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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
November 23 2012 02:29 GMT
#41
Mafia so fucking trash he only 2-0'd lucifron in open bracket stage.

Fucking awful write up jesus christ.
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UHF
Profile Joined April 2012
Australia58 Posts
November 23 2012 02:29 GMT
#42
I applaud the coverage, but I can't say I totally enjoyed the write-up. I've been hearing 'storyline' tossed around lately, as well as the lack of mid-tier player exposure. There are quite a few lines in this article that take backwards steps to achieving this, especially when discussing the regional players. I'd be really bummed if I was one of them reading this.
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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
November 23 2012 02:32 GMT
#43
its pretty obvious that waxangel is just the old bitter grandpa in the room who hates the young kids stepping on his lawn of BW elitism
Chris_CityHunter
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia310 Posts
November 23 2012 02:41 GMT
#44
I'll be cheering for all the SEA and Australian players, win, lose or draw, these guys are ballers!

roguez
Profile Joined April 2011
New Zealand71 Posts
November 23 2012 02:43 GMT
#45
Next time can someone who actually researches the players, their performances at the event and their results do the preview? People have already pointed out the inconsistencies and straight up bad journalism behind this.

Artosis however is a total baller, perhaps TL should get someone more like him to do this sort of shit, since Waxangel has no idea clearly.
<3 # Clan: Terror Australis # Team: Archaic MSi eSports# @Rogue_SC2 # <3
SenSai
Profile Joined November 2005
Australia335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 04:20:19
November 23 2012 02:55 GMT
#46
This was an absolutely disgusting write-up of IEM. Firstly it's one thing to be biased but to openly bad manner a whole regions player base (many who are attending their first international event) on the front page of TL..

Disappointed to say the least.
Waio
Profile Joined September 2010
Chile82 Posts
November 23 2012 02:56 GMT
#47
Gogogogo Grubby and White-Ra!

mGGDrGooSe
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1 Post
November 23 2012 03:13 GMT
#48
Oh please. You expected a higher quality post from TL? The only place with a worse signal-to-noise ratio is reddit. Our guys repeatedly beat Kr, NA, and Euro pros on ladder and in online tourneys. Unfortunately, SC2 fanboys only care about offline results, which will come in time. It just kinda unfortunate that IEM condone this level of sub-par writing and idiocy (https://twitter.com/IEM/status/271807020594765825). No wonder people are turning off from the major tourneys recently if this is level professionalism they scrape up.
Asrathiel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Australia377 Posts
November 23 2012 03:17 GMT
#49
Hmm how about Artosis' article gets a front page spot instead of this? Lovely :/
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NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
November 23 2012 03:33 GMT
#50
On November 23 2012 05:15 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Only 3 terran...


Yeah so much PvZ... Didn't we just have a tournament where it was all PvZ? Like last weekend?
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 03:41:57
November 23 2012 03:34 GMT
#51
The write-up is just stating the true nature of regional balance, notice how only SEA server areas are upset.
It isn't like he talks up the Koreans like they are unbeatable, MC has been identified as one of them that may under-perform.
The SEA players have no significant accomplishments that are noteworthy, especially for the TL audience that are used to the level of play like Taeja, Sea, Stephano, and DRG.

This tournament isn't even worth a write-up except for the name value of IEM, and the players have very few if any significant results. The level of play would be higher watching a low-GM on KR ladder than this IEM.

Why would anyone watch IEM over IPL?

EDIT:
On November 23 2012 12:13 mGGDrGooSe wrote:
Oh please. You expected a higher quality post from TL? The only place with a worse signal-to-noise ratio is reddit. Our guys repeatedly beat Kr, NA, and Euro pros on ladder and in online tourneys. Unfortunately, SC2 fanboys only care about offline results, which will come in time. It just kinda unfortunate that IEM condone this level of sub-par writing and idiocy (https://twitter.com/IEM/status/271807020594765825). No wonder people are turning off from the major tourneys recently if this is level professionalism they scrape up.


SEA players consistently beating tier 1 Koreans?
Offline tournaments mean less than online tournaments?

Great logic there.
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
November 23 2012 03:36 GMT
#52
i wonder how the casters' gonna introduce jabito..
Not even death can save you from me.
aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore846 Posts
November 23 2012 03:54 GMT
#53
yea agree with everyone here

artosis wrote a much more informed piece because he actually knows the players hes talking about. He doesn't generalise them into one lump of bad players even for the players he doesnt know yet (e.g yekke). please spotlight that article instead.

http://scdojo.tumblr.com/post/36325404251/why-you-should-check-out-iem-singapore
sc2sea.com - The SEA / ANZ community
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
November 23 2012 03:57 GMT
#54
wtf this write up?????
Not even death can save you from me.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
November 23 2012 04:07 GMT
#55
Jesus guys, calm down. I'm the guy who wrote the whole "AUSTRALIANS ARE GOING TO FUCKING KICK ASS AT MLG" thread and I think we're all jumping the gun a bit. I find it heartwarming that SEA sticks up for itself like this but some of the things being said are just silly.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
SunsetSC2
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia148 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 04:20:28
November 23 2012 04:18 GMT
#56
On November 23 2012 12:34 Cattlecruiser wrote:
The SEA players have no significant accomplishments that are noteworthy, especially for the TL audience that are used to the level of play like Taeja, Sea, Stephano, and DRG.


So Mafia 2-0'ing Lucifron in the open bracket, a player who Waxangel cites as the lone Terran hope, is not an accomplishment?

Pig reaching the semis of Code A qualifiers isn't an accomplishment?

Is that enough for the "TL audience"?
Or is this you and the author being severely uninformed?
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Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
November 23 2012 04:31 GMT
#57
On November 23 2012 13:18 SunsetSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 12:34 Cattlecruiser wrote:
The SEA players have no significant accomplishments that are noteworthy, especially for the TL audience that are used to the level of play like Taeja, Sea, Stephano, and DRG.


So Mafia 2-0'ing Lucifron in the open bracket, a player who Waxangel cites as the lone Terran hope, is not an accomplishment?

Pig reaching the semis of Code A qualifiers isn't an accomplishment?

Is that enough for the "TL audience"?
Or is this you and the author being severely uninformed?


1. Foreign zerg beating a foreign terran, ONCE.

2. Foreign zerg ALMOST qualifying for a Korean tournament.

Sounds very impressive. Please tell me more. lol

There is a difference between being informed and obsessing over bottom feeders.
SunsetSC2
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia148 Posts
November 23 2012 04:38 GMT
#58
On November 23 2012 13:31 Cattlecruiser wrote:
1. Foreign zerg beating a foreign terran, ONCE.

2. Foreign zerg ALMOST qualifying for a Korean tournament.

Sounds very impressive. Please tell me more. lol

There is a difference between being informed and obsessing over bottom feeders.


Keep up the tone, mate. It's doing wonders for your cause.

It's about the double standard in the article. You can't call the person who 2-0'ed the "Terran hope" in this tournament a no-hoper. It doesn't make sense. It's like the open bracket results weren't taken into consideration in the preview article for the group stage, which makes no sense.

Mafia also held KR GM Rank 1 for awhile, you impressed yet?

These aren't bottom-feeders. If that's what you call a bottom-feeder, good for you, but that doesn't change the fact that the article wasn't well researched.
*pew* *laser shield* || @Sunset_SC2
TL+ Member
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
November 23 2012 05:02 GMT
#59
It would be nice if SEA players were hyped a bit for their home tourney.

But that wasnt waxangels intention. He just did a normal preview like he always does. Thats perfectly in his rights. I personally think as well that no SEA player is specially favored to advance in their group (though I except 1-2 to upset).

SEA players (besides moonglade) have almost never performed well internationally, so waxangels predictions are not too far off. At last years IEM for SEA, PIG and iaguz both didnt win a single game. At BWC Mafia went 0-4. At MLG, only moonglade made a splash. There is the occasional success story (Mafia beating Lucifron), and there is definite hope for another, probably bigger one.

waxangel is totally not BM vs SEA in his article, more so comments from players like iaguz and deth, which is really disappointing to see.
Meko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States129 Posts
November 23 2012 05:02 GMT
#60
Goodness, quite a thrashing going on in this article. O.o
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