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trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
February 01 2013 11:38 GMT
#201
anyone else having trouble with the stream during stephanos game? the sound is fine but the video feed is like super laggy :|
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zajeBEASTY
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland40 Posts
February 01 2013 11:56 GMT
#202
Stephano!! great wins over Hack! Now kick ass of Innovation gogo!
http://www.duchprawdy.com/poemat.htm / http://www.valtorta.org/the_poem__freeonlinereadingoffer.asp - Poemat Boga-Człowieka / Poem of the Man-God
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
February 01 2013 12:05 GMT
#203
When will MC play? :/
Age of Mythology forever!
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
February 01 2013 12:28 GMT
#204
"I don't think I've ever seen someone GG with a 180 supply!"

Stephano kickin ASS! Super game :D
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zajeBEASTY
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland40 Posts
February 01 2013 12:29 GMT
#205
On February 01 2013 19:18 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 19:07 Goladkin wrote:
On February 01 2013 19:00 Midday wrote:
Stephano making mistakes some mid masters wouldn't make...
List his mistakes pls because I watched those 2 games and it was: first game - map win for Innovation, and second - just one mistake from Stephano - he didnt scout mass blue flame hellions.

MAP win for innovation?
Well you gotta be kidding me, since when are huge maps better for terrans? Or are u trolling?
Huge Maps, easy to expand, lots of creep = Terran is favored?? WHUT?
Stephano refused to harass, scout for drops (an obvious thing on this map) and had bad engagements.
This map isn't IMBA at all, it just needs some adaption. If Zerg keep making slow unit compositions (BL that is), and don't defend to drops or are not prepared (how about making not only 1 or 2 unit grous?) then you lose.

Game 2: he saw tons of hellions in the making, he DID scout that. He already made roach warren, but FORGOT to make roaches. If he just made roaches he wins, cause 10 roaches win 15 bluflame hellions and Innovation had NOTHING else (ok 4 marines)
This map highly favour drop play - final game! go for mutas Stephano instead of infestors and kill all Innovetion drops!!!
http://www.duchprawdy.com/poemat.htm / http://www.valtorta.org/the_poem__freeonlinereadingoffer.asp - Poemat Boga-Człowieka / Poem of the Man-God
zajeBEASTY
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland40 Posts
February 01 2013 12:39 GMT
#206
Stupid cheeser - I hope he will be elminated in ro16, but Stephano should know he will go for cheese - it was just Innovation's only chance to win....eh
http://www.duchprawdy.com/poemat.htm / http://www.valtorta.org/the_poem__freeonlinereadingoffer.asp - Poemat Boga-Człowieka / Poem of the Man-God
Flinch
Profile Joined January 2013
37 Posts
February 01 2013 12:39 GMT
#207
On February 01 2013 11:23 The_Darkness wrote:
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On February 01 2013 11:20 Flinch wrote:
Oh man, I can't wait. Not for the games, but for the fallout afterwards. People are gonna go insane when Stephanie gets knocked out. How to set yourself up for disappointment: overrate Stephano, think that the GSL WC was serious and that Stephano's Roach/Hydra TvZ is actually gonna work against someone like Innovation.


I wholeheartedly agree. The fact his build has worked against MKP (and MVP, Ganzi and MMA, among others) is indicative of nothing.


On February 01 2013 12:30 pwnz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 11:20 Flinch wrote:
Oh man, I can't wait. Not for the games, but for the fallout afterwards. People are gonna go insane when Stephanie gets knocked out. How to set yourself up for disappointment: overrate Stephano, think that the GSL WC was serious and that Stephano's Roach/Hydra TvZ is actually gonna work against someone like Innovation.



I am definitely bookmarking this post. I'll be sure to bring this back when Stephano advances.


Aww, how's it feel to be retarded?
Mudkipnick
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Korea (South)241 Posts
February 01 2013 12:42 GMT
#208
;_; </3 Stephano lost.
Follow your dreams
NumberFive
Profile Joined November 2012
Belgium36 Posts
February 01 2013 12:43 GMT
#209
Dno Flinch, you tell us.
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
February 01 2013 12:44 GMT
#210
Ah too bad! But it was super fun rooting for him

No fall-out here
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Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 12:45:57
February 01 2013 12:45 GMT
#211
On February 01 2013 21:39 Flinch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 11:23 The_Darkness wrote:
On February 01 2013 11:20 Flinch wrote:
Oh man, I can't wait. Not for the games, but for the fallout afterwards. People are gonna go insane when Stephanie gets knocked out. How to set yourself up for disappointment: overrate Stephano, think that the GSL WC was serious and that Stephano's Roach/Hydra TvZ is actually gonna work against someone like Innovation.


I wholeheartedly agree. The fact his build has worked against MKP (and MVP, Ganzi and MMA, among others) is indicative of nothing.


Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 12:30 pwnz0r wrote:
On February 01 2013 11:20 Flinch wrote:
Oh man, I can't wait. Not for the games, but for the fallout afterwards. People are gonna go insane when Stephanie gets knocked out. How to set yourself up for disappointment: overrate Stephano, think that the GSL WC was serious and that Stephano's Roach/Hydra TvZ is actually gonna work against someone like Innovation.



I am definitely bookmarking this post. I'll be sure to bring this back when Stephano advances.


Aww, how's it feel to be retarded?


Don't you think that you're at little harsh? He went 3-4 in his group and Innovation 4-3. Stephano had the best score for any 3rd place in this round alongside Creator.
Cartman_
Profile Joined July 2012
119 Posts
February 01 2013 12:50 GMT
#212
On February 01 2013 21:39 Goladkin wrote:
Stupid cheeser - I hope he will be elminated in ro16, but Stephano should know he will go for cheese - it was just Innovation's only chance to win....eh


Ahah ! Stephano made 5 time the same build. Did you really expected that BoguS would let him do what he wants ? It's Stephano's fault if he looses. Look one more time the last game. Whirlwind is a sh*tty map for Terran, He saw 4 Baracks, he can expect a timing push. He didn't scoot when the push was coming (his overlord / Xel'naga didn't see nothing) ... With a little Zergling waiting outside the base of BoguS, Stephano would have seen those units coming and I'm pretty sure he would have win this.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 01 2013 12:50 GMT
#213
On February 01 2013 21:39 Goladkin wrote:
Stupid cheeser - I hope he will be elminated in ro16, but Stephano should know he will go for cheese - it was just Innovation's only chance to win....eh


Only chance to win. Funny how he beat stephano 2 games straight with normal play
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 12:53:20
February 01 2013 12:52 GMT
#214
On February 01 2013 21:50 KAB00000000M wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:39 Goladkin wrote:
Stupid cheeser - I hope he will be elminated in ro16, but Stephano should know he will go for cheese - it was just Innovation's only chance to win....eh


Only chance to win. Funny how he beat stephano 2 games straight with normal play


well 3 factory mass blue flame allin isn't what i'd call normal play

neither is double 11 proxy rax nor 6 rax marine/marauder/scv allin


but i also dont think allin is his only chance to win..i think his macro play is stronger overall. he likes to do risky builds a lot though
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Flinch
Profile Joined January 2013
37 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 12:53:29
February 01 2013 12:52 GMT
#215
On February 01 2013 21:45 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:39 Flinch wrote:
On February 01 2013 11:23 The_Darkness wrote:
On February 01 2013 11:20 Flinch wrote:
Oh man, I can't wait. Not for the games, but for the fallout afterwards. People are gonna go insane when Stephanie gets knocked out. How to set yourself up for disappointment: overrate Stephano, think that the GSL WC was serious and that Stephano's Roach/Hydra TvZ is actually gonna work against someone like Innovation.


I wholeheartedly agree. The fact his build has worked against MKP (and MVP, Ganzi and MMA, among others) is indicative of nothing.


On February 01 2013 12:30 pwnz0r wrote:
On February 01 2013 11:20 Flinch wrote:
Oh man, I can't wait. Not for the games, but for the fallout afterwards. People are gonna go insane when Stephanie gets knocked out. How to set yourself up for disappointment: overrate Stephano, think that the GSL WC was serious and that Stephano's Roach/Hydra TvZ is actually gonna work against someone like Innovation.



I am definitely bookmarking this post. I'll be sure to bring this back when Stephano advances.


Aww, how's it feel to be retarded?


Don't you think that you're at little harsh? He went 3-4 in his group and Innovation 4-3. Stephano had the best score for any 3rd place in this round alongside Creator.


Nope. He went 1-4 against Innovation. He 2-0'd probably the worst player in Code S who is pure gimmick and can't play a macro game to save his life.

Can't just look at total scores man, gotta look at who they faced.

He's not close to Code S ready. Doesn't play the right way at all. If he ever wants to do well in Code S, he needs to rebuild himself, which I doubt he'll take the time to do.
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
February 01 2013 12:59 GMT
#216
On February 01 2013 21:45 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:39 Flinch wrote:
On February 01 2013 11:23 The_Darkness wrote:
On February 01 2013 11:20 Flinch wrote:
Oh man, I can't wait. Not for the games, but for the fallout afterwards. People are gonna go insane when Stephanie gets knocked out. How to set yourself up for disappointment: overrate Stephano, think that the GSL WC was serious and that Stephano's Roach/Hydra TvZ is actually gonna work against someone like Innovation.


I wholeheartedly agree. The fact his build has worked against MKP (and MVP, Ganzi and MMA, among others) is indicative of nothing.


On February 01 2013 12:30 pwnz0r wrote:
On February 01 2013 11:20 Flinch wrote:
Oh man, I can't wait. Not for the games, but for the fallout afterwards. People are gonna go insane when Stephanie gets knocked out. How to set yourself up for disappointment: overrate Stephano, think that the GSL WC was serious and that Stephano's Roach/Hydra TvZ is actually gonna work against someone like Innovation.



I am definitely bookmarking this post. I'll be sure to bring this back when Stephano advances.


Aww, how's it feel to be retarded?


Don't you think that you're at little harsh? He went 3-4 in his group and Innovation 4-3. Stephano had the best score for any 3rd place in this round alongside Creator.

Way to twist the numbers around.

He went 1-4 against Bogus. That's what matters.

Bogus went 0-2 against DRG who's the best ZvT sans Life (who's on another level) while Stephano 2-0 Hack who's arguably the worst non-Huk Code S player.

Also I still can't believe how anyone could possibly think that Innovation would go last place in this group. Like, seriously.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
February 01 2013 13:09 GMT
#217
rofl, did people actually vote for Stephano in a group with Bogus and DRG?? lol
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 13:22:48
February 01 2013 13:20 GMT
#218
On February 01 2013 21:29 Goladkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 19:18 Rollora wrote:
On February 01 2013 19:07 Goladkin wrote:
On February 01 2013 19:00 Midday wrote:
Stephano making mistakes some mid masters wouldn't make...
List his mistakes pls because I watched those 2 games and it was: first game - map win for Innovation, and second - just one mistake from Stephano - he didnt scout mass blue flame hellions.

MAP win for innovation?
Well you gotta be kidding me, since when are huge maps better for terrans? Or are u trolling?
Huge Maps, easy to expand, lots of creep = Terran is favored?? WHUT?
Stephano refused to harass, scout for drops (an obvious thing on this map) and had bad engagements.
This map isn't IMBA at all, it just needs some adaption. If Zerg keep making slow unit compositions (BL that is), and don't defend to drops or are not prepared (how about making not only 1 or 2 unit grous?) then you lose.

Game 2: he saw tons of hellions in the making, he DID scout that. He already made roach warren, but FORGOT to make roaches. If he just made roaches he wins, cause 10 roaches win 15 bluflame hellions and Innovation had NOTHING else (ok 4 marines)
This map highly favour drop play - final game! go for mutas Stephano instead of infestors and kill all Innovetion drops!!!

so?
Every race can drop, how is it then the MAPs fault that Innovation won?
Also: yeah, what about mutalisks preventing drops and using them for harassement?
He got outplayed. Sad as it is, I am disappointed but not surprised
On February 01 2013 21:50 Cartman_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:39 Goladkin wrote:
Stupid cheeser - I hope he will be elminated in ro16, but Stephano should know he will go for cheese - it was just Innovation's only chance to win....eh


Ahah ! Stephano made 5 time the same build. Did you really expected that BoguS would let him do what he wants ? It's Stephano's fault if he looses. Look one more time the last game. Whirlwind is a sh*tty map for Terran, He saw 4 Baracks, he can expect a timing push. He didn't scoot when the push was coming (his overlord / Xel'naga didn't see nothing) ... With a little Zergling waiting outside the base of BoguS, Stephano would have seen those units coming and I'm pretty sure he would have win this.

Lol which games have u seen?
1st game ling pressure later roach
2nd game no ling pressure build, made roach warren as a reaction to mass hellions
3rd game different build
etc.
U just think he made same BUILD over and over again, cause he had the same types of units in the end?
So is it then, that this is the ONLY build Zerg can play...
NMxSardines
Profile Joined February 2012
77 Posts
February 01 2013 13:20 GMT
#219
On February 01 2013 21:39 Goladkin wrote:
Stupid cheeser - I hope he will be elminated in ro16, but Stephano should know he will go for cheese - it was just Innovation's only chance to win....eh


Sadly, that wasn't cheese. It was him punishing Stephano for having some of the greediest play of all the Zerg players. Innovation also beat Stephano 2 - 0 by playing macro in the first set.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 13:25:15
February 01 2013 13:24 GMT
#220
On February 01 2013 22:20 NMxSardines wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:39 Goladkin wrote:
Stupid cheeser - I hope he will be elminated in ro16, but Stephano should know he will go for cheese - it was just Innovation's only chance to win....eh


Sadly, that wasn't cheese. It was him punishing Stephano for having some of the greediest play of all the Zerg players. Innovation also beat Stephano 2 - 0 by playing macro in the first set.

the 2nd game of the first set was very well cheese: it was mass blueflame hellions with no follow up (no starport, upgrades mech or whatever), 2 base.
Stephano made one mistake: not making roaches when warren was ready. Why he didn't do it, we will never know. But 10 roaches would have killed ALL hellions and killed Innovation who had NOTHING at home (ok 4 marines). This was an 2 base all in build, counting on the fact that his opponent does a special build (if he didn't, the build of Bogus doesn't work and he is out - cheese.)
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