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[Code S] Ro32 Final Day Preview/Group G Recap (S5)

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November 8th, 2012 00:11 GMT
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Code S: Ro32 Group G Recap


By: Porcelina

Results from Live Report Thread by TheBB.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +

Leenock vs. BoguS
(Z)Leenock <Cloud Kingdom> (T)BoguS
(Z)Leenock <Entombed Valley> (T)BoguS

Leenock wins 2-0!

Keen vs. Squirtle
(T)KeeN <Abyssal City> (P)Squirtle
(T)KeeN <Daybreak> (P)Squirtle

Keen wins 2-0!

Winners' Match
(Z)Leenock <Daybreak> (T)KeeN
(Z)Leenock <Whirlwind> (T)KeeN
(Z)Leenock <Entombed Valley> (T)KeeN

Leenock wins 2-1!

Losers' Match
(T)BoguS <Daybreak> (P)Squirtle
(T)BoguS <Cloud Kingdom> (P)Squirtle

Bogus wins 2-1!

Final Match
(T)KeeN <Entombed Valley> (T)BoguS
(T)KeeN (T)BoguS

Bogus wins 2-0!



Leenock and Bogus advance to Code S RO16!


The Zerg Also Rises
- (Z)FXOLeenock advances in first place, putting seven Zergs in the Ro16.


Another group played, another Zerg advances. In terms of narratives, one has to feel that (Z)RorO let down more than just himself in forgetting about ultralisks in his final game against (T)Hack in last week's games. As it stands, four out of seven groups have been won by Zerg and seven out of eight Zerg have advanced to the round of sixteen. On the opposite of the spectrum, Protoss is making the Sad Zealot Fan Club have a resurgence, with (P)ST_Squirtle going out in another disappointing performance on behalf of the chosen of Aiur. In the middle of it all, the two Terran fought it out for the remaining spot.

‘Round of sixteen is a good place’, Leenock said. ‘There is a lot of Zerg’, his brethren replied.

(Z)FXOLeenock came into the group as a solid favorite to advance. His ZvT in general would have to be rated as a solid tier above the ones of Innovation and Keen, while Squirtle suffered from the large power shift between Zerg and Protoss. Gone are the days where you expect to see Leenock sometimes simply lose to Terran cheese and PvZ all-ins. He might have suffered a tough loss to Taeja last season, but his general consistency as evidenced by team league performances and hectic MLG tournaments is a real strength. Group play in Code S occupies a strange middle ground between careful preparation and rewarding consistency; Leenock has proven adept at both formats and the group play gave another indication of his prowess on both fronts.

His play against both Innovation and Keen was a tour de force of showing Zerg diversity and creativity. Against Innovation he was utterly dominant; it scarcely looked like the STX Soul player had any real chance of winning. The Cloud Kingdom game was a rare treat even from Leenock, a player known for his unorthodox builds. With early investment in lings, banelings and roaches, he attacked bringing queens with him to break the banshee defense of the Terran. It functioned as a delayed attack usually performed as an all-in, but with a third base he could saturate and with the time to bring queens, it ended up almost completely breaking the opponent. From an advantageous position, Leenock was able to finally get his drone count up and win with standard play.

In the games against Keen, Leenock relied on spire play throughout. While he lost the first game on Daybreak opting for the road less travelled in the midgame with mutalisk play, the two following games showcased once more his aggressive nature. With a two base heavy mutalisk opening on Whirlwind, he was able to cripple Keen utterly, punishing the game one victor’s lack of mobility and the lack of defense for a muta cloud that Leenock cleverly obfuscated through the early midgame. The last game was again decided early on, as Keen was helpless to repel a flood of roaches and banes.

Fascinatingly, Leenock used five very different builds in his five games against Terran this group. He was victorious in four, all of them featuring heavy deviations from the standard TvZ metagame. Meanwhile, he lost the only game where he looked to be playing standard, though one wonders just how standard midgame spire play really can be called at this point. However, we know that he is no slouch in a standard game either, so simply being able to execute such a wide variety of tactics must be a headache for any opponent coming up. Leenock has yet to taste ultimate victory in GSL, but between his excellent ZvZ and what is becoming a formidable list of strategies at his disposal, he must remain a heavy favorite to make it to the playoffs once again.

The road to Code A is paved with untried cheese.
- Losing his first match, (T)STX_Innovation rallies to be the second KeSPA player to make round of sixteen.


I think almost every preview and recap done of (T)STX_Innovation (aka Bogus) may have included phrases such as ‘it is still difficult to tell how good he is’ or ‘he knows how to all-in at the exact right time’. As much as we strive to learn, to figure out players and to map out tendencies and strengths through watching, the STX player still remains a bit of a mystery. In Group G, he did what could be reasonably expected of him. He lost convincingly to Leenock first, but the games did not give us much indication of his standard play and holding the unorthodox attacks of the Zerg player was a lot to ask. However, he dispatched of both Squirtle and Keen without being pressed too hard.

Against (P)Squirtle, he did exactly what should have been obvious to anyone really following Innovation. On Daybreak, he proxied two barracks between the natural and third of his opponent and executed the all-in with brutal efficiency. The following game was a more standard two base push, with medivacs and stim that caught Squirtle in the difficult two base transition up to charge and storm. With the Protoss player’s defense looking subpar, Innovation had no problems securing a match with (T)KeeN to decide who would move on.

Against the MVP Terran, he again looked like simply the better player. Game one on Entombed Valley was quite messy, with Innovation’s first tank push into Keen’s natural initially looking promising, but failed to do significant damage. In the midgame, the two seemed to fall into a pattern of trading who exactly had the advantage until Keen half heartedly went for a counterattack upon seeing his opponent move out. With only marines, he was not able to do much damage; Innovation sniped the tanks in the middle of the map before cleaning up the bio in his natural and gained a significant army advantage. In the final game of the day, Bel’Shir Vestige proved to be Keen’s undoing, as Innovation simply pushed in with far superior numbers in the early midgame. Once again, the KeSPA Terran failed to look great, but he did once more confirm his aptitude for knowing exactly when to push and punish unwary opponents.

All in all, Innovation strengthened the beliefs we already held about him; willing to cheese, good timings and a fairly solid player overall. But the questions we have remain unanswered; perhaps it is his play style that makes one wonder exactly how good he truly is. One way or another, he remains an underdog to advance past the round of sixteen, and it would be surprising to not see a Zerg snap him up greedily during group selections.

'You are not a bad player. You are only a case of arrested development.'

I had expected (T)MVP.KeeN to either look good and not advance, or look horrible and somehow make it through. What I had not expected was what we saw, a player clearly outclassing Squirtle in all areas of TvP then taking the first game off Leenock in the winner’s final with defiant macro play. What we expected to see was cheese, hellions and general aggressive play. Keen looked through his first three games a much stronger, solid all-rounder than what we have previously seen. However in Keen’esque fashion, it all came crashing down in the end and he finished the day going 0-4, losing to a variety of early pressure plays and losing his composure completely in the first game against his fellow Terran in the group. Ultimately, there is much to build on for Keen, if he is able to progress and grow into the player he showed us a glimpse of today, then succeeding in a Nada-less Code S environment might be on the cards.

‘You are all a lost generation’

In terms of pure results, Protoss is heading back to the dark ages. After a few seasons of sustained Code S success, the current one has looked like a bit of a disaster. However, no Protoss has exemplified this as evocatively as (P)ST_Squirtle. While a player such as Seed put up a hard fight but was not quite good enough and HerO looked very unlucky to lose out, Squirtle was nowhere near where he could be expected to be. He should have been to his group was Creator was to Group E, losing to the favorite Zerg but dismantling his two Terran opponents. Instead, he never got to play against Leenock and was most disappointing in his usually solid PvT endeavors. Better players than Squirtle have fallen down to Code A before, but the way he did it looked curiously ominous for the Startale player.

Code S Ro32 Group H Preview


By: Waxangel

Group H: (Z)ST_Life, (T)8th_BaBy, (T)AX.Ryung, (P)MVP.Vampire

Past Meets Present

We have a consensus best-player-in-the-world again, and he's only fifteen years old. (Z)ST_Life tore through the Code S Season Four, leaving no stone unturned as he hunted down the best players in the world and ended their tournament lives. And as if he was discontent with just beating (Z)NesTea, (Z)Symbol, (P)Seed, (T)TaeJa, (T)MKP, and (T)Mvp, he went off to Dallas to add (Z)Leenock and (T)Flash to his list of famous victims.

At this point, I'd like to say I 100% support running the engines on the hype train at max-speed and liberally giving out tickets on the bandwagon. Looking back on the early days of Flash, too much time was wasted calling him a cheesy kid, saying he still needed to pass X test, and generally just asking questions instead of being excited for a player who was undoubtedly a prodigy. Life definitely has the potential to become one of the best ever, and we should be excited about it.

In that context, it's an amusing coincidence that Life's first opponent is one of Brood War's cautionary tales against overhyping. (T)8th_BaBy debuted in the Brood War scene at the incredibly young age of thirteen (he was picked up by a pro-team when he was twelve), and showed an immense amount of raw potential. At that time, Flash was already showing that age meant very little in the world of pro-gaming, and many looked towards Baby to become the next big thing.

Alas, the hype was never fully justified. Baby became an excellent player as many had expected, but just not a championship player. He was a mainstay on the WeMade FOX (and later Team Eight) roster, and was unquestionably their ace at some points. But in the individual leagues, where glory is truly won, he would inevitably fall short.

You have to wonder what Baby was thinking when Life picked him as his first opponent. It being Life, there probably wasn't any deep meaning behind it – he wanted to play ZvT, and Baby seemed like the easiest opponent. But if you were Baby, how could you not feel just the slightest tinge of bitterness, to be picked by a player who has realized all of YOUR dreams?


Outsiders

The two other players in the group aren't connected by a fanciful, historical narrative, but they share a link in being players on the fringe. (T)AX.Ryung and (P)MVP.Vampire are in Code S, but are expected by few to challenge for the title.

Ryung at least has a relatively high profile – his part on SlayerS, MSPaint rivalry with MMA, and the fan-penned second son storylines between him, (T)MMA, and (T)BoxeR made him something of a cult favorite. He's sure to gain more popularity now that he's joined the international team Axiom, who have the support of incorrigible hype-machine TotalBiscuit. Gameplay wise, Ryung's been an attractive player for hipster StarCraft II fans as well, showing some truly brilliant games every now and then. He's a prime candidate for "if only he could be a little bit more consistent" fandom.

Vampire, on the other hand, still suffers from the lack of an identity, despite over a year of activity. He's been in Code A few seasons, made occasional GSTL appearances, and even went to a DreamHack once (if you remember this, kudos to you). Yet, there's been precious little to note about his play – this writer's most memorable moment of Vampire is how he thwarted the world's worst 1/1/1 in last season's Code A. What does Vampire see when he looks himself in the mirror?

Ryung will want to do well in this group and make a good debut for Axiom, but he doesn't exactly need it. He's on a foreign team, getting a salary, and has the opportunity to travel to foreign events and market himself in ways that are non-skill related. For Vampire, this is literally all he has in his career, and this is the make or break moment he has lived for for over a year.


Breakdown and Prediction

Obviously, Life is a ridiculous favorite to make it through. If we had to throw an obligatory bone to Baby, word on the street says he wasn't actually a good pick for Life in Starcrafting terms, as he is being called one of the better KeSPA players, proving it with the best regular season record in the recent MvP tournament. Even GomTV seemed impressed enough with his performance behind closed doors to give him a Code S seed this time around.

That said, all the KeSPA players have struggled so far. They were either knocked out quickly, or just barely slipped by with games that made you question their ability to succeed in the later stages. With a tough first opponent in Life, and a TvT specialist in Ryung in the group, third place or lower seems like the most realistic bet for Baby.

The non-descript Vampire is the wild card in this group, having made it to Code S without showing any games of distinction. Luckily for him, Ryung is not known for his TvP at all, while Baby has thus far, been all hype and no substance. With Life starting off in the opposite bracket, the door is wide open for Vampire to sneak into Ro16. Beating Ryung and Baby to make it to the Ro16 won't really do much for his renown, but it would be a start.


Life > Baby
Vampire > Ryung
Life > Vampire
Ryung > Baby
Vampire > Ryung

Life and Vampire advance.






Writers: Porcelina and Waxangel.
Graphics and Art: Meko and shiroiusagi.
Editors: Waxangel.
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asdfOu
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United States2089 Posts
November 08 2012 00:20 GMT
#2
life and baby to make it out
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THM
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Bulgaria1131 Posts
November 08 2012 00:22 GMT
#3
Sounds good, will watch.
glzElectromaster
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Japan2474 Posts
November 08 2012 00:23 GMT
#4
Excellent. Although I expect Life and Ryung to advance.
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clocked
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November 08 2012 00:23 GMT
#5
I am hoping for Life and Ryung. I want him to rep TB's team more and more. I want him to win GSL and TB and his wife goes up and tosses him up in the air.
TeeTS
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Germany2762 Posts
November 08 2012 00:25 GMT
#6
Just for the sake of race diversion. Please Vampire make it
GolemMadness
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Canada11044 Posts
November 08 2012 00:26 GMT
#7
My guess would be Life and Ryung, but I'm hoping for Life and Baby. :D
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November 08 2012 00:36 GMT
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Canada39254 Posts
November 08 2012 00:40 GMT
#9
Life and Ryung are going through, sorry Vampire.
kabar
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United States616 Posts
November 08 2012 00:43 GMT
#10
i've got life and ryung. hope ryung shows some good games.
ragz_gt
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9172 Posts
November 08 2012 00:48 GMT
#11
What's the odds on BaBy / Ryung? Has to be better than +200 right?
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JJH777
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United States4418 Posts
November 08 2012 00:54 GMT
#12
Ryung and Vampire!
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Switzerland1983 Posts
November 08 2012 00:58 GMT
#13
Life beats BaBy

Vampire beats Ryung

Life beats Vampire

Ryung beats Baby

Vampire beats Ryung.
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Iraq16955 Posts
November 08 2012 00:59 GMT
#14
Chapeau bas to Fionn, who predicted that Bogus wasn't just any KeSPA terran, when he was losing games in droves. for this group I'll predict Life and Ryung
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Australia54784 Posts
November 08 2012 01:02 GMT
#15
hoping for ryung and life, i guess
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Norway6402 Posts
November 08 2012 01:10 GMT
#16
Life and Ryung has this, easy peasy.
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November 08 2012 01:13 GMT
#17
Life and Baby advance, hopefully. Although, I believe your predictions are correct.
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Australia191 Posts
November 08 2012 01:17 GMT
#18
Ryung and Life please win ^__^
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United States10225 Posts
November 08 2012 01:42 GMT
#19
GOGO baby!
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United States13996 Posts
November 08 2012 01:53 GMT
#20
dear lord...Wax and I agree for tomorrow's pool...2012 IS the end of the world
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November 08 2012 01:56 GMT
#21
I'm going to go with the miracle of life
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November 08 2012 01:57 GMT
#22
anyone wanna maek LR? :D
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Australia54784 Posts
November 08 2012 01:58 GMT
#23
On November 08 2012 10:53 Cricketer12 wrote:
dear lord...Wax and I agree for tomorrow's pool...2012 IS the end of the world

blizzard cup finals are going to be played on the 22nd of December - or, in some time zones, the 21st of December - ie the predicted end of the world!!
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November 08 2012 02:01 GMT
#24
come on BABY!
Poll: Tae Yang?

FUCK YEAH! (6)
 
50%

FUCK YEAH! (6)
 
50%

12 total votes

Your vote: Tae Yang?

(Vote): FUCK YEAH!
(Vote): FUCK YEAH!

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Canada32 Posts
November 08 2012 02:17 GMT
#25
life and baby for sure Ryung always lets us down in gsl
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United States60 Posts
November 08 2012 03:07 GMT
#26
Ever since I saw Baby literally destroy LG-IM_MVP in that OGN tourney that went on during WCS Korea(forgot what it was called), I've wanted him to get far in Code S.
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November 08 2012 03:11 GMT
#27
Life and Ryung please!!!
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Where dat snitch at?37085 Posts
November 08 2012 03:11 GMT
#28
On November 08 2012 11:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
come on BABY!
Poll: Tae Yang?

FUCK YEAH! (6)
 
50%

FUCK YEAH! (6)
 
50%

12 total votes

Your vote: Tae Yang?

(Vote): FUCK YEAH!
(Vote): FUCK YEAH!


Where is the "all of the above" option?
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Chile843 Posts
November 08 2012 03:15 GMT
#29
Baby used to be really cute, now he's all grown up and horrible xD
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United States2847 Posts
November 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#30
Whoa. O_O Was hoping/expecting Squirtle and/or Commander Keen to make it to the round of 16. But hey, I'll take an elephant instead.

*sigh* Life's gonna advance easy-peasy.... Gogo BaBy elephant!!
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Israel1448 Posts
November 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#31
So there was GOMTvT, there is Code Z, when will there be Protoss domination? :'(
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United States33 Posts
November 08 2012 04:28 GMT
#32
Life will advance for sure. I want Ryung to advance.
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Australia73 Posts
November 08 2012 04:30 GMT
#33
I want Life and Ryung to advance!!! gogogogo!
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Last Edited: 2012-11-08 05:17:13
November 08 2012 05:13 GMT
#34
On November 08 2012 12:44 moskonia wrote:
So there was GOMTvT, there is Code Z, when will there be Protoss domination? :'(


March 2011 and seasons 2 and 3 of this year? Season 2 and 3 both had 7 Protoss in the ro16 that's only one less than Zerg will have this season if Life gets through and one zerg basically got a free path through due to Rain forfeiting. March only had 5 in the ro16 but it had 3 Protoss in top 4 and of course MC dominated the finals.
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Denmark1008 Posts
November 08 2012 06:22 GMT
#35
On November 08 2012 12:44 moskonia wrote:
So there was GOMTvT, there is Code Z, when will there be Protoss domination? :'(

Code Z eh? Well in 2012 it's been 1 toss, 1 terran and 2 zergs winning, and in these 4 winners there have been 3 protoss runner ups. So it might be coming sooner than you think
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RaiKageRyu
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Canada4773 Posts
November 08 2012 06:44 GMT
#36
That Squirtle vs Innovation Game 2 was the saddest performance from Squirtle I have ever seen. He devolved back into a PokeEgg.
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 08 2012 06:45 GMT
#37
Hoping for Baby to advance, though honestly it's Life and ??? Between the 3 i don't see a clear favorite, perhaps Vampire as second for the fact he needs to prepare for one less race as his Terran opposition.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
November 08 2012 06:57 GMT
#38
didn't you see the current protoss trend? it's hard to imagine Vampire as the 3rd protoss behind Creator and Parting
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Germany10114 Posts
November 08 2012 07:01 GMT
#39
Well atleast CodeZ isn't like GomTvT, where there were endless amounts of Terrans in the GSL. CodeZ is just being Zergs that don't lose. So it will end with a ton of ZvZs instead of starting with a ton of TvTs.
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United States581 Posts
November 08 2012 07:09 GMT
#40
The tile thing on the front page has messed up text positioning for this article for me. Windows 8, latest version of stable chrome.

http://imgur.com/3kALE
JuiceBoxHero
Profile Joined January 2011
117 Posts
November 08 2012 07:24 GMT
#41
BoguS, if you give a lackluster performance and fall out in the ro16 after stealing the show from Keen ima be real salty. Ro16 wouldve counted as better results right? It couldve been a new shotgun ceremony!
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
November 08 2012 07:57 GMT
#42
Squirtle
maru G5L pls
Goshdarnit
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United States540 Posts
November 08 2012 08:06 GMT
#43
On November 08 2012 14:13 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:44 moskonia wrote:
So there was GOMTvT, there is Code Z, when will there be Protoss domination? :'(


March 2011 and seasons 2 and 3 of this year? Season 2 and 3 both had 7 Protoss in the ro16 that's only one less than Zerg will have this season if Life gets through and one zerg basically got a free path through due to Rain forfeiting. March only had 5 in the ro16 but it had 3 Protoss in top 4 and of course MC dominated the finals.


Shhhh! Stay quite about that! Don't you want protoss to get that buff to sentry damage and stalker atk speed? Why can't we just leave these things in the past and agree that Code Z is the first time something like this has happened since that one "GomTVT thing" that people reference but others don't remember, happened?
Lovedoll
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Japan540 Posts
November 08 2012 08:08 GMT
#44
On November 08 2012 12:44 moskonia wrote:
So there was GOMTvT, there is Code Z, when will there be Protoss domination? :'(


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United States8486 Posts
November 08 2012 08:19 GMT
#45
Time to get the Sad Zealot fanclub rolling. Also gotta start the Happy Immortal one soon.
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FakeDeath
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Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 08:34:31
November 08 2012 08:34 GMT
#46
On November 08 2012 12:44 moskonia wrote:
So there was GOMTvT, there is Code Z, when will there be Protoss domination? :'(


WCS Korea.
WCS Asia.

And soon WCS World Championship to held in China.

I am telling you that top 6 will be all Korean protoss in that WCS.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 08 2012 08:37 GMT
#47
Life > Baby
Vampire < Ryung
Life > Ryung
Vampire > Baby
Vampire > Ryung

In true Ryung fashion, looks great in his first set, gets utterly demolished by Life despite putting up good games, and then falls apart in the re-game against Vampire, leaving Life and Vampire to advance. BaBy might be one of the better KeSPA players, and he might end up second in the group if he can have a little build order luck - but he will not be getting past Life.
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Australia54784 Posts
November 08 2012 08:40 GMT
#48
On November 08 2012 17:34 FakeDeath wrote:
I am telling you that top 6 will be all Korean protoss in that WCS.

nah - curious, roro, nerchio, stephano, etc all stand a good chance at taking the protosses out. there are only 5 korean protosses there anyway haha
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JJH777
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United States4418 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 08:53:51
November 08 2012 08:51 GMT
#49
On November 08 2012 17:40 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 17:34 FakeDeath wrote:
I am telling you that top 6 will be all Korean protoss in that WCS.

nah - curious, roro, nerchio, stephano, etc all stand a good chance at taking the protosses out. there are only 5 korean protosses there anyway haha


Curious I agree with. Maaaybe Roro but I heavily doubt it. Nerchio and Stephano won't beat any of the Korean toss going to WCS besides maybe Hero (the liquid one).
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
November 08 2012 08:59 GMT
#50
Hmmmm Baby's MvP performance is far too good.

I say he and Life advance
Akaann
Profile Joined May 2011
Switzerland82 Posts
November 08 2012 09:00 GMT
#51
Pleas Vampire make it out of the group. We need more Protosses. Also I hope Life don't make it out, there are too many Zergs. But I think he will make it with ease...
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France3195 Posts
November 08 2012 09:06 GMT
#52
I don't care who else. This is Ryung's GSL. mark my words.
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Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
November 08 2012 09:27 GMT
#53
On November 08 2012 14:13 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:44 moskonia wrote:
So there was GOMTvT, there is Code Z, when will there be Protoss domination? :'(


March 2011 and seasons 2 and 3 of this year? Season 2 and 3 both had 7 Protoss in the ro16 that's only one less than Zerg will have this season if Life gets through and one zerg basically got a free path through due to Rain forfeiting. March only had 5 in the ro16 but it had 3 Protoss in top 4 and of course MC dominated the finals.

There were only 5 Protoss in the Ro16 in Season 3. There were 7 Terran and 4 Zerg. There were then 3 Protoss in Ro8, 2 in Ro4, and 2 in final. Outside of the final, I wouldn't say that is dominated by Protoss. Season 2 did have a lot of Protoss but was still won by a Terran (Mvp). Two good seasons for Protoss but I would not say that is domination, not in the sense of how Terran used to dominate.

Zerg are having a very good season so far, they have had 7 out of 8 qualifying with that one out being Roro, who lost when he forgot about 6 Ultras in a Nydus canal. If Life qualifies it will be 8 out of 9, which makes it a very good season for Zerg, but I wouldn't call it dominating. There are already 5 Terrans in Ro16 too with 2 in this last group.

On November 08 2012 17:34 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:44 moskonia wrote:
So there was GOMTvT, there is Code Z, when will there be Protoss domination? :'(


WCS Korea.
WCS Asia.

And soon WCS World Championship to held in China.


On topic: My guess for today
Life > Baby
Vampire > Ryung
Life > Vampire
Ryung > Baby
Ryung > Vampire

I want to see Ryung do well. I think he has been quite consistent in Code S and I'd like to see him go a bit further, especially after all the SlayerS drama.
I am telling you that top 6 will be all Korean protoss in that WCS.

On top of what Opterown said of there only being 5 Korean Protoss in the WCS World Championship, the WCS Asia being dominated by Protoss was a direct result of the Protoss success in WCS Korea (look at who qualified for WCS Asia and tell me who would do well outside of the Protoss, I see only Roro and Curious, who finished 5th and 6th).

The Protoss domination of WCS Korea was due to those two good seasons of Code S. Protoss made up 7 out of the top 8 but only 1 wasn't seeded into the tournament. There were not many strong Terran or Zerg seeds. DRG was slumping after losing in the semis of GSL and GSTL, and Mvp forfeited to go play at IEM Cologne. The fact that WCS Korea and WCS Asia were Protoss heavy seems to me to be more due to Protoss being lucky with the timing.
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Denmark9110 Posts
November 08 2012 09:35 GMT
#54
race distribution starts to look like BW with this many zergs
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United States11086 Posts
November 08 2012 10:08 GMT
#55
Pity after last seaon having probably the best distribution and best players of any GSL ever.
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Ordien
Profile Joined January 2012
Denmark34 Posts
November 08 2012 10:10 GMT
#56
Baby and Ryung!

I believe :D
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Guam5609 Posts
November 08 2012 10:37 GMT
#57
LIFE! Please win this! Let's make is 4/5 for Startale in Round of 32!
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Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 08 2012 11:01 GMT
#58
Life and Ryung to advance I'm hoping.
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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
November 08 2012 11:45 GMT
#59
OSL won by protoss and GSL before previous won by protoss. Now they don't have many in Ro8 so it's back to the dark ages
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Avalain
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada308 Posts
November 08 2012 14:22 GMT
#60
Obviously Vampire sees nothing when he looks in the mirror.
You know what unit really has balance problems? Colossi. Why, they look like they could be blown over in a stiff wind!
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Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
November 08 2012 15:30 GMT
#61
Loved that vampire joke.
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Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 15:51:41
November 08 2012 15:51 GMT
#62
But if you were Baby, how could you not feel just the slightest tinge of bitterness, to be picked by a player who has realized all of YOUR dreams?


That way very deep.
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United Kingdom3482 Posts
November 08 2012 16:11 GMT
#63
On November 08 2012 20:45 firehand101 wrote:
OSL won by protoss and GSL before previous won by protoss. Now they don't have many in Ro8 so it's back to the dark ages

It's because we are going into winter now. We will have to wait nine months for the next protoss uprising.
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cailihporcen
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada2 Posts
November 08 2012 17:46 GMT
#64
I'm not sure.... with Life being young I could see him not take this group as seriously as he should because of his success. I think he will be focusing more on his ZvZ then practising for Baby and Vampire especially with all the high level Zergs already in Code S. On that note, i believe there is a real possibility for Life to underestimate his opponents in this group because of most of the reasons the article gives above and fall short of his goal.

Ryung and Vampire make it.

Life 2-0 Baby,
Ryung 2-0 Vampire,
Ryung 2-1 Life,
Vampire 2-0 Baby,
Vampire 2-1 Life
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DiLiGu
Profile Joined December 2011
United States185 Posts
November 08 2012 20:08 GMT
#65
Life is an amazing zerg, but wow, I just don't want 8 Zerg in the ro16.
whatevername
Profile Joined June 2012
471 Posts
November 08 2012 20:10 GMT
#66
Can the news posters refrain from writing the new, unpopular names of progamers? There never going to take hold and its an entirely fruitless endeavour. I was confused as shit about what you were describing basically the entire post because you used the wrong names...
teamhozac
Profile Joined April 2012
404 Posts
November 08 2012 20:23 GMT
#67
Zerg infestation! 50% zerg? Thats what the NA GM ladder is lol
Nakwa
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden93 Posts
November 08 2012 20:25 GMT
#68
Welcome to non-terrancraft
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404 Posts
November 08 2012 20:35 GMT
#69
On November 09 2012 05:25 Nakwa wrote:
Welcome to non-terrancraft


Yay broodlord/infestor every f***ing game, very exciting
choqman
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece3 Posts
November 08 2012 21:05 GMT
#70
No "ZERG OP" Yet? Wow!!! You guys have grown!!!
:p
I thing DRG is for a comeback...
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