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MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
May 30 2006 22:56 GMT
#21
... dweb doesnt stop lurker...
antrax
Profile Joined July 2005
Peru191 Posts
May 31 2006 00:22 GMT
#22
Maelstrom doesn't, Dweb does it ...
Deep tech
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
May 31 2006 07:56 GMT
#23
Ok, well then I'll just assume that I am all knowing and Chojja is a pussy.

If any of you still want to comment on the game please do. Game one still confuses the hell out of me.
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
May 31 2006 14:09 GMT
#24
honestly im going to say that i didnt like your chojja vs stork reports, sorry.
i think you spent too much time defending/praising stork and ignoring the battles where chojja came out on top. you said chojja was the passive one this game, but he cant have literally built sunkens for 45 minutes while stork continued to suicide units against him, if thats the case then stork wasnt exactly playing the better game was he?

bias is fine, but youre going overboard here. I noticed the same thing with your previous report involving stork, but i didnt comment because you didnt ask for it

as for his premature leaving, stork may have underestimated his position at the end, concluded that he had no chance and just left, instead of playing it until the very end and trying to take hold of whatever hope he had left

i cant really say for sure though, since i havent seen the game. if its still active on the tracker ill download game one and check it out for myself, since it seems somewhat interesting
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-31 17:43:27
May 31 2006 17:40 GMT
#25
Stork does deserve Praise.
I think he is the second best toss right now after Ra.
Maybe Kingdom is doing better this Season too but
Stork is the toss equivalent in status to Jju for Zerg.
On the Verge of Legendom.

But Yeah, I forgot game one but game 2 ~_~ Stork got beat...
That DAMN HATCH.. gaw... Even then, ~_~

Stork is my new Toss Champion along with Kingdom ~_~.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
June 01 2006 07:18 GMT
#26
On May 31 2006 23:09 SoMuchBetter wrote:
honestly im going to say that i didnt like your chojja vs stork reports, sorry.
i think you spent too much time defending/praising stork and ignoring the battles where chojja came out on top. you said chojja was the passive one this game, but he cant have literally built sunkens for 45 minutes while stork continued to suicide units against him, if thats the case then stork wasnt exactly playing the better game was he?

bias is fine, but youre going overboard here. I noticed the same thing with your previous report involving stork, but i didnt comment because you didnt ask for it

as for his premature leaving, stork may have underestimated his position at the end, concluded that he had no chance and just left, instead of playing it until the very end and trying to take hold of whatever hope he had left

i cant really say for sure though, since i havent seen the game. if its still active on the tracker ill download game one and check it out for myself, since it seems somewhat interesting


Thank you for the comment. Honestly, this is what I was going for. You're right, Chojja had some well timed drops, but there were only a couple and they were late in the game after Stork had already lost noticable momentum to the sunken gayness.

Watch the game and post again with a more informed opinion. (I'm guessing you're basing this post on the live reports?) I'd like to see some people praise specific moves by Chojja and defend his play style in a solid way.

This game displayed some of the main issues that people seem to have with PvZ (in some of our discussion threads) so it's a good place to put an example to the whining and defending.

Please guys, be critical. It's the only way anything ever gets accomplished or learned.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
June 01 2006 07:19 GMT
#27
On June 01 2006 02:40 SuperJongMan wrote:
Stork does deserve Praise.
I think he is the second best toss right now after Ra.
Maybe Kingdom is doing better this Season too but
Stork is the toss equivalent in status to Jju for Zerg.
On the Verge of Legendom.

But Yeah, I forgot game one but game 2 ~_~ Stork got beat...
That DAMN HATCH.. gaw... Even then, ~_~

Stork is my new Toss Champion along with Kingdom ~_~.


I agree with this too. I was one of the people ragging on Stork during his first OSL appearance where he played like the Protoss version of Doggi, and he's won me over since then. I really really like how he plays and would go so far as to say that he's the best Toss out there right now.
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
June 01 2006 09:26 GMT
#28
Based off one OSL and one not terrible MSL? I thought Pusan was supposed to be protoss' new hope
Trucy Wright is hot
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
June 01 2006 11:08 GMT
#29
I'm not saying that he's going to stay like this, but right now if I had to pick one toss player to defend the race in a race war, TODAY, I'd pick Stork.

He's solid, aggressive, well praciticed and generally fucking good.

I guess I'm just really enamoured with him right now but the kid plays well and deserves it.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
June 01 2006 11:09 GMT
#30
Also, I'm not giving up on Pusan. Anyone can have a rough group stage.

I still won't stop ragging on his PvZ though. Best match up my foot!
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
June 01 2006 23:39 GMT
#31
i just watched chojja vs stork game one, and i have to ask this, but how closely did you pay attention at the end?
stork was left with a grand total of something like 3 archons, 2 shuttles, a couple of obs and a single digit probe count sitting next to a nexus that was still morphing. Chojja had 4 mining islands, and probably the capacity to churn out units like no tomorrow as well. stork had literally nothing,

stork played a great early to mid game, but couldnt gain the advantage he needed and was left with one expansion. Once he was out of steam, he spent the rest of the game being pushed around by chojja.

Chojja's drops were really nice. Sending in queens to clear out templars on stork's islands before moving in his lords is really pimp (has he always done this sort of thing, or am i a little out of touch?)

i loved the fact that stork had no templars for the second half of the game because of chojja's broodling usage. just wanted to point that out
AUSSIESCUM
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
June 02 2006 06:36 GMT
#32
Very good points.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 02 2006 13:20 GMT
#33
On June 01 2006 02:40 SuperJongMan wrote:
Stork does deserve Praise.
I think he is the second best toss right now after Ra.
Maybe Kingdom is doing better this Season too but
Stork is the toss equivalent in status to Jju for Zerg.
On the Verge of Legendom.

But Yeah, I forgot game one but game 2 ~_~ Stork got beat...
That DAMN HATCH.. gaw... Even then, ~_~

Stork is my new Toss Champion along with Kingdom ~_~.

My redeition of the old toss kings vs the new toss kings
Kingdom -> stork
ra -> anytime
reach -> pusan
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
June 02 2006 20:38 GMT
#34
I mean, I never ever liked Pusan. I was impressed but honestly -_-;; He is still the same SG Pusan from way back deep inside. His spirit is very cool but it's very double edged and EVEN now, he pulls off "A Pusan moment". You all know what I mean...

Stork on the otherhand, is a far more versatile user. Kingdom-esque with a goood dose of Ra in him. Stork is awesome -_-;; Emo Hipster Toss FTW. But Yeah, Chojja did outplay his ass those games. Very few tosses really stand a chance against Chojja anyways. I still believe in Stork and that he will honestly only improve still.

Anytime I always thot of similar to Garim cuz Garim had a lot of all-in builds cept Garim was more dominant in his prime... I mean, Anytime DID 3-1 Oov during Oov's invincible stage. Garim did finally beat Boxer during his prime too. Then they both slumped miserably...
Anytime is unproven tho, but I still love the guy.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
June 03 2006 09:17 GMT
#35
just wanted to add that if stork was playing a zerg player lesser than chojja he would have at least won game 1, if not advanced all together
AUSSIESCUM
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WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
June 08 2006 14:22 GMT
#36
On May 29 2006 04:21 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2006 02:19 TeRaTosS wrote:
I think I know how ProGaming Started:

During the peak of the Korean War, 1952, Arctucus Mengsk, after a detoured voyage from a remote Conferderate outpost, descended upon South Korea to meet up with Syngman Rhee, the President of South Korea at the time, at a strategic summit named CWAL (Covert Weapons Assistance Legislation). It was there that Commander Mengsk offered to train South Korean soldiers in an information technology war that would aid in decrypting Communist communication messages. An excerise in improving overall hand-eye co-ordination along with multi-tasking were set up as preliminary training and selection for likely candidates. The training regime was codenamed: StarCraft, and later enhancements to the program produced a newer version: Broodwar (so named as the South Koreans believed they were fighthing members of their own family 'brood,' in the North Koreans). Successful candidates from the training program were often only known by their code names.
Away from family and friends, these professional soldiers worked in hidden glass walled facilities to decipher Communist messages and were able to to aid US Forces in the bombing raid of the Kusong Damn, North Korea, by detectingthe movement of enemy MiGs.
After the end of the war in 1953, discharged professional StarCraft graduates, now skilled in the field of information technology founded, now major companies such as Samsung and SK Telecom. Few continued with their profession, and set up training camps to select new IT soldiers in LAN CAFE's(Logistic Army Network Counter Artificial intelligence and Field Electronics) , in which members of the public were welcomed to enlist in learning the art of StarCraft. The once military exercise, quickly arose as a national sport, and right up until present day, remains a beacon of triumph for South Korea, arising from the darkness of war.

As for the three races in the exercise: Terran represented the free world of democracy. It demonstrated that with teamwork and control, matched with strength in varied units and personel, a war could be won. The Zerg were often used to depict the communist where the soldiers are often considered expendable following an overall ruler without question and one-minded devotion. The race Protoss was added as war is never simply good against evil. Protoss represent the grey area of war, the war of intelligence and covert operations where strength placed tactically and strategically in a few can sway a battle from one way to another.


dude what the hell is wrong with you..you keep posting these completely useless and irrelevant posts everywhere.

..

your story thing is totally retarded also -_-;


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