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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1414 Posts
September 28 2012 15:46 GMT
#81
On September 28 2012 22:35 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 22:13 Ragnarork wrote:
I just want Taeja to win this, and finally get the "Best player in the world" title. (I feel having a GSL title gives a lot of credit to this title, and this season's especially....)

what if he isn't the best player in the world?

at the moment, in sc2, he pretty much is
mhael
Profile Joined January 2012
United States102 Posts
September 28 2012 15:52 GMT
#82
Ro of 8 is:
Rain > Hero
MVP > Symbol
Leenock > Taeja
Life > MKP

Ro of 4 is:
Rain > MVP (as sad as I am to say it b/c MVP is my favorite player, with Rain becoming my favorite protoss - he is hands down the best stormer on the planet)
Life > Leenock

Finals:
Life > Rain (I hope Rain beats Life - however - with the slow moving ball of death with spines, infestor and brood lord - what can beat that? I cannot yet think how a toss can overcome that and break it. Toss air is SO weak its embarrassing to even built carriers or void rays. Even with a perfect unit composition the fungals, neural on mother ship, infested terran and brood lords raining hell down - that combo is, as of right now, impossible for protoss to beat. You can play well all game like Hero did vs Leenock and still lose to that combo in the end. As I said, I'll be rooting for Rain or MVP the whole way.
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
September 28 2012 15:54 GMT
#83
On September 29 2012 00:46 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 22:35 HaXXspetten wrote:
On September 28 2012 22:13 Ragnarork wrote:
I just want Taeja to win this, and finally get the "Best player in the world" title. (I feel having a GSL title gives a lot of credit to this title, and this season's especially....)

what if he isn't the best player in the world?

at the moment, in sc2, he pretty much is

Not really. It's still to early tell since we havent seen enough of him but still, I think by.Rain very well could be that. From what I've seen from Taeja he seems to be very weak against mid/late-game harass in TvP. I'm not sure if it's the multitasking or something else, but it is something.

Anyway... imo there is no clear contender for the title of the best sc2 player atm.
Sacrilege
Profile Joined December 2011
United States199 Posts
September 28 2012 16:03 GMT
#84
I think Life will defenitly roll right over MKP. As for HerO vs. Rain, I can't really say. I'm cheering for HerO though! Great write up.
Imperative Gaming Owner | Grandmaster Zerg | https://twitter.com/SacrilegeSC2 | https://www.twitch.tv/shadowbites
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 16:13:22
September 28 2012 16:11 GMT
#85
Sad to see Heart fallout, it's so refreshing to see his ultra aggressive style. With him playing you know you don't need to wait 10 minutes before things heat up.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
September 28 2012 16:29 GMT
#86
I really wish a Protoss couldn't lose an entire game based on neural parasite.. I can't wait for HOTS to fix that... It seems like Zergs are getting better at focusing on that too
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
September 28 2012 17:27 GMT
#87
On September 29 2012 01:29 mrtomjones wrote:
I really wish a Protoss couldn't lose an entire game based on neural parasite.. I can't wait for HOTS to fix that... It seems like Zergs are getting better at focusing on that too

I wish Zergs couldn't lose an entire game based on vortex.
PvZ is lategame is quite frankly broken from both sides.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
September 28 2012 19:51 GMT
#88
On September 29 2012 00:54 Aando wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 00:46 Tanzklaue wrote:
On September 28 2012 22:35 HaXXspetten wrote:
On September 28 2012 22:13 Ragnarork wrote:
I just want Taeja to win this, and finally get the "Best player in the world" title. (I feel having a GSL title gives a lot of credit to this title, and this season's especially....)

what if he isn't the best player in the world?

at the moment, in sc2, he pretty much is

Not really.


Taeja is really good, and certainly among the current top line with Squirtle, Seed, Symbol, Leenock, Byun et cetera, I don't think he's the best.

Yes, he crushed a lot of mostly foreign tournaments lately, and his all-kills against e.g. IM was impressive, but the competition for the "best player" title is just too ridiculous, especially with the godly Rain descending from the heavens of BW to stomp some SC2. Let him win at least one GSL before deciding, okay?
maru G5L pls
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 28 2012 19:52 GMT
#89
On September 29 2012 00:52 mhael wrote:
Ro of 8 is:
Rain > Hero
MVP > Symbol
Leenock > Taeja
Life > MKP

Ro of 4 is:
Rain > MVP (as sad as I am to say it b/c MVP is my favorite player, with Rain becoming my favorite protoss - he is hands down the best stormer on the planet)
Life > Leenock

Finals:
Life > Rain (I hope Rain beats Life - however - with the slow moving ball of death with spines, infestor and brood lord - what can beat that? I cannot yet think how a toss can overcome that and break it. Toss air is SO weak its embarrassing to even built carriers or void rays. Even with a perfect unit composition the fungals, neural on mother ship, infested terran and brood lords raining hell down - that combo is, as of right now, impossible for protoss to beat. You can play well all game like Hero did vs Leenock and still lose to that combo in the end. As I said, I'll be rooting for Rain or MVP the whole way.

Look at the Korean win rate in ZvP then say that again -_-
Life: The New Champion!!
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 28 2012 19:56 GMT
#90
On September 29 2012 01:29 mrtomjones wrote:
I really wish a Protoss couldn't lose an entire game based on neural parasite.. I can't wait for HOTS to fix that... It seems like Zergs are getting better at focusing on that too

These posts make me laugh. For the longest time Zergs complained the same thing about vortex (to no recognition from toss players) and now that it is happening to toss players it is quite funny ^^.
Life: The New Champion!!
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
September 28 2012 20:14 GMT
#91
On September 29 2012 04:56 Doubting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 01:29 mrtomjones wrote:
I really wish a Protoss couldn't lose an entire game based on neural parasite.. I can't wait for HOTS to fix that... It seems like Zergs are getting better at focusing on that too

These posts make me laugh. For the longest time Zergs complained the same thing about vortex (to no recognition from toss players) and now that it is happening to toss players it is quite funny ^^.


I can't but agree. The mothership is not a fun unit. I think it's bad to make one unit so very important - it's the same with colossus, I think. They should be smaller, do less damage and be cheaper.
maru G5L pls
Interstellar
Profile Joined May 2012
Mexico67 Posts
September 28 2012 20:51 GMT
#92
If Taeja wins this GSL he should definitely be considered one, if not, the best SC2 player of 2012. With so many great top level players floating around, he's definitely been the most consistent. Then again with players like Mvp, Life, Leenock and now Rain, it will be hard to take this GSL.
El que es chingon, es chingon.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
September 28 2012 21:47 GMT
#93
It's funny how Mvp is still not making these "best SC2 players in the world lists" dispite being by far the most consistant player at winning absolutely everything dispite his wrist injuries. He won season 2, got RO16, and is now in RO8 and he is still the underdog against absolutely everyone for whatever reason I'll never understand.

I think Mvp could win the next 2 GSLs and people still wouldn't predict him to advance.

I personally think it's between Mvp, Rain, and Life

Taeja doesn't have a chance in hell of beating Mvp or Rain in a BO7 in the finals IMO, and he'll be lucky to even advance pass Life (I think that's a possibility, but again I don't think he has a chance of doing that + winning the finals, just won't happen period)
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erdemcan
Profile Joined August 2012
Turkey8 Posts
September 28 2012 22:09 GMT
#94
stephano to win it
Interstellar
Profile Joined May 2012
Mexico67 Posts
September 29 2012 00:37 GMT
#95
I think people disregard MVP as "the best" because he's in a class all by himself. No one else holds 4 GSL titles as well as multiple 1st place finishes across many tournaments. Maybe we should say "best SC2 player (besides the IM GSL champs)". Better.
El que es chingon, es chingon.
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 01:39:05
September 29 2012 01:38 GMT
#96
Nice article! ^^

Predictions...

Rain 3-1 HerO
Symbol 3-2 Mvp
Leenock 3-2 TaeJa
Life 3-0 MKP

Rain 3-1 Symbol
Life 3-0 Leenock

Life 4-3 Rain

Gogo! : )
hmm... let's think about it
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
September 29 2012 02:54 GMT
#97
On September 29 2012 02:27 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 01:29 mrtomjones wrote:
I really wish a Protoss couldn't lose an entire game based on neural parasite.. I can't wait for HOTS to fix that... It seems like Zergs are getting better at focusing on that too

I wish Zergs couldn't lose an entire game based on vortex.
PvZ is lategame is quite frankly broken from both sides.

meh for a Pro it is easier to hit a neural than it is to split broods up a bit and not lose a whole army to a vortex but I do think it is dumb on both sides. I just have a Protoss bias
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
September 29 2012 04:12 GMT
#98
On September 29 2012 11:54 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 02:27 Assirra wrote:
On September 29 2012 01:29 mrtomjones wrote:
I really wish a Protoss couldn't lose an entire game based on neural parasite.. I can't wait for HOTS to fix that... It seems like Zergs are getting better at focusing on that too

I wish Zergs couldn't lose an entire game based on vortex.
PvZ is lategame is quite frankly broken from both sides.

meh for a Pro it is easier to hit a neural than it is to split broods up a bit and not lose a whole army to a vortex but I do think it is dumb on both sides. I just have a Protoss bias

as a terran player i never knew why zergs don't just split up their brood lords more. for kespa zergs my guess is that late game zerg in ZvP is nothing like late game zerg in BW, but as for non-kespa zergs i'm not sure. I think part of it may be that if u spread them out too much then they become less effective and can be picked off, which is true to some extent, but when they just don't split them at all when a mothership is near im just comfused
hmm... let's think about it
Frostlone
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia75 Posts
September 29 2012 10:02 GMT
#99
Here are my hopes for Finals...
HerO v Taeja (Oh come on what did you expect... gogo Team Liquid finals)
Rain v Life (Royal Roaders FTW!!! Plus these two are the ones going in with the most hype)
MKP v MVP (I would only like this if MKP wins 4-3 in one of the most epic finals imaginable
Leenock v Taeja (epicness producing epicness to create epicness!!!)

Although these are my top picks in terms of games any finals this season would be epic!
gogo Liquid! gogo HerO!
Sassback
Profile Joined September 2012
United States718 Posts
September 29 2012 17:10 GMT
#100
I'm so worried for leenock, i think if he can slip by taeja that he will make it to the finals! Go leenocktopus!
Every night I pray for TL to give me my SAD Boys flair, and every morning I wake up disappointed.
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