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DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-24 09:07:31
May 24 2007 07:55 GMT
#1
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It’s the third week of the OSL, and the quartet of games this evening is as good as it gets. There’s not a single mirror matchup, and every game has the potential to be tense and exciting. Here’s why:



OSL Ro16 Week 3
May 25
18:30 Korean


Group A

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Savior (Z) vs. By.Flash (T)
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@ Fantasy

This game embodies all that is good about StarCraft. The most-prestigious StarCraft tournament in the world? Check. A champion against a prominent rising star? Double check. A Terran? A Zerg? Triple and quadruple check. All that’s missing is a map with consistent starting positions; crafting one of the starting positions in the image of Gaema Gowon is not a decision I would have made.

To ignore that addendum, however, this really is the most exciting game we’ve had in a long time. Even though Savior has lost a few tough games lately, to say nothing of the dreaded OSL Curse, he is still Savior. He’s even managed to scrape together a miniature winning streak, going 3-0 in the past two weeks. Flash, on the other hand, hasn’t been “nigh unbeatable.” He’s literally been unbeatable. In televised games, Flash is 6-0. Beyond that, he hasn’t lost his composure once. In every single game, he’s looked unshakable, dominating his opponent from start to finish. Five of his games, however, have been against Protoss players. I’d be concerned that he was another Midas-esque TvP specialist if not for his brief interview during the OSL selection ceremony.

OGN: A lot of fans don’t know about you so much, what is your best matchup?
Flash: I am best at TvZ.
OGN: So then if you were to play versus Savior, do you think you can win?
Flash: Yes, I think I can win
(LosingID8, source).

And Flash hasn’t changed his tune. After the second week of the OSL, Flash said, “I am going to face Ma Jae Yoon (SaviOr[gm]) next but I am confident that I can win now” (joohyunee, source).

So here’s my logic (try to follow the progression): Flash has looked really, really strong in all of his games, but he’s yet to play a TvZ. But if his TvZ is even better than his other matchups, then Flash is actually God Himself. I voted for Savior because my conscience prevents me from doing otherwise (unless a Protoss player is involved), but I think Flash, regardless of the starting positions, is going to emerge the winner.


Group B

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Bisu (P) vs. DarkElf (T)
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@ Monty Hall

Despite being the least-attractive fake woman in the OSL, DarkElf has displayed some pretty strong TvP as of late, taking down Anytime and Reach since the beginning of 2007. Further, Monty Hall offers Terran a significant late-game advantage, given that the two island expansions overlook four additional expansions (to say nothing of the sheer number of vespene geysers).

Then there’s Bisu. I can’t imagine anyone arguing that he isn’t the best player in the world at this point, but his PvT is beatable. After his game against ChRh on Monty Hall, I’m prepared to say that any semi-competent Terran is a threat to Bisu, and DarkElf certainly fits that description. My money is on Bisu, but if DarkElf plays for the late game, he could take this one home.


Group C

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Iris[gm] (T) vs. Shark[gm] (Z)
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@ Python

Last week, I said that Shark didn’t have the skill to win the OSL, and I stand by that statement. But what he does have is the opportunity to cruise into the Ro8. With his win last week and nothing more than a slumping Iris and a balanced map standing between him and a 2-0 record, Shark could nearly cement his place in the single-elimination tournament without even needing to beat Reach, which, as we all know, is impossible. Iris, given his consistency, is still my pick to win this game, but Shark knows how important this game is; I’m expecting him to elevate his play accordingly.


Group D

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Sea.Up (T) vs. Stork (P)
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@ Hitchhiker

This has the potential to be the best or worst game of the evening. Up could use some insane strategy to try and counter Stork’s generally amazing play as of late—or he could be a lazy bastard and abuse the fact that the map is Hitchhiker. Another fact to consider: while Stork is 17-4 as of late, Up is an impressive 7-0 vP since the end of 2006. This game is simply too close to call.
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
May 24 2007 08:03 GMT
#2
good read
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
May 24 2007 08:08 GMT
#3
When are these being played? Thread says may 18 o.o
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DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-24 08:13:24
May 24 2007 08:10 GMT
#4
On May 24 2007 17:08 PTC-Hurricane wrote:
When are these being played? Thread says may 18 o.o

Good catch. I've updated the post with the correct time, which you can also see in the nifty calendar at the top-right of the site. I use the previous weeks' news post as my template for the current week, so typos of that nature happen from time to time.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
May 24 2007 08:28 GMT
#5
Up fighting!!
Even though I voted Savior, i want Flash to win
ROYAL ROADDERRR
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-24 08:43:06
May 24 2007 08:32 GMT
#6
All that’s missing is a map with consistent starting positions, specifically one that isn’t the same as Gaema Gowon.


This sentence confuses me =/ Did you mean to say MongHwan instead of Gaema Gowon, or are you implying that the Gaema position is imbalanced?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
mstercrack
Profile Joined May 2007
United States43 Posts
May 24 2007 08:43 GMT
#7
who the hells flash. i never saw him
West - Silvertear
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
May 24 2007 08:43 GMT
#8
Flash is going to get his confidence blown to tiny bits
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27146 Posts
May 24 2007 08:50 GMT
#9
Great writeup Andy, Im looking forward to tonights games (first games i can watch live this month maybe o_o!)

I have yet to see this flash character play, so I hope he impresses.
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WiSaGaN
Profile Joined July 2006
203 Posts
May 24 2007 08:50 GMT
#10
An exciting night!
SteelString
Profile Joined July 2006
446 Posts
May 24 2007 08:58 GMT
#11
go flash =)
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
May 24 2007 09:04 GMT
#12
On May 24 2007 17:32 GrandInquisitor wrote:
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All that’s missing is a map with consistent starting positions, specifically one that isn’t the same as Gaema Gowon.


This sentence confuses me =/ Did you mean to say MongHwan instead of Gaema Gowon, or are you implying that the Gaema position is imbalanced?

Gaema's imbalanced. You're right about the sentence, though; it's confusing. I will fix it. I was in a bit of a rush trying to get this post up, so I just spell-checked it and hit the post button--not my typical style.

SO KEEP ANY MORE TYPOS THAT YOU SPOT TO YOURSELVES.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
May 24 2007 09:06 GMT
#13
sAviOr !!!!1 Teach that little boy why you are called the maestro.
joohyunee
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Korea (South)1087 Posts
May 24 2007 09:16 GMT
#14
GO FLASH <3 THE CUTEBOy
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
May 24 2007 09:29 GMT
#15
Great writeup Etter.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
May 24 2007 09:34 GMT
#16
Flash certainly is an enigma. A young up and coming star that KTF didn't steal from SumaGO? A Terran player that plays for KTF and doesn't suck balls?

Nothing in the world makes sense anymore.

Awesome write up DJ. I'm loving this OSL, every single game is going to be tight. I'm looking forward to it.
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 24 2007 09:36 GMT
#17
On May 24 2007 18:04 DJEtterStyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2007 17:32 GrandInquisitor wrote:
All that’s missing is a map with consistent starting positions, specifically one that isn’t the same as Gaema Gowon.


This sentence confuses me =/ Did you mean to say MongHwan instead of Gaema Gowon, or are you implying that the Gaema position is imbalanced?

Gaema's imbalanced. You're right about the sentence, though; it's confusing. I will fix it. I was in a bit of a rush trying to get this post up, so I just spell-checked it and hit the post button--not my typical style.

SO KEEP ANY MORE TYPOS THAT YOU SPOT TO YOURSELVES.


=P what's wrong with the Gaema position?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 24 2007 09:59 GMT
#18
Very good read
I like the fancy links too <3
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4640 Posts
May 24 2007 10:01 GMT
#19
Ack, Storker got HH. Oh well, he shall prevail!
This neo violence, pure self defiance
Autumn_gm
Profile Joined May 2007
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-24 10:09:58
May 24 2007 10:09 GMT
#20
Flash is good, but you are talking about IPXZerg here. I am pretty sure him losing isn't going to happen, but it would be in my eyes one of the biggest upsets of all time.

I know bisu will win that is all...

Iris lost against odin so I am really worried for him. He really needs to win this and show people he isn't a slumping joke. :/

I really think UpMagiC has the potential to be the next best terran. Even though he lost to GGPlay last match he honestly looked to have better play than him throughout the game. He just couldn't get past the expo containment to get the win. I like stork a lot, but my gut is pulling for UpMagiC. Outside of Tester he carries estro at this point, and without him they don't win proleague matches. I really think and hope UpMagiC wins this, and I have to say although savior is my favorite player of all time and favorite zerg UpMagiC would be my favorite terran.
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