• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:18
CEST 20:18
KST 03:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup4StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)66Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2315
StarCraft 2
General
October World Ranking: herO stays #1, ByuN returns SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Awesome/Confusing SC2 BM
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site BSL Season 23 Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BW General Discussion Bot on ladder
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8519 users

[IEM] Cologne - Group Stage D1 Preview - Page 3

Forum Index > News
74 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 07:05:09
August 16 2012 07:02 GMT
#41
Waxangel i must say there is nothing better than sitting on a train to the venue with some good music on and reading your preview, the hipe just comes and comes

It will be a tough One for nestea considering how often he "underperformed" but ill look forward to him raping shit
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
August 16 2012 07:04 GMT
#42
A: Forgg, nericho, Sortof
B: Violet Feast MVP
crack
BooksmartDevil
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3 Posts
August 16 2012 07:14 GMT
#43
On August 16 2012 11:38 VictorJones wrote:
I have to disagree with a lot of what was written in this article.

Naniwa did not win in this situation. He came off as a whiner after losing to a no-name and a middling korean protoss


Nope. YongHwa is one of the best protosses in Korea, and one of the biggest public criticisms of the Code B qualification systems is that he hasn't been able to get through.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
August 16 2012 07:19 GMT
#44
Loser: Stephano
His trash talking was par for the course, but mostly served to remind us of how he dodged playing a showmatch with NaNiwa months ago.


♥ this part.

Need some dodger justice one of these days.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
August 16 2012 07:19 GMT
#45
This article was marvelous Waxangel ! Fun times
Liquipedia
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 08:28:02
August 16 2012 07:37 GMT
#46
I'm not sure what the TL writers have against Stephano, but it leads to some pretty heavy (and hilarious) cognitive dissonance
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
August 16 2012 07:50 GMT
#47
"No one can deny that at this point in their careers, Mvp and Nestea are living off their reputations to some degree. Their mechanics are definitely worse compared to their newer colleagues, and the games from their earlier championship runs have not aged very well when you wander back for a another viewing. "

Didnt we all agree that you cannot shit on mvp after winning a gsl with no wrists <.<
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 16 2012 09:25 GMT
#48
On August 16 2012 15:08 Kasaraki wrote:
Isn't it easier to just say MVP and NesTea are good players? Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Even this year, they have done more than most players will ever manage in their careers, when you think about it. I think this writeup is needlessly sensationalist, regarding both their ups and downs. Everyone can lose, it's actually very easy, but only few people can properly win.

And I seriously doubt LG would be worried about their sponsorship if they went out in a single tournament early, after winning GSL twice in a row.


People are so short on memory that Mvp just won GSL not so long ago. When most of the hyped players right now don't even come close to winning GSL.
cybstr
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany52 Posts
August 16 2012 09:47 GMT
#49
OMG, MVP without wrist problems has very good mechanics and would crush every other terran easily and dont forget how many builds and experience this guy has
benKrO71
Profile Joined September 2011
France65 Posts
August 16 2012 09:55 GMT
#50
stephano looser in this case ???? $

this case just proved that he is the best foreigner so far
Team Nuit Blanche Manager
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#51
On August 16 2012 18:25 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 15:08 Kasaraki wrote:
Isn't it easier to just say MVP and NesTea are good players? Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Even this year, they have done more than most players will ever manage in their careers, when you think about it. I think this writeup is needlessly sensationalist, regarding both their ups and downs. Everyone can lose, it's actually very easy, but only few people can properly win.

And I seriously doubt LG would be worried about their sponsorship if they went out in a single tournament early, after winning GSL twice in a row.


People are so short on memory that Mvp just won GSL not so long ago. When most of the hyped players right now don't even come close to winning GSL.


Yeah, isn't that the truth. And NesTea having a third place at IPL4 and Iron Squid, as well as staying in Code S every season. I think that might easily make him a top 10 player for this year alone? Something like that at least. Maybe top 15 if you want to be conservative.
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
August 16 2012 10:47 GMT
#52
Winner: NaNiwa
Refrained from saying "Joke tournament," thus avoiding burning yet another bridge.

Loser: Stephano
His trash talking was par for the course, but mostly served to remind us of how he dodged playing a showmatch with NaNiwa months ago.


LOL .

looser : naniwa. just loose to player against whom he's expected to win.

golden Troll award : stephano.

month ago or now, a showmatch between stephano and naniwa is just a big joke, naniwa dodge as much as stephano, best MU for stephano, worste MU for naniwa. it was not even close !

LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
August 16 2012 11:14 GMT
#53
, over me
Moderator
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 16 2012 12:56 GMT
#54
Are you seriously evaluating SortOf higher than Inori? Koreans are STILL dominating.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 13:02:41
August 16 2012 12:56 GMT
#55
group "favorite" IMO : (favorite don't always win, but it's how i feel they are from recent result / stream)
A : ForGG / Nerchio / SortOf
B : MVP / Violet / Feast
C : Bomber / Grubby / slivko
D : MC / Real / vortix

now ; I'm more than disapointed by lot of small thing in this event.

in no order at all :

- Tasteless seams "off", Like he seams off in lot of event recently. It looks like he doesnt enjoy what he 's doing anymore, it looks like he don't know the game anymore, or the player. Artosis do the job, pro as usual, but tired.

- Other game presentation inbetween matches... ok, it's gamescon... why not after all. (but at least hire people who know what to do in front of a crowd.)

- not enough set are casted.... even wihtout commentary, i'd like to see some match live... every other event have multiple stream why not here?

LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
August 16 2012 13:05 GMT
#56
On August 16 2012 20:14 NrGmonk wrote:
, over me


Damn, you beat me to it
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
Ramaloke
Profile Joined August 2012
Ukraine11 Posts
August 16 2012 14:35 GMT
#57
Plz, change 2nd occurrence of "Kas vs Violet" to "Feast vs Violet" on wiki
laerteis
Profile Joined August 2012
United States78 Posts
August 16 2012 16:52 GMT
#58
Waxangel having a little too much fun with this one .
support Axiom eSports http://www.axiomesports.com/
AngelOvUriel
Profile Joined April 2011
Cuba91 Posts
August 16 2012 17:20 GMT
#59
why is the price money for first place 6.5k ? kind of low if you ask me..prolly why naniwa feels its a joke tournament lol
ReaL | MC | NonY | HerO | Jangbi | Stork | Bisu | EffOrt | FBH | Hiya
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 16 2012 18:39 GMT
#60
Take that Waxangel part 2 !
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
AI Arena Tournament
02:00
Swiss - Round 4
Laughngamez YouTube
FEL
01:00
ScienceCraft Qualifier
IndyStarCraft 248
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 248
BRAT_OK 67
MindelVK 18
JuggernautJason12
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25758
Mini 412
Hyuk 199
firebathero 174
ggaemo 144
Dewaltoss 65
Mong 45
Hyun 36
ToSsGirL 25
Dota 2
Gorgc9594
febbydoto2
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor1380
crisheroes1076
Liquid`Hasu753
Other Games
Grubby3125
FrodaN2444
fl0m1018
Beastyqt752
KnowMe184
mouzStarbuck160
Livibee151
ArmadaUGS124
Mew2King54
Trikslyr47
ToD36
Chillindude28
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick969
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream36
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 78
• StrangeGG 50
• Adnapsc2 21
• LUISG 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 10
• blackmanpl 9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 8433
• WagamamaTV290
Other Games
• imaqtpie803
• Shiphtur299
Upcoming Events
BSL: Ladder Tournament
42m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 42m
INu's Battles
17h 42m
herO vs Classic
Percival vs Rogue
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
20h 42m
MilkiCow vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
BSL Open Qualifier
1d
BSL Open Qualifier
1d
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 15h
Rush vs Light
WardiTV Weekly
1d 16h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
2 days
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
INu's Battles
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Copium Cup
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.