• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:34
CET 12:34
KST 20:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation13Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Zerg is losing its identity in StarCraft 2 Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 3 Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What happened to TvZ on Retro? SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1985 users

[SPL] Round 4 Week 4 Review - Frustration - Page 3

Forum Index > News
49 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 01 2013 21:53 GMT
#41
wow... that picture of coach Park just make me feel even more depressing. I dont really think adding Snute into the line up would change anything but it is still a bit of hope.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 01 2013 21:58 GMT
#42
How many more losses until EG-TL is mathematically eliminated?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
May 01 2013 22:12 GMT
#43
On May 02 2013 06:58 Plexa wrote:
How many more losses until EG-TL is mathematically eliminated?

There will be n + x losses until that point, where n is the number of actual EG-TL losses from this point forward and x is a finite, positive number.

n + y will be the number of losses until EG-TL would actually be eliminated from the playoffs, where y is also a finite, positive number but less than x.

TLDR: EG-TL will make the playoffs.
Plat Support Main #believe
patronage
Profile Joined October 2011
Iraq123 Posts
May 01 2013 22:26 GMT
#44
Is this a picture just of coach park scratching his nose, that looks like he is frustrated when taken out of context?
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
May 01 2013 23:22 GMT
#45
On May 02 2013 06:58 Plexa wrote:
How many more losses until EG-TL is mathematically eliminated?


Lets ignore top 3 teams to simplify things a bit:

If
4th loses all future games
5th loses all future games, except 2 against 4th
6th loses all future games, except 4 against 4th/5th
7th loses all future games, except 6 against 4th/5th/6th

Then the end result would be:
Current 4th: 15 wins ( +1 win against EG-TL)
Current 5th: 16 wins
Current 6th: 16 wins
Current 7th: 17 wins

15th and 17th could trade a win, making everyone have 16 wins, but it does not matter since to get the max amount of losses (7), one of the EG-TL games must be lost to the current 4th-7th team.
So basically, EG-TL could share 4th/5th place with 17 wins, and then could win with map point.

So the answer is, if everything aligns perfectly, 7 wins is enough, as soon as one of the games plays out in a non-ideal fashion for EG-TL that number goes up tho.
Realistically they would need 11-12 and then some luck.

Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
May 01 2013 23:33 GMT
#46
haha poor coach park!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10236 Posts
May 02 2013 00:02 GMT
#47
khan doesnt deserve that spot. -12? really? owell...

kt really needs to be at least third after starting hot. please flash....
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 02 2013 07:10 GMT
#48
Hahahah love that you guys stuck that awesome pic of Coach Park on the frontpage. Sums up EG-TL's season, everything, in one poignant moment.

Even if EG-TL aren't mathematically eliminated yet, a playoff miracle is certainly beyond them now. It looked like Coach Park might be able to turn it around at the start, but EG-TL have fallen back into their old ways, going 3-4, losing their last game of the round, just like in the first two rounds. The only thing left to play for is respect and somehow trying to avoid last place, but when a team have nothing else to play for, the will to win usually disappears.

I think Coach Park has to take his share of the blame given that he's been unable to address their consistency issues and he hasn't improved on the previous rounds' performances, but a lot of it comes down to the players simply not being good enough. I think everyone underestimated the Kespa players b/c they didn't look that strong when they were still in the process of migrating to sc2, but they improved by leaps and bounds every day, and now it's abundantly clear that they are fucking good. I think any of the ESF teams would struggle in Proleague too, although not as badly as EG-TL.

Anyway now I know what it's like to cheer for a relegation-threatened side like QPR.
Pegas
Profile Joined April 2012
Romania211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 11:07:37
May 02 2013 11:07 GMT
#49
That pic is coach Park reaction after Oz losing on a 100% win rate for protoss map.

Now seems like EGTL is playing in jumps , I mean they have some incredible wins against better rated players ( meaning there is the potential) but they lack consistency (they underperform against others), so if coach Park somehow can adress the inconsistency there is still hope for the playoffs.

So I think with a bit of patience and better mindset they will start to perform very well. I still have hope for EGTL.
As a rule, men worry more about what they can't see than about what they can
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 02 2013 18:49 GMT
#50
WJ still on top :D. after years of being a WJ fan finally we are in the spotlight!!
savior did nothing wrong
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
10:00
Group D
Reynor vs MaruLIVE!
sOs vs Ryung
Crank 1281
Tasteless898
ComeBackTV 657
IndyStarCraft 211
Rex123
3DClanTV 41
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #113
Solar vs TBD
Classic vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings62
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Crank 1281
Tasteless 898
Reynor 314
IndyStarCraft 211
Rex 123
Railgan 20
MindelVK 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38368
Rain 9152
Sea 6456
GuemChi 3615
Horang2 1778
BeSt 593
Soma 433
Stork 394
EffOrt 306
Mini 255
[ Show more ]
Killer 239
Last 234
Rush 182
Hyun 158
yabsab 80
hero 61
Bonyth 56
Mind 49
Barracks 48
zelot 41
Sharp 31
Sea.KH 28
Shinee 18
NotJumperer 15
scan(afreeca) 11
Hm[arnc] 10
Bale 9
Dota 2
singsing1793
XaKoH 488
XcaliburYe394
Counter-Strike
fl0m4246
zeus738
SPUNJ551
x6flipin398
byalli198
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor181
Other Games
summit1g14534
FrodaN4379
B2W.Neo1150
Fuzer 294
KnowMe209
Pyrionflax191
Dewaltoss15
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream9765
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream1695
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV549
League of Legends
• Stunt538
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
26m
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
26m
BSL 21
8h 26m
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
8h 26m
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
11h 26m
Wardi Open
1d
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 5h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
BSL: GosuLeague
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
BSL: GosuLeague
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.