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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
February 09 2013 07:25 GMT
#21
Roro does not belong on the anti
☺
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
February 09 2013 07:40 GMT
#22
Cool stuff, I have herO[join], Woongjin Stars as team, and TY from the optimal team here... but I also have Shine on anti-team, and he suddenly became as good as he was supposed to be from the start of Proleague.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
February 09 2013 08:02 GMT
#23
I LOVE T8
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 08:03:31
February 09 2013 08:03 GMT
#24
AAAAAAAAAAAAA I LOVE PROLEAGUE
PROTIP roro will destroy your anti every time
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 09 2013 08:09 GMT
#25
Puma as a pinata had to make me chuckle. I'm always glad to see him win though since he's on my cellar ranked Fantasy team.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 09:08:22
February 09 2013 09:07 GMT
#26
I did a little fun thing on FPL for my anti i ignored everybodys name and just picked based entirely on points and randomly. DO NOT DO THIS ... i ended up with "innovation(bogus), Terminator(sang) and trap as my anti. Needless to say this has not gone well for me.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 09:35:10
February 09 2013 09:34 GMT
#27
no proleague this week-end because chinese new year I guess ?

edit : nevermind it's in the article.
Slayer_Chessi
Profile Joined January 2013
Czech Republic30 Posts
February 09 2013 11:24 GMT
#28
On February 09 2013 13:42 CursOr wrote:
Wow, the first all SC2 prolegue is hella chaotic... hmmm...
... the game will never have the distinct skill layers at the top like Broodwar did. The only people who would argue with that are the people who didn't really watch pro Broodwar. The top tier of SC2 is essentially a mess. A BO3 between any of the top 100 players in the world is essentially a crapshoot.


So true currently the proleague games are not VERY MUCH different from random husky games, when in broodwar, u could be sure that only top 10 players have a chance to beat flash in bo5 (the same for fantasy,bisu, jd...), now u cant be too suprised when no-name white boy (thorzain i.e.) kill top korean pro.
monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
February 09 2013 11:29 GMT
#29
they shoiuld kick zenio and puma from the team -.-
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
February 09 2013 11:58 GMT
#30
SAMSUNG MAKING THAT COMEBACK!
Hello
IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
February 09 2013 12:15 GMT
#31
JYP winning against stork, and Jaedong, Puma, Zenio and Hero lost all their matches. Would have never called that one out.
Life | Ryung | Mvp | MarineKing | Jaedong | Bisu | HerO
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 09 2013 13:42 GMT
#32
On February 09 2013 20:24 Slayer_Chessi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 13:42 CursOr wrote:
Wow, the first all SC2 prolegue is hella chaotic... hmmm...
... the game will never have the distinct skill layers at the top like Broodwar did. The only people who would argue with that are the people who didn't really watch pro Broodwar. The top tier of SC2 is essentially a mess. A BO3 between any of the top 100 players in the world is essentially a crapshoot.


So true currently the proleague games are not VERY MUCH different from random husky games, when in broodwar, u could be sure that only top 10 players have a chance to beat flash in bo5 (the same for fantasy,bisu, jd...), now u cant be too suprised when no-name white boy (thorzain i.e.) kill top korean pro.


In fairness, the Starcraft II scene looks a lot different than the Brood War scene did (I might also add that M18M, who was hardly ever a top 10 player, beat Flash in a televised game). Unlike in Brood War, the KeSPA players are still playing the catch-up game with the eSF pros who have been playing the game for much longer and have much more experience. On another note, there aren't many "no-name white boys" that can beat Korean pros in Best of 5's. It's incredibly rare.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 09 2013 14:55 GMT
#33
Still looks pretty close. Plenty of time to put together a consistent string of results.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Gruntt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States175 Posts
February 09 2013 15:05 GMT
#34
jaedong can't win!

why why

manti
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
February 09 2013 15:08 GMT
#35
Feburary 1st, 3rd spelled incorrectly - Thank you for the write up.
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
February 09 2013 16:25 GMT
#36
EG-TL piñata Puma

gave me a laugh, thx
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 16:47:51
February 09 2013 16:47 GMT
#37
on the optimal team thing, why does it say that reality has only 8 points? doesn't he have 13?

On February 09 2013 18:34 RouaF wrote:
no proleague this week-end because chinese new year I guess ?

edit : nevermind it's in the article.


lunar new year, yes
hmm... let's think about it
warmus
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom196 Posts
February 09 2013 17:07 GMT
#38
Gah im going through PL withdrawal, I miss the format and the players. I think its quite clear at this point that the difference in skill between eSF and KeSPA is practically negligible bar life. SK and bogus made the round of 8 two times in a row, and continue being mediocre in PL (I mean SK is currently the 5th best player on WJS by PL stats, and at one point he was losing so much I was worried they will bench him for a while). Top level SCII is inconsistent for now, and I think this much is clear just by combining PL and GSL viewing experiences. I understand that life is amazing and no one can maybe touch him at this point, but remember? SK took him down 4-0 last season, and people were calling DRG the guaranteed winner of his ro16group too, but to no avail. I think this inconsistency makes it a very exciting season, where we are still uncertain who is going to be the king, or at least a clear "the one to beat". At the moment its only Life in all of SCII, but lets see if he can maintain this dominance, as I think he will really have his work cut out for him in the months to come.
Slayer_Chessi
Profile Joined January 2013
Czech Republic30 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 18:00:38
February 09 2013 17:59 GMT
#39
+ Show Spoiler +
In fairness, the Starcraft II scene looks a lot different than the Brood War scene did (I might also add that M18M, who was hardly ever a top 10 player, beat Flash in a televised game). Unlike in Brood War, the KeSPA players are still playing the catch-up game with the eSF pros who have been playing the game for much longer and have much more experience. On another note, there aren't many "no-name white boys" that can beat Korean pros in Best of 5's. It's incredibly rare.


Well, I was told that current foreign scene is already behind PL in terms of skill . And PL looks, as was said, extremly inconsistent. But I watch korean PL at most. Btw did u guys see Stephano in PL? I was laughing so hard when he took bases, build 20+ spines and just sit whole game till he had 200/200 broodlords. That was so boring and funny
MysterySC
Profile Joined October 2012
Andorra109 Posts
February 09 2013 18:14 GMT
#40
I really dont like pro league, in a BO1 literally anyone can win... It hardly showcases skill compared to GSL or any other at least BO3 matches
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