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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27157 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-04 15:57:45
May 03 2006 21:47 GMT
#1
Somewhere out there is a man named Carnac. If anybody has seen him, could you please notify his parents and the TL.net staff? He has been MIA for a couple weeks now.

Anyways, we here at TL love the MSL, and the lack of coverage has really been out of our control. Tonight though, hopefully we can play some catchup.

For a great, up to date summary, check out this thread by jkillashark. It covers the format, maps, and standings of the MSL so far. Click Me.

Today I headed to the COEX mall in downtown Seoul for another day of BW watching. The OGN games and the MBC games are both filmed in the same mall, but in different studios. With the help of some English speaking manner Koreans I found my way to the studio and was treated to a couple rounds of team play for an event I was not familiar with. After a trip to the PC bang to beat up on rel a bit, I was back in time for tonights games.

Game 1: Boxer vs Chojja on 815

Easily the most popular professional gamer in the world today, the sounds of cheering fans preceded the Emperor into the playing area. Followed by ChoJJa, Boxer did me a great favour by choosing the computer that I was standing behind which allowed me to watch his FP view.

He was very particular about his set up, having the techies adjust the hight of his moniter several times. His warm up game featured him trouncing a Z (LT 12/3). When the count down began, it was showtime.

Boxer opened at 7, and promptly went to work on a depot at his choke. His apm was monstrous from the start, cementing my opinion that spam may be useless at the beginning, but morphs into useful clicks later in the game.

Upon completing the depot, Boxer put down a CC and then a Barracks in quick sucession. He had yet to scout, and when he did so he went over to 5, across to 11, and then over to 1 where he ran into a wall of sunkens.

His build was working perfectly though. After taking his natural in record speed, (and with only 2 rines made), he set to work on a massive MM project which eventually built into 6 barracks. His initial defense was against a few mutalisks, but for the most part he was free to do as he pleased. Bad idea.

Skipping ahead, his two ports soon finished. With only one gas, two ports seemed to be a questionable idea. Then two dropships popped out, quickly followed by two more. With 4 dships in the air, boxer turned on his scanners and scouted the zerg bases at 12, 3, and 11. His scans all game were perfectly timed, catching the Zerg as he started his early hive, and again when he began his greater spire. There were no mysteries for Boxer.

With the middle free of lurkers, Boxer moved his huge MM army out towards the zerg base. Using his new dropships, he ferried his forces up and around the massive zerg sunken line. ChoJJa was no where to be seen, and then the blitz came.

Marines ripped up the Zerg natural totally unopposed, while two dropships took out both 12 and 3 at the same time. In the blink of an eye, a three pronged attack had gutted ChoJJa. His guardians were at 12 and failed to save the hatch, so they were essentially useless units.

ChoJJa eventually tried to stop Boxer from taking 5, but Boxer had the answer with wraiths, and in under 15 minutes he was walking off-stage being chased by a throng of girls.

ChoJJa < Boxer

It was surgical. He never waivered for a minute, and he cut ChoJJa in two. He really is the most popular gamer in Korea, as he was hounded by fans and cheered for a long time. After his game the crowd thinned significantly.

Game 2: IPX vs Reach on Arcadia

Probably second only to Boxer, is Reach. The crowd was already buzzing after a popular outcome in game 1, and when reach hit the stage it once again became animated. For this game I switched sides and IPX sat down in front of me. Here is what I saw:

Arcadia is 2-0 for PvZ, with 2 expansions behind a choke it was made for a fast forge. IPX didn't see it until his first lings were out, but he already had a hatchery at each of his expansions as well. For those people who have never played on LAN, the muta control that can be exhibited is surreal. When IPX got his mutalisks out, 9 of them flew as one. A tight bunch of death. IPX managed to overpower the few cannons and lone sair that Reach had for defense, and one of Reach's expansions fell. The second was saved though, and IPX was unable to press his advantage.

Reach was using his large resource pool to build up a reaver/sair army, while IPX promptly took the rest of the map. After every battle, win or lose, another hatchery went down on the map somewhere. If ever one died, it was simply replaced somewhere else. 300 minerals became very cheap to a player who was soon mining from 8 places.

IPX showed smoe nice moves by burrowing drones that were in danger, and creating hydra pit traps, groups of burrowed hydras that popped up as reaver/sair passed over to pick off a loaded shuttle. He always had tabs on where Reach was with his army.

The main focal point of the match became the battle over 3 oclock, where Reach was trying to maintain his resource flow. IPX mixed up his attacks, using hydra drops, queens, defilers, and assorted air units. With Reach on the defensive, zerg expansions spread to every corner of the map, and he began sandbox starcraft. At the end, it was an Ultra/Lurker/Defiler/Guard/Dev army that won it.

IPX > Reach

Reach's build was good, but he was put on the defensive too much after his initial Reaver/Sair army could not do enough damage. IPX showed some great use of spells, and definately showed that burrow is worthwhile for many situations. It was interesting that after the game, while waiting for his cue to leave, IPX booted up the Boxer/ChoJJa rep to watch.

Game 3: rA vs Stork on The Eye

I got lucky again this game, and after a brief hesitation rA sat down in front of me. Just as the game began, Rekrul showed up and we made a friendly wager. He backed the flower toss, while I put my 10,000 on the new blood of Stork.

Was I ever sorry I had. rA opened with goons and an observer, the perfect counter to the dt he saw with his first obs/crowd hack. From that point on, he took out his scalpel and started carving.

His first reavers took out two of the HT at Storks choke, a big blow for the gas poor Samsung player. While Stork tried to expand, rA ferried his forces into his opponents main. His reavers and goons caused massive havoc as he took his natural and boosted up to 6 gateways.

Stork repeatedly tried to attack, but his efforts were always undercut by rA. One time it was dt's assasinating HT's in the middle of the map, the next it was another reaver drop that eliminated a cannon and 30 probes, allowing two dt to finish off Stork's main nexus. Needless to say, it was soon gg.

rA > Stork

rA is probably the smartest player around. His building placement is beautiful, his timing is perfect, and his sense of where and when to attack is without equal. The very little things such as spreading his reavers a storm and a half apart and shuttle micro bought him this game, as it has in so many others. I can't say enough good things about him.

Unfortunately, I could not stay for game 4, but Midas beat Yooi as most of you liquibeters expected.

I had a good time watching the games. It was definately an all star cast today. I will write up a seperate post after this week with more details about the live environment.

Cheers,
Manifesto7.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 03 2006 22:01 GMT
#2
Thanks Mani. =)
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
May 03 2006 22:12 GMT
#3
Did you come with your wife?
Did you come to korea for fun or for like a specific reason like business?
Lucky you just made me want to watch live games now.

Awesome reports and it was fast as hell. For the yooi vs. midas you can just dl it and finish the report. I love your writing and when you said 10,000 bet with Rekrul it has to be in wons haha.
Seems like you had an awesome time and what better to spend oyur time in korea by watching boxer.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-03 22:35:40
May 03 2006 22:33 GMT
#4
Good report!! really

btw, are these games on the tracker yet? and in that case what are they called cause I can't see them.
Enter a Uh
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 03 2006 22:53 GMT
#5
I love the first person view of the reports! A hint of what is going on in their heads during the games.
Thanks!
Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
May 03 2006 22:54 GMT
#6
I think it was more like rel beat up on you ^_^
Legalize drugs and murder.
Painbringer
Profile Joined March 2003
Norway446 Posts
May 03 2006 23:07 GMT
#7
this game shows just how unpredictable boxer is, you never have any idea what he is going to do, except that he`ll likely kill you in under 20min
ExeR[CO]
Profile Joined May 2006
Russian Federation34 Posts
May 03 2006 23:17 GMT
#8
4/4-my day :D
The more we help each other, the better we become.
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-04 00:49:41
May 04 2006 00:48 GMT
#9
ahhhh thanks for the reports manifesto =D


wow... i can't believe i got 3/4 and actually DROPPED 10 places

that many people got 4/4???? >_<

nice results anyhow
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
XoR~
Profile Joined April 2006
Switzerland453 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-04 01:34:04
May 04 2006 01:31 GMT
#10
Intresting reports Mani, with background of what happens around the games.

Btw, will we see you tomorrow at the OSL?
Me Gosu ^-^ teamliquid.net
T-BoT[pL]
Profile Joined May 2005
Poland241 Posts
May 04 2006 01:32 GMT
#11
omfg, good report, Manifesto7 u have best english i ever saw
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
May 04 2006 04:34 GMT
#12
vods?
Enter a Uh
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
May 04 2006 06:58 GMT
#13
Hahah...yeah what happened to Carnac.

Very nice job filling in for him with this report.
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
May 04 2006 07:40 GMT
#14
IPX is evil -_- Did he really watch the rep? Wow that gives me the creeps.
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
May 04 2006 07:51 GMT
#15
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Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
May 04 2006 08:09 GMT
#16
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MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
May 04 2006 08:23 GMT
#17
Lol!
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
May 04 2006 08:41 GMT
#18
thanks for the report
HappyManRun
Profile Joined November 2005
1111 Posts
May 04 2006 08:58 GMT
#19
Bleh... Boxer vs Chojja was brutal T___T
I happy, thus I run.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
May 04 2006 09:03 GMT
#20
On May 04 2006 16:51 OctoPuSs wrote:
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WHEReS THE SIGN
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
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