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[Up/Down] Group B Recap

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[Up/Down] Group B Recap

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August 29th, 2012 02:12 GMT
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Up Down Matches: Group B Recap


By: Waxangel
Due to typhoon Bolaven, Up/Down matches have been rescheduled so that there are no games on August 29th. Details at Gomtv.net

Results from Live report thread by Probe 1.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
(Z)Sniper <Antiga Shipyard> (T)GuMiho
(P)Puzzle <Ohana> (P)AcE
(P)AcE <Whirlwind> (T)Hack
(P)Puzzle <Metropolis> (Z)Sniper
(P)Puzzle <Metropolis> (T)GuMiho
(P)AcE <Cloud Kingdom> (Z)Sniper
(T)GuMiho <Ohana> (T)Hack
(P)Puzzle <Cloud Kingdom> (T)Hack
(T)GuMiho <Atlantis Spaceship> (P)AcE
(Z)Sniper <Entombed Valley> (T)Hack


As the final two games could not affect who would advance, they were canceled.


Tie-breakers are head-to-head
(Z)Sniper: 3-0
(T)GuMiho: 2-1

(P)Puzzle: 2-2
(T)Hack: 1-2
(P)AcE: 0-3


Sniper and GuMiho advance to Code S!


On Target
– MVP.Sniper clears his group with a perfect record


MVP's (Z)Sniper showed that he wanted to waste no time putting last season's Code S disappointment aside, smashing through his group with a 3 – 0 record and confirming a spot in Code S Season 4. The promising Zerg player from MVP had shown high level games in both the GSL's lower leagues and the GSTL, but his first Code S appearance was cut abruptly short by super-veterans (T)mTw.SuperNova and (P)SK_MC. On the back of last night's Up/Down performances, another 0 – 2 for Sniper seems highly unlikely this time around.

Sniper dominated in his first game against (T)FXOGuMiho, covering the entire map in creep and expanding at will as his opponent went for the recently popular banshee-heavy style of mech. Sniper took advantage of Zerg's strengths, tech switching from muta-bane-ling to mass roaches to make sure Gumiho never had the correct mech composition. After running rampant over Gumiho in the field in several battles, Sniper capped off the game with brood lords.

His second game against (P)SlayerS_Puzzle was the toughest, as a dangerous two base immortal all-in proved to be almost lethal due to Puzzle's great use of force-fields. However, Sniper managed to barely hold out, and when Puzzle came with his follow-up all-in, he had enough infestors out to neutralize the Protoss force.

In the third and final game against (P)ST_AcE, Sniper was in the driver's seat again. AcE established a strong three expansion base on Cloud Kingdom, but he fell apart helplessly to backdoor attacks from Sniper once he tried to move out on the map and conceded a fast GG. The following two matches in the group confirmed that no one could match Sniper's 3 - 0 record AND beat him in head-to-head as well, thus confirming him for Code S.

– GSTL hero Gumiho comes in second place

Despite dropping his first game to Sniper, Gumiho managed to go through in second place due to some solid play, and the luck that invariably factors into the Bo1 group play of the Up/Down matches.

Gumiho's second game saw him fend off a 4-gate from Puzzle for a remarkably easy win. His third game proved to be much harder, as he fell behind heavily to (T)ST_Hack's hellion tactics in a mech TvT. However, Gumiho dug in and found a way to fight back, roasting Hack's SCVs with his own hellions and eventually forcing a highly advantageous base trade. Hack couldn't handle the base race nearly as well as Gumiho, and was forced to concede the game.

This put Sniper at 3 – 0, Gumiho at 2 – 1, Puzzle at 1 – 2, Hack at 1 – 1, and AcE at 0 – 3 in the group. Due to the fickle nature of head-to-head tiebreakers, Gumiho found himself in a situation where he could advance automatically in second if Puzzle managed to defeat Hack in the very next game. To Gumiho's fortune, Puzzle did just that, putting Hack away with his solid macro play on Cloud Kingdom. The two final games of the night were wiped off the schedule, and Sniper and Gumiho were free to go home early to enjoy their success.

Game of the Night
– (T)FXOGuMiho vs (Z)MVP.Sniper on Antiga Shipyard – Free VOD


It wasn't the closest game of the night, but it was the most eye-catching in the context of recent trends. After Mvp showed his banshee-heavy TvZ mech style at IEM Cologne, we've seen other Terrans try to immitate his style. TheStC brought an almost exact copy of the build to MLG Raleigh (no doubt, thanks to IEM's near instant release of tournament replays) with which he defeated Leenock, while Gumiho brought his own tweaked variation against Sniper. The crux of Mvp's style is the way he maintains 4~6 banshees in the mid-games, and Gumiho made two starports to pump out cloaked banshees very quickly while making mass orbitals with his extra minerals.

The interesting thing was Sniper's response. After fending off the banshees, he went for a large muta-ling-bane attack, which managed to trade decently well with Gumiho's army while failing to break through his lines. Whether or not it was intended from Sniper, this caused Gumiho to focus on making thors and hellions, which would prove to be fairly useless against the incoming mass-roach transition. With a few corruptors mixed in to take care of lingering banshees, Sniper was able to crush Gumiho's army several times on the battlefield before finally finishing the game off with brood lords.

You can't give Sniper too much credit here, as Gumiho barely tried to harass past the early game (something Mvp consciously tries to do when he mechs) and managed to get his army composition wrong constantly, but it was still intriguing to see how a skilled Zerg played it out against what could possibly be a rising style.





Writer: Waxangel.
Graphics and Art: Meko.
Editor: Waxangel.
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
August 29 2012 02:21 GMT
#2
Awesome write up as always Wax.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
opterown *
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Australia54784 Posts
August 29 2012 02:23 GMT
#3
my picks were correct yay
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DRTnOOber
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New Zealand476 Posts
August 29 2012 02:24 GMT
#4
Looking forward to watching the VODS when I get home! It seems impossible to pick these up/down groups, everyone is in with a chance.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
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United States93 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 03:05:34
August 29 2012 02:51 GMT
#5
Mech really doesn't seem like it would be Gumiho's forte. It's too sluggish for him to play to his strengths methinks.

Edit: The more I think about it he is pretty boss with his banshees...but eventually you move away from them in this style of play don't you? Seems like he would struggle with it at that point.
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Micronesia1338 Posts
August 29 2012 03:21 GMT
#6
very nice indeed...
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Aber
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Sweden332 Posts
August 29 2012 03:38 GMT
#7
Why did Thorzain drop out?
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lichter
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 04:56:06
August 29 2012 03:42 GMT
#8
On August 29 2012 12:38 Aber wrote:
Why did Thorzain drop out?


WCS (mistakenly said iem, lol) Europe or personal reasons.

Gonna watch the Gumi vs Sniper game. I really love Mvp's mech so it'd be interesting to see how other people execute it.
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United States93 Posts
August 29 2012 04:03 GMT
#9
On August 29 2012 12:38 Aber wrote:
Why did Thorzain drop out?

The group a preview said something about his health.
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bittman
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Australia8759 Posts
August 29 2012 06:03 GMT
#10
Good to see Sniper might not just be a flash in the pan.

Also happy Gumiho advanced. I still think both he and Leenock are potential big stars of the future if they can hit their stride. As it stands both are scary opponents, but still not of an untouchable champion quality. Guminock bros fighting~
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 29 2012 06:31 GMT
#11
On August 29 2012 15:03 bittman wrote:
Good to see Sniper might not just be a flash in the pan.

Also happy Gumiho advanced. I still think both he and Leenock are potential big stars of the future if they can hit their stride. As it stands both are scary opponents, but still not of an untouchable champion quality. Guminock bros fighting~


I remember when Leenock was on OtR, I asked what he thought about people thinking he and Gumiho were look-a-likes or bros and it got asked on the show. If I remember right Leenock just answered vaguely though
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United States25550 Posts
August 29 2012 06:41 GMT
#12
Awesome write-up as always. I shed a small tear for Hack, but someday he shall light the way for the Terran race.
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Mnky695
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2 Posts
August 29 2012 06:42 GMT
#13
On August 29 2012 12:38 Aber wrote:
Why did Thorzain drop out?


From Wax' Group A Recap/B Preview:

"(T)EG.ThorZaINRC
Unfortunately, ThorZaIN had to cancel his participation in the Up/Down matches. I suppose it's a bit of a boon for GomTV, since he was the only player in tonight's Up/Down group that would have had his flight to Korea delayed by typhoon Bolaven. Alas, there goes our chance of seeing a three-foreigner Code S tournament for the first time ever."

So it sounds like his flight was cancelled due to the risk of imminent plane death?
bittman
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Australia8759 Posts
August 29 2012 08:14 GMT
#14
On August 29 2012 15:31 lichter wrote:
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On August 29 2012 15:03 bittman wrote:
Good to see Sniper might not just be a flash in the pan.

Also happy Gumiho advanced. I still think both he and Leenock are potential big stars of the future if they can hit their stride. As it stands both are scary opponents, but still not of an untouchable champion quality. Guminock bros fighting~


I remember when Leenock was on OtR, I asked what he thought about people thinking he and Gumiho were look-a-likes or bros and it got asked on the show. If I remember right Leenock just answered vaguely though


From interviews and word of mouth (i.e. I forget the sources) Leenock isn't as much a fan of the comparison as Gumiho who actually enjoys it.
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United Kingdom1320 Posts
August 29 2012 08:36 GMT
#15
Thorzain had tonsillitis during Raleigh, and also wanted to focus on WCS Europe (in 2 weeks time)
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 29 2012 12:03 GMT
#16
So sad that both Hack and Ace weren't able to advance. Ace was showing some great play a few months back, but he didn't look very strong last night.
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Jampackedeon
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United States2053 Posts
August 29 2012 16:10 GMT
#17
It was an interesting group, I've thought Sniper was underrated for some time now so glad to see him shine here.
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