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[SPL] All-Kill Round Preview - Part 2

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[SPL] All-Kill Round Preview - Part 2

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January 4th, 2013 20:44 GMT

SKPlanet PRoleague

Table of Contents



Team Check Ups:
Part Two

EG-TL, SKT, Woongjin, KT


Last Second Fantasy Tips
All-Kill Style


SK Planet Proleague table and results at Liquipedia

Team Check Ups - Part 2



Round 1 End Standings
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Read Part 1 Here

And here we continue where we left off, with part two of our team check ups ahead of the all-kill round.

Evil Geniuses- Team Liquid (3 – 4, +1 map score)

Round 1 Lookback
PlayerRaceTotal Win - LossAce Win - LossIn line-up
TaeJa6 - 21 - 26/7
JYP5 - 30 - 17/7
Jaedong4 - 3—7/7
HerO3 - 3—6/7
Zenio2 - 2—4/7
ThorZaIN1 - 3—4/7
HuK0 - 1—2/7
PuMa0 - 3—6/7
IdrA——0/7
Stephano——0/7
Sea*——0/7
= 6+ line-up appearances.
= 1+ line-up appearance.
= 0 line-up appearances.
*Retired


Though EG-TL had a rocky start in week 1 with a weakened lineup against the best team in the league (KT), they quickly bounced back, finishing in 4th place and positioning themselves as a strong contender for a playoff position.

One of the big questions for EG-TL this season was who their ace was going to be. With such a stacked lineup, it would be difficult to decide on just who to send in that position (First world top foreign team problems). You had the Teamliquid tag-team of Hero and Taeja. There was Stephano, the undisputed best foreigner who was not available to play last round. And then you had legendary BW player and previous Team 8 ace, Jaedong. We now know that the main EG-TL ace has been all but solidified: Taeja. With a 6-2 record, Taeja has one of the best in the league, and his ambitions to take the most wins award this season should take him far.

The other surprise ace for EG-TL is JYP. Though you wouldn't necessary expect him to be chosen as an ace in such a star-studded lineup, JYP held the second best record in EG-TL last season and was even picked as ace once. The previous round of Proleague suited him as the Proleague maps all tended to favor a certain race and lineups were easily predictable. For JYP, this meant that he was easily able dodge Terran players, completely dodging his infamously weakest match-up.

But besides Taeja and JYP, the rest of the team has not met expectations. Jaedong is not nearly as strong on EG-TL as he was on Team 8 (obligatory EG curse joke here), Puma seems to have fallen into a super-slump, HerO hasn't been able to show his full potential, and the foreigners combined only have managed to score only a single win (Go Thorzain!). All in all, EG-TL is definitely a high tier team, but they're not the clear favorites this season as everyone had predicted them to be. Yet...

Round 2 Outlook
New registrations: (T)DeMusliM, (Z)Revival, (Z)Stephano

With the reinforcements of Revival and Stephano, and to a lesser extent Demuslim, EG-TL's lineup feels complete. Stephano, along with Taeja, is know for his ability to all-kill entire teams by himself. Revival, EG's newest recruit, showed an amazing result two days ago, taking down FXO's three best players by himself. As a reward, he gets to face Flash in their opening match of winners league, and don't be too surprised if Revival takes the win there.

The switch to winners league was one EG-TL had probably hoped for last round when they were short on depth. Winners league is generally good for EG-TL, a team with more players who can potentially all-kill than any other team. However, at the same time, this means that EG-TL can field only four players per match, limiting the benefits of finally having their full roster in Korea. While EG-TL got exposed for their lack of depth in round one, they can now field a truly scary 6-man roster consisting of Taeja/Hero/Stephano/Jaedong/JYP/Revival, if it were still the PL format. Still, it's not like having the most top heavy roster in the Winners League is a bad consolation prize. With reinforcements and a switch in format, look for EG-TL to vastly outperform their round 1 results.

The huge X-factor here is that Stephano's arrival date doesn't seem set at all, and he could miss a few weeks of Proleague depending on how much buffer time he wants before playing Code S (the dates for which are not set either). Fantasy players, pick him at your caution (or gamble for him on your Anti-Team!).

-monk.


SK Telecom T1 (5 – 2, +5 map score)

Round 1 Lookback
PlayerRaceTotal Win - LossAce Win - LossIn line-up
Rain6 - 12 - 07/7
Fantasy6 - 21 - 07/7
soO4 - 30 - 17/7
Best2 - 3—5/7
s22 - 1—3/7
Bisu1 - 2—3/7
Paralyze1 - 1—2/7
Sacsri1 - 3—4/7
YeongJae (JyJ)1 - 3—4/7
HyuK——0/7
= 6+ line-up appearances.
= 1+ line-up appearance.
= 0 line-up appearances.


Fun fact: In the last season of Hybrid Proleague, Rain was played as the ace player about 92% of the time(11/12 times). But this season, the SKT1 ace position has become a lot more diverse with Fantasy and soO taking turns as well. And these aces are what make SKT1 shine; Rain and Fantasy are two of the best players in the league, and soO is a top Zerg as well. Unfortunately though, past these three players, there's room for improvement on the SKT1 lineup and as such, SKT1 has grown to be a very top heavy team consisting of just a three man core.

SKT1's strategy last round seemed to have been to consistently use this core and cycle around the rest of their roster. And while every player on the roster has scored at least one win, there have not been any real standouts or anyone looking like a candidate to be a solid fourth man. SKT1's supporting lineup continues to do just as well in SC2 as they did in BW: mediocre. As for the SKT1 BW aces, though Fantasy has grown into a formidable SC2 player and lived up to his BW hype, the same can't be said for Best and the legendary Bisu. While Best shows some promise, the same cannot be said for Bisu to the dismay of fangirls round the world. All we really learned from Bisu's paltry three games this round is that he doesn't know to check for in-base pylons in PvP and that he can immortal all-in (though not particularly well).

Round 2 Outlook
New registration: (T)sSak

Unlike many of the other new entries, sSak was a BW player who actually got a decent amount of playtime on SKT1. Expect him to be better than the average new recruit, but not to stand out too much among SKT1's supporting players.

The real big change for SKT1 this round is the change to a 4 man winners league format. Perhaps more than any other team, SKT1 benefits the most. First is the fact that they have both Rain and Fantasy, two players that have more all-kill potential than perhaps almost anyone else in the league. Rain especially will benefit as he is widely regarded as the best Kespa player and has amazing records over other aces in the league such as Hero and Taeja.

Secondly, with only four slots per match per team, SKT1 is no longer forced to use field their lesser players, which means fewer free points given to their opponents. In contrast to standard proleague where SKT1 switched around lineups a lot, look for SKT1 to have a much more fixed lineup this round than other teams in the league. Rain, Fantasy, and soO should be close to sure picks each match and the rest of the lineup will take turns rotating in.

- monk.


Woongjin Stars (5 – 2, +9 map score)

Round 1 Lookback
PlayerRaceTotal Win - LossAce Win - LossIn line-up
sOs (sHy)6 - 21 - 07/7
Soulkey6 - 21 - 17/7
hOn_Sin (Bravo)4 - 2—7/7
Zero4 - 3—7/7
free2 - 1—4/7
Light2 - 0—3/7
NaGi——1/7
fOKINS0 - 1—1/7
Flying0 - 4—5/7
Hanbin——0/7
Rudy——0/7
Swift——0/7
= 6+ line-up appearances.
= 1+ line-up appearance.
= 0 line-up appearances.


Woongjin Stars' second place finish last round was a probably a surprise for most people, but not if you paid close attention to their lineup. The Stars have a very similar team composition to CJ; they both have a Zerg and Protoss ace(sOs and Soulkey vs hero[jOin] and Effort) along with an above average supporting lineup. However, the big difference between the two teams (second place vs fifth place) came from the fact that everyone on Woongjin just seemed to do slightly better than their counterparts over at CJ. Woongjin's aces all just played slightly better and so did their supporting cast.

The big surprise for Woongjin came in the form of hon_sin(Bravo). At the beginning of the season, some wondered why Bravo was being played instead of Light, a talented BW player who did quite well in Hybrid Proleague. The answer to that question seemed to have less to do with the fact that Light was slumping and more to do with the fact that Bravo is actually quite good. Other than Bravo though, sOs and Soulkey played their ace positions beautifully and Zero, free, and Light turned out to be solid supporting players.

The only exception to Woongjin's stellar performances came from Flying, one of the more experienced SC2 players on their roster. Though he had previously competed on big stages including both the GSL and OSL, Flying just seemed completely nervous and out of place in the booth. His 0-4 record probably belies his true skill though, so look for him to reawaken in a future round.

Round 2 Outlook

Of all the teams, the format switch to winners league has probably hurt Stars the most. Being a well-rounded team with a lot of depth means they want more available playing slots in order to pick off their opponents' weaker players. When you have seven good players fighting for four team slots, you're going to have a lot of talent wasted. That being said, don't look to count out Woongjin Stars out yet. Their top four slots, comprised of sOs/Soulkey/Bravo/Zero, is stronger than what most other teams can muster.

Curiously, Woongjin's first match(the opening match of round 2) is against CJ, their "lesser" counterpart. And even more interesting is the fact that the opening game will be between Woongjin's Protoss ace, sOs, and CJ's Protoss ace, herO[jOin]. In this mirror within a mirror, we'll be able to see which team can take the momentum early on in this round. Will Woongjin continue to be CJ+ or will the roles be reversed this time around?

-monk.


KT Rolster (6 – 1, +13 map score)

Round 1 Lookback
PlayerRaceTotal Win - LossAce Win - LossIn line-up
Flash5 - 31 - 07/7
Stats5 - 0—6/7
Action5 - 1—7/7
Wooki4 - 1—7/7
Crazy-Hydra3 - 1—6/7
Hitman1 - 1—2/7
Motive1 - 1—2/7
HoeJJa0 - 1—1/7
Mind0 - 2—3/7
Barracks——1/7
Acasia——0/7
Miso——0/7
Penguin——0/7
Myungsik——0/7
= 6+ line-up appearances.
= 1+ line-up appearance.
= 0 line-up appearances.


KT Rolster's second-last place finish in the hybrid Proleague looks to be far in the past as the perennial title contenders returned to form with a strong, first place finish in round one.

There's something almost unreal about how closely their StarCraft II squad is starting to resemble their Brood War squads of the late 2000's. Even those unfamiliar with Brood War have heard of the legend of Flash, but the story of his supporting cast bears telling as well. Since his debut year, there has always been grumbling about how Flash takes on a disproportionate burden for KT Rolster, and how they needed to support him better. While KT Rolster never succeeded at landing the superstar partner their fans clamored for, they did manage to assemble a rotating crew of unassuming but productive players who backed Flash on their two championship runs (whether or not they could have gotten an even better bench for their money – that's always going to be up for debate).

One round into the first all-SC2 Proleague, things are progressing in the same way. Flash draws all the attention, but Stats – his right hand man since 2010 – is performing just as well while receiving not even a quarter of the fanfare. A three man committee of Action, Wooki (aka P7GAB), and Crazy-Hydra is performing spectacularly as well, despite their total lack of SC2 accomplishments elsewhere. Even their sixth men have been surprisingly decent, with Hitman (who collected an impressive bounty on Baby) and Motive going 1 – 1.

I don't mean to mislead and say the KT bench was always this good in Brood War – there have been rounds where Flash struggled alone and "child labor" jokes were told left and right. But the overall make-up of the team is distinctly similar to Flash's Brood War KT Rolster: An ace with a dominating presence leading a group of spotlight-shy, but undeniably competent followers. Though KT was never as interesting a team as the star-studded SKT or whatever band of cheeky rogues Jaedong happened to be dragging along at the time, they definitely carried themselves with the quiet confidence of their ace.

The level of performance from round 1 isn't sustainable, or else we'd see KT win the Proleague by some ridiculous, unheard of margin. But it's clear that KT Rolster is for real in the SC2 Proleague, and they're going to be a force to be reckoned with.

Round 2 Outlook

As with many of the top performers in Round One, KT Rolster takes a hit in the Winners League from being unable to exploit their depth. When you're just talking top four players, KT Rolster might not even be the fourth best team on paper, depending on who you ask. STX, Woongjin, EG-TL, SKT all have comparable level rosters at worst, and it would take only a few narrow losses to see KT Rolster tumble down the rankings (just ask CJ Entus!).

So, as it is with every single team in the Winners League, there will be a lot of weight on KT Rolster's ace to become a super-ace and carries the load for his team. Is Flash up to it?

Well, he's certainly being rated more realistically after a lot of the hot air MLG pumped into him at Dallas has been let out, which is to say most people realize he's very good player who still has some clear weaknesses. TvT is an especially glaring hole in his game with a sub 50% win rate, and teams will have snipers lined-up on every map to take him down. His TvP is excellent and should serve him well against any opponent, but his TvZ hasn't received thorough testing at the hands of top-tier opposition (he did lose to best-in-world ST_Life, but come on, that's Life). We'll be excited to see how he matches up against players like Soulkey, soO or Stephano, but we can't give him a vote of confidence that he's the all-killing ace from the BW days.


-Waxangel



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Last Second Fantasy Tips

by monk.



Fantasy Proleague Round 2 is starting up and you can read about it and sign up here. But with just a few hours to go before registration is due and the matches start, here are a few but simple but helpful tips for Round 2 Winners League FPL.

Figure out who is likely to play the most

Week One Starters

Woongjin vs. CJ (Jan 5)
(P)sOs/Shy < Ohana > (P)herO[jOin]

Samsung vs. Team 8 (Jan 5)
(T)Reality < Antiga > (T)Speed

EG-TL vs. KT (Jan 6)
(Z)Revival < Ohana > (T)Flash

SKT vs. STX (Jan 6)
(P)BeSt < Ohana > (T)Last

Team 8 vs. CJ (Jan 7)
(P)Sang < Entombed > (Z)Hydra

Samsung vs. Woongjin (Jan 7)
(P)Stork < Entombed > (T)Light

STX vs. KT (Jan 8)
(P)Dear < Cloud > (P)Wooki

SKT vs. EG-TL (Jan 8)
(T)Fantasy < Entombed > (P)JYP

By using the tables we've provided, you can estimate how many matches any given player will play. Note that this is vastly different from regular proleague due to available team slots decreasing from 6+ to 4-. All aces will probably play every match as long as their teammates don't all-kill first. Players who are not regulars will probably only get to play 1-2 matches per round, if they are lucky.

And depending on the team, non-ace regulars will get sent out a variable amount of times. For example, soO will probably almost always be sent out because SKT1 doesn't have many options. On the other hand, Bravo, Zero, free, Light, and Flying will all be competing for ~2 spots on Woongjin Stars each match, so you'll see them each about 40% as much as you did in regular proleague. Another example is Team 8, a team that consistently used the same seven players. Besides their ace, Baby, look to see all the all of the Team 8 regulars playing around 60% of the time each. With this information, you can accordingly value Woongjin players down and Team 8 players up from what you would have in regular proleague.

Pick an ace

Aces, players who are capable of going on big streaks, are the key to winners league. Not only will they, on average, score more points each time they're sent out, they'll also almost always be guaranteed to be sent out in each match.

Look at opening lineups

Players who open up are guaranteed to play at least one game in a match. Since competition for playing slots is already so competitive, this ups the value of a player dramatically. In addition, if an opening player has the potential to all-kill, he will have the opportunity to get four wins. Whereas had he been sent out somewhere in the middle and his teammates already won a few matches, he might have only gotten 1-2 points.

Don't double up on teammates too much

Unlike in regular FPL, picking three or more players from the same team is probably not a good idea in the winners league format. These players will generally step on each others' toes and steal potential wins from each other.



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Writers: monk. and Waxangel.
Graphics: HawaiianPig.
Editors: monk., and Waxangel.
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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 21:00:21
January 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#2
Gah I love proleague, thanks for the writeup!
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 21:15:08
January 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#3
Note: Thorzain should be yellow in the first chart

edit:
I was waiting all day for the second half of this write-up. Excellent.

I'm especially excited to see if Thorzain AND Stephano are played at the same match. I think it would break foreigners from the mold of being "extras" to the team, to being part of a core team in SPL.

Especially if Major plays the EG-TL vs. Team 8 (however unlikely it may be)!

Overall, I am the colour of excitement.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 04 2013 21:02 GMT
#4
This article just made me feel terrible about my Fantasy Team TT. Still, great writeup!
darkphantom
Profile Joined November 2012
98 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 21:02:55
January 04 2013 21:02 GMT
#5
From the darkness i come
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33399 Posts
January 04 2013 21:08 GMT
#6
EG should really give dates, or at least date ranges for IdrA, Demu, and Stephano's arrivals, if only for Fantasy purposes T_T
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
January 04 2013 21:10 GMT
#7
Very nice writeup.

And yes, dates would be nice.
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
January 04 2013 21:16 GMT
#8
FPL tips:

Try to have one player from each team that's playing. This means for almost all days, you will have someone to cheer for. Makes watching live 9000% better.
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
January 04 2013 21:16 GMT
#9
That is one sexy bridge!
DeathSquire36
Profile Joined June 2011
United States167 Posts
January 04 2013 21:22 GMT
#10
This article says EG-TL has a -1 map score. Liquipedia says they have a +1 map score. Liquipedia is right. (You can also count up their W/L in the diagram in this article :-P ).
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
January 04 2013 21:22 GMT
#11
I really enjoyed reading this, it shows how much planing each time really needs to do for each round of PL :D :D
Some times you just gotta wish...
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
January 04 2013 21:41 GMT
#12
Go EG-TL!!!
All I do is Stim.
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
January 04 2013 21:43 GMT
#13
I just love Team Liquid.... not even read it now but I just have to say it...
"It is not a shameful thing to be unable to reach the goal. It's becoming afraid and running away, even before considering the fact that the road is long and rough, that is truly cowardly." by - Lim Yo Hwan aka SlayerS_Boxer from "Crazy as me"
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
January 04 2013 21:51 GMT
#14
FYI, for KT Rolster it says HoeJJa is terran and Miso is zerg... Nice preview though!
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 04 2013 21:52 GMT
#15
+ Show Spoiler +

Holy shit I absolutely love the picture used for the thumbnail. FlaSh on the left like "U mad? lol", Bisu on the right like "Yea he mad lololo" but Jaedong in the middle is all like "The wrath of the Tyrant will ravage your vagina".


Rooting for the two KTs to crush everyone and eventually face off in the finals again.

FlaSh and Bison for the win! ^^
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
January 04 2013 21:57 GMT
#16
On January 05 2013 06:52 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Holy shit I absolutely love the picture used for the thumbnail. FlaSh on the left like "U mad? lol", Bisu on the right like "Yea he mad lololo" but Jaedong in the middle is all like "The wrath of the Tyrant will ravage your vagina".


Rooting for the two KTs to crush everyone and eventually face off in the finals again.

FlaSh and Bison for the win! ^^


There is only ONE KT. Beware of counterfeits.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 04 2013 22:04 GMT
#17
On January 05 2013 06:57 forumtext wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:52 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Holy shit I absolutely love the picture used for the thumbnail. FlaSh on the left like "U mad? lol", Bisu on the right like "Yea he mad lololo" but Jaedong in the middle is all like "The wrath of the Tyrant will ravage your vagina".


Rooting for the two KTs to crush everyone and eventually face off in the finals again.

FlaSh and Bison for the win! ^^


There is only ONE KT. Beware of counterfeits.


Let's be honest here, Bison and Fantaji are doing significantly better at the moment. Of course I want KT to crush everyone but it's not as likely as it was two seasons ago... So I wouldn't mind it as much if T1 were the best, for now at least. ^^

Also I swear I'm sick of all these HerO fanbois all over the place. >_<
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
January 04 2013 22:31 GMT
#18
Waaaah. Changed my team so much. Im just leaving it now. I get soo crazy over it :D
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 22:48:42
January 04 2013 22:48 GMT
#19
On January 05 2013 06:08 Waxangel wrote:
EG should really give dates, or at least date ranges for IdrA, Demu, and Stephano's arrivals, if only for Fantasy purposes T_T


Hahaha. ;D All the more reason not to pick them and IdrA is perfect for your anti-teams.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 04 2013 22:48 GMT
#20
hoejja is T? (and in the last article, Leta should be P)
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Cocoba
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada352 Posts
January 04 2013 22:52 GMT
#21
EG-TL able to bring it back from being in the bottom of the group. Now with Revival + Stephano, they should be able to get at least get into the top 3.
:D
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 22:54:10
January 04 2013 22:52 GMT
#22
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 04 2013 08:33 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
I've never heard of S2, and now I'm going to piss off almost everyone who watched BW and say that Bisu and Jaedong suck. I don't think they'll stop sucking within one month, either, so they're all going on the anti-team.



Kill me. Please.


Oh well. I did name my team Last Place, fully expecting to end up there. I guess this is kinda to be expected.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
January 04 2013 22:56 GMT
#23
I dont know why but i find it upsetting that during this " Even those unfamiliar with Brood War have heard of the legend of Flash, but the story of his supporting cast bears telling as well. Since his debut year, there has always been grumbling about how Flash takes on a disproportionate burden for KT Rolster, and how they needed to support him better." it was not mentioned htat he was nicknamed child labor terran
BW4LIFE
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 04 2013 22:59 GMT
#24
good writeup! I am now a little more confident in my shabbily drafted FPL team
DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
January 04 2013 23:14 GMT
#25
Where can we go to watch these?
Dance.943 || "I think he's just going to lose. There's only so many ways you can lose. And he's going to make some kind of units. And I'm going to attack him, and then all his stuff is going to die. That's about the best prediction that I can make" - NonY
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
January 04 2013 23:18 GMT
#26
Nice writeup guys :D, and good tips too ^^
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
January 04 2013 23:19 GMT
#27
Will be fun to see how this round unfolds. I have no idea so I just gambled here, picked up Revival for my team since he seems to be really cheap.

BaBy is my captain as usual, go BaBy!
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 04 2013 23:35 GMT
#28
doh, just when I was comfortable with my Fantasy you go and tell me Stephano's arrival date isn't set yet D;

might need to make some last minute changes, again....
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mhael
Profile Joined January 2012
United States102 Posts
January 04 2013 23:56 GMT
#29
I wish this had a dedicated website like GOM.TV where I could purchase a membership and watch VODS. I don't like the current set up - very unprofessional.

LOVE GSL format - it seems like a real professional company.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 05 2013 00:00 GMT
#30
argh still so undecided about fantasy team
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
January 05 2013 00:11 GMT
#31
So Idra wasn't available for the first round right? Will he be there for the second, the article says nothing about it...
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 05 2013 00:15 GMT
#32
i'm so happy to be hyped up for this SPL again after that hybrid season.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
PonceDeLEGABE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States117 Posts
January 05 2013 00:20 GMT
#33
Beautiful analysis and write up guys and thank you for the fantasy pro league.
Sikly
Profile Joined June 2011
United States413 Posts
January 05 2013 00:56 GMT
#34
On January 05 2013 09:00 opterown wrote:
argh still so undecided about fantasy team


Go with your gut, thinking about it just makes it feel that much worse when you end up getting smashed!
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 05 2013 01:02 GMT
#35
Great articles. But they make me obsess over my fantasy team too much.
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RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 01:29:24
January 05 2013 01:28 GMT
#36
Does the "In Line-up" column count when players were going to be sent out but the match didn't make it that far? I was confused when I saw Stats sent out 6 times but still 5 - 0.
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NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
January 05 2013 01:37 GMT
#37
I fucking love this write up, amazing job Wax and Monk.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
January 05 2013 01:41 GMT
#38
The huge X-factor here is that Stephano's arrival date doesn't seem set at all, and he could miss a few weeks of Proleague depending on how much buffer time he wants before playing Code S (the dates for which are not set either). Fantasy players, pick him at your caution (or gamble for him on your Anti-Team!).

How do we gamble for him on our anti-team? Whenever I tried picking him or IdrA I was told "Cannot choose players who are unable to play in Week 1 for anti-team."

Apart from that good writeup.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
January 05 2013 01:56 GMT
#39
Bisu will find himself in sc2... I went through a dozen of low points in his career - he is the most talented progamer ever to to play sc and I'm sure its only a matter of time. When the Revoltionists exploades you better take cover...
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b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
January 05 2013 02:06 GMT
#40
Double weapon still going strong
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
January 05 2013 02:23 GMT
#41
It would be cool if you had a small interview section with one of the consistent top scorers in the fantasy league after the next round.

Enjoyed the write up
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
January 05 2013 02:49 GMT
#42
On January 05 2013 10:28 RagequitBM wrote:
Does the "In Line-up" column count when players were going to be sent out but the match didn't make it that far? I was confused when I saw Stats sent out 6 times but still 5 - 0.

Yes
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King_law1992
Profile Joined December 2011
United States47 Posts
January 05 2013 02:53 GMT
#43
Round 2 will be good for EG-TL
Moltke
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia10 Posts
January 05 2013 03:16 GMT
#44
Where can I watch this? Can't find a stream for the Stars CJ game 01/05/2013
NoFool
Profile Joined March 2012
Brazil16 Posts
January 05 2013 03:17 GMT
#45
NO stream today ?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 05 2013 03:21 GMT
#46
^ http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SC2 Proleague
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
January 05 2013 03:48 GMT
#47
Ssak! 4 players not 5? Reminiscent of old team leagues I guess.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
SneakingApple
Profile Joined September 2011
30 Posts
January 05 2013 03:56 GMT
#48
Whats the name of the song that they play when a set end?
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 05 2013 04:03 GMT
#49
On January 05 2013 08:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
doh, just when I was comfortable with my Fantasy you go and tell me Stephano's arrival date isn't set yet D;

might need to make some last minute changes, again....


Don't worry Frosted sir!

Dates have arrived!
@EvilGeniuses:
He is coming. Prepare yourself. @EGStephanoRC will begin living in the EG training house in Korea starting on January 7th! #Proleague


(as well as a Jaedong/Stephano date ^^)"
‏@EGJaedongRC
OMG!!! His coming
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
January 05 2013 04:18 GMT
#50
since when was DeMusliM coming to Korea?
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
January 05 2013 04:50 GMT
#51
On January 05 2013 13:03 tili wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 08:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
doh, just when I was comfortable with my Fantasy you go and tell me Stephano's arrival date isn't set yet D;

might need to make some last minute changes, again....


Don't worry Frosted sir!

Dates have arrived!
@EvilGeniuses:
He is coming. Prepare yourself. @EGStephanoRC will begin living in the EG training house in Korea starting on January 7th! #Proleague


(as well as a Jaedong/Stephano date ^^)"
‏@EGJaedongRC
OMG!!! His coming

Sounds awesome.

Also, I really like Flash's face on the preview picture xD
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 05 2013 09:06 GMT
#52
GOAT aka Bisu shall all-kill every game for SKt1.
bisu fanboy
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 10:24:30
January 05 2013 10:21 GMT
#53
On January 05 2013 06:08 Waxangel wrote:
EG should really give dates, or at least date ranges for IdrA, Demu, and Stephano's arrivals, if only for Fantasy purposes T_T

Stephano's former manager said about a week ago that he shoud take the plane on the seventh or eigth of January.

edit: Ok. EG have confirmed this^^
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
January 05 2013 14:39 GMT
#54
Flash's face is hilariouuus!
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
January 05 2013 18:10 GMT
#55
On January 05 2013 06:02 BrokenMirage wrote:
This article just made me feel terrible about my Fantasy Team TT. Still, great writeup!

me too >"< I just found out that JYP is doing fairly well in SPL... and Puma sucks
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
January 05 2013 20:05 GMT
#56
On January 05 2013 23:39 Andr3 wrote:
Flash's face is hilariouuus!

Haha, I was going to say the same thing.

He's really excited for that surprise.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
January 05 2013 20:17 GMT
#57
On January 06 2013 05:05 Brotatolol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 23:39 Andr3 wrote:
Flash's face is hilariouuus!

Haha, I was going to say the same thing.

He's really excited for that surprise.


Where am i looking for this? I can't find it anywhere :p
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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
January 06 2013 03:16 GMT
#58
Change in format should be interesting. GO SKT!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
number01
Profile Joined December 2012
203 Posts
January 06 2013 16:25 GMT
#59
I saw EG-TL vs KT ROLSTER and this is the impression that I got from the matches. This time I cannot blame the players because they can do so much with their abilities. The coaches, however, did not seem to be prepared and did not seem to have a strategy to begin with. It is my impression that EG TL coaches were just throwing their best players at Flash without thinking and with the hope that one of them would beat him. After the first lose, it was like a domino effect, the rest of the players were not able to win. Again, i did not see any type of strategy from the part of EG TL but rather a mentality were if we send our best player first and we lose the match...then we lose the whole game because the coaches did not prepare anything for later. I expect to see better results with the wide variety of players that EG TL have at their disposal.
Idra is the reason I play SC
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
January 07 2013 02:40 GMT
#60
Fun fact: In his BW days, (T)sSak was often referred to as sSuk
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
Prozone
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom5 Posts
January 07 2013 20:42 GMT
#61
The title image is one of the best i've seen
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