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101.blubb
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany38 Posts
October 06 2012 09:52 GMT
#41
On October 06 2012 17:44 mak1rby wrote:
Nice writing.
Expecting Rain vs Mvp in the finals..


Wait... what?
sunless
Profile Joined November 2011
62 Posts
October 06 2012 10:07 GMT
#42
Somehow hoping and expecting Rain to dismantle MVP but would not mind an epic semi after so many one-sided games in the Ro8. Rain has been showing so neat play so far and MVP TvP, well, I am not sure if it is enough to beat Rain. Do not expect any crazy cheeses to work against Rain, do not expect MVP to get good late game engagement against Rain. So what, out multi-task Rain? After seeing the Ro16 (Rain-Teaja, Rain-Polt) that seems pretty hard, but would give us pretty fun games. Out macro him. Would be interesting to see. Sneaky mid-game timing (MVP has 4 days left to be really creative). Anyway Polt took a map, MVP can probably take a map as well. If it is the first one, then things might get interesting.

The Life-MKP games I thought were kind of fun: making MKP taste his own medicine and tilt completely. But now I guess Teaja now has pretty clear expectations on what Life will try and now starts the infinite hierarchy of high-order beliefs: if Teaja expects that kind of aggression to come at him should he play super solid? But then Life should go for a super early third hatch? Hope we does not end up with heavy meta-gaming and blind countering, that would make a sad semi. I hope anyway the game are less frustrating to watch than the Teaja-Leenock games. (That double roach warren in range of a unique scan, why leenock, why?)

As for the finals Teaja-Rain is probably the final I hope for. An extended rematch after these two games in the Ro16.

Rain-Life, somehow I feel I know the result of that game already, but h the kid has been showing some skills maybe that would give us the epic finals we are waiting for. Different match-up, but if Rain is the new MVP and Life is the new Leenock, well, I am watching that one.

As for the two finals with MVP, well either match-up have a nice story behind them. Maybe MVP/Life could have this MVP/Leenock flavor to it. Several zergs, one mind. Does not matter who takes MVP out.
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ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 13:53:35
October 06 2012 13:51 GMT
#43
On October 06 2012 19:07 sunless wrote:
Somehow hoping and expecting Rain to dismantle MVP but would not mind an epic semi after so many one-sided games in the Ro8. Rain has been showing so neat play so far and MVP TvP, well, I am not sure if it is enough to beat Rain. Do not expect any crazy cheeses to work against Rain, do not expect MVP to get good late game engagement against Rain. So what, out multi-task Rain? After seeing the Ro16 (Rain-Teaja, Rain-Polt) that seems pretty hard, but would give us pretty fun games. Out macro him. Would be interesting to see. Sneaky mid-game timing (MVP has 4 days left to be really creative). Anyway Polt took a map, MVP can probably take a map as well. If it is the first one, then things might get interesting.

The Life-MKP games I thought were kind of fun: making MKP taste his own medicine and tilt completely. But now I guess Teaja now has pretty clear expectations on what Life will try and now starts the infinite hierarchy of high-order beliefs: if Teaja expects that kind of aggression to come at him should he play super solid? But then Life should go for a super early third hatch? Hope we does not end up with heavy meta-gaming and blind countering, that would make a sad semi. I hope anyway the game are less frustrating to watch than the Teaja-Leenock games. (That double roach warren in range of a unique scan, why leenock, why?)

As for the finals Teaja-Rain is probably the final I hope for. An extended rematch after these two games in the Ro16.

Rain-Life, somehow I feel I know the result of that game already, but h the kid has been showing some skills maybe that would give us the epic finals we are waiting for. Different match-up, but if Rain is the new MVP and Life is the new Leenock, well, I am watching that one.

As for the two finals with MVP, well either match-up have a nice story behind them. Maybe MVP/Life could have this MVP/Leenock flavor to it. Several zergs, one mind. Does not matter who takes MVP out.

Replace Rain with Parting/Squirtle(well except the matches in the parentheses).One thing that MVP does good is winning it's rly hard to predict this one
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
October 06 2012 13:55 GMT
#44
On October 06 2012 12:15 MateShade wrote:
Don't compare Stephano to Korean zergs. Sure he 'might' be 'almost' as good but until he goes to Korea and proves it he's not even in the top 10


Im in the same boat. If Stephano declines his 5 billionth Code S invitation in the next GSL which is the shortest in GSL history of only a mere 1 month with the quarterfinals & finals being in LA, then dont expect him to participate at all.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
FuzZyLogic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States141 Posts
October 06 2012 19:24 GMT
#45
On October 06 2012 06:28 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:53 renaissanceMAN wrote:
MKP tilted so hard

if MKP had the nerves/personality of rain, he'd be unstoppable


No, he wouldn't. He doesn't have Rain's mechanics, all MKP has is micro.


Are you fucking kidding me dude? SC2 mechanics are NOTHING for any korean progamer, mkp is very aggressive that doesn't mean he can't play a macro game.. You may mean decision making but mastering protoss mechanics isn't exactly impressive.
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
October 06 2012 20:36 GMT
#46
On October 06 2012 06:38 DMZ wrote:
Really want to see a TvT in MVP vs Taeja. The last of the old guard of SC2 vs the new prodigy.


So you mean MVP vs Life

15 year old Bonjwa?
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
October 06 2012 23:13 GMT
#47
On October 06 2012 06:38 tuho12345 wrote:
Even if Life beat Taeja, I doubt he could take out MVP in the final. Cuz MVP is gonna win this whole shit. Then he become the true SC 2 Bonjwa and retire happily until HOTS out.

Except Taeja has absolutely crushed MVP every single time he has played him in GSL. So if they play in the final it would be no different
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 07 2012 06:00 GMT
#48
On October 06 2012 09:00 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 06:28 Dionyseus wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:53 renaissanceMAN wrote:
MKP tilted so hard

if MKP had the nerves/personality of rain, he'd be unstoppable


No, he wouldn't. He doesn't have Rain's mechanics, all MKP has is micro.


proof that as protoss all you need is mechanics?

MKP's mechanics are solid, but rain definitely has better nerves, which imo leads to better decision making.

MKP is emotional, worst thing about getting emotional is you start making emotional decisions based on your feelings and not calculating.


It's alright to be a fan here but your not really thinking this through to much.

People all act different, who says Rain is not nerveus but hides it well ?
Plenty of nerveus people can make great discisions, if that was true on what you say MKP could not even do a proper 2rax.
Nerves alone don't make bad decision making.

MKP might be as good as he is just becuase he is very emotional, if he lost his emotions he might get worse instead.

Also i believe MVP has what it takes to take Rain down, more so then Life or Taeja has. IF Rain beats MVP he's got that title in the bag.

MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 07 2012 09:26 GMT
#49
Hoping for a Life vs MVP finals. MVP really shouldn't be able to beat Rain, but then again he probably shouldn't have beaten Squirtle or Parting in Season 2, so who the fuck knows?

Thanks for the write up btw Wax
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
October 07 2012 11:46 GMT
#50
On October 06 2012 05:53 renaissanceMAN wrote:
MKP tilted so hard

if MKP had the nerves/personality of rain, he'd be unstoppable



Yep, and if he'd have the mind of Rain and perhaps been Rain, he would be somewhat of a god.
maru G5L pls
Freezd
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States139 Posts
October 07 2012 16:56 GMT
#51
MKP nooooooooo I wish he was still winning
"I can't help it if I seem homophobic when the only gay people I know have pink highlights, wear hundreds of colorful bracelets and live at the local arcade playing DDR." - Youngminii
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
October 07 2012 17:57 GMT
#52
Just my five cents into the whole discussion.
Looks like we all agree that Rain is playing godly atm.

Life vs Taeja
Until yesterday I thougt life to be the favourite. But after Life in GSTL was outpalyed by Keen - not so sure anymore. Lets hope he learned smth from this

Anyway hoping Rain vs Life. Just because they deserved it this season the most
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
October 07 2012 21:15 GMT
#53
Life wins GSL... first royal roader.

Rain wins GSL... royal roader, Kespa victory in GSL.

TaeJa wins GSL... first foreign team victory in GSL, Liquid victory, best Terran in the world.

Mvp wins GSL... a legend forever, a legacy unmatched in StarCraft 2.
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NMxSardines
Profile Joined February 2012
77 Posts
October 08 2012 06:13 GMT
#54
Aw, no mention of Life's spectacular manners throughout all of his games against MKP.


On October 08 2012 06:15 Entirety wrote:
Life wins GSL... first royal roader.

Rain wins GSL... royal roader, Kespa victory in GSL.

TaeJa wins GSL... first foreign team victory in GSL, Liquid victory, best Terran in the world.

Mvp wins GSL... a legend forever, a legacy unmatched in StarCraft 2.



You're have summarized pretty well exactly how interesting this season of GSL will be.
MrF
Profile Joined October 2011
United States320 Posts
October 08 2012 16:33 GMT
#55
On October 06 2012 12:15 MateShade wrote:
Don't compare Stephano to Korean zergs. Sure he 'might' be 'almost' as good but until he goes to Korea and proves it he's not even in the top 10

I don't really mind the statement about Stephano, its a little bold but whatever kid is a beast and im not even on the bandwagon I am just speaking from results, but saying players like Vortix and even Scarlett are in the running for best zerg in the world is a bit much. Granted I haven't seen a lot of Scarlett but doesn't that kinda make my point. Vortix is a phenomenal player but I don't see him doing much better than most foreigners if put in the GSL.
HunterXHunter is awesome
GGodSlayer
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada13 Posts
October 08 2012 18:58 GMT
#56
On October 06 2012 12:15 MateShade wrote:
Don't compare Stephano to Korean zergs. Sure he 'might' be 'almost' as good but until he goes to Korea and proves it he's not even in the top 10


Stephano might not have gone to Korea to train that much yet but he is still an amazing Zerg when you hear all the Koreans who have played Stephano in foreign tournaments talk about him you start to get the impression that he is as good as alot of the korean zergs. A couple of the korean protoss and terrans say that he is just as good as the korean Zergs that they play against.... Alot of pros have recently said that they feel Zerg skill level outside of korea is very close to zerg skill level in korea.... Obviously this is all opinion based and yours is that Stephano isnt that good. Just look at his Team Liquid stats in the TLPD outside of korea he has the highest win rate of any player in professional matches obviously the guy is really good...
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 21:05:44
October 09 2012 21:05 GMT
#57
its a hot potato all right. one that really burns

edit: it seems a lot less funny after i actually said it
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