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Proleague Stats Report! - Week 14

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SonuvBob
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Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-09 05:00:00
January 09 2008 04:59 GMT
#1
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-Brought to you by Daigomi

Weekly Stats Report!

After fouteen weeks, 67 days of play, 132 matches, and 541 games, the proleague round-robin stage has finally come to a close. The play-off spots have been decided.

At the top of the log we find Lecaf, a team whose lowest position this proleague has been tied first; a team who lost their first match after nine matches. In second place is MBCGame HERO, coming back from a dreadful 1-3 start to finish the season 15-7. CJ will be disappointed with their third place finish (tied 15-7 with MBC, but losing on games) after holding second place or higher for eight consecutive weeks only to be passed in the last week of play. The final play-off spot goes to OGN, a team that has been consistently in the top four spots for the duration of the Proleague.

Looking back at the proleague it is interesting to see how this season has progressed, to note similarities, but also changes that occurred throughout this season. This week's update will look back to the start of the proleague (at least to the first spreadsheets I made), to see what how things have changed since the start of the proleague.

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+ Show Spoiler [24 October 2007] +
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Looking at the team standings we can see that not much has changed. Lecaf, OGN, and CJ have stayed at the top of the rankings from the start, and MBC quickly recovered from their bad start.

The two biggest changers on the team standings are KTF and Samsung. Samsung climbed six spots to fifth place, missing a spot in the play-offs with only one match, in contrast with this, KTF dropped five spots from a qualifying spot to end as one of the bottom four teams.

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+ Show Spoiler [24 October 2007] +
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Since the start of this proleague the maps have changed and evolved as players' grasp of the maps grow, and the effects of imbalances become more obvious. By looking at the changes in the statistics we can see how the players' perceptions about the maps have changed.

Baekmagoji has changed from a TvZ dominant map to a TvP/PvP map, with only three TvZs being played in the last three months, while 18 TvPs and 16 PvPs were played.

Blue Storm has changed from a Protoss dominated map (Protoss had a 69% winning percentage at the time the stats were first generated), to a Zerg dominated map (63% winning percentage at the end of the round-robin stage). In contrast, Protoss now only have a 48% winning percentage.

Katrina has remained a Protoss map throughout the season, with the only change being Zerg fairing much worse in the latter half of the season.

Un'goro Crater can be seen as the map that has changed the least since the start of the season. When the season started, everyone knew the map would be a TvZ battleground, and the map has remained well-balanced in that matchup throughout the season. No other matchup (except for the mirrors) were ever truly played on the map.

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+ Show Spoiler [7 November 2007] +
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In the 1v1 standings we see Anytime holding on to his position from the start of the season. The only other players that have remained on the list since the strat of the season are Sea and Luxury. Jaedong was on the list for a long time, and then dropped off the list for a long time- It was only in the penultimate week of the round-robin stage that Jaedong managed to join the list again. Kal was also a fixture on the top players list before a big losing streak caused him to drop from the list. It is only during the last week of the season that Kal has managed to get back onto the list.

Something that is interesting to note is the growth of the younger players this season: go.go, 815, Darkelf, and HiYa joined the list only in the second half of the season. While some of these players were known before the proleague started, few of them were well respected. As this season comes to a close now, there are not many experienced players that would confidently face the new proleague stars.

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+ Show Spoiler [7 November 2007] +
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In the 2v2 standings we see Justin and Flower has continue their domination from start to end. Not all teams were able to do this though, as Reach and Zergbong ended the proleague on a 6-7 score, losing their last five games in a row. Lake and Shudder were also unable to improve on their score, winning only one of their last four games, and while Much and Jy were unable to improve on their score (they didn't played together again) they rejoined the 2v2 standings this week, still sporting the same 3-0 score.

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Looking forward to the up-and-coming play-offs it is perhaps poignant to look at the results these teams have had playing each other as they prepare to face off again.

+ Show Spoiler [Previous Results] +

Lecaf Oz
0-3 vs MBCGame HERO
3-2 vs MBCGame HERO

3-1 vs CJ Entus
3-0 vs CJ Entus

1-3 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ
3-0 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ

MBCGame HERO
3-0 vs Lecaf Oz
2-3 vs Lecaf Oz

1-3 vs CJ Entus
3-1 vs CJ Entus

1-3 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ
3-2 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ

CJ Entus
1-3 vs Lecaf Oz
0-3 vs Lecaf Oz

3-1 vs MBCGame HERO
1-3 vs MBCGame HERO

3-2 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ
3-2 vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ

OnGameNet SPARKYZ
3-1 vs Lecaf Oz
0-3 vs Lecaf Oz

3-1 vs MBCGame HERO
2-3 vs MBCGame HERO

2-3 vs CJ Entus
2-3 vs CJ Entus

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The results are fairly equal and representative of the team's positions: Lecaf has done the best against its fellow quaifiers, beating them four times and losing only twice, while OGN has done the worse, winning only two of its matches and losing four. OGN has also lost its last three matches against the qualifiers, perhaps making them a slight underdog for the play-offs.

MBC has done well, taking a win from every qualifying team, and their depth might help them against the other teams in the BO7 setup of the play-offs. CJ has also won half their matches, but unlike MBC they did not manage to win a match against Lecaf but beat OGN twice. CJ also has a line-up with great depth, which could change their result against Lecaf should they face them again.

With that said, it is impossible to say what the play-off results will be. The changing format of the play-offs, as well as the inconsistent form shown by the teams, are sure to make the play-offs very unpredictable and exciting!

That is all there is for this week. I hope you have all enjoyed this week's look at the proleague, and that you are all looking forward to the play-offs as much as I am!

-Brought to you by Daigomi
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
January 09 2008 05:10 GMT
#2
nice read
thanks
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
January 09 2008 05:14 GMT
#3
Great job.

Thanks
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 09 2008 06:06 GMT
#4
I'm really surprised MBC got its act together. For a while it seemed like they couldn't win at all and their coach was putting in the wrong person for the ace match. I think the MBC coach wins the most 2v2 combos award. xD
RaiSad
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States325 Posts
January 09 2008 06:59 GMT
#5
CJ disappointed me!
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
January 09 2008 09:45 GMT
#6
Cj will pull through in the end!
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Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
January 09 2008 11:52 GMT
#7
Brilliant, I'm surprised Anytime hasn't been making a big name for himself in the StarLeagues, he completely pwned his matches.

good read thx!
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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
January 09 2008 11:59 GMT
#8
what is the playoff format?
how do the top 4 teams play each other??
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
January 09 2008 12:04 GMT
#9
3 Lions: Team 3 and 4 play against each other in a BO7 (1v1, 1v1, 2v2, 1v1, 1v1, 2v2, Closer), then the winner plays against Team 2, and the winner of those two plays against Team 1. So basically:

OGN vs CJ --> CJ wins (example)
CJ vs MBC --> MBC wins
MBC vs Lecaf --> MBC wins

MBC are champions.


This setup means that the top four teams all have a chance of winning the league, but the number one team has an easier road (as they only need to play one match, while the third and fourth teams need to play three matches).
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
January 09 2008 12:11 GMT
#10
Nice read
Thank you daigomi
CJ and MBC will win this PL
Anytime and Jaedong, unfortunately are enough to win only a BO5
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 09 2008 13:09 GMT
#11
CJ and lecaf!! :O i'm really starting to like lecaf now, even though they send same ppl over and over again haha.,

anyway, thanks again for the amazing proleague stats write ups :D:D::D OMG they're so interesting to read xD
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
January 09 2008 13:24 GMT
#12
Great read! Thanks a lot.
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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
January 09 2008 13:52 GMT
#13
Tx for the wrap ups it makes proleague so much easier to follow. =)
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FLaSh_[sdm]
Profile Joined October 2007
South Africa32 Posts
January 09 2008 13:57 GMT
#14
Thanks for a stunning read! Congrats on a monumental effort - the headaches were definitely worth it. Looking forward to play-offs. go CJ!
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
January 09 2008 15:17 GMT
#15
thanks.as always.keep up the good work!
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MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
January 09 2008 18:13 GMT
#16
fouteen weeks gone by already!

these playoffs will be sweet, I think CJ will win
hello there
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
January 09 2008 19:36 GMT
#17
why in the maps you are always forgetting monty hall SE, the old version was very imbalanced but this season it's a very good map !!!!! if they can play it a bit more.....

good work !!
NoSkill
Profile Joined January 2008
United States18 Posts
January 09 2008 21:28 GMT
#18
thanks for putting this together :D
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
January 09 2008 23:07 GMT
#19
On January 10 2008 04:36 trollbone wrote:
why in the maps you are always forgetting monty hall SE, the old version was very imbalanced but this season it's a very good map !!!!! if they can play it a bit more.....

good work !!


Interesting to note that in the first october chart:
2/20 (10%) games did not have a Terran in it, TvT (8/16) was 50% of the games and Terran had a 62.5% winrate against other races.

At the end of the season:
12/54 (22%) games did not have a Terran in it, Terran has 57% winrate and 39% of games were TvT.

Considering 78% of the games played on it by the end of the season had a Terran on it, clearly the Coaches have a different idea about the imbalanced status of the map.
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-10 01:52:44
January 10 2008 01:46 GMT
#20
it is perhaps poignant to look at the results these teams have had playing each other
Poignant??

edit: OK, I looked it up. Never heard that sense of the word before, but it's in the dic.
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Clumsy_plz
Profile Joined October 2007
Korea (South)22 Posts
January 10 2008 08:08 GMT
#21
Invincible Lecaf Oz

Anytime - Jaedong - Never_v_ - BackHo[white]

Who's next?
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-10 09:55:39
January 10 2008 09:29 GMT
#22
I wouldn't really call BackHo invincible. I'd think Lecaf's strongest players, in order, are:

Jaedong, Anytime, ForGG (Never), HiYa and then BackHo/Lomo.

if you compare that to the other teams in the playoffs:

Sea, Bisu, Pusan, Light, Ruby/Light.
Iris, Much, sAviOr, Darkelf, Xellos/TheMania.
Luxury, Yarnc, go.go, Chalrenge, HoGiL/Shine.

Looking at those lineups I'd rank the teams purely on strength in the following order:

1. MBC
2. CJ
3. Lecaf
4. OGN

Of course the 2v2 teams need to be included aswell, but I think all teams have a fairly good chance in the 2v2s. The only team standing out perhaps is Justin/Flower, but they have lost 4 out of their last 8 games, and OGN has never really played a second team.
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MenzieK
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States123 Posts
January 14 2008 02:56 GMT
#23
I wouldn't say ForGG is the third strongest, he has probably the best TvP right now and his TvZ is rising to an amazing level. He's macro is so strong, it can match that of OOv.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
January 14 2008 10:10 GMT
#24
But he's definitely weaker than Anytime and Jaedong, which would make him third strongest?
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