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[MSL] Group A: Gotterdammerung

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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 18:11:23
May 06 2008 04:50 GMT
#1
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MSL Group A


With top representatives of the three races, plus cannon fodder in the form of a cuddly cherub, this group shaped up to be one of the best in the current MSL. The hype / live report thread can be found here, with an excellent OP by Aesop.

Set I
(Z)Jaedong vs (P)Bisu




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Despite hardware issues, Jaedong presented a dominant exposition in the debut game for Arena MSL, leading from start to finish. His early zerglings forced Bisu to think defensively, his hydralisks fended off the feared dark templar, and the mutalisks came just in time to block Kim’s dragoon/high templar assault.

From then on, the push against Bisu’s third followed by the one-two combination against main and natural ended the brutal, one-sided farce of a match. Many audience members may have expected a longer, closer match akin to their previous Blue Storm meeting, but instead saw a vicious rape.


Set II
(T)Hwasin vs (T)FrOzean




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FrOzean likes his cheese; Hwasin, knowing this, made a slightly early barracks. That sums up the entire progression of the game, as FrOzean was never able to catch up and Hwasin dispatched him at leisure. Aside from some cute wraith moves by FrOzean, this was a rather dull and uninspired game.

I am glad, though, that Hwasin prevailed.


Winners' Set
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Hwasin



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What could have been a great set was spoiled by Jaedong’s incredibly horrid mouse. You could tell his control was off all game, as his mutalisks failed to demonstrate their usual vigor and his lurkers were no problem, being above the land.

All in all a stupid game. Jaedong should have switched mice. Hwasin played standard – nothing spectacular – but Jaedong’s absolutely atrocious control would probably have let FrOzean win as well.

Losers' Set
(P)Bisu vs (T)FrOzean



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Lacklustre performance by Bisu meets even worse by Frozean. Bisu’s PvT showed none of its GOM-2 form, but Frozean’s dawdling allowed Bisu to win a painfully drawn-out match.


Final Set
(Z)Jaedong vs (P)Bisu



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Another ridiculous stompfest, as Jaedong’s zerg proves way too much for Bisu to handle. The scout lings, the muta-scourge control, the hydra sniping, everything was just perfectly done with Jaedong’s new Logitech Optical Mini. The only thing missing was a successful shuttle kill; if one more hit impacted then that would have been quite amazing.

As it is, Bisu is once again eliminated from his first group, and the defending MSL champ moves on to the ro16.


Results

Jaedong > Bisu
Hwasin > Frozean
Hwasin > Jaedong
Bisu > Frozean
Jaedong > Bisu

(T)Hwasin and (Z)Jaedong advance.


The better players advanced. All is right with the world. The only regret is Jaedong vs Hwasin; without mouse issues it could have been a great game. A TvZ master and ZvT master on a new gas-heavy strategic-oriented map – a recipe for great games. Hopefully we'll be treated to it later on in MSL.

Love and luck,
LR
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
May 06 2008 05:00 GMT
#2
1st post, nice read.

I knew Bisu was going to get eliminated and liquibetted him anyways.

Hwsain finally gets wins because he shows homage to savior.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 05:03:54
May 06 2008 05:03 GMT
#3
Yes, Group A was a bit disappointing. Thought the BEST games of the MSL would be in Group A. But no problem, imo I think Group E was quite an exciting group! Not to say the games weren't horrendous, but they just weren't up to my expectations. Let's wait for Group B now ( 5 PvPs )
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
May 06 2008 05:03 GMT
#4
Ugh, Bisu follows the same fate as July...

Although I'm glad Hwasin advanced, I wish he could've won in a more spectacular fashion especially in Hwasin vs. Jaedong.
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
May 06 2008 05:11 GMT
#5
Kind of disappointing we didn't get a Bisu/Hwasin match. I wanted to see Hwasin stomp the living hell out of Bisu. As of right now "Insurance" Hwasin is playing a hell of a lot better than the "Revolutionist".

I do agree that the best players advanced.
I know where my towel is.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
May 06 2008 05:16 GMT
#6
Poor Bisu bit off way more than he could chew when he picked Jaedong in the group selection...
May the BeSt man win.
LightRailCoyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States982 Posts
May 06 2008 05:18 GMT
#7
great write-up! This should teach Bisu to act with a little more humility, as he got curbstomped by Jaedong 2x. Pwnt.

Question: i can't access the VODs on TL.Net, but if i d ouble click to open link, they work fine on youtube. Is this a continuation of Baezzi controversy?
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
May 06 2008 05:19 GMT
#8
On May 06 2008 14:18 LightRailCoyote wrote:
great write-up! This should teach Bisu to act with a little more humility, as he got curbstomped by Jaedong 2x. Pwnt.

Question: i can't access the VODs on TL.Net, but if i d ouble click to open link, they work fine on youtube. Is this a continuation of Baezzi controversy?


Yeah, embedding is still disabled ;p
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
May 06 2008 05:22 GMT
#9
Oh, yeah, forgot to mention thanks for the writeup! And yeah, that must suck sooooo bad for Bisu. He put himself in Much's place only to get pwned 2-0. Now he's 0-3 vs Jaedong huh? I would be very depressed if I were him
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w3jjjj
Profile Joined April 2007
United States760 Posts
May 06 2008 05:25 GMT
#10
funny thing is, if bisu didn't try to protect his teammate during selection, hwasin wouldn't be switched into his group, then JD 1st, and bisu might get 2nd and advance, o well, at least it was nice of him.
Chuck Norris can salvage his opponent's structures.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
May 06 2008 05:33 GMT
#11
Bisu played horribly, which is a depressing thing. Picking this group seemed like an attempt by him to get something going, it didn't work so well.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
May 06 2008 05:40 GMT
#12
I THINK the english COMMENTARY needs to be done on top of the audio for the Korean commentary, with the korean commentary slightly toned down in volume.

THIS will have the cheering and shit happening in the back, and also it'll have people screaming in the back. YOU NEED THAT in commentaries to make it epic. the ENGLISH commentary sounds so much less intense because there is no cheering in the back
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
May 06 2008 06:26 GMT
#13
On May 06 2008 14:40 Polyphasic wrote:
I THINK the english COMMENTARY needs to be done on top of the audio for the Korean commentary, with the korean commentary slightly toned down in volume.

THIS will have the cheering and shit happening in the back, and also it'll have people screaming in the back. YOU NEED THAT in commentaries to make it epic. the ENGLISH commentary sounds so much less intense because there is no cheering in the back

WHY are you CAPITALIZING random words IN your SENTENCES?

<hr>

Go Jaedong!
Hwasin is kind of meh, but I'm glad Jaedong didn't lose to Bisu.
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
May 06 2008 06:33 GMT
#14
No...Bisu T.T ;_;
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
May 06 2008 07:01 GMT
#15
On May 06 2008 15:33 Seraphim wrote:
No...Bisu T.T ;_;

muhahahaha

fuck revolution.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
May 06 2008 07:04 GMT
#16
not available? : <<<<<<<<<<
Bergkamp ftw!
kyjori
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
371 Posts
May 06 2008 07:33 GMT
#17
On May 06 2008 16:01 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2008 15:33 Seraphim wrote:
No...Bisu T.T ;_;

muhahahaha

fuck revolution.


yes yes, fuck the revolutionist...

now if only the sashin toss can advance from his all p group..
whyaregoonsretarded
Profile Joined May 2008
United States7 Posts
May 06 2008 08:36 GMT
#18
jaedong and hwasin are on fire, frozean is still a fruitangel, and bisu played like garbage. i wonder how he's gonna do in the osl.
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
May 06 2008 08:37 GMT
#19
glad jaedong made it despite some mouse trouble. showing why hes at the top of kespa rankings!
Moonlight Shadow
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
May 06 2008 09:44 GMT
#20
On May 06 2008 15:26 HnR)Insane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2008 14:40 Polyphasic wrote:
I THINK the english COMMENTARY needs to be done on top of the audio for the Korean commentary, with the korean commentary slightly toned down in volume.

THIS will have the cheering and shit happening in the back, and also it'll have people screaming in the back. YOU NEED THAT in commentaries to make it epic. the ENGLISH commentary sounds so much less intense because there is no cheering in the back

WHY are you CAPITALIZING random words IN your SENTENCES?

<hr>

Go Jaedong!
Hwasin is kind of meh, but I'm glad Jaedong didn't lose to Bisu.


haha what can i say, i'm a passionate person.
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
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