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WCS EU - Ro16 Group C Preview/B Recap (Season 2)

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WCS EU - Ro16 Group C Preview/B Recap (Season 2)

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byshiroiusagi
August 7th, 2013 05:19 GMT
2013 WCS Europe
Above Photo is Cursed

WCS Europe Season 2 - Premier League



Ro16: Group B Recap
Welmu and Duckdeok advance

Ro16: Group C Preview
NaNiwa, Tefel, MMA, Happy

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

VODs on Youtube

Ro16 Group B Recap

Stephano says goodbye as Welmu and Duckdeok advance

by Premasiri

Detailed results from Live Report Thread
+ Show Spoiler [Click for Detailed Results] +
Stephano vs. duckdeok
(Z)Stephano < Bel'Shir Vestige > (P)duckdeok
(Z)Stephano < Newkirk Precinct > (P)duckdeok
(Z)Stephano <> (P)duckdeok

Duckdeok wins 2-0!

Welmu vs. LucifroN
(P)Welmu < Bel'Shir Vestige > (T)LucifroN
(P)Welmu < Derelict Watcher > (T)LucifroN
(P)Welmu < Whirlwind > (T)LucifroN

Welmu wins 2-1!

Winners' Match
(P)duckdeok < Whirlwind > (P)Welmu
(P)duckdeok < Bel'Shir Vestige > (P)Welmu
(P)duckdeok < Newkirk Precinct (Sucks) > (P)Welmu

Welmu wins 2-1!

Losers' Match
(T)LucifroN < Star Station > (Z)Stephano
(T)LucifroN < Bel'Shir Vestige > (Z)Stephano
(T)LucifroN <> (Z)Stephano

Lucifron wins 2-0!

Final Match
(T)LucifroN < Bel'Shir Vestige > (P)duckdeok
(T)LucifroN < Star Station > (P)duckdeok
(T)LucifroN < Whirlwind > (P)duckdeok

Duckdeok wins 2-1!



Welmu and Duckdeok advance to WCS EU Premier RO16!


An exciting night of WCS EU games was overshadowed by a more momentous occasion, as (Z)Stephano wrapped up his pro-gaming career. It wasn't the grand exit he wanted to give his fans, as he went out 0 - 4 to (P)MVP.duckdeok and (T)mouz.LucifroN, but the writing had long since been on the wall that Stephano was no longer the dominant force he once was.

It seemed almost opportunistic that as the worldwide Zerg hero made his farewell, Protoss—the race that had suffered most under Stephano's reign—came rushing to the forefront. The duo of (P)NrS.Welmu and (P)MVP.duckdeok advanced from the group, joining Protoss brothers (P)Grubby and (P)mouz.HasuObs in the round of eight.

Initial Match: (P)MVP.duckdeok vs. (Z)EG.Stephano
In the opening series of the night, Duckdeok was swift to knock Stephano into the loser’s match with a 2:0 score. After a particularly quick version of the soul train caught Stephano woefully under-prepared in game one on Bel’shir Vestige, the French Zerg went on to play too safe in game two on Newkirk Precinct. By overmaking roaches in the early game but failing to do any real damage at all, Stephano’s low drone count was only capable of producing a ragtag mixture of roaches, hydras and corruptors when his Korean opponent attacked with a maxed out army. Unable to defend Duckdeok's overpowering attack at his third, Stephano was forced to tap out.

Initial Match: (P)NrS.Welmu vs. (T)mouz.LucifroN
With Duckdeok having established that no one was safe in the opening series, Finnish Protoss Welmu drove the point home by sending the more well-known Lucifron to the loser's match. Game one went poorly for Welmu as he was forced to play off the cuff after his mid-game gateway aggression was scouted, and he suffered at the hands of Lucifron's drops all game before tapping out.

However, Welmu was able to recover in no time in game two, using a proxy-robo immortal push to bust Lucifron's siege-tank double expansion. Despite having seen Welmu's aggressive style in games 1 and 2, Lucifron decided to opt for a CC first in game three. While he initially seemed to have taken the advantage when Welmu chose to go for a safe gateway-expand, that was followed up by a heavy two base colossus push that went undetected. Lucifron was caught uncharacteristically unprepared for the all-in, and Welmu booked a place in the winner’s match.

Winner’s match: (P)MVP.duckdeok vs. (P)NrS.Welmu
Duckdeok opened the series with a bang, going for an oracle-gateway all-in from one base and seemed to have the advantage on Welmu's 1-gate expand. However, the Finnish Protoss was able to execute very well on defence, despite Duckdeok's phoenixes lifting and limiting the effectiveness of immortals. With his expansion much later than Welmu's, Duckdeok made the risky decision to continue his aggression, transitioning into 5 gate + void rays to blindside his immortal-heavy opponent and take game 1. Much like his series against Lucifron, Welmu was able to recover a point in a rather simple fashion: a failed stalker push on the part of Duckdeok allowed Welmu to build a strong upgrade lead in the game, giving him the advantage necessary to take the game and even up the series.

Duckdeok seemed to take a lead in the deciding game with his early aggression, setting up a stalker contain that gave him firm control of the game. However, Duckdeok showed that his late game lacked in comparison to his brilliance in the early game, with his poor control and ineffective army composition allowing Welmu to turn the game and the series around, surprising many as he took the first spot in the round of 8 out of group B.

Loser’s match: (Z)EG.Stephano vs. (T)mouz.LucifroN – The Swan Song Ends
Unlike the games against Duckdeok, Stephano was able to play fairly straight-up and normal against Lucifron. Unfortunately, even a standard start wouldn't allow Stephano to take a map in his final appearance. Although Stephano's mass roach-baneling traded reasonably efficiently against Lucifron’s bio in game one, poor drop defence gave Mouz’s Spanish Terran a large lead. With unabated aggression by Lucifron, the French Zerg was eventually strangled out in convincing fashion.

Similarly even early and mid-game macro openings came out from both players in game 2 on Bel’Shir Vestige, but led to slightly different midgame compositions on either side: Stephano opting for the brand of roach hydra that he was one of the few to ever touch in Wings of Liberty, and Lucifron choosing a tank-backed bio composition in response. A crushing engagement where Lucifron had an upgrade lead (forced by an impossibly close cancellation of stephano’s +2 attack upgrade), combined with a punishing drop that sniped Stephano’s lair was to be the final blow to end Stephano’s professional Starcraft career.

Final match: (T)mouz.LucifroN vs. (P)MVP.duckdeok
While very few would have anticipated a round of 8 with neither Lucifron or Stephano, Duckdeok caused just such a scenario by eliminating Lucifron 2-1 in the last series to advance in second place.

Game one on Bel’shir Vestige was over almost as soon as it had begun, with Duckdeok punishing Lucifron’s typical macro style with a comically simple 3 gate pressure. Returning the favour in game two on Star Station, Lucifron’s 5 reaper rush ended up killing 25 probes, forcing Duckdeok out of the game after attempting a ludicrous one immortal+MSC all-in.

Saving the best till last, viewers were finally treated to a proper game on Whirlwind to close out the evening. Duckdeok chose to open with a ridiculously fast and risky third base at the six and a half minute mark, swinging from one end of the aggression/greed spectrum to the other. With Lucifron only scouting the play after Duckdeok’s first colossus was already on the map, the gambit ought to have paid off. However, poor army positioning by the MVP Protoss gave Lucifron the space he needed to pick off a sizable portion of Duckdeok’s probes, resulting in Lucifron pulling slightly back in economy. Even so, Lucifron decided the only available choice was to end the game before it was too late, and went for a two base scv pull all-in. While the attack was just barely able to defeat the initial army of Duckdeok. However, Duckdeok was able to stabilise by the skin of his teeth, pumping out just enough gateway units and one crucial colossus as Lucifron rushed to destroy powering pylons. After holding against one last SCV pull attack from Lucifron, Duckdeok finally grasped the coveted Ro8 spot.


Group C Preview: NaNiwa, Tefel, MMA, Happy

by se Zealously

The Burden of Being Better

All the pressure is on (P)Alliance.NaNiwa. Now, one might think that the player with multiple high tournament finishes, a successful stint in Korea's Code S, and over a hundred thousand dollars in prize money won wouldn't be so worried about a player like (Z)dignitas.Tefel who has basically no accomplishments in comparison.

Yes, that would be true, except for this:

[image loading]

That, for those of you who are unfamiliar, is the one black mark in NaNiwa's professional career after his image-rehabilitation and entry into Alliance, and the feather in the cap of Tefel's surprise qualifying run into the EU Premier League.

Or maybe NaNiwa isn't worried at all. After all, things have been going swimmingly for him in Heart of the Swarm. 2nd place behind Leenock at Dreamhack Stockholm, 4th at MLG Spring, and a convincing victory over Thorzain in the Swedish e-Sports National Championships... More than just feeling good about himself, Naniwa might even call himself the best foreigner in world (only his early exit from last season's Premier League would give him pause). Even his PvZ, which plagued him for a long time in WoL, has gone from being his worst match-up to at least on par with his others, if not even better. The level of play Naniwa has shown in important games over the last few months should be enough to secure the first victory of the night.

But of course, there is never complete certainty in Starcraft and much less so with Naniwa – he fell victim to his own sense of superiority the last time they faced off, by playing greedy and simply dying instead of putting thought into his play. Naniwa considers himself a better player than Tefel, and he is probably right – when he can play to the best of his abilities. The problem is, the King in the North has his ups and downs. Tefel no doubt knows this, and he should know that he has a good chance if Naniwa once again plays as if he is much, much better than the Zerg.

There is a lot on the line for both players here – Naniwa's chances of reaching the Global Finals hinge on him advancing to the Round of 8, and Tefel will have his first true chance to make a splash should he advance to the finals weekend. For Naniwa, the first match is a matter of redemption, of proving that he actually is better than Tefel, and making the Challenger League loss just a minor blip. For Tefel, there isn't as much pressure: if he wins, he surpasses all expectations by beating one of the best and most accomplished foreigners in Starcraft II. Naniwa has cracked under pressure before, especially when he's playing against opponents he considers inferior (see: Heart). It'll all come down to whether or not that happens again.

The long road back

Back in 2011, (T)SlayerS_MMA vs. (T)IM_Mvp was a very one-sided affair. Whenever they faced, MMA would unceremoniously stomp the otherwise unbeatable IM Terran and (then-)three time GSL champion into the ground. MMA would go on to win two GSL tournaments before falling off around the middle of 2012. But whereas his nemesis hit rock bottom, Mvp rose from the torment of physical injury, and despite still experiencing pain while playing, won a GSL, an IEM, and placed 2nd in another GSL.

While MMA had briefly looked like he was going to overthrow Mvp to become the new Terran king toward the end of 2011, what actually happened was pretty much the exact opposite of a coronation. MMA's climb back to relevance has been a long and painful one. He fell out early in all kinds of tournaments in the BL-Infestor era, with his previously untouchable TvZ looking very vulnerable and his other two matchups not much better. But finally, things are once again clicking for green-clad (T)Acer.MMA. He isn't back to his scintillating, tournament-winning form just yet, but he's on his way.

Another important step on the way back to the top is the WCS. MMA fell short last season, going out in the Round of 16 whereas Mvp advanced. This season, however, Mvp is already out. MMA may not think about it consciously, but I can't help but feel that by going further than Mvp, the broken old man who kept on winning when he logically should not have, the man who also happens to be one of your old rivals (in the most important tournament, no less), MMA will feel some sense of satisfaction. Mvp went out, and by holding on, by advancing, MMA will have come yet another step closer to the top.

MMA's opponent isn't a legend like Mvp, but still a very dangerous opponent in (T)Empire|Happy. Forecasted over and over as a player to look out for, or at least someone who will be big soon, that soon has finally become now for the Russian Terran. Though he remains without a major championship in Starcraft II, he is showing European championship level form in Heart of the Swarm. He looked great all the way up to the elimination rounds of last season, where he had a minor breakdown and went out in the Round of 8 against DIMAGA.

Despite last season's early exit, and every early exit before that, Happy is a fearsome player to go up against. It was excusable not to know much about him given how detached the Russian Starcraft II scene was for much of WoL, but Happy has been wrecking household names of the Western scene in HotS. ToD and SortOf fell before him in the WCS EU Ro32, and he impressively defeated both MC and San last weekend at ASUS ROG Summer.

If there is anyone who should be as hungry for a major victory as MMA, it would be Happy. No Russian player has won a premier Starcraft II tournament so far, despite several coming very close. Happy fell out last season by playing below his abilities. Just like MMA and Naniwa, this group is, at least to some degree, a matter of redemption for Happy. As he showed us last season, he has what it takes to compete with the top Europeans. Whether or not he can go beyond that and take out a Korean seeking to recover elite status will decide if he advances out of this group or not.

Overall outlook

Naniwa and MMA should be the favorites in their initial match-ups. Naniwa has looked sharp for the most part in HotS, taking out some pretty big names all over to reach high finishers in two major tournaments, showing some good PvZ in the process. MMA vs. Happy is harder to call, with Happy being a bit too predictable with his builds and MMA being a little too inconsistent. But I'm giving MMA a slight advantage, be it on the recent level of play or superior experience in important matches. No matter who advances, Naniwa should feel comfortable against both, though Happy is probably a bigger threat to him, should he be the one to come out ahead after the first match. Happy's TvP can be described as 'abusive' in one word and 'f***ing abusive' in two, both things NaNiwa doesn't deal well with unless he gets ahead with build orders.

Unfortunately for Tefel, I don't see much of a chance for him in this group. He beat Naniwa last season, but his opponent came back for revenge and is looking better than he has in a long time. MMA and Happy are both at the very least equals to Tefel in TvZ, and with how Tefel's famous game against Mvp looked last round, I cannot give him much credit.

Naniwa > Tefel
MMA > Happy
Naniwa > MMA
Happy > Tefel
MMA > Happy

Naniwa and MMA advance to the Round of 8


More WCS Europe Season 2 Coverage

Aug 9 – Welmu and Duckdeok advance to Ro8 as Stephano plays his retirement matches.
Aug 8 – HasuObs and Grubby shock Mvp in Round of eight opener group.
July 18 – Russian duo of TitaN and Happy round out Ro16 by earning final two spots
July 17 – Terrans ForGG and Bunny eliminated as VortiX and Grubby move on
July 11 – NaNiwa and Lucifron top group F, Bly and uzer fall to Challenger
July 10 – Welmu takes first place in group E, upsetting Ret, BabyKnight, and ThorZaIN


Writers: Premasiri and Zealously (who is Swedish).
Graphics: shiroiusagi
Banner photo: ESL
Editor: Waxangel.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 05:30:33
August 07 2013 05:30 GMT
#2
Thanks for the preview! Agree with the predictions for tomorrow's group.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
August 07 2013 05:34 GMT
#3
that front page picture, hahahaha
ZeeSC2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States134 Posts
August 07 2013 05:35 GMT
#4
MMA is like a guarantee to advance, kinda up in the air whether Naniwa or Happy will imo.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
August 07 2013 05:36 GMT
#5
Thanks for the article. Thank you
Support your esport!
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
August 07 2013 05:37 GMT
#6
I'd put MMA > Naniwa
Then Naniwa over Happy
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 07 2013 05:40 GMT
#7
I've prepared a new banner since all of the players in that one are retired or eliminated

[image loading]
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
August 07 2013 05:45 GMT
#8
I picked Happy in Liquibet. That kid has to win something eventually, he's just so damn good.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
SinTio
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany871 Posts
August 07 2013 05:53 GMT
#9
YaY, first non-Protoss advancing today!
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
August 07 2013 05:54 GMT
#10
well.. i hope naniwa will make it trough the group.. I really like the player... but then again.. if he passes will be like 6 tosses in the top 8.. with a big change of 7.. since last group has 3 toss and 2 of them should be favored to pass. Anyhow.. if he makes it to the ro8.. i hope he will win it all.. he has good pvp.
And as a 2nd.. i hope for a terran.. i like both MMA and Happy.. sry Tefel.
Lest hope for GGs
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tolerast
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation36 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 06:12:04
August 07 2013 05:56 GMT
#11
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 07 2013 14:40 Dodgin wrote:
I've prepared a new banner since all of the players in that one are retired or eliminated

[image loading]


did you mean?
[image loading]
no river to take me home
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 07 2013 05:57 GMT
#12
I like yours better but make sure there's a slit for dimaga's eyes and smile, too creepy to leave out.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 06:01:10
August 07 2013 05:59 GMT
#13
On August 07 2013 14:40 Dodgin wrote:
I've prepared a new banner since all of the players in that one are retired or eliminated

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Make that Protoss Yellow or Blue over purple and we got a good updated banner.

Go NaNiwa. Go for Aiur, for your fellow Protoss.

EDIT: I still get feels from that picture of Robert and NaNiwa.
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 07 2013 06:02 GMT
#14
Hoping for
Tefel > Naniwa
MMA > Happy
MMA > Tefel
Happy > Naniwa
Happy > Tefel

I'd like that best playerwise. Racewise having a zerg advance might be nice too, but if i think about it... PvZ is worse than PvT, so i think more terrans advancing is OK.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 07 2013 06:03 GMT
#15
Go MMA!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 07 2013 06:05 GMT
#16
mma next best thing to mvp for me
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 07 2013 06:16 GMT
#17
On August 07 2013 14:56 tolerast wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 07 2013 14:40 Dodgin wrote:
I've prepared a new banner since all of the players in that one are retired or eliminated

[image loading]


did you mean?
[image loading]

lmao. so true. dat mothership core...
(>'.')>
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
August 07 2013 06:28 GMT
#18
On August 07 2013 14:56 tolerast wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 07 2013 14:40 Dodgin wrote:
I've prepared a new banner since all of the players in that one are retired or eliminated

[image loading]


did you mean?
[image loading]


Always like persons who create a new account just for blaming other races because you probably suck
Best Protoss Player 4 ever - Bisu[Shield] || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326242 || THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, THIS IS WHERE THEY FALL, GIVE THEM NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING ! || SKT FIGHTIIING
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
August 07 2013 06:30 GMT
#19
That photo of Robert Ohlen hugging Naniwa is amazing, anywhere I can fin a higher resolution version?
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
August 07 2013 06:38 GMT
#20
On August 07 2013 15:30 Fishriot wrote:
That photo of Robert Ohlen hugging Naniwa is amazing, anywhere I can fin a higher resolution version?


I remember it being extremely awkward. Naniwa didn't like the hug at all.
GuanaMana
Profile Joined October 2012
United States71 Posts
August 07 2013 06:47 GMT
#21
Gonna be tough for nani tomorrow!! but we believe!
Be a good boy
tolerast
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation36 Posts
August 07 2013 06:53 GMT
#22

Always like persons who create a new account just for blaming other races because you probably suck

I am not blaming any race, its just actual situation @ wcs eu s2 now
no river to take me home
Jade
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 08:28:07
August 07 2013 06:56 GMT
#23
NaNiwa>Tefel
MMA>Happy
NaNiwa>MMA
Tefel>Happy
Tefel>MMA imo
EDIT:

On August 07 2013 16:10 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 15:56 SearchEU wrote:
NaNiwa>Tefel
MMA>Happy
NaNiwa>MMA
Tefel>Happy
Tefel>MMA imo


Get this sick bastard out of here.



...this is what I'm most afraid of.


That's my heart prediction, gonna go with NaNiwa and MMA for my brain prediction.
@KRN_Jade "Patience is a small price to pay for perfection."
izmatic
Profile Joined November 2012
United States104 Posts
August 07 2013 07:01 GMT
#24
On August 07 2013 15:28 NexCa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 14:56 tolerast wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 07 2013 14:40 Dodgin wrote:
I've prepared a new banner since all of the players in that one are retired or eliminated

[image loading]


did you mean?
[image loading]


Always like persons who create a new account just for blaming other races because you probably suck


ummm, i think he is just making a joke about the number of toss in the rnd of 8, and the fact that all of the previous members are eliminated... way to come out swinging tho!
two wrongs dont make a right, and three rights make a left
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 07 2013 07:04 GMT
#25
LOL that hug on the main page...you can tell it must've been extremely awkward lol
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
August 07 2013 07:10 GMT
#26
On August 07 2013 15:56 SearchEU wrote:
NaNiwa>Tefel
MMA>Happy
NaNiwa>MMA
Tefel>Happy
Tefel>MMA imo


Get this sick bastard out of here.



...this is what I'm most afraid of.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20291 Posts
August 07 2013 07:11 GMT
#27
Probably staying up to watch this (:
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Buddy168
Profile Joined June 2012
United States157 Posts
August 07 2013 07:17 GMT
#28
On August 07 2013 15:38 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 15:30 Fishriot wrote:
That photo of Robert Ohlen hugging Naniwa is amazing, anywhere I can fin a higher resolution version?


I remember it being extremely awkward. Naniwa didn't like the hug at all.


I don't know, Naniwa seems to be enjoying....

Who the fuck am I kidding? He probably wanted to die.
"You're being a useless fucking asshole" - Day[9]
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
August 07 2013 07:37 GMT
#29
NaNiwa 2-0 Tefel
MMA 1-2 Happy
NaNiwa 0-2 Happy
MMA 2-0 Tefel
NaNiwa 2-1 MMA

Happy and NaNiwa advance.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
August 07 2013 07:38 GMT
#30
GoGO MMA
"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
Chaprizui
Profile Joined July 2012
8 Posts
August 07 2013 07:39 GMT
#31
the picture of naniwa and robert is gold :D

gogo naniwa
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
August 07 2013 07:52 GMT
#32
so, we will have min five P players of eight or max 7/8!!! awful......
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 07:54:56
August 07 2013 07:54 GMT
#33
On August 07 2013 15:38 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 15:30 Fishriot wrote:
That photo of Robert Ohlen hugging Naniwa is amazing, anywhere I can fin a higher resolution version?


I remember it being extremely awkward. Naniwa didn't like the hug at all.

It was hilarious. Don't even need my memory for it though; This picture says it all. XD
I Protoss winner, could it be?
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
August 07 2013 07:58 GMT
#34
omg this pic is brilliant! e-sports needs more nanihugging!
oh in the sun sun having fun
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
August 07 2013 07:59 GMT
#35
a nice preview. Gives 0 chances for dTefel as always
oh in the sun sun having fun
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
August 07 2013 08:01 GMT
#36
Our Dreams leave with Stephano, our hopes go with NaNiwa.
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
August 07 2013 08:06 GMT
#37
On August 07 2013 14:59 Master of DalK wrote:
EDIT: I still get feels from that picture of Robert and NaNiwa.

Lol, I dunno if I get dem "feels" from that picture, unless they're of the giggling kind :D
Plat Support Main #believe
holmesgenius
Profile Joined February 2013
Vietnam65 Posts
August 07 2013 08:13 GMT
#38
no IM MVP, no stephano......who will defeat WCS korean !!!
Terran imbalance ---- Zerg wins ---- Protoss advances
Prox
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 08:14:05
August 07 2013 08:13 GMT
#39
Hahaha that frontpage picture and what made me laugh even harder is the in-game screen vs Tefel :D
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Prox
Prox
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands174 Posts
August 07 2013 08:15 GMT
#40
Naniwa > Tefel
Happy > MMA
Happy > Naniwa
MMA > Tefel
MMA > Naniwa

ezpz for Happy :D
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Prox
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
August 07 2013 08:19 GMT
#41
On August 07 2013 14:40 Dodgin wrote:
I've prepared a new banner since all of the players in that one are retired or eliminated

[image loading]



roooofl
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
August 07 2013 08:23 GMT
#42
I predicted that MMA will win this wcs-eu when he qualified for premier.. he is the champion we deserve and will be champion of EU for some seasons to come. MMA is back and he is back really strong and hots
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
August 07 2013 08:27 GMT
#43
On August 07 2013 15:30 Fishriot wrote:
That photo of Robert Ohlen hugging Naniwa is amazing, anywhere I can fin a higher resolution version?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410075

toward the end
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
gasmeter
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom249 Posts
August 07 2013 08:38 GMT
#44
Come on MMA, I believe in you!
Polt | MMA | MarineKing | Flash | Mvp | NesTea | INnoVation
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
August 07 2013 08:50 GMT
#45
This is up for Naniwa to take. Nr 1 foreigner hwaitinguu
fjjotizz
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden153 Posts
August 07 2013 08:55 GMT
#46
That picture on the front page was toooo good.

Great write up! Id love to hear the reasoning behind Naniwa>MMA, but this'll do too.
"I'm a creepy guy. Tasteless, if it would make my units move faster, I would peek in everyones window in Seoul."
RayBeans
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany331 Posts
August 07 2013 09:00 GMT
#47
wcs eu needs more t/z, but with another 4 protoss competing chances are very high to 5-6 protosses in the ro8. well well, more chances for hasuobs to reach the finals i guess :D
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VeTerrAn1
Profile Joined February 2013
Switzerland39 Posts
August 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#48
Seems like protoss learn how to exploit their really strong Army ^^
If there would be 6 / 7 Protoss in the final Round of 8 i won't watch this boring event. For me, the most broken race is Toss, no offence, but its always the same to watch, very boring and sometimes sad to see how turteling and creepy a toss can play and finally roll over everything. Nevertheless, congrats to the 4 protoss players!

Maybe Toss is the strongest race in Bo1 but now they proof that they also can win in longer Series.

hope for tonight that Happy and MMA advance to next round.
Naniwa > Tefel
MMA > Happy
MMA > Naniwa
Happy > Tefel
Happy > Naniwa
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
August 07 2013 09:20 GMT
#49
On August 07 2013 17:50 Muffloe wrote:
This is up for Naniwa to take. Nr 1 foreigner hwaitinguu

I sincerely hope that NaNiwa will win this WCS EU. He is the only player I bothered to join the fanclub of. It'd be nice after being 2nd in Battle.net European invitational and not qualifying for 2012 WCS EU.
Panozen
Profile Joined August 2013
248 Posts
August 07 2013 09:24 GMT
#50
I think you guys are writing off Tefel a little too quickly here... Guy's got potential
maXX_CZ
Profile Joined July 2012
Czech Republic19 Posts
August 07 2013 09:28 GMT
#51
They way predictions work so far its Tefel Happy fo sho.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 07 2013 09:35 GMT
#52
On August 07 2013 18:28 maXX_CZ wrote:
They way predictions work so far its Tefel Happy fo sho.

Wouldn't surprise me.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
syriuszonito
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland332 Posts
August 07 2013 09:36 GMT
#53
On August 07 2013 14:56 tolerast wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 07 2013 14:40 Dodgin wrote:
I've prepared a new banner since all of the players in that one are retired or eliminated

[image loading]


did you mean?
[image loading]


fixed your picture:

[image loading]


gonna be really exciting finals...
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Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
August 07 2013 09:37 GMT
#54
I think Happy's going to pull off a serious upset here, I'm just not sure which one.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 09:38:55
August 07 2013 09:38 GMT
#55
On August 07 2013 18:17 VeTerrAn1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Seems like protoss learn how to exploit their really strong Army ^^
If there would be 6 / 7 Protoss in the final Round of 8 i won't watch this boring event. For me, the most broken race is Toss, no offence, but its always the same to watch, very boring and sometimes sad to see how turteling and creepy a toss can play and finally roll over everything. Nevertheless, congrats to the 4 protoss players!

Maybe Toss is the strongest race in Bo1 but now they proof that they also can win in longer Series.

hope for tonight that Happy and MMA advance to next round.
Naniwa > Tefel
MMA > Happy
MMA > Naniwa
Happy > Tefel
Happy > Naniwa



Nice balance whine. Because we all know that one tournament "proves" these things. You know...as opposed to looking at trends over time...

*facepalm*



OT: Hard to call group. I think Tefel might surprise some people though. I'd like to see Happy go through because he's been threatening to be a real title challenger for what seems like forever.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 07 2013 09:46 GMT
#56
Go MMA
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
August 07 2013 09:56 GMT
#57
Europe, where protoss reign supreme
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
August 07 2013 09:58 GMT
#58
lmao dat naniwa BM
VeTerrAn1
Profile Joined February 2013
Switzerland39 Posts
August 07 2013 10:18 GMT
#59
On August 07 2013 18:38 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 18:17 VeTerrAn1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Seems like protoss learn how to exploit their really strong Army ^^
If there would be 6 / 7 Protoss in the final Round of 8 i won't watch this boring event. For me, the most broken race is Toss, no offence, but its always the same to watch, very boring and sometimes sad to see how turteling and creepy a toss can play and finally roll over everything. Nevertheless, congrats to the 4 protoss players!

Maybe Toss is the strongest race in Bo1 but now they proof that they also can win in longer Series.

hope for tonight that Happy and MMA advance to next round.
Naniwa > Tefel
MMA > Happy
MMA > Naniwa
Happy > Tefel
Happy > Naniwa



Nice balance whine. Because we all know that one tournament "proves" these things. You know...as opposed to looking at trends over time...

*facepalm*



OT: Hard to call group. I think Tefel might surprise some people though. I'd like to see Happy go through because he's been threatening to be a real title challenger for what seems like forever.



not whining, just my opinion. Just one Tournament showing anything, i know but its funny to see so many Protoss advancing this time ... isn't it if you feel that i attack you or your race, then its your problem as obviously a Protoss player ^^

PvP is one of the most boring matchup's for me and i hope that there will be a bit more variation in Ro8, this is my opinion. But its funny how u feel attacked, you don't have to justify yourself or your race ^^
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
August 07 2013 10:35 GMT
#60
Perhaps Naniwa will break through and show us that he's one of the best foreigners in starcraft
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
August 07 2013 10:37 GMT
#61
Gogo Naniwa!!
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 07 2013 10:44 GMT
#62
It would be hillarious if there will be no protoss winners in last two groups and no protoss in Ro4.
EvilSusan
Profile Joined June 2013
South Africa73 Posts
August 07 2013 10:56 GMT
#63
On August 07 2013 19:44 DidYuhim wrote:
It would be hillarious if there will be no protoss winners in last two groups and no protoss in Ro4.


It would also be impossible, seeing as there are 3 Tosses in Group D.

My head says no, but my heart says HELL YES GO TEFEL, THE BEST WORST PLAYER ON EARTH! ^_^
Head says Happy and Nani advance though, in no particular order.
"It's 144hz. I tested it. It works." -Richard "R1CH" Stanway
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 07 2013 10:57 GMT
#64
The front page picture is golden! I'm rotting for MMA and Naniwa to advance, MMA because of the redemption arch and Naniwa because I find the thought of 7/8 Toss RO8 to be hilarious, I'm also hoping for MMA to beat 3 toss in a row to become EU champion in a feat similar to what Mvp did last year in the GSL, and thus, in a weird twist of poetic justice, return to being considered an elite Terran.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 07 2013 11:06 GMT
#65
If happy manages to get out of this group he officialy may call himself best terran in Europe.
I think he has a shot, i'd pref EU players in a EU tournament over Koreans anyday, so hoping for Happy and Tafel.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1895 Posts
August 07 2013 11:12 GMT
#66
On August 07 2013 14:56 tolerast wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 07 2013 14:40 Dodgin wrote:
I've prepared a new banner since all of the players in that one are retired or eliminated

[image loading]


did you mean?
[image loading]


This is sooo true They even banged my Jürgen!!! So, MMA, your chance has come to rehabilitate yourself in front of me and my BoxeR-fandom!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
August 07 2013 11:24 GMT
#67
That Kansas song is goooooood
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Backlash123
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada57 Posts
August 07 2013 12:04 GMT
#68
On August 07 2013 17:01 nimdil wrote:
Our Dreams leave with Stephano, our hopes go with NaNiwa.

You probably should have done that about 2 months ago to be honest.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
August 07 2013 12:18 GMT
#69
I wonder if MMA practiced with Soulkey again since the Ro32. I'm pretty convinced that was the biggest reason he looked as good as he did in the Ro32 and it would make him an easy favorite to get out in first place. And as much as I want Nani to become the best foreigner again, I think MMA and Happy get out of the group alive
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
August 07 2013 12:19 GMT
#70
Go NaNiwa I think you can 2-0 your group Please don't choke like last season
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 12:27:00
August 07 2013 12:23 GMT
#71
Would humour me after every protoss advancing so far, for NaNiwa to be the one to fail. I think MMA will roll the group as he's showing good signs of a recovery lately, Happy vs NaNiwa to decide to also advance. Happy is a monster at tvt though, if it gets to the late game I think he would beat MMA as he is just so damn methodical with great positioning etc, so that will be an interesting series. And also Nani vs the world's worst player rematch will be fun too :D
xenoZhang
Profile Joined July 2012
China142 Posts
August 07 2013 12:26 GMT
#72
MMA ftw!!

every time someone mentions the year of 2011, i weep tear T_T
so much memories from the good old Slayers and MMA
toss is op is op is op ( ̄へ ̄) || Slayers MMA / BOXER / NESTEA / PARTING / DRG / F91 / COMM
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 07 2013 12:37 GMT
#73
On August 07 2013 19:57 Destructicon wrote:
The front page picture is golden! I'm rotting for MMA and Naniwa to advance, ...


Does that mean you want them to advance so badly that you started to rot?
hundred thousand krouner
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
August 07 2013 13:11 GMT
#74
ForGG the womanizer
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
August 07 2013 13:28 GMT
#75
On August 07 2013 19:35 NeThZOR wrote:
Perhaps Naniwa will break through and show us that he's one of the best foreigners in starcraft

I doubt he still needs to do that. We know he is one of the best foreigners. What he can win here is the title of undisputable best foreigner.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 07 2013 13:34 GMT
#76
These groups are just silly. They come in 4 consecutive days, so I thought of picking one to watch to have some free time, but each of them so far has had someone I quite wanted to see in them - MVP, Stepano and now Naniwa and MMA. Well, at least I hope they don't follow the rest of the list ...
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 07 2013 13:41 GMT
#77
welmu has been getting better and better all the time. Maybe he is the next foreign hope?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Siggen
Profile Joined November 2011
143 Posts
August 07 2013 13:48 GMT
#78
Happy and Tefel easy
Smittmeister
Profile Joined November 2011
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 13:51:38
August 07 2013 13:49 GMT
#79
[image loading]

ready to go!
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
August 07 2013 14:04 GMT
#80
On August 07 2013 22:41 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
welmu has been getting better and better all the time. Maybe he is the next foreign hope?


Or maybe uzer is? hes getting better and berrer all the time too!
and these posts have absolutely no national bias...
oh in the sun sun having fun
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
August 07 2013 14:16 GMT
#81
On August 07 2013 22:49 Smittmeister wrote:
[image loading]

ready to go!


wow made me cry tears of joy haha

I have a feeling Happy will surprise. But I'm rooting for Naniwa to finish first.
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 14:39:53
August 07 2013 14:37 GMT
#82
Nani afraid of going on tilt.

On August 08 2013 12:19 Johan Lucchesi (@NaNiwaSC2) wrote:
so hard to not get tilted at this tournament... I MUST STAY STRONG....


ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 15:03:23
August 07 2013 15:03 GMT
#83
I can see Happy taking MMA, although MMA has looked really strong lately. But since we're jumping ship on 'ol Luci, it's time to ride the H train!
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
August 07 2013 15:37 GMT
#84
is the robert hugging naniwa pic from when naniwa lost the dreamhack finals to leenock? thanks.
hey man just curious
NihilisticGod
Profile Joined March 2011
Northern Ireland174 Posts
August 07 2013 15:53 GMT
#85
On August 07 2013 15:38 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 15:30 Fishriot wrote:
That photo of Robert Ohlen hugging Naniwa is amazing, anywhere I can fin a higher resolution version?


I remember it being extremely awkward. Naniwa didn't like the hug at all.



You can see the look in his eyes, like a deer caught in headlights lol
Too weird to live... too rare to die.
Thruth
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland112 Posts
August 07 2013 16:09 GMT
#86
No handshake :D
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
August 07 2013 16:11 GMT
#87
Pic + title combo is S Tier, well done Wax.
anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
August 07 2013 17:12 GMT
#88
I feel sry for happy
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 07 2013 18:21 GMT
#89
LOL at the hugging pic!
11B
Profile Joined March 2010
United States188 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 18:50:24
August 07 2013 18:49 GMT
#90
Spoiler alert for WCS Europe :D+ Show Spoiler +
NaNiwa 2-1 vs Tel and 2-0 vs MMa!! GoGo NaNiwa ^^ http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_europe
LoL....Pogue
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
August 07 2013 20:47 GMT
#91
best predictions
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
August 07 2013 20:49 GMT
#92
congrats sweden
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 07 2013 21:10 GMT
#93
On August 08 2013 05:49 Waxangel wrote:
congrats sweden


NATIONALISM best way to predict
AdministratorBreak the chains
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 07 2013 23:13 GMT
#94
haha at that protoss banner. IT'S COMING TRUE! XD Prediction were good this time
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
URLateral
Profile Joined October 2012
275 Posts
August 08 2013 02:10 GMT
#95
sick predictions
Chigge
Profile Joined October 2011
129 Posts
August 08 2013 14:30 GMT
#96
Spot on.
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