• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:29
CEST 18:29
KST 01:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"2ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!20Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)88Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format17
StarCraft 2
General
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters
Tourneys
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Animated Gateway BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut?
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Diablo IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Games can Help with Majo…
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4178 users

Daum OSL - Week 3 - Groups

Forum Index > News
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-24 09:07:31
May 24 2007 07:55 GMT
#1
[image loading]


It’s the third week of the OSL, and the quartet of games this evening is as good as it gets. There’s not a single mirror matchup, and every game has the potential to be tense and exciting. Here’s why:



OSL Ro16 Week 3
May 25
18:30 Korean


Group A

[image loading]
Savior (Z) vs. By.Flash (T)
[image loading]

@ Fantasy

This game embodies all that is good about StarCraft. The most-prestigious StarCraft tournament in the world? Check. A champion against a prominent rising star? Double check. A Terran? A Zerg? Triple and quadruple check. All that’s missing is a map with consistent starting positions; crafting one of the starting positions in the image of Gaema Gowon is not a decision I would have made.

To ignore that addendum, however, this really is the most exciting game we’ve had in a long time. Even though Savior has lost a few tough games lately, to say nothing of the dreaded OSL Curse, he is still Savior. He’s even managed to scrape together a miniature winning streak, going 3-0 in the past two weeks. Flash, on the other hand, hasn’t been “nigh unbeatable.” He’s literally been unbeatable. In televised games, Flash is 6-0. Beyond that, he hasn’t lost his composure once. In every single game, he’s looked unshakable, dominating his opponent from start to finish. Five of his games, however, have been against Protoss players. I’d be concerned that he was another Midas-esque TvP specialist if not for his brief interview during the OSL selection ceremony.

OGN: A lot of fans don’t know about you so much, what is your best matchup?
Flash: I am best at TvZ.
OGN: So then if you were to play versus Savior, do you think you can win?
Flash: Yes, I think I can win
(LosingID8, source).

And Flash hasn’t changed his tune. After the second week of the OSL, Flash said, “I am going to face Ma Jae Yoon (SaviOr[gm]) next but I am confident that I can win now” (joohyunee, source).

So here’s my logic (try to follow the progression): Flash has looked really, really strong in all of his games, but he’s yet to play a TvZ. But if his TvZ is even better than his other matchups, then Flash is actually God Himself. I voted for Savior because my conscience prevents me from doing otherwise (unless a Protoss player is involved), but I think Flash, regardless of the starting positions, is going to emerge the winner.


Group B

[image loading]
Bisu (P) vs. DarkElf (T)
[image loading]

@ Monty Hall

Despite being the least-attractive fake woman in the OSL, DarkElf has displayed some pretty strong TvP as of late, taking down Anytime and Reach since the beginning of 2007. Further, Monty Hall offers Terran a significant late-game advantage, given that the two island expansions overlook four additional expansions (to say nothing of the sheer number of vespene geysers).

Then there’s Bisu. I can’t imagine anyone arguing that he isn’t the best player in the world at this point, but his PvT is beatable. After his game against ChRh on Monty Hall, I’m prepared to say that any semi-competent Terran is a threat to Bisu, and DarkElf certainly fits that description. My money is on Bisu, but if DarkElf plays for the late game, he could take this one home.


Group C

[image loading]
Iris[gm] (T) vs. Shark[gm] (Z)
[image loading]

@ Python

Last week, I said that Shark didn’t have the skill to win the OSL, and I stand by that statement. But what he does have is the opportunity to cruise into the Ro8. With his win last week and nothing more than a slumping Iris and a balanced map standing between him and a 2-0 record, Shark could nearly cement his place in the single-elimination tournament without even needing to beat Reach, which, as we all know, is impossible. Iris, given his consistency, is still my pick to win this game, but Shark knows how important this game is; I’m expecting him to elevate his play accordingly.


Group D

[image loading]
Sea.Up (T) vs. Stork (P)
[image loading]

@ Hitchhiker

This has the potential to be the best or worst game of the evening. Up could use some insane strategy to try and counter Stork’s generally amazing play as of late—or he could be a lazy bastard and abuse the fact that the map is Hitchhiker. Another fact to consider: while Stork is 17-4 as of late, Up is an impressive 7-0 vP since the end of 2006. This game is simply too close to call.
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
May 24 2007 08:03 GMT
#2
good read
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
May 24 2007 08:08 GMT
#3
When are these being played? Thread says may 18 o.o
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-24 08:13:24
May 24 2007 08:10 GMT
#4
On May 24 2007 17:08 PTC-Hurricane wrote:
When are these being played? Thread says may 18 o.o

Good catch. I've updated the post with the correct time, which you can also see in the nifty calendar at the top-right of the site. I use the previous weeks' news post as my template for the current week, so typos of that nature happen from time to time.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
May 24 2007 08:28 GMT
#5
Up fighting!!
Even though I voted Savior, i want Flash to win
ROYAL ROADDERRR
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-24 08:43:06
May 24 2007 08:32 GMT
#6
All that’s missing is a map with consistent starting positions, specifically one that isn’t the same as Gaema Gowon.


This sentence confuses me =/ Did you mean to say MongHwan instead of Gaema Gowon, or are you implying that the Gaema position is imbalanced?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
mstercrack
Profile Joined May 2007
United States43 Posts
May 24 2007 08:43 GMT
#7
who the hells flash. i never saw him
West - Silvertear
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
May 24 2007 08:43 GMT
#8
Flash is going to get his confidence blown to tiny bits
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
May 24 2007 08:50 GMT
#9
Great writeup Andy, Im looking forward to tonights games (first games i can watch live this month maybe o_o!)

I have yet to see this flash character play, so I hope he impresses.
ModeratorGodfather
WiSaGaN
Profile Joined July 2006
203 Posts
May 24 2007 08:50 GMT
#10
An exciting night!
SteelString
Profile Joined July 2006
446 Posts
May 24 2007 08:58 GMT
#11
go flash =)
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
May 24 2007 09:04 GMT
#12
On May 24 2007 17:32 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
All that’s missing is a map with consistent starting positions, specifically one that isn’t the same as Gaema Gowon.


This sentence confuses me =/ Did you mean to say MongHwan instead of Gaema Gowon, or are you implying that the Gaema position is imbalanced?

Gaema's imbalanced. You're right about the sentence, though; it's confusing. I will fix it. I was in a bit of a rush trying to get this post up, so I just spell-checked it and hit the post button--not my typical style.

SO KEEP ANY MORE TYPOS THAT YOU SPOT TO YOURSELVES.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
May 24 2007 09:06 GMT
#13
sAviOr !!!!1 Teach that little boy why you are called the maestro.
joohyunee
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Korea (South)1087 Posts
May 24 2007 09:16 GMT
#14
GO FLASH <3 THE CUTEBOy
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
May 24 2007 09:29 GMT
#15
Great writeup Etter.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
May 24 2007 09:34 GMT
#16
Flash certainly is an enigma. A young up and coming star that KTF didn't steal from SumaGO? A Terran player that plays for KTF and doesn't suck balls?

Nothing in the world makes sense anymore.

Awesome write up DJ. I'm loving this OSL, every single game is going to be tight. I'm looking forward to it.
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 24 2007 09:36 GMT
#17
On May 24 2007 18:04 DJEtterStyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2007 17:32 GrandInquisitor wrote:
All that’s missing is a map with consistent starting positions, specifically one that isn’t the same as Gaema Gowon.


This sentence confuses me =/ Did you mean to say MongHwan instead of Gaema Gowon, or are you implying that the Gaema position is imbalanced?

Gaema's imbalanced. You're right about the sentence, though; it's confusing. I will fix it. I was in a bit of a rush trying to get this post up, so I just spell-checked it and hit the post button--not my typical style.

SO KEEP ANY MORE TYPOS THAT YOU SPOT TO YOURSELVES.


=P what's wrong with the Gaema position?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 24 2007 09:59 GMT
#18
Very good read
I like the fancy links too <3
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
May 24 2007 10:01 GMT
#19
Ack, Storker got HH. Oh well, he shall prevail!
This neo violence, pure self defiance
Autumn_gm
Profile Joined May 2007
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-24 10:09:58
May 24 2007 10:09 GMT
#20
Flash is good, but you are talking about IPXZerg here. I am pretty sure him losing isn't going to happen, but it would be in my eyes one of the biggest upsets of all time.

I know bisu will win that is all...

Iris lost against odin so I am really worried for him. He really needs to win this and show people he isn't a slumping joke. :/

I really think UpMagiC has the potential to be the next best terran. Even though he lost to GGPlay last match he honestly looked to have better play than him throughout the game. He just couldn't get past the expo containment to get the win. I like stork a lot, but my gut is pulling for UpMagiC. Outside of Tester he carries estro at this point, and without him they don't win proleague matches. I really think and hope UpMagiC wins this, and I have to say although savior is my favorite player of all time and favorite zerg UpMagiC would be my favorite terran.
The Summer Shudder...
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 569
mouzHeroMarine 98
BRAT_OK 58
FoxeR 40
RushiSC 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4115
Bisu 2022
Rain 1793
Shuttle 1039
BeSt 598
EffOrt 569
Mini 541
Soulkey 460
Light 383
firebathero 355
[ Show more ]
Stork 334
Larva 316
Zeus 227
Snow 168
ggaemo 160
actioN 145
hero 126
Dewaltoss 112
Mong 104
Rush 100
Hyun 83
Sea.KH 56
Movie 43
Sexy 41
ToSsGirL 37
JYJ 36
Barracks 28
Bale 26
Shine 19
yabsab 18
sorry 18
Terrorterran 18
HiyA 17
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
Noble 12
zelot 9
Sacsri 9
Dota 2
qojqva1773
Counter-Strike
fl0m3033
x6flipin1066
byalli429
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang094
Other Games
singsing1964
hiko779
Mlord512
DeMusliM297
Grubby229
ArmadaUGS215
Liquid`VortiX91
JuggernautJason77
KnowMe63
Trikslyr50
Rex42
Livibee30
ODPixel24
Organizations
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 240
Other Games
BasetradeTV211
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile122
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV403
League of Legends
• TFBlade937
Other Games
• Shiphtur305
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 31m
Escore
17h 31m
CrankTV Team League
18h 31m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
19h 31m
Big Brain Bouts
23h 31m
Soulspirit vs goblin
TriGGeR vs Bunny
OSC
1d 5h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 10h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 11h
RSL Revival
1d 16h
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
1d 22h
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
INu's Battles
4 days
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-22
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.