarro world?

seriously though, nice writeup pitseleh. s2 i was only kidding! oh and yeah jaedong is just waaaaaaaaaaay the hell too good for forGG, and has experience playing in the Finals. my prediction is, 3-1
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
July 20 2008 16:31 GMT
#26
On July 21 2008 01:11 LosingID8 wrote:
good writeup!

just two quick comments:
1st, like jhNz said, switch the two names around on the banner
2nd, darkhorses? what about Mind in S4?

Ah! How could I forget about Mind? I'll add him immediately.

Concerning the banner: I didn't make, nor have the skill or ability to edit it. Even if I did it's pachi's work so I wouldn't tamper with it and I think it look's despite a slight imperfection.
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
July 20 2008 16:34 GMT
#27
I think Jaedong will rape the shit out of poor forGG. However it would be more interesting if forGG could steal a game or two. We will see, I predict 3-0.
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
July 20 2008 16:37 GMT
#28
On July 20 2008 20:59 arb wrote:
i seem to remember people saying July didnt have a chance either..

ForGG 3-2 eZ

Yes, well July has been a contender in the scene for years and everyone knows he can be a dangerous opponent any place and any time. So he doesn't really count does he? The players mentioned rose out of obscurity to be great, July was already great.
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 17:01:59
July 20 2008 16:55 GMT
#29
ForGG will win 3-1, losing the first set.


On October 10 2007 06:59 Hot_Bid wrote:
[*]If ForGG ever learns how to properly micro, watch out. His macro is like he listens to a subliminal "we require more minerals" message every night while he sleeps. It is funny how many units he makes and even funnier how many he then loses with sloppy control. He is already good enough to be a solid Proleague contributor (10-8), and if he learns how to use those blobs of units he makes, he could be a champion


I think that he will learn how to use his units
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
July 20 2008 18:43 GMT
#30
JD will rape imo, but as you said Forgg had to beat a lot of powerehouses to get there so we never know ...

nice write up
w/e
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
July 20 2008 19:17 GMT
#31
I hope this will be epic since this is a teammate finals! My prediction would be forGG 3-1!
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Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
July 20 2008 19:22 GMT
#32
Nice writeup, DeadVessel , thank you very much .

In my opinion Jaedong will win this series with straight 3-0 or if not - 3-1 (dropping the game on Tiamat) . Even if ForGG manages to hold until game 5 (wins on Tiamat and Athena) - he will lose it, because of the great pressure .
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
July 20 2008 20:51 GMT
#33
I think ForGG will take it in 5 because they are teammates and the map pool is T>Z
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obloquy
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States265 Posts
July 20 2008 23:39 GMT
#34
I'm REALLY looking forward to this. I just hope it's not one-sided, like July and Best.
That was an unknown unknown.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
July 21 2008 01:13 GMT
#35
Where did you get that picture of Jaedong? It looks like he's performing a magic trick...to steal the MSL trophy. Actually, is there an MSL trophy?
Jaedong
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
July 21 2008 02:42 GMT
#36
On July 20 2008 19:17 fredd wrote:
ForGG looks rather retarded on the main banner


so does jaedong
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
July 21 2008 03:52 GMT
#37
if ForGG manages to shape up his army micro then he get can a game off Jaedong (like mass resotration on plagued uniits, or mass dmatrix), then he can proxy his 2 other games to victory. Hahaha, I'm looking forward to a close series.^^
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 21 2008 06:19 GMT
#38
forgg has looked really really good in his prevous games in this season. That being said, Jaedong has experience on his side, and forgg's lack of unit control should prove to be his downfall against everything from stop lurker to defending against muta.

3-1 jaedong
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c0stc0dud1
Profile Joined January 2008
United States144 Posts
July 21 2008 07:35 GMT
#39
Jaedong is a ZvT monster no doubt. His macro and multitasking is somewhat unmatchable, I pissed my pants when I watched his games against Hwasin and it somewhat tells me that any Terran that decides to go to a macro war against Jaedong will lose. I also think that Jaedong will anticipate proxy or cheese against ForGG since he knows that he will win if ForGG macros against him or anything.


I've seen Mind macro steamroll Jaedong...
Raiju
Profile Joined December 2007
Australia235 Posts
July 21 2008 07:44 GMT
#40
forGG better do something good 4 denying us Flash vs Jaedong.
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