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isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
May 23 2013 02:32 GMT
#61
TL and Artosis both really want to pick him to win, so that can't be good

Upon seeing that, I made my liquidbet choice....

However, I do seriously think Symbol has a chance even in macro games....he's really good!
I'm a mennonite, yes I'm allowed to use a computer
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
May 23 2013 02:40 GMT
#62
On May 23 2013 06:42 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 06:39 Fionn wrote:
If Symbol wins, we riot.

And by riot, I mean post angrily on a message board that ZvZ is stupid and that we're not going to watch it, but watch it anyways because we have nothing better to do.

lets just start already

zerg op fucking symbol QQ


what he said. HEY EVERYONE! RIOT
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
May 23 2013 02:41 GMT
#63
On May 23 2013 06:39 Fionn wrote:
If Symbol wins, we riot.

And by riot, I mean post angrily on a message board that ZvZ is stupid and that we're not going to watch it, but watch it anyways because we have nothing better to do.



I want symbol to win
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
May 23 2013 02:59 GMT
#64
On May 23 2013 08:54 largehadroncollider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 08:51 Ace Frehley wrote:
I wonder if there'll be too much rage if Symbol cheese Innovation out
That'd be amusing


Symbol will definitely cheese, perhaps the first 2 games, and then it all goes downhill for him.

That's why 4-1.
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
May 23 2013 03:03 GMT
#65
Man, I'm so scared because every time I think my chosen champion for the season has it, they tank. The last man I backed all the way to win it from pool play was MVP's title last year over Squirtle.

Still, like others have said, Innovation has to make Major mistakes (I'm so sorry for that, btw) in order to lose this series. If the combined power of Life, Roro, Flash, and Parting cannot stop him, I really don't see Symbol doing the trick, unless Symbol is way better than I remember him being and Innovation comes out much flatter than he looks in any matchup lately.

Innovation 4-2 Symbol, but the two games Symbol wins will be amazing all-ins that will haunt my ladder nightmares for weeks.
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
May 23 2013 03:15 GMT
#66
I really really hope Innovation wins. He is so good and deserves it.

But damn, Zerg are so strong. I think they have really figured out HotS faster than other races, and stomping Parting/Bomber so easily kind of shows it.
Paradisee
Profile Joined February 2013
United States37 Posts
May 23 2013 03:27 GMT
#67
Innovation 4-0.
And maybe there's no peace in this world, for us or for anyone else, I don't know. But I do know that, as long as we live, we must remain true to ourselves.
Meigas
Profile Joined March 2011
12 Posts
May 23 2013 03:31 GMT
#68
I'm sorry all Symbol fans, but Innovation is on a crazy roll right now. He is going to crush Symbol and it won't be close.
thegnome
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil68 Posts
May 23 2013 03:32 GMT
#69
omg, so much hype on Innovation

I wouldn't be surprised if symbol beats him, people keeping mentioning innovation has the best TvZ in the world but symbol's ZvT is insane too, and don't forget....it was Symbol who eliminated innovation in the last GSL
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
May 23 2013 03:38 GMT
#70
I want Symbol to win
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
May 23 2013 03:42 GMT
#71
I still don't understand this HPM measurement. How can the numbers be so high? Say you take HPM to mean hellbats per minute. Then a reasonable value would be maybe 1, for 15 hellbats made over 15 minutes. If you use it to mean Hellbats per Mineral, it gets even more confusing. Given that a player mines tens of thousands of minerals in a game and makes less than a hundred hellbats, I don't get how HPM values aren't like .0001 or something.
jjakji fan
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
May 23 2013 03:48 GMT
#72
Innovation over Roro was easy to predict because Roro plays very standard/macro/predictable, and Innovation just doesn't lose TvZ in normal games. That being said, Symbol will definitely try cheeses/allins because that's the only way I see him beating Innovation. Still

4-2 Innovation.
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
May 23 2013 03:57 GMT
#73
On May 23 2013 06:39 Fionn wrote:
If Symbol wins, we riot.

And by riot, I mean post angrily on a message board that ZvZ is stupid and that we're not going to watch it, but watch it anyways because we have nothing better to do.


We will riot hard, hahaha!
....
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
May 23 2013 04:04 GMT
#74
On May 23 2013 06:47 Zenbrez wrote:
Last GSL Symbol beat Innovation 3-2, actually. Still hoping for 4-0, I don't want this to be close. Save me the stress and disappointment!


that was WoL tho
oblivion awaits- dark archon (aka best unit ever)
DeCoder
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland236 Posts
May 23 2013 04:20 GMT
#75
Symbol! I believe!
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 04:34:37
May 23 2013 04:33 GMT
#76
Innovation vZ: 16-1 (94.12%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L W W W W W W W W <------- Brutal massacre for Symbol incoming. 4-0 !!
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 23 2013 04:35 GMT
#77
Well the last Ro4 contained all kinds of odd crap, don't see this one being any different.

Odd crap favors Symbol though so he could easily win 4 strange games.

Still gonna Liquibet Innovation because picking against him is dumb :p
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
May 23 2013 04:36 GMT
#78
Symbol craziest winning scenario:
Cheeses 4 games straight, wins in 15 minutes or less each game, Artosis flips the casters desk in disgust.

Innovation is at least a Terran who's living up to the hype (unlike that other one), so it'll be nice to see him progress. People are still underestimating Symbol though. He's shown he's far more than a 'patch Zerg'. Given his GSL consistency, and the fact that he knocked out Innovation last time, I think it'll be close.
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
May 23 2013 04:38 GMT
#79
Go Symbol Go ESF!
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
May 23 2013 04:41 GMT
#80
On May 23 2013 13:36 BoxingKangaroo wrote:
Innovation is at least a Terran who's living up to the hype (unlike that other one)

Who, Dayshi? He's actually been doing quite well for himself, I'd say.
jjakji fan
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