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hangarninetysix
Profile Joined August 2010
263 Posts
May 01 2013 18:25 GMT
#21
3-4 is still worlds better than what they were doing the last round. EG-TL really should have at least taken the last match to ace. Revival's build order had the game won, he had to work to lose that one.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
May 01 2013 18:35 GMT
#22
Horrible ending for EG-TL.
Can't blame Coach Park. I believe he helped a lot. I saw a great increase after he came in.

Just keep practicing and working. You guys can do it next season!
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 18:40:11
May 01 2013 18:38 GMT
#23
I don't really see how there can be frustration...

I mean, Coach Park is truly awesome, and there are very talented players (they have at least one or two line-ups that can definitely win matches), but it won't magically change from losing everything to winning everything !

Coach Park said they improved the way they trained, and it showed, EG-TL had its best performance in a long time ! Round 3, they were 1 - 6 and at -19 !

On May 02 2013 03:35 SHOOG wrote:
Horrible ending for EG-TL.


They ended two place higher this round than the previous one... (round standings, not overall). I don't call that horrible...
LiquipediaWanderer
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
May 01 2013 18:45 GMT
#24
On May 02 2013 03:17 Empirimancer wrote:
It's ok Coach Park, we all know you're doing your best with what you were given.



Blaming the players when they lose and give all the credit to the coach when they win seems to be the trend here.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 19:07:39
May 01 2013 19:03 GMT
#25
On May 02 2013 03:35 SHOOG wrote:
Horrible ending for EG-TL.
Can't blame Coach Park. I believe he helped a lot. I saw a great increase after he came in.

Just keep practicing and working. You guys can do it next season!


*rolls eyes* I think the rise of STX would be a more fitting title for this weeks review. Round 4 was the STX Soul show. Don't steal their thunder. EG-TL is right where they're going to be.

On May 02 2013 03:45 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:17 Empirimancer wrote:
It's ok Coach Park, we all know you're doing your best with what you were given.



Blaming the players when they lose and give all the credit to the coach when they win seems to be the trend here.


Don't even bother trying to understand the fan boys because it will just make your head spin.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 01 2013 19:07 GMT
#26
EG-TL still has some hope!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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sCFade
Profile Joined September 2010
307 Posts
May 01 2013 19:11 GMT
#27
On May 02 2013 03:45 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:17 Empirimancer wrote:
It's ok Coach Park, we all know you're doing your best with what you were given.



Blaming the players when they lose and give all the credit to the coach when they win seems to be the trend here.


I dunno about that. The last coach was getting flamed pretty fucking hard, probably more than the players were.
iViNtaGe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States254 Posts
May 01 2013 19:31 GMT
#28
LOL traded for Wooki and look at what i get lol.
Favorite Players: Bomber | Maru | Life | PartinG | InnoVation | Bbyong
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 19:37:12
May 01 2013 19:35 GMT
#29
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 02 2013 03:38 Ragnarork wrote:
I don't really see how there can be frustration...

I mean, Coach Park is truly awesome, and there are very talented players (they have at least one or two line-ups that can definitely win matches), but it won't magically change from losing everything to winning everything !

Coach Park said they improved the way they trained, and it showed, EG-TL had its best performance in a long time ! Round 3, they were 1 - 6 and at -19 !

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:35 SHOOG wrote:
Horrible ending for EG-TL.



They ended two place higher this round than the previous one... (round standings, not overall). I don't call that horrible...




Maybe I am being misinterpreted?
Horrible ending to proleague as a whole.
Many of us had high hopes for them and this season just did not turn out the way we planed.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 01 2013 19:48 GMT
#30
More like unrealistic expectations. This was a better round for them. You should be looking at the positives instead of the negatives and I find it funny how everyone is projecting this week 4 review is all about EG-TL, which it isn't. Notice how they called out several teams. KT and CJ had a very poor round four. Final preps for playoffs boys. Pick it up!
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
May 01 2013 20:10 GMT
#31
On May 02 2013 04:35 SHOOG wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 02 2013 03:38 Ragnarork wrote:
I don't really see how there can be frustration...

I mean, Coach Park is truly awesome, and there are very talented players (they have at least one or two line-ups that can definitely win matches), but it won't magically change from losing everything to winning everything !

Coach Park said they improved the way they trained, and it showed, EG-TL had its best performance in a long time ! Round 3, they were 1 - 6 and at -19 !

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:35 SHOOG wrote:
Horrible ending for EG-TL.



They ended two place higher this round than the previous one... (round standings, not overall). I don't call that horrible...




Maybe I am being misinterpreted?
Horrible ending to proleague as a whole.
Many of us had high hopes for them and this season just did not turn out the way we planed.

Maybe so,
at least i am confused, it might be because english isn't my 1st language but Proleague season doesnt end, and its not over yet.
We have 2 more Rounds to go before this season ends.
So there is still some hope left :3
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
Aleteh
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark166 Posts
May 01 2013 20:26 GMT
#32
Im looking forward to the normal Winners League format in round 5, hopefully they get to get some good match scores.

Having players that seem to perform on and off might be a good thing. HerO, TaeJa, Alive and Oz could if they hit the day perform all-kills. Here's to hoping!
The Tyrant
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
May 01 2013 20:28 GMT
#33
I think Innovation vs Effort was a great match, but I felt Innovation vs Soulkey was less than spectacular. It was close, no doubt, but they both played rather flawed, sadly. Innovation's micro wasn't exactly "superb"....

So glad to see STX dominate this round, though. Do you guys know how amazing a Proleague grand finals would be with STX Soul in there? I'd actually like to see KT Rolster vs STX, with a Flash vs Innovation match in there, but what are the odds?
IneptFromRussia
Profile Joined December 2012
Russian Federation14 Posts
May 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#34
EG-TL honestly did pretty well, i mean they have the same record this round as KT, 3-4, that's not bad. If TaeJa was healthy and always present they would probably be even stronger. And Coach Park is as good of a coach as they go, i mean leading SKT1 to 4 proleague finals in a row is no joke. But after a certain point it all comes down to the players, and i genuinely believe that EG-TL is a strong middle ground team, they can place 5th in overall rankings after all said and done. Playoffs? Probably no.
smogg
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria167 Posts
May 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#35
EGTL needs to win at least 12 out of the 14 remaining games to advance... T.T Several miracles are going to have to happen.
LiquidHerO, LiquidTaeJa, EG.JD.RC, sCfou, ST_Life, KT_Flash, WJS_Soulkey, NaniWa, SK.MC, AZUBU.SuperNova, SKT1_FanTaSy
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
May 01 2013 20:53 GMT
#36
On May 02 2013 05:48 smogg wrote:
EGTL needs to win at least 12 out of the 14 remaining games to advance... T.T Several miracles are going to have to happen.

Are you sure that is correct? Because if certain other teams lose all of their matches against certain opponents and EG-TL wins, they might not need that many.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 01 2013 20:58 GMT
#37
On May 02 2013 05:53 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 05:48 smogg wrote:
EGTL needs to win at least 12 out of the 14 remaining games to advance... T.T Several miracles are going to have to happen.

Are you sure that is correct? Because if certain other teams lose all of their matches against certain opponents and EG-TL wins, they might not need that many.

EG-TL has quite a low map score, they probably will need to advance on match score alone
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
tl2212
Profile Joined April 2013
Belize731 Posts
May 01 2013 21:34 GMT
#38
Soulkey is Code s level, obviously?
EG-TL needs to send zenio, hero, and jyp in 1 match (+ taeja maybe?)
economy over everything
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
May 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#39
The STX soul loss was heavily influenced by the WCS NA qualifiers, so it could have bee easily 4-3.
And the ro16/ro8 will likely result in 2-3 more losses that might have been victories.

They could have had a chance, if they had just picked WCS KR. But no way they are going to advance with trying to play on two continents.

Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
May 01 2013 21:49 GMT
#40
Guys, guys. Liquid`Snute is coming.

Keep on believing Let's see what the boys in (shades of) blue can do with Coach Park and @EGtrotRC and Hwanni!
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