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October 23rd, 2012 19:23 GMT
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Up/Down Matches: Group B Recap


By: Waxangel
Match results from Live Report Thread by Shellshock1122.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
(T)YoDa <Antiga Shipyard> (Z)DongRaeGu
(P)Genius <Cloud Kingdom> (T)Bomber
(T)YoDa <Ohana> (P)Mini
(P)Genius <Entombed Valley> (Z)DongRaeGu
(T)Bomber <Whirlwind> (P)Mini
(P)Genius <Abyssal City> (T)YoDa
(T)Bomber <Daybreak> (Z)DongRaeGu
(P)Genius <Antiga Shipyard> (P)Mini
(T)Bomber <Entombed Valley> (T)YoDa
(Z)DongRaeGu <Whirlwind> (P)Mini



(Z)DongRaeGu: 3-0
(T)YoDa: 3-1
(P)Genius: 0-3
(T)Bomber: 2-2
(P)Mini: 0-2



DongRaeGu and YoDa advance to Code S!
Genius, Mini, and Bomber fall to Code A


Back in Business

Season 5 Code S players

Season 4 Top Eight (8)
(T)Mvp, (Z)Life, (P)By.Rain
(T)TaeJa, (P)HerO, (Z)Symbol
(Z)Leenock, (T)MarineKing

Qualified through Code A (12)
(P)Creator, (P)Squirtle, (T)Bbyong, (P)Vampire, (Z)Curious, (T)Maru
(T)Polt, (Z)RorO, (T)GuMiho
(Z)Sniper, (P)sHy/sOs, (T)Bogus

Qualified through Up/Downs (4/10)
(Z)HyuN, (T)Hack, (T)YoDa
(Z)DongRaeGu

8 Spots Remaining
Code S Seeds (2, TBD), Up/Down winners (6)
(Z)MVP.DongRaeGu clears Group B in first place with a 3 – 0 record.

It was a rough summer for DongRaeGu, but it finally seems like things are falling back into place for the former GSL champion. On Tuesday night, he defeated (T)LG-IM_YoDa, (P)SlayerS_Genius, and (T)ST_Bomber to take first place in Up/Down match Group B, earning himself a spot in the year's final Code S. Combined with a crushing 4 – 1 victory in the OSL semi-finals, DongRaeGu is looking more like the elite Zerg of old – contrasting with the disappointing player who suffered quick eliminations from Code S and WCS Korea over the last couple of months.

While it's hard to say his opponents played tremendously well, wins are wins. YoDa was the first to fall, unable to capitalize on a good early hellion runby and tapped out to DongRaeGu's midgame muta-ling-baneling attacks on Antiga Shipyard. Bomber was forced to GG out before he could do anything, having his CC-first build countered by a fast pool from DongRaeGu.

DRG's old teammate and Code S finals adversary Genius put up the best fight of the bunch, and had the advantage of starting off the match by foiling an early pool rush from DongRaeGu. However, DongRaeGu played well to recover from his disadvantage, taking economic risks that paid off as Genius played out his own advantage safely. DongRaeGu then went mass mutalisks and put the hurt on Genius, damaging him enough to set-up a successful base-trade victory further down the line.

All in all, it was a good night for DongRaeGu, and he had the added bonus of not exposing any more of his ZvP than necessary ahead his OSL finals meeting with By.Rain. DRG only showed a fast pool build when he went up against Genius, and his 3 – 0 score was enough to excuse him from playing a needless second ZvP against Mini, the other Protoss in the group.

(T)LG-IM_YoDa edges out (T)ST_Bomber for second place.

Unlike some of the convoluted scenarios in six-man groups, the final outcome of Group B simply came down to one last match between YoDa and Bomber. In the course of the night, YoDa and Bomber had taken identical paths – defeating Genius and mini, but falling to DongRaeGu – to put them at a second place deadlock with 2 – 1 scores as they headed into their head to head.

It ended up being decided by a coin-flip – at least if you believe YoDa's post match comments. In a TvT duel on Entombed Valley, YoDa opened with a fast expansion + quick starport, an economically advantageous, defensive start against Bomber's fast banshee. While plenty of other players have come back from such deficits, YoDa said afterward he was so ahead he 'couldn't lose.' By the content of the game, we'll have to take YoDa's word for it, as he simply macroed up, made a mech army, and crushed Bomber with superior numbers.

Thus, YoDa makes it back to Code S after a painful, but surely educational debut season. In Bomber's case, he returns to Code A, to once more be called 'one of the best players not-in-Code S.'

Protoss players (P)SlayerS_Genius and (P)STX_Mini crushed.

So far, the Up/Downs haven't been kind to Protoss fans. Following JYP's elimination yesterday, Mini and Genius were banished to Code A as well, and this time in even more brutal fashion. The mercurial Genius had one of his worst nights in months, getting smashed by Bomber's marine-drop/hellion combo, failing to defend YoDa's two base all-in, and blowing an early lead after holding off DRG's zergling rush.

However, STX's Mini might have had it even worse, getting the opportunity to play just two games (both losses) before his elimination was ensured. While Mini was able to beat Flash with unique phoenix play in Code A, YoDa and Bomber took the GSL newbie to town. YoDa made short work of mini with a proxy barracks all-in, while Bomber took an economic lead with a CC-first build on Whirlwind and stomped mini in a one-sided macro game.

Luckily for Protoss fans, there will be plenty more chances in upcoming days, with players like PartinG, Seed, finale, and MC due to play – not to mention KeSPA players like Sang and Trap.


Up/Down Matches: Group C Preview


By: stuchiu
*Actually Season Five

Round robin, top two advance to Code S.

6. (T)FXOasd

There isn’t that much data about asd as he is a player that has been dropping in and out of Code A after a brief stay in Code S nearly a year ago. He plays in enough tournaments to have some name recognition, but doesn't seem to do well enough to leave any kind of lasting impression outside 'another decent Korean Terran.' His run though Code A to reach the Up/Downs was decent, taking out Mana in the first round. But then he got punked by Maru, where his greedier openers were punished by Maru's more aggressive builds.

As far as we can tell, FXO seem to prefer him in TvT and TvZ snipes in team leagues, so he might feel okay about the group composition of two Terrans, one Zerg, and two Protosses. But even with that in mind, he’s probably the underdog in this group as the other two terrans in this group, Keen and Byun are both very accomplished in TvT. The one Zerg, Shine, looks at his best in TvZ, while PartinG is a PvT monster. There's also Trap, but his win and loss against SuperNoVa and Gumiho don't tell us much.

Even though I place asd at the bottom of the pack, we’ve seen players with less hope get by (Suhosin, I’m looking at you). Also, his games against Maru ended quickly due to build order losses, it's hard to say how he'll match up against Keen and ByuN. If he can take those pivotal matches, asd has a chance of making it through.


5. (T)ByuNPrime

The last season was extremely tough for the Prime Terran as he got knocked out 0 - 4 by OSL finalist Rain in his Code S group. He then got beat by his teammate Creator, leaving Byun with nothing to do for a month until Up/Down matches just because he had the horrible luck of drawing two of the best PvT players in the world consecutively. The games themselves were generally long macro bouts where Byun would play well for a majority of the match, only to be eventually outplayed by Rain and Creator in the later parts of the game.

Byun is definitely strong in the match-up, and has used siege tanks to great effect as part of an alternative composition. Nevertheless, he has been on a downward trend in TvP since Seed took his soul 2 seasons ago and that kind of funk is hard to get out of. Because of that, Byun will have to depend much more on his TvT and TvZ (Both matchups he hasn’t played in a while on GSL) to get past this group, and possibly age some cheese to get past Trap and Parting and get back to Code S.


4. (T)MVP.KeeN

Keen seems to be a man in turmoil. It has been 4 months since Nada ended one of the most abusive one-sided relationships in GSL history by retiring from SC2. With Nada’s retirement, it seemed that the way was clear for the Code S regular Keen as his personal demon had been put to rest.

Instead, Keen’s results have been marred by inconsistency. If Bomber didn’t exist, Keen would be the poster boy for inconsistent Terran performances in the GSL. One season, he’s going on a streak taking down MMA, Nestea, Gumiho and Squirtle. The next, he's losing to Heart, and then Mana and Bomber in Up/Down matches. In the most recent Code A, his run was stopped by the Ro32 officer, Sniper. After that disappointing loss, Keen then went on to beat Life in his GSTL match and nearly beat Curious in the Ace match. Keen struggles to find himself a place in the hierarchy that is GSL, constantly ping-ponging between mediocre and brilliant.

What Keen does have going for him is that he recognizes when he's not the favorite in a match, and is completely willing to cheese to try to get past them. This kind of mentality seems to do well in Up/Down Groups giving Keen a good shot at making it out. In addition to that, Keen’s TvT has generally been strong so I’m giving him a slight edge over his Terran brethren. Beyond that he can have fantastic TvZ, but his TvP is mostly untested, only having one recent game with Inori.


3. (Z)TSL_Shine

In the last Up/Down groups, Shine was able to get Suhosin into Code S. This time around Shine will be trying to do that for himself. Shine has always showed strong TvZ in the GSL, it's what got Suhosin into Code S even when Shine himself had nothing to play for. Added to that is the fact that he has been practicing a lot of ZvP as his last Code A match was against the Terminator. Unfortunately for Shine, terminator just used strong timing attacks to take out Shine in his Code A matches. Still, this is one of the better groups Shine could have landed in as he only has to practice two-matchups, while every other player in this group will be practicing for three. For that reason, I placed Shine as being a bit more favored than Byun and Keen despite being on a similar skill level.


2. (P)STX_Trap

Trap got seeded into Code A on the back of his Proleague performances, and seemed to do very well at first. He first beat the PvP impaired Oz in the first round. He then beat a much more accompolished opponent in Supernova using great defensive scouting, pylon placement and troop movements to stifle Supernova’ style.

However, he then hit a brick wall in Gumiho as Gumiho stuck to his own style using a lot of multi-tasking and aggression to keep Trap on the back heel the entire game before dealing him a killing blow. Overall, he’s probably one of the strongest Kespa players left in the GSL. He’s already shown his PvT to be excellent. His PvZ is a bit unexplored, but he can always rely on a timing attack to kill lone-Zerg Shine, and in a PvP fight, KeSPA's Protosses have shown superior coin flipping technique thus far. If it wasn’t for the fact that non-KeSPA players love to cheese elephants, Trap would be my number one pick to make it out of this group.


1. (P)ST_PartinG

Parting is a player that always does very well in everything he enters, only to fall short of first place like a true KongTale player. In WCS Korea, he got 3rd, WCS Asia, 2nd, and in OSL he reached the quarterfinals. While Parting was always a PvT specialist, his recent tournaments allowed him to show his PvZ and PvP strength. In PvZ, he’s beaten Curious twice and Roro once, thanks to his mastery of the all-powerful immortal all-in. For PvP, he’s been the first player to ever have the pleasure of beating both Korean Hero’s (the Zerg hero is next), and played well at WCS Asia until he hit the wall of By.Rain.

Overall, Parting has been an extremely solid player that rarely dies to cheese and is extremely dangerous to Zerg players in bo3’s, and even more so in best of ones. With three Terrans in this group, PartinG is definitely the favorite. He might not even have to practice for his single PvZ against Shine, since he's performed his immortal all-in so many times that he could pull it off in his sleep. The only real challenge for Parting will be the PvP with Trap which should still be slightly in his favor as he had to PvP his way through most of WCS Asia.




Writers: stuchiu and Waxangel.
Graphics and Art: Meko and shiroiusagi.
Editors: Waxangel.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 23 2012 19:30 GMT
#2
KeeN and PartinG were my predictions, and each day I've had exactly one of my predictions go through.. hm.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 19:32:00
October 23 2012 19:31 GMT
#3
By the 5 before byun you mean byun will get 5 wins right?
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
October 23 2012 19:32 GMT
#4
Considering the predictions so far had the #1 and the lower predicted players in Code S, expect asd or ByuN in Code S with PartinG.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 23 2012 19:36 GMT
#5
Hope ByuN get through And either Shine or PartinG.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
October 23 2012 19:38 GMT
#6
<3 DRG

go Keen and Parting!!
moo...for DRG
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
October 23 2012 19:41 GMT
#7
I hope Keen and Byun make it out.
#TheOneTrueDong
MundisV
Profile Joined July 2012
Lithuania8 Posts
October 23 2012 19:42 GMT
#8
I'll also go with KeeN and PartinG...
Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
October 23 2012 19:49 GMT
#9
KeeN + whoever manages to lose only to KeeN
Just a bad player trying to be a little less bad
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8307 Posts
October 23 2012 20:04 GMT
#10
Shine above Byun and Keen Wax? I see your justification there but I really disagree with it. Terran shall rise again!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Negius
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands290 Posts
October 23 2012 20:08 GMT
#11
Two Terrans or Parting + one Terran would make my day.
Hoping for another good performance from ByuN and Keen and it's always fun to see the solid PartinG.
This is one of the better groups in my opinion, now the games have just to be as good as the names...
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 23 2012 20:10 GMT
#12
wow, underrating byun hard
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
October 23 2012 20:34 GMT
#13
On October 24 2012 04:30 The_Templar wrote:
KeeN and PartinG were my predictions, and each day I've had exactly one of my predictions go through.. hm.

Please be KeeN.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 23 2012 20:34 GMT
#14
Rarely do i agree with your rankings, but this time i do. Although the Top 3 are random for me, no idea who will do it there.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 23 2012 20:50 GMT
#15
Come on KeeN! If he can fucking stabilise his play just a tiny bit he would be an absolute tip top contender.
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
October 23 2012 20:53 GMT
#16
Byun was a semifinalist 2 seasons ago; I'll take him over Keen, Shine, and Trap.
Broodlings
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States157 Posts
October 23 2012 20:53 GMT
#17
How good is this immortal all in? If shine knows Parting will use it, can it really work?
There is no Karont3 icon???? what is this madness?
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Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
October 23 2012 20:57 GMT
#18
Hoping for PartinG/KeeN or PartinG/ByuN
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amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
October 23 2012 21:02 GMT
#19
Shine link leads to bw pro Shine....

Parting and Byun should do it.
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China1350 Posts
October 23 2012 21:05 GMT
#20
NOOOOOOOOOOO GENIUS
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 23 2012 21:08 GMT
#21
Byun as 5th?

Is that a joke?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 23 2012 21:26 GMT
#22
On October 24 2012 05:34 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 04:30 The_Templar wrote:
KeeN and PartinG were my predictions, and each day I've had exactly one of my predictions go through.. hm.

Please be KeeN.

Believe me, I want it to be keen. :D
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 21:29:11
October 23 2012 21:27 GMT
#23
On October 24 2012 04:31 Fusilero wrote:
By the 5 before byun you mean byun will get 5 wins right?


No it's the rating of how well the player will do(the higher the rating the more likely he is to get out of the group with 1 being the best chance of getting out of the group )
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Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
October 23 2012 21:28 GMT
#24
Parting and shine GOGO.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 23 2012 21:31 GMT
#25
C'mon parting and trap. Drg is back, and yoda looked strong, not the players i was rooting for, but good for them.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 21:32:47
October 23 2012 21:31 GMT
#26
Hopefully ByuN and PartinG
also i cant do op today because 6 man groups are too long to finish before class
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 23 2012 21:32 GMT
#27
On October 24 2012 06:27 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 04:31 Fusilero wrote:
By the 5 before byun you mean byun will get 5 wins right?


No it's the rating of how well the player will do(the higher the rating the more likely he is to get out of the group with 1 being the best chance of getting out of the group )

You're of Romanian descent?
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 21:39:01
October 23 2012 21:37 GMT
#28
On October 24 2012 06:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 06:27 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 24 2012 04:31 Fusilero wrote:
By the 5 before byun you mean byun will get 5 wins right?


No it's the rating of how well the player will do(the higher the rating the more likely he is to get out of the group with 1 being the best chance of getting out of the group )

You're of Romanian descent?
haha, i like.

but about the predictions: i never had anything with with byun, to be honest. Parting no.1 was a reasonable guess, though. Trap second is a bit peculiar, although his pvt might pull him through.

edit: last changed to trap. i never get their names right tt
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 23 2012 21:49 GMT
#29
On October 24 2012 06:08 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Byun as 5th?

Is that a joke?


I'm surprisingly relieved. Never underestimate the power of TL preview curse...
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Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
October 23 2012 21:59 GMT
#30
Byun's only problem is his confidence. If he would've more believe in his abilities, he would definately be the top terran in the world. Skillwise there is no other terran better than him. His Decision making, his strategies, his game knowledge and his mechanics are superb. He just needs to play with confidence, then he will win everything!
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
October 23 2012 22:01 GMT
#31
DRG!!

All he needs to do is beat Rain and then the lamestream media will say he is out of his slump
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Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
October 23 2012 22:02 GMT
#32
Nooooo, Bombeeeerrrrr!!

C'mon, Commander Keen!
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
October 23 2012 22:05 GMT
#33
Go Parting! Beat 'em terrans
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
October 23 2012 22:09 GMT
#34
On October 24 2012 06:27 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 04:31 Fusilero wrote:
By the 5 before byun you mean byun will get 5 wins right?


No it's the rating of how well the player will do(the higher the rating the more likely he is to get out of the group with 1 being the best chance of getting out of the group )

I'm pretty sure that he understands that full well He was probably just joking after reading that surprising prediction.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 22:29:24
October 23 2012 22:28 GMT
#35
On October 24 2012 06:27 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 04:31 Fusilero wrote:
By the 5 before byun you mean byun will get 5 wins right?


No it's the rating of how well the player will do(the higher the rating the more likely he is to get out of the group with 1 being the best chance of getting out of the group )

LOLOL


Suprised to see Trap so high and Byun so low.
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
October 23 2012 22:30 GMT
#36
Byun will give us more terrans in code S
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
October 23 2012 22:31 GMT
#37
DRG! Bomber why do you make me so sad ;_;
Not actually sure if I care about this group. ByuN has nice hair, and I guess PartinG is cool
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
October 23 2012 22:34 GMT
#38
On October 24 2012 06:27 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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On October 24 2012 04:31 Fusilero wrote:
By the 5 before byun you mean byun will get 5 wins right?


No it's the rating of how well the player will do(the higher the rating the more likely he is to get out of the group with 1 being the best chance of getting out of the group )


Someone missed the joke
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
October 23 2012 22:34 GMT
#39
Another heart breaking season for Bomber (and for all his fans).
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Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
October 23 2012 22:38 GMT
#40
On October 24 2012 05:53 Broodlings wrote:
How good is this immortal all in? If shine knows Parting will use it, can it really work?

of course it will

It is the singular most powerful strat in RTS gaming (not even joking). I guarantee he will do it vs Shine and I guarantee a PartinG win.

While the late game is scary for Protoss nothing is scarier then this strat.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 23 2012 22:45 GMT
#41
The only one that seems likely to get out of this group is PartinG. After that I disagree with placing Trap second. Keen or Shine or more likely to get out of the group than him.
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 22:47:47
October 23 2012 22:47 GMT
#42
DRG looked very solid.
Genius atm doesnt have the state of mind needed to play starcraft. He thought are obviously of´n smth else

Anyway happy for DRG ´.
NoMicroWin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States688 Posts
October 23 2012 22:48 GMT
#43
parting/parting pls
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ClairvoyanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States758 Posts
October 23 2012 22:54 GMT
#44
Why is ByuN ranked so low? He's such a good player D:

Parting + ByuN to advance !
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
October 23 2012 23:14 GMT
#45
ouch genius.
T_T
that hurts, man
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Broodlings
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States157 Posts
October 23 2012 23:18 GMT
#46
On October 24 2012 07:38 Doubting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 05:53 Broodlings wrote:
How good is this immortal all in? If shine knows Parting will use it, can it really work?

of course it will

It is the singular most powerful strat in RTS gaming (not even joking). I guarantee he will do it vs Shine and I guarantee a PartinG win.

While the late game is scary for Protoss nothing is scarier then this strat.


Wow that surprising.. How do zergs stop it then? And I thought toss late wasn't that scary versus Z lately...
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 23:21:50
October 23 2012 23:21 GMT
#47
On October 24 2012 08:18 Broodlings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:38 Doubting wrote:
On October 24 2012 05:53 Broodlings wrote:
How good is this immortal all in? If shine knows Parting will use it, can it really work?

of course it will

It is the singular most powerful strat in RTS gaming (not even joking). I guarantee he will do it vs Shine and I guarantee a PartinG win.

While the late game is scary for Protoss nothing is scarier then this strat.


Wow that surprising.. How do zergs stop it then? And I thought toss late wasn't that scary versus Z lately...

doubting is exaggerating; it is a hard strat to stop but only works on certain maps, not hard to blind counter and is nowhere near as dominating as 1-1-1 vs protoss in the past
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xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
October 23 2012 23:35 GMT
#48
this group looks way crazy actually...

first off Shine and parting are both really good, and then we have KEEN, BYUN _and_ ASD?? Oh snap.

all that i can say is trap will win FOR SURE!!! KESPAAAAAAAAAA fighting.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 23 2012 23:40 GMT
#49
Want Shine to win.

Only group where I don't think there is a clear favorite. Parting is a PvT beast, but has been flippy floppy lately.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
October 23 2012 23:50 GMT
#50
On October 24 2012 08:40 Fionn wrote:
Want Shine to win.

Only group where I don't think there is a clear favorite. Parting is a PvT beast, but has been flippy floppy lately.

Same here. Shine is looking strong.
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Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
October 23 2012 23:57 GMT
#51
On October 24 2012 08:18 Broodlings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:38 Doubting wrote:
On October 24 2012 05:53 Broodlings wrote:
How good is this immortal all in? If shine knows Parting will use it, can it really work?

of course it will

It is the singular most powerful strat in RTS gaming (not even joking). I guarantee he will do it vs Shine and I guarantee a PartinG win.

While the late game is scary for Protoss nothing is scarier then this strat.


Wow that surprising.. How do zergs stop it then? And I thought toss late wasn't that scary versus Z lately...

No no u got me wrong, Zerg is favoured late game right now but the reason Toss are still dominating is the immortal sentry all in. IMO the Toss has to fuck it up or they basically just win (especially on Protoss Kingdom and Prohana)
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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 24 2012 00:05 GMT
#52
TRAP!!! Watching these games for sure!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 24 2012 00:06 GMT
#53
On October 24 2012 08:35 xmungam wrote:
this group looks way crazy actually...

first off Shine and parting are both really good, and then we have KEEN, BYUN _and_ ASD?? Oh snap.

all that i can say is trap will win FOR SURE!!! KESPAAAAAAAAAA fighting.


Kespa fighting indeed.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
October 24 2012 00:22 GMT
#54
Parting and Byun. I have no doubts.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
October 24 2012 00:23 GMT
#55
Pretty happy to see DRG back on track. He's a true beast.
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Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
October 24 2012 00:50 GMT
#56
Soooo Bomber is in Code A again? :/
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
October 24 2012 00:59 GMT
#57
KeeN and PartinG
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 24 2012 01:28 GMT
#58
On October 24 2012 08:40 Fionn wrote:
Want Shine to win.

Only group where I don't think there is a clear favorite. Parting is a PvT beast, but has been flippy floppy lately.


didn't Parting just take second at WCS asia?

not so flippy floppy i think ;o
DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
October 24 2012 01:33 GMT
#59
On October 24 2012 05:53 Broodlings wrote:
How good is this immortal all in? If shine knows Parting will use it, can it really work?


You must not play ZvP
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 24 2012 01:44 GMT
#60
On October 24 2012 10:28 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 08:40 Fionn wrote:
Want Shine to win.

Only group where I don't think there is a clear favorite. Parting is a PvT beast, but has been flippy floppy lately.


didn't Parting just take second at WCS asia?

not so flippy floppy i think ;o

while also falling out of ro32 gsl, i think that's flippy floppy (ie inconsistent)
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Atrbyg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States513 Posts
October 24 2012 01:47 GMT
#61
Hoping Byun can go through.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 24 2012 01:50 GMT
#62
On October 24 2012 10:44 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 10:28 Dodgin wrote:
On October 24 2012 08:40 Fionn wrote:
Want Shine to win.

Only group where I don't think there is a clear favorite. Parting is a PvT beast, but has been flippy floppy lately.


didn't Parting just take second at WCS asia?

not so flippy floppy i think ;o

while also falling out of ro32 gsl, i think that's flippy floppy (ie inconsistent)


that was almost 2 months ago though
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 24 2012 01:56 GMT
#63
On October 24 2012 10:50 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 10:44 opterown wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:28 Dodgin wrote:
On October 24 2012 08:40 Fionn wrote:
Want Shine to win.

Only group where I don't think there is a clear favorite. Parting is a PvT beast, but has been flippy floppy lately.


didn't Parting just take second at WCS asia?

not so flippy floppy i think ;o

while also falling out of ro32 gsl, i think that's flippy floppy (ie inconsistent)


that was almost 2 months ago though

he lost to vampire, man :o
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 24 2012 01:58 GMT
#64
maybe vampire is the next protoss bonjwa

anyway i don't like labeling every player who loses early in gsl sometimes " inconsistent " because that would make every player except mvp inconsistent
iiFrankDii
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2 Posts
October 24 2012 02:03 GMT
#65
"DongRaeGu's back in business" oh so he isn't going baneling/muta n going winfestor/gglord? cool story

User was warned for this post
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 02:20:17
October 24 2012 02:19 GMT
#66
On October 24 2012 10:56 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 10:50 Dodgin wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:44 opterown wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:28 Dodgin wrote:
On October 24 2012 08:40 Fionn wrote:
Want Shine to win.

Only group where I don't think there is a clear favorite. Parting is a PvT beast, but has been flippy floppy lately.


didn't Parting just take second at WCS asia?

not so flippy floppy i think ;o

while also falling out of ro32 gsl, i think that's flippy floppy (ie inconsistent)


that was almost 2 months ago though

he lost to vampire, man :o

I'd say 4 straight seasons of Code S (including a quarterfinals and semifinals), quarterfinals at OSL, 3rd at WCG, 3rd at WCS Korea, and 2nd at WCS Asia is pretty consistent. And regardless of overall performances, Parting v T (which is what is mostly relevant here) is consistently amazing.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 24 2012 02:19 GMT
#67
Byun/Parting
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 24 2012 02:27 GMT
#68
On October 24 2012 11:19 LockeTazeline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 10:56 opterown wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:50 Dodgin wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:44 opterown wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:28 Dodgin wrote:
On October 24 2012 08:40 Fionn wrote:
Want Shine to win.

Only group where I don't think there is a clear favorite. Parting is a PvT beast, but has been flippy floppy lately.


didn't Parting just take second at WCS asia?

not so flippy floppy i think ;o

while also falling out of ro32 gsl, i think that's flippy floppy (ie inconsistent)


that was almost 2 months ago though

he lost to vampire, man :o

I'd say 4 straight seasons of Code S (including a quarterfinals and semifinals), quarterfinals at OSL, 3rd at WCG, 3rd at WCS Korea, and 2nd at WCS Asia is pretty consistent. And regardless of overall performances, Parting v T (which is what is mostly relevant here) is consistently amazing.

marineking has pretty similar, if not better performances to that this year and many would say he's inconsistent too, haha
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 24 2012 02:39 GMT
#69
who calls mkp inconsistent? he's one of the most consistent players out there, always in code s, won multiple foreign tournaments this year and placed top 3 in multiple others, also in the top 5 of earnings this year.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 04:23:45
October 24 2012 03:05 GMT
#70
On October 24 2012 11:39 Dodgin wrote:
who calls mkp inconsistent? he's one of the most consistent players out there, always in code s, won multiple foreign tournaments this year and placed top 3 in multiple others, also in the top 5 of earnings this year.

well, i did find this, haha
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=3401&topic_id=363243
there's probably a few more around the forums, but there are quite a few who'd consider mkp inconsistent (even this disparity between his early 2012 gsl and non-gsl performance is a bit puzzling)
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
October 24 2012 03:27 GMT
#71
Consistency is a pretty subjective topic I guess (unless the player is Bomber)

On October 24 2012 12:05 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:39 Dodgin wrote:
who calls mkp inconsistent? he's one of the most consistent players out there, always in code s, won multiple foreign tournaments this year and placed top 3 in multiple others, also in the top 5 of earnings this year.

well, i did find this, haha
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=3401&topic_id=363243
there's probably a few more around the forums, but there are quite a few who'd consider mkp inconsitent (even this disparity between his early 2012 gsl and non-gsl performance is a bit puzzling)


So MKP is consistent but not consistent consistently? Which would make him inconsistently consistent.
XinAn
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
129 Posts
October 24 2012 04:23 GMT
#72
Please PartinG work your magic .:.<(^_^<)

I love watching Parting v T~
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 24 2012 06:03 GMT
#73
im keen to see a shine of brilliance from parting and byun.
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 24 2012 06:24 GMT
#74
On October 24 2012 06:59 TeeTS wrote:
Byun's only problem is his confidence. If he would've more believe in his abilities, he would definately be the top terran in the world. Skillwise there is no other terran better than him. His Decision making, his strategies, his game knowledge and his mechanics are superb. He just needs to play with confidence, then he will win everything!


even as a byun fan, ur post makes absolutely shit sense.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 24 2012 06:29 GMT
#75
On October 24 2012 15:24 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 06:59 TeeTS wrote:
Byun's only problem is his confidence. If he would've more believe in his abilities, he would definately be the top terran in the world. Skillwise there is no other terran better than him. His Decision making, his strategies, his game knowledge and his mechanics are superb. He just needs to play with confidence, then he will win everything!


even as a byun fan, ur post makes absolutely shit sense.

what? multiple toplevel pros have long credited byun as one of the best terrans to play this game.
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ShinigamiFlameHaze
Profile Joined October 2012
United States33 Posts
October 24 2012 06:35 GMT
#76
Let's go, Keen and Parting!
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 24 2012 06:57 GMT
#77
On October 24 2012 15:29 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 15:24 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 24 2012 06:59 TeeTS wrote:
Byun's only problem is his confidence. If he would've more believe in his abilities, he would definately be the top terran in the world. Skillwise there is no other terran better than him. His Decision making, his strategies, his game knowledge and his mechanics are superb. He just needs to play with confidence, then he will win everything!


even as a byun fan, ur post makes absolutely shit sense.

what? multiple toplevel pros have long credited byun as one of the best terrans to play this game.


yeah but he credited byun as the best, and even you and me know how good mvp and taeja is, he even said that skillwise byun is unmatched by other terrans.
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rw_Wedge
Profile Joined October 2012
United States53 Posts
October 24 2012 07:37 GMT
#78
I think that Keen and Trap will get out of the group.
Keen plays asd and Shine in his first two matches. TvZ is his best match-up and asd is probably the weakest player in the group, so I think that Keen will get on a role and qualify.
Trap beat a Code S Ro.16 level player in Supernova and lost to a Ro.32 level player in GuMiho, so I think he'll be able to beat two of the three Terrans in the group. That just leaves Shine (who lost last round to a Trap-equivalent Protoss in Terminator) and Parting (all the kespa players seem really good at PvP).
droken
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden126 Posts
October 24 2012 07:51 GMT
#79
On October 24 2012 06:59 TeeTS wrote:
Byun's only problem is his confidence. If he would've more believe in his abilities, he would definately be the top terran in the world. Skillwise there is no other terran better than him. His Decision making, his strategies, his game knowledge and his mechanics are superb. He just needs to play with confidence, then he will win everything!


Is this a joke? TaeJa, MVP..? Obviously he has a lot better decision making, strategies, game knowledge and mechanics than the 4-time GSL champion and.. well TaeJa.

It feels like the furthest Byun has got in any tournament is losing to Seed in the Season 3 GSL semis. I dunno but I'd pick Parting over Byun any day.
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 24 2012 08:05 GMT
#80
On October 24 2012 16:51 droken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 06:59 TeeTS wrote:
Byun's only problem is his confidence. If he would've more believe in his abilities, he would definately be the top terran in the world. Skillwise there is no other terran better than him. His Decision making, his strategies, his game knowledge and his mechanics are superb. He just needs to play with confidence, then he will win everything!


Is this a joke? TaeJa, MVP..? Obviously he has a lot better decision making, strategies, game knowledge and mechanics than the 4-time GSL champion and.. well TaeJa.

It feels like the furthest Byun has got in any tournament is losing to Seed in the Season 3 GSL semis. I dunno but I'd pick Parting over Byun any day.


Yes, his best result is losing 2-3 to the eventual GSL champion just a season ago. What has parting done lately again?
Desiire
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia191 Posts
October 24 2012 08:16 GMT
#81
Good on you YoDa! Get back into Code S! I still believe in the words MVP said about you !

And hopefully PartinG can make it through.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 24 2012 08:18 GMT
#82
On October 24 2012 17:05 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 16:51 droken wrote:
On October 24 2012 06:59 TeeTS wrote:
Byun's only problem is his confidence. If he would've more believe in his abilities, he would definately be the top terran in the world. Skillwise there is no other terran better than him. His Decision making, his strategies, his game knowledge and his mechanics are superb. He just needs to play with confidence, then he will win everything!


Is this a joke? TaeJa, MVP..? Obviously he has a lot better decision making, strategies, game knowledge and mechanics than the 4-time GSL champion and.. well TaeJa.

It feels like the furthest Byun has got in any tournament is losing to Seed in the Season 3 GSL semis. I dunno but I'd pick Parting over Byun any day.


Yes, his best result is losing 2-3 to the eventual GSL champion just a season ago. What has parting done lately again?


must resist urge to fall for bait
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
October 24 2012 09:28 GMT
#83
The apostrophe in the title does not make sense. Cool write-up tho!
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Bupalumpa
Profile Joined October 2012
Venezuela24 Posts
October 24 2012 09:59 GMT
#84
I am really digging this whole “since Seed took his soul” joke. Someone with skills should make a fan art of IM.Seed as the “SOULTAKER” hehe.
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mantadoerr
Profile Joined October 2012
2 Posts
October 24 2012 15:54 GMT
#85
Great games, great article. On another note, isnt it spelled "n00b"? Its kewl and all to spell newb like this, but most of the time i see it spelled "newb" its actually a n00b writing it, and I know any writers here are not n00bs
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
October 24 2012 17:21 GMT
#86
Man...huge bummer about Genius. Such a bad time to go to SlayerS.

I hope that Parting can get some wins for Aiur.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 24 2012 18:43 GMT
#87
Byun and Parting to advance!

Please...?
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
October 24 2012 19:54 GMT
#88
On October 24 2012 18:59 Bupalumpa wrote:
I am really digging this whole “since Seed took his soul” joke. Someone with skills should make a fan art of IM.Seed as the “SOULTAKER” hehe.


If Seed is the soultaker, then Parting is the soulmaker.
JackReacher
Profile Joined September 2012
United States197 Posts
October 24 2012 20:21 GMT
#89
PartinG has to make it out of this group! He should get 3 wins on the back of his PvT, even against Keen, and his PvP is stronger than ever, so he should beat trap. Shine might be a problem, but Parting is the better player. He'll probably end up 4-1, realistically. Keen or Trap will probably make it through behind him.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 24 2012 21:46 GMT
#90
On October 25 2012 05:21 JackReacher wrote:
PartinG has to make it out of this group! He should get 3 wins on the back of his PvT, even against Keen, and his PvP is stronger than ever, so he should beat trap. Shine might be a problem, but Parting is the better player. He'll probably end up 4-1, realistically. Keen or Trap will probably make it through behind him.

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