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[SPL] Round 5 Preview - Looking Back, Looking Forward

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SKPlanet PRoleague

Table of Contents



Team Check Ups
Tables galore


Week One Matches
Starters and maps


SK Planet Proleague table and results at Liquipedia

Team Check Ups



By: monk and Wunder.

Round 4 End Standings
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Four full rounds of Proleague are over and we now have a plethora of results we can analyze. The standings are really shaping up and we can begin to realistically project the winners and losers of proleague. And what better way to do it than with colorful tables inundated with enough numbers to make your head spin? Here's our brief report on the eight teams of the Proleague, starting from all 8th place EG-TL all the way to the consistently top team, Woongjin Stars.

Evil Geniuses- Team Liquid (10 – 18, -28 map score)

Lookback
PlayerRaceWoL Win - LossR4 Win - LossTotal Win - Loss
HerO10 - 104 - 514 - 15
Jaedong7 - 105 - 412 - 14
JYP10 - 102 - 412 - 14
TaeJa6 - 62 - 08 - 6
aLive0 - 03 - 43 - 4
Oz0 - 02 - 42 - 4
Revival4 - 90 - 24 - 11
Zenio2 - 61 - 13 - 7
ThorZaIN1 - 40 - 01 - 4
HuK0 - 20 - 10 - 3
Snute———
Stephano*6 - 5—6 - 5
PuMa*1 - 7—1 - 7
= Core players
= Supplementary players
= Mostly Bench warmers
= New addition
*Off team/not available to play


Oh EG-TL. With the addition of Coach Park, you burst back onto the scene with a quick 2-0 of some of the strongest teams out there, you then got 4-0d twice, once by the more traditional method, and once by throwing away a 3-0 lead to lose 4-3. It’s been an absolute rollercoaster for EG-TL this past round, and the ride isn’t stopping anytime soon. With 5 games between them and the top 4, EG-TL cannot afford any more mistakes. No longer can they allow (P)HerO to succumb to his nerves, or (Z)Jaedong to roll over to any Protoss player, or (T)TaeJa to simply not play even though he is plagued with a painful injury.

When looking at EG-TL's stats, there are a few key points to notice. First is that hardly anyone on the team has a positive record, with TaeJa and (Z)Stephano being the only exceptions. Of course, this is expected for the lowest placing team in the league. The second and perhaps more telling story is that unlike every other team in the league, EG-TL has no clear ace. Players jostle and jive for that ace slot, but at the end of the day, there's no one to lead the team to victory, no player the team can rely on for a "sure" victory. Having no ace to fall back on puts even more pressure on every player in the EG-TL lineup, as every map-loss could be the difference between a win and a loss.

EG-TL has to pull together and work out a strategy if they want to have any hope of conquering Proleague. With WCS NA looming, players may have to make the decision of leaving Proleague in favor of the individual leagues and that certainly cannot have a positive effect on Coach Park’s efforts in Korea. A glimmer of hope exists, however, and that comes in the form of Jens Aasgaard. The People’s Champion, (Z)Snute, having come off his WCS NA group win is travelling to the heart of America, South Korea, to attempt to enter a hyperbolic time chamber. We use that term mainly because the Ro16 for WCS NA starts in two weeks, so the amount of time Snute has to improve is a minuscule amount. Nevertheless, perhaps Coach Park will see the need to use Snute in a few Proleague matches and the Norwegian will get a taste of a real team league.

KeSPA 8th Team (11 – 17, -24 map score)

Lookback
PlayerRaceWoL Win - LossR4 Win - LossTotal Win - Loss
Argo(Jaehoon)14 - 135 - 319 - 16
Cure(Speed)12 - 132 - 414 - 17
Terminator(Sang)9 - 72 - 411 - 11
TY(Baby)8 - 131 - 49 - 17
Savage(Ryul2)6 - 100 - 36 - 13
TRUE(Alone)3 - 82 - 25 - 10
Check(ALBM)0 - 42 - 32 - 7
Pigbaby(HS)—1 - 01 - 0
Major———
Neige(Sherry)———
= Core players
= Supplementary players
= Mostly Bench warmers


This band of misfits may have coasted through on the first few rounds with par scores, but they took a beating this last round, going 2-5. Now, sequestered squarely at 7th place for the longest time, they are one loss away from taking EG-TL’s crown of thorns and assuming the true 8th place as the 8th team. On paper, their team is actually fairly strong - there is a good balance of all three races and each player has taken games off top tier pros. So what’s the issue?

While (P)Argo transitioned well, going 5-3 and sweating his way to victory, his teammates didn't get the memo. (T)TY, (T)Cure and (P)Terminator, all strong players in their own right, performed sub-par this round and just couldn't get the wins they sorely needed. The other big change for Team 8 in round 4 was that (Z)Savage stepped aside from being a core player for Team 8, letting his teammates, (Z)TRUE and (Z)check, do some Zerg heaving. They didn't perform spectacularly, but certainly better than Savage did this round.

Still, there is still hope for this group of broken toys. Round 2(the first all-kill round) was the best round Team 8 had, and with the second all-kill round on the horizon, this is their final chance to make a mark on the standings and make a final push towards the playoffs. With a reformed Check in its back pocket, and a potential workhorse in the form of (P)Pigbaby, Team 8 is poised for greatness.

CJ Entus (12 – 16, 0 map score)

Lookback
PlayerRaceWoL Win - LossR4 Win - LossTotal Win - Loss
herO17 - 95 - 422 - 13
Hydra18 - 102 - 520 - 15
Effort16 - 124 - 320 - 15
Bbyong4 - 73 - 37 - 10
Bong5 - 72 - 57 - 12
Skyhigh4 - 81 - 35 - 11
SonGDuri3 - 40 - 13 - 5
Snow———
rare0 - 20 - 10 - 3
Trust———
Bunny———
= Core players
= Supplementary players
= Mostly Bench warmers
= New addition


While STX has Samsung shadowing their every move, KT has CJ, and just like KT, CJ took a tumble and spiraled downwards last round, going 1-6, ending up at 6th place. With rumors of their captain (P)Leta taking a backseat role, and his removal from the roster, there may be some internal conflict within the ranks of CJ.

Truth be told, CJ probably shouldn't be at where they are now in 6th place. After all, they have three of the strongest players in the league, (P)herO, (Z)EffOrt, and (Z)Hydra. The problem is that the team is extremely dependent on these three players and should any of them falter, the whole team falters. The happened last round when Hydra (and to a certain extent, herO) slumped hard, bringing the team with him down in flames. With only two "sure" wins in each match last round, CJ was sure to fail.

Another problem that CJ faces is that they're one of the smallest teams in the league. To amend this issue, CJ has picked up a few recruits for this round and while they might not be as seasoned as KT's pickup, Puzzle, they still have some notches on their belt. CJ’s (P)Trust and (T)Bunny are the new recruits both have experience with Code A. In fact, Trust and Bunny both won their ro48 matches the other day, beating out MVP’s Dream and STX Soul’s Last respectively to advance to the next stage. So while they might not command the same presence as a PartinG or Puzzle, these guys have still shown they have what it takes to win games, and it may be exactly what CJ needs to pull off a comeback this round.

KT Rolster (14 – 14, +7 map score)

Lookback
PlayerRaceWoL Win - LossR4 Win - LossTotal Win - Loss
Flash19 - 113 - 522 - 16
Zest(P7GAB)11 - 65 - 216 - 8
Stats11 - 75 - 216 - 9
Crazy5 - 64 - 29 - 8
Action9 - 110 - 29 - 13
Hitman2 - 23 - 25 - 4
Motive1 - 2—1 - 2
MyuNgSiK1 - 10 - 31 - 4
miso———
Penguin———
Cacia—0 - 10 - 1
Baracks0 - 10 - 10 - 2
HoeJJa0 - 2—0 - 2
Mind0 - 3—0 - 3
Puzzle———
= Core players
= Supplementary players
= Mostly Bench warmers
= New addition


The red rangers are in disarray. While they managed to scrape by this round, KT Rolster has to pull together and play as a cohesive team for this last all-kill round, or else they’ll find themselves sitting next to EG-TL and Team 8 in the pit of despair. The elephant in the room in the KT house has to be (T)Flash’s performance in both individual and team leagues. He just got knocked out of the WCS Premier Division by two KeSPA players, Innovation and PartinG, and his Proleague performance has been poor as well. He went 3-5 last round, losing two ace matches in the process, which puts him 5th in his own team’s ranking. For someone that’s supposedly to be the Ultimate Weapon, he doesn’t seem to be doing a lot of damage as of late.

To compound the problem, KT's once solid Zerg, (Z)Action, has decided that he wants to start sucking at HotS as well. To fill his shoes are (Z)Crazy, and an unlikely hero in (Z)hitmaN. Though not as strong as the Action-Crazy combo in round 1, KT's current Zerg roster will do and shouldn't a huge concern for now...

In Flash's absence, his two lieutenants, (P)Stats and (P)Zest have taken up the mantle and have acted as a temporary tourniquet to stop KT from bleeding more losses and slipping further behind. A funny thing to note is the two KT Protoss twins have both been two of the most consistent players in the league, always scoring between three to five wins per round. Finally, Flash has a somewhat solid team behind him and now he's the wild card.

However, this round, KT decided that just two solid Protosses isn't enough. Having lost the raffle for Parting, KT decided that they'll have to make do with the ex-SlayerS player, (P)Puzzle, instead. Puzzle, coming off a stint of League of Legends, made his return appearance at Dreamhack Stockholm last weekend. He made it past the group stages and defeated many a European along the way. However, he hasn’t been put through the rigors of Proleague and there is no better environment than an all-kill format, where he has the potential to truly show off his skill. While KT may have had a rough time going over the hump, there’s only two more rounds left, and this is exactly the right time to make a push for the top four. KT have the players, the potential and the presence. Can they do it?

Samsung KHAN (15 – 13, -12 map score)

Lookback
PlayerRaceWoL Win - LossR4 Win - LossTotal Win - Loss
RorO16 - 105 - 021 - 10
Jangbi12 - 134 - 316 - 16
Stork12 - 162 - 414 - 20
Reality9 - 104 - 213 - 12
Turn2 - 42 - 24 - 6
Shine3 - 90 - 23 - 11
Kop0 - 22 - 02 - 2
Solar1 - 21 - 32 - 5
hOpe1 - 31 - 21 - 5
Juni———
oDin———
Trend———
= Core players
= Supplementary players
= Mostly Bench warmers
= New addition


While STX Soul was at the forefront of our coverage and was lapping up the praise and adoration from readers and writers alike, Samsung KHAN slipped under the radar. Just like STX Soul, KHAN had a rocky start, but kicked off the expansion with a bang, finishing second place at 5-2. Still relying on the (Z)RorO/(P)JangBi combo, they have managed to sharpen their roster and shaved off the chaff, with the decision to stop fielding Zergs such as (Z)Shine and hOpe, while putting their renewed faith in Terrans, such as (T)Kop and (T)TurN.

Speaking of going under the radar, (Z)RorO is one of the secret heroes of round 4. While everyone has been gushing about Innovation and Flash, GSL Champion RorO has been secretly dominating, going 5-0 in matches in round 4 with amazingly solid play. In fact, the only times Samsung lost in round 4 were when the other teams closed it out before RorO got his chance to play.

(T)Reality is another understated player in Samsung's line-up. In the first two round, he performed abysmally, going 3-9, on par with his teammate Shine. Unfortunately for him, many people's opinion of him were formed right then and there. But since then, Reality has steadily become a pillar of Samsung's success, turning everything completely around with a 10-3 record in rounds three and four. Reality now sits firmly in Samsung's top four and will be their go-to Terran in an all-kill format.

Going into the new round, Samsung will only have to field four players, so their reliance on Roro and Jangbi can continue unabated, and will probably work in their favor more so than other teams. Having picked up (P)Trend, it will be interesting to see if he gets any play time as there is little room to spare for the all-kill format. Similar to STX, Samsung is wasting no time with their first match, fielding Jangbi as their starter. However, Samsung’s coach has made some questionable decisions in this season so it would be no surprise to see her fielding Trend or even one of the lesser known players and give them a chance to play.

STX Soul (15 – 13, +7 map score)

Lookback
PlayerRaceWoL Win - LossR4 Win - LossTotal Win - Loss
Innovation17 - 115 - 222 - 13
Dear11 - 95 - 116 - 9
Trap7 - 94 - 211 - 11
hyvaa7 - 112 - 39 - 14
Last6 - 92 - 18 - 10
Classic3 - 64 - 17 - 7
Mini2 - 43 - 25 - 6
Bear2 - 0—2 - 0
Comet2 - 2—2 - 2
Youngjoo(Size)—1 - 01 - 0
Calm———
= Core players
= Supplementary players
= Mostly Bench warmers


STX Soul was the team of round 4, dropping only one match to Samsung KHAN. Like KT Rolster, STX is anchored around a single Terran, and while the earlier rounds featured (T)INnoVation shouldering the entire weight of the team, (P)Dear, (P)Trap, and newly converted Protoss, (P)Classic, have taken up some of the burden since. Meanwhile, (P)Mini and (Z)hyvaa bring up the rear. Somewhat missing from STX Soul’s newfound fame is the Terran, (T)Last, who, while making a few appearances and actually finishing the round with a positive win/loss, has been conspicuously absent compared to prior rounds.

Whether or not that will greatly affect STX Soul remains to be seen, as going into the next round, they will be riding a huge wave of momentum and will undoubtedly hope to keep pushing forward with their six match winning streak. Their first match is against EG-TL and they are not pulling any punches with their first game, immediately sending out their Terran ace. Whether or not this is a move to strike fear in the hearts of EG-TL or a calculative move to allow Innovation to prepare for his WCS Korea matches and allow the other Soul players to prepare to snipe the EG-TL players has yet to be revealed. But one thing is for sure. This starter match will be explosive from the start.

SK Telecom T1 (15 – 13, +13 map score)

Lookback
PlayerRaceWoL Win - LossR4 Win - LossTotal Win - Loss
Rain16 - 97 - 223 - 11
Fantasy14 - 135 - 119 - 14
Parting—4 - 34 - 3
soO12 - 90 - 412 - 13
s29 - 41 - 110 - 5
Sacsri6 - 50 - 16 - 6
Best4 - 72 - 05 - 7
ParalyzE5 - 40 - 15 - 5
Bisu1 - 22 - 23 - 4
Brown—2 - 32 - 3
JyJ1 - 3—1 - 3
Dark—0 - 10 - 1
Sorry0 - 1—0 - 1
Hyuk———
Journey———
= Core players
= Supplementary players
= Mostly Bench warmers


While the additions of (P)PartinG and (P)Brown gave SKT T1 the shot in the arm it needed to keep ahead of the pack, their overall result was underwhelming. The big telecom team was not able to capitalize on Woongjin’s few losses last round to get ahead in the pack and fell victim to the gripping mire that is EG-TL. At the end of round 4, SKT found themselves in a similar place as they did in round 3, tied with two other teams for second.

After the additions of Parting and Brown and the resurgence of (P)Bisu, SKT's roster is shaping out to look a lot like Woongjin Stars' with Protoss and Zergs galore. SKT now has six viable options to send for Protoss and four viable Zerg options (including (Z)Dark). Though this is great news for the team, it presents a problem for the individual players. Competition for line-up slots will be fierce, especially in the all-kill format which only allows for a maximum of four players per match. This is especially saddening for the SKT Zergs who carried the team throughout round 3, but now hardly ever get any screen-time.

Also, poor Bisu fans.

Woongjin Stars (20 – 8, +37 map score)

Lookback
PlayerRaceWoL Win - LossR4 Win - LossTotal Win - Loss
sOs18 - 84 - 322 - 11
Soulkey11 - 77 - 118 - 8
ZerO14 - 93 - 417 - 13
Light5 - 44 - 29 - 6
free12 - 51 - 213 - 7
Bravo(sin)7 - 31 - 08 - 3
Flying4 - 42 - 36 - 7
Aria(Nagi)1 - 00 - 21 - 2
Mekia(fOKINS)1 - 1-1 - 1
Hanbin0 - 1—0 - 1
Rudy0 - 1—0 - 1
KassiA———
Organ(Piano) ———
Swift ———
BisanG0 - 1—0 - 1
= Core players
= Supplementary players
= Mostly Bench warmers
Removed from roster


Woongjin Stars finished third last round, a first for the team that was dominating Proleague throughout the first three rounds. Looking at their line-up and comparing it to previous rounds, you can see that nothing much has really changed with how they approach their matches. They have their core established very well, with (Z)Soulkey, (Z)ZerO, (P)sOs and (T)Light all showing up to play for every match. On the sidelines you have great players like (P)Flying and (P)free making frequent appearances as well, usually to close out their full arsenal of six, but lurking in the wings are budding players like (T)BrAvO and (P)Aria, who both appeared twice last round.

Even after a sub-par round, Woongjin Stars still resides firmly at the top of the pack, five whole matches ahead of the stragglers. Barring a colossal meltdown by at least two of its player, Woongjin Stars will finish first, gaining a seed directly into the Proleague finals. In short, Woongjin Stars remains boring old dominating Woongjin Stars. Nothing to see here, folks.

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Week 1 Matches

by monk



May 4


KT Rolster vs Woongjin Stars
(P)Stats < Whirlwind LE > (Z)Soulkey

Samsung KHAN vs CJ Entus
(P)JangBi < Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct > (Z)Hydra

May 5


KeSPA 8th Team vs SK Telecom T1
(T)Cure < Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct > (Z)s2

EG-TL vs STX Soul
(P)HerO < Whirlwind LE > (T)INnoVation


May 6


KT Rolster vs Samsung KHAN
(P)Zest < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (P)Stork

Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus
(Z)Mekia < Naro Station SE > (T)Bbyong

May 7


SK Telecom T1 vs STX Soul
(P)Brown < Neo Planet S > (Z)hyvaa






Things to watch out for this week
  • Will Innovation all-kill EG-TL?
    I'm sure you've heard. It was all over the news. (T)INnoVation blasted through the group of death, taking first place. For this feat alone, many consider him the best player in the world. This week, he is matched up against the worst team in the league, EG-TL. So the question in everyone's mind is: will this seemingly likely all-kill happen?

  • The Hidden Danger
    Innovation and Flash. sOs and Rain. Parting? RorO? That's all anyone talks about when asked about KeSPa players. However, there exist other KeSPa players, some that are less talked about but are equally as good. The star of the last round for Stars was (Z)Soulkey, who ended with a 7-1 record, beating both (T)Flash and (T)INnoVation on the way to do so. Soulkey is rumored to be the best KeSPa Zerg (take that, RorO) and his starting against KT Rolster will be his chance to prove it. Who knows, we might even get to see a rematch against Flash.

  • Regenerating Ahead
    CJ Entus is in trouble. One of their star players, (Z)Hydra, slumped hard last round, bringing CJ down with him. Hydra is sent out first against CJ's first foe in Samsung KHAN and it's Hydra's chance to prove he has what it takes to be a pillar for his team. Hydra first made his mark for CJ in the first all-kill format where he finished with a 10-4 record, including an all-kill of STX Soul. The second all-kill round will be his perfect chance to redeem himself.


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Writers: monk. and Wunder.
Graphics: HawaiianPig.
Editors: monk.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6328 Posts
May 03 2013 20:27 GMT
#2
Oh poor EGTL...
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Colpan
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States196 Posts
May 03 2013 20:27 GMT
#3
Woongjin says Flying and Flying o.0 Flying and Free?
QuellaX
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands29 Posts
May 03 2013 20:28 GMT
#4
sOs so strong.
AmuseD
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands133 Posts
May 03 2013 20:28 GMT
#5
Once again, I enjoy reading these topics.

What happend to bisang btw? Why did he got removed from the roster? Sorry if this question has already been answered.
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Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
May 03 2013 20:32 GMT
#6
Match on January 7 ? :D
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smogg
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria167 Posts
May 03 2013 20:40 GMT
#7
C'mon HerO, you can do it! TaeJa did it and so can you! Honestly, if HerO beats Innovation, then he'll probably all-kill. But if he loses, then EGTL might get all-killed T.T
Things are really bad for EGTL, btw. They're gonna need 11 or 12 victories out of the 14 remaining matches to get to 4th place...
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pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
May 03 2013 20:41 GMT
#8
My heart does not want Innovation to all kill EGTL. My fantasy league however, is a different story...
TheSayo182
Profile Joined September 2012
Italy243 Posts
May 03 2013 20:56 GMT
#9
lol somebody knows where is puma now?
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
May 03 2013 20:59 GMT
#10
Will innovation all-kill EGTL?

Yes.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 03 2013 21:15 GMT
#11
wow, nice and detailed
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poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
May 03 2013 21:15 GMT
#12
I am happy to see that the Kespa teams are dominating the top seven spots. =)
Vronti
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States111 Posts
May 03 2013 21:23 GMT
#13
On May 04 2013 05:41 pak150 wrote:
My heart does not want Innovation to all kill EGTL. My fantasy league however, is a different story...

Definitely in agreement with you there haha. Love the writeup! The more numbers the better
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Profile Joined March 2012
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Last Edited: 2013-05-03 21:53:00
May 03 2013 21:41 GMT
#14
It's a shame that EG-TL has such a line-up of unavailable players. No stephano(honestly I'm a bit bitter towards stephano for being so whiny and ditching his team to pursue self-glory that isn't there anymore), no thorzain, no demuslim, and Taeja is terribly inconsistent popping in and out with his injuries. They need at least one more reliable good terran, since the true terran count is 1.5(alive, sometimes taeja). Alive is good but they need another star terran.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 03 2013 21:44 GMT
#15
I feel so bad about HerO's win/loss record. He gets sent out against the opposing team's ace almost every match but he does a great job for EGTL. If Taeja could play more consistently and alternate with HerO in the ace slot I can see both of their records improving and by extension that of the team as well.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
May 03 2013 21:49 GMT
#16
There's a typo in the first sentence, where "and with" should be "with and". I hope to say this politely, but these articles would be even better than they already are with a little more time spent checking for grammatical errors. There have consistently been a few mistakes in almost every single article I've read lately (meaning SC2 articles).
jjakji fan
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
May 03 2013 22:01 GMT
#17
<3 your <3 for proleague
Shawters
Profile Joined October 2012
France26 Posts
May 03 2013 22:13 GMT
#18
Maybe the all-kill format will give a new chance for EG-TL to get back in this league.

GOGO Samsung KHAN and EG-TL!
XupinatoR
Profile Joined July 2011
Spain125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 22:16:15
May 03 2013 22:15 GMT
#19
"Also, poor Bisu fans"

I agre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D41Re9_AqL0
fr4nk1sh
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden59 Posts
May 03 2013 22:29 GMT
#20
Wow that picture say alot.. i can only wish they will do better!!
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
May 03 2013 22:34 GMT
#21
Good job monk
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
May 03 2013 22:40 GMT
#22
great read!

I go to sleep now so I can catch the matches in 4 hours xD
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
May 03 2013 23:00 GMT
#23
Ok now someone make a team with (P)HerO, (Z)Hydra, (Z)EffOrt, (T)Flash, (P)Stats, (Z)RorO, (T)INnoVation, (P)Rain, (T)FanTaSy, (P)sOs, (Z)Soulkey and rape whole proleague. Thats some decent balance of races among the best players.
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
May 03 2013 23:08 GMT
#24
Damn, EGTL with a tough battle. Innovation looked stellar in his Code S group. Really hope EG-TL can pull it off, they need a win.
choo choo
Profile Joined May 2013
United States15 Posts
May 03 2013 23:10 GMT
#25
KT Rolster not messing around with their starters. Sending out two of the most consistent players in proleague, damn.
"Choo Choo, muhfukkas!!"
heartagram
Profile Joined May 2013
178 Posts
May 03 2013 23:19 GMT
#26
I really like these writers. I sensed no bias towards EG-TL, or any team, and the writing was coherent, professional, and informative.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 23:39:21
May 03 2013 23:38 GMT
#27
I wish Stephano would go back and play some more Proleague. Hero, Jaedong, JYP, Taeja and Stephano would be a really solid lineup.

And the all-kill format is where he really shines.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
May 04 2013 00:02 GMT
#28
Really nice writeup. I can't wait for the round to start!
BW forever || Thall
nktiep
Profile Joined December 2010
Vietnam40 Posts
May 04 2013 00:44 GMT
#29
sos so strong @@
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
May 04 2013 01:00 GMT
#30
Funny how Major of all people is the only player on Team 8 with just one ID in the table.
http://www.twitter.com/Paragleiber
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
May 04 2013 01:09 GMT
#31
does anyone happen to know if ZerO or light are attempting to qualify for GSL/WCS?
because they are straight up great players who are at least code A level.
oblivion awaits- dark archon (aka best unit ever)
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
May 04 2013 01:26 GMT
#32
Nice writeup. Thx for it

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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 04 2013 01:28 GMT
#33
On May 04 2013 07:13 Shawters wrote:
Maybe the all-kill format will give a new chance for EG-TL to get back in this league.

GOGO Samsung KHAN and EG-TL!


Not when they go up against Innovation. :p
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
May 04 2013 01:43 GMT
#34
SKT went from a Terran Powerhouse to a Protoss Powerhouse
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
May 04 2013 01:46 GMT
#35
Love it, very detailed and neat, thank you monk!
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
May 04 2013 02:07 GMT
#36
Go Fantashy! Also, BoxeR seems to have a LOT of faith in Brown
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
May 04 2013 03:16 GMT
#37
I love all-kill format!
指原莉乃 應援
OneRaceToRuleThemAll
Profile Joined May 2013
2 Posts
May 04 2013 04:39 GMT
#38
Is there a MOD that can help me or someone point me in the right direction...

I created a fantasy team under this name and it looked fine. Then during the middle of tonight's SPL, it disappeared.

I just want to know why and if I can get back the team I spent a good while creating.

Thanks to anyone who can assist.

ImMortalABP
Profile Joined May 2011
United States4 Posts
May 04 2013 04:45 GMT
#39
Alright.... my fantasy team got deleted in the middle of the matches... is this the case for everyone? Does my team still exist and just say it doesn't? Fantasy makes me pay so much more attention to these matches and I really hope my team is still there.
Im Mortal
OneRaceToRuleThemAll
Profile Joined May 2013
2 Posts
May 04 2013 04:51 GMT
#40
yea man, i know. I created two additional ones and both of them got deleted...
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
May 04 2013 07:13 GMT
#41
On May 04 2013 08:38 BronzeKnee wrote:
I wish Stephano would go back and play some more Proleague. Hero, Jaedong, JYP, Taeja and Stephano would be a really solid lineup.

And the all-kill format is where he really shines.

When has Stephano ever played in an all-kill format?
jjakji fan
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 04 2013 07:15 GMT
#42
On May 04 2013 16:13 slowbacontron wrote:
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On May 04 2013 08:38 BronzeKnee wrote:
I wish Stephano would go back and play some more Proleague. Hero, Jaedong, JYP, Taeja and Stephano would be a really solid lineup.

And the all-kill format is where he really shines.

When has Stephano ever played in an all-kill format?

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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
May 04 2013 07:15 GMT
#43
Never mind, I remembered incorrectly that he started in R3.
jjakji fan
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
May 04 2013 08:40 GMT
#44
God the WCS is really going to ruin so many plans.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
May 04 2013 09:09 GMT
#45
Flash must become most win player!
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 04 2013 10:25 GMT
#46
Man, here I was thinking that AK format would finally deliver us from PvProleague but...

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4 of the first 10 matches have been PvP's, no better than regular proleague. Well I still think AK is more exciting but I know I'm in the minority...

slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
May 04 2013 17:25 GMT
#47
On May 04 2013 19:25 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Man, here I was thinking that AK format would finally deliver us from PvProleague but...

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4 of the first 10 matches have been PvP's, no better than regular proleague. Well I still think AK is more exciting but I know I'm in the minority...


I'd guess that in the end it really does come down to the maps, even in AK format.
jjakji fan
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
May 04 2013 17:53 GMT
#48
Innovation can't all-kill because he's terrible vs Protoss. 28% winrate vs P is quite bad. In GSL he's lucky there aren't that many Protosses left so he has a chance but the Proleague is full of Protosses...
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
May 04 2013 22:16 GMT
#49
On May 05 2013 02:53 p14c wrote:
Innovation can't all-kill because he's terrible vs Protoss. 28% winrate vs P is quite bad. In GSL he's lucky there aren't that many Protosses left so he has a chance but the Proleague is full of Protosses...

He's not terrible vs Protoss. It's his 2nd best match up on ladder, like 70% win rate.
| SaSe | Naniwa |Stephano | LucifroN | Mvp | MarineKing | ByuN | Polt | MC | Parting |
theseraph
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
May 04 2013 23:06 GMT
#50
did i miss the sign ups for this round?
Some motherfuckers always tryina skate uphill.
Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
May 05 2013 02:53 GMT
#51
On May 04 2013 08:38 BronzeKnee wrote:
I wish Stephano would go back and play some more Proleague. Hero, Jaedong, JYP, Taeja and Stephano would be a really solid lineup.

And the all-kill format is where he really shines.


Does he really still shine though? His performances at IEM, MLG, and Dreamhack have all been lacking.
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
May 05 2013 22:42 GMT
#52
i'm positive there won't be an inno all kill against tl
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
May 06 2013 02:32 GMT
#53
INnoVation got all killed OMG :O
指原莉乃 應援
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 06 2013 11:32 GMT
#54
Hm? Major wasn't even send out once? But I'm sure I've seen clips of him playing... :o
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
May 07 2013 00:10 GMT
#55
On May 06 2013 20:32 JustPassingBy wrote:
Hm? Major wasn't even send out once? But I'm sure I've seen clips of him playing... :o

He played in The Special!
jjakji fan
starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
May 07 2013 04:14 GMT
#56
wait i havent been watching as much as i wish when did they move back to the all kill format
i came here to kickass and chew bubblegum and i'm all out of bubble gum
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 07 2013 04:20 GMT
#57
On May 07 2013 13:14 starslayer wrote:
wait i havent been watching as much as i wish when did they move back to the all kill format

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