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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 08:05:15
May 23 2013 08:01 GMT
#101
Here's how it will go:

Game 1: Ragnarok style Roachdrop catching Inno off guard 1:0
Game 2: Nydusbust 2:0
Game 3: Roachbaneallin 3:0
Game 4-6: Innovation wins in lategame: 3-3
Game 7: Hatch at Innos natural, because Symbol watched Meta with Artosis: Gangnamstudio burns down. TL livethread melts, chat implodes.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 23 2013 08:05 GMT
#102
On May 23 2013 17:01 Greenei wrote:
Here's how it will go:

Game 1: Ragnarok style Roachdrop catching Inno off guard 1:0
Game 2: Nydusbust 2:0
Game 3: Roachbaneallin 3:0
Game 4-6: Innovation wins in lategame: 3-3
Game 7: Hatch at Innos natural, because Symbol watched Meta with Artosis: Gangnamstudio burns down. TL livethread melts, chat implodes.


please make this happen, PLEASEEEEEEEEEE
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
May 23 2013 08:07 GMT
#103
Man. Innovation is dominating so hard lately.

I hope the TL/Artosis curse doesn't bring him down.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
May 23 2013 08:11 GMT
#104
Gogo INno !

Been more than a year without a T winning GSL ! Save us from another Z champ ! Save us from ZvZ !

If Symbol wins, I'll claim he's hurting esports.
LiquipediaWanderer
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 23 2013 08:13 GMT
#105
On May 23 2013 17:01 Greenei wrote:
Here's how it will go:

Game 1: Ragnarok style Roachdrop catching Inno off guard 1:0
Game 2: Nydusbust 2:0
Game 3: Roachbaneallin 3:0
Game 4-6: Innovation wins in lategame: 3-3
Game 7: Hatch at Innos natural, because Symbol watched Meta with Artosis: Gangnamstudio burns down. TL livethread melts, chat implodes.

haha made me giggle
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
May 23 2013 08:22 GMT
#106
On May 23 2013 17:01 Greenei wrote:
Here's how it will go:

Game 1: Ragnarok style Roachdrop catching Inno off guard 1:0
Game 2: Nydusbust 2:0
Game 3: Roachbaneallin 3:0
Game 4-6: Innovation wins in lategame: 3-3
Game 7: Hatch at Innos natural, because Symbol watched Meta with Artosis: Gangnamstudio burns down. TL livethread melts, chat implodes.


Hm...
Last year Symbol was considered to be one of THE best late game Zerg with a somewhat weaker early/midgame. He changed his style up by quite a bit, includes some cheese builds, but his late game is probably still insanely good - even though he does not rely on that alone any longer..
Of course late game Zerg vs Innovation is hard, but I don't think Symbol would lose every single one of the macro games. Symbol had some quite impressive late game ZvT's in the past.
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
May 23 2013 08:54 GMT
#107
I want symbol to lose so badly. From what he's shown us he's just a very lame and gimicky player that relies upon that weird part of zerg where you can randomly all in and take games against better players.

Don't think he can beat Innovation in a macro game though, and in a BO7 I don't think he can get away with cheesing all the time. I really hope I am right, if it's ZvZ finals again I might actually cry.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
May 23 2013 09:06 GMT
#108
I want Innovation to win and I want the finals to be an incredible brawl between Soulkey and Innovation (don't care who wins).

Unfortunately for what I want, I think Symbol can take this series. It isn't the most likely thing, but it is definitely quite possible.
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 09:18:48
May 23 2013 09:11 GMT
#109
Honestly I feel this preview (along with everyone else) seriously underestimates Symbol. Symbol beat Innovation last code S by straight-up outplaying him, and he can do it again.

On May 23 2013 06:29 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Unless Symbol finds a weakness in Innovation’s play that no one else has yet discovered
[...]
All-ins, strategies, gimmicks, tricks, and oddball styles are of no meaning to Innovation. He will play straight up, he will play to the late game and he will just use his superior mechanics to edge out a win every time.

He already did, and TL discovered it too. It's called predictability. Innovation does the same thing every game and that can be punished. Symbol read it last time, either catching Innovation off-guard with aggressive all-ins or playing extremely greedy like 3-hatch before pool knowing Innovation won't punish.

Symbol looks stronger than ever. Last GSL in his finalist appearance, he finished with a record of 17-14, barely over 50% and having scraped by in most of his series. This GSL so far, Symbol is 11-2.

That said, Innovation is also looking stronger than ever. In fact, he's looking like he could be the best in the world after he's taken down the best in the world one after another. That's why I still think Innovation will take it, maybe 4-2 or 4-3. But it's a mistake to write off Symbol's chances. It's happened before.
Gben592
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom281 Posts
May 23 2013 10:01 GMT
#110
How... what? huh? Innovation is still alive?
"The more skilled player is the one who wins, and I don't think there's better balance than what we have now." INnoVation
RandyL
Profile Joined May 2013
Australia148 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 10:32:29
May 23 2013 10:18 GMT
#111
not only alive, but dominating so hard that symbol, one of the best players in the world, is looking like a complete rookie, only games he wins is through cheesing - as expected by most.

so much for all those people saying "stop underestimating symbol/overestimating innovation"
BurNIng your soul.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 23 2013 10:19 GMT
#112
On May 23 2013 17:54 Jerom wrote:
I want symbol to lose so badly. From what he's shown us he's just a very lame and gimicky player that relies upon that weird part of zerg where you can randomly all in and take games against better players.

Don't think he can beat Innovation in a macro game though, and in a BO7 I don't think he can get away with cheesing all the time. I really hope I am right, if it's ZvZ finals again I might actually cry.


how long have you been watching symbol play? i'm guessing not long give him some more credit than that lol
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 23 2013 10:34 GMT
#113
On May 23 2013 06:33 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 10:40 Emzeeshady wrote: Terran players are stubborn so I think Symbol takes a few games before Innovation figures out he needs to build units before 8 minutes. 4-2 Innovation

I stand by this


Ooh I remember reading this, we're at the 6th game here, will you be correct?
maru lover forever
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 10:52:38
May 23 2013 10:52 GMT
#114
So good to be correct. Still, I have to admit I underestimated Symbol. I thought he would lose 4 games straigth but he managed to score 2 wins. Great achievement, no wonder he is the best out of ESF players.
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
May 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#115
the game would have been 4-0 if symbol didnt all in... he managed to get lucky and get two games off then innovation build tanks. tried going for bane/roach and failed.. 4-2. Innovation won.
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
May 23 2013 10:59 GMT
#116
Did not expect Inno will lose to that 2nd all in . Well still wins the series anyways. GL Inno!
AKMU / IU
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#117
I believe Symbol deserves a bit more credit then a 1-4 loss.
He's just so solid i don't ever see him getting crushed in long series.
Though i think Innovation will win it's going to be alot harder for him then it has been so far.

4-2 / 4-3 Innovation.
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
May 23 2013 11:13 GMT
#118
On May 23 2013 07:00 Gexs wrote:
Symbol 4-2


Lol you got the score right but not the name
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
May 23 2013 11:29 GMT
#119
On May 23 2013 06:44 AgentW wrote:
When are people going to start to recognize Symbol as one of the best in the world?

Symbol 4-3 Innovation


When Symbol 4:3 Innovation becomes something more than just dreams and/or joke
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
May 23 2013 11:33 GMT
#120
4-2 to the Nephalem Zerg!
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