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Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 07:05:09
August 16 2012 07:02 GMT
#41
Waxangel i must say there is nothing better than sitting on a train to the venue with some good music on and reading your preview, the hipe just comes and comes

It will be a tough One for nestea considering how often he "underperformed" but ill look forward to him raping shit
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Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
August 16 2012 07:04 GMT
#42
A: Forgg, nericho, Sortof
B: Violet Feast MVP
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BooksmartDevil
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3 Posts
August 16 2012 07:14 GMT
#43
On August 16 2012 11:38 VictorJones wrote:
I have to disagree with a lot of what was written in this article.

Naniwa did not win in this situation. He came off as a whiner after losing to a no-name and a middling korean protoss


Nope. YongHwa is one of the best protosses in Korea, and one of the biggest public criticisms of the Code B qualification systems is that he hasn't been able to get through.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
August 16 2012 07:19 GMT
#44
Loser: Stephano
His trash talking was par for the course, but mostly served to remind us of how he dodged playing a showmatch with NaNiwa months ago.


♥ this part.

Need some dodger justice one of these days.
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Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
August 16 2012 07:19 GMT
#45
This article was marvelous Waxangel ! Fun times
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m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 08:28:02
August 16 2012 07:37 GMT
#46
I'm not sure what the TL writers have against Stephano, but it leads to some pretty heavy (and hilarious) cognitive dissonance
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
August 16 2012 07:50 GMT
#47
"No one can deny that at this point in their careers, Mvp and Nestea are living off their reputations to some degree. Their mechanics are definitely worse compared to their newer colleagues, and the games from their earlier championship runs have not aged very well when you wander back for a another viewing. "

Didnt we all agree that you cannot shit on mvp after winning a gsl with no wrists <.<
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 16 2012 09:25 GMT
#48
On August 16 2012 15:08 Kasaraki wrote:
Isn't it easier to just say MVP and NesTea are good players? Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Even this year, they have done more than most players will ever manage in their careers, when you think about it. I think this writeup is needlessly sensationalist, regarding both their ups and downs. Everyone can lose, it's actually very easy, but only few people can properly win.

And I seriously doubt LG would be worried about their sponsorship if they went out in a single tournament early, after winning GSL twice in a row.


People are so short on memory that Mvp just won GSL not so long ago. When most of the hyped players right now don't even come close to winning GSL.
cybstr
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany52 Posts
August 16 2012 09:47 GMT
#49
OMG, MVP without wrist problems has very good mechanics and would crush every other terran easily and dont forget how many builds and experience this guy has
benKrO71
Profile Joined September 2011
France65 Posts
August 16 2012 09:55 GMT
#50
stephano looser in this case ???? $

this case just proved that he is the best foreigner so far
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#51
On August 16 2012 18:25 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 15:08 Kasaraki wrote:
Isn't it easier to just say MVP and NesTea are good players? Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Even this year, they have done more than most players will ever manage in their careers, when you think about it. I think this writeup is needlessly sensationalist, regarding both their ups and downs. Everyone can lose, it's actually very easy, but only few people can properly win.

And I seriously doubt LG would be worried about their sponsorship if they went out in a single tournament early, after winning GSL twice in a row.


People are so short on memory that Mvp just won GSL not so long ago. When most of the hyped players right now don't even come close to winning GSL.


Yeah, isn't that the truth. And NesTea having a third place at IPL4 and Iron Squid, as well as staying in Code S every season. I think that might easily make him a top 10 player for this year alone? Something like that at least. Maybe top 15 if you want to be conservative.
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
August 16 2012 10:47 GMT
#52
Winner: NaNiwa
Refrained from saying "Joke tournament," thus avoiding burning yet another bridge.

Loser: Stephano
His trash talking was par for the course, but mostly served to remind us of how he dodged playing a showmatch with NaNiwa months ago.


LOL .

looser : naniwa. just loose to player against whom he's expected to win.

golden Troll award : stephano.

month ago or now, a showmatch between stephano and naniwa is just a big joke, naniwa dodge as much as stephano, best MU for stephano, worste MU for naniwa. it was not even close !

LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
August 16 2012 11:14 GMT
#53
, over me
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 16 2012 12:56 GMT
#54
Are you seriously evaluating SortOf higher than Inori? Koreans are STILL dominating.
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zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 13:02:41
August 16 2012 12:56 GMT
#55
group "favorite" IMO : (favorite don't always win, but it's how i feel they are from recent result / stream)
A : ForGG / Nerchio / SortOf
B : MVP / Violet / Feast
C : Bomber / Grubby / slivko
D : MC / Real / vortix

now ; I'm more than disapointed by lot of small thing in this event.

in no order at all :

- Tasteless seams "off", Like he seams off in lot of event recently. It looks like he doesnt enjoy what he 's doing anymore, it looks like he don't know the game anymore, or the player. Artosis do the job, pro as usual, but tired.

- Other game presentation inbetween matches... ok, it's gamescon... why not after all. (but at least hire people who know what to do in front of a crowd.)

- not enough set are casted.... even wihtout commentary, i'd like to see some match live... every other event have multiple stream why not here?

LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
August 16 2012 13:05 GMT
#56
On August 16 2012 20:14 NrGmonk wrote:
, over me


Damn, you beat me to it
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
Ramaloke
Profile Joined August 2012
Ukraine11 Posts
August 16 2012 14:35 GMT
#57
Plz, change 2nd occurrence of "Kas vs Violet" to "Feast vs Violet" on wiki
laerteis
Profile Joined August 2012
United States78 Posts
August 16 2012 16:52 GMT
#58
Waxangel having a little too much fun with this one .
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AngelOvUriel
Profile Joined April 2011
Cuba91 Posts
August 16 2012 17:20 GMT
#59
why is the price money for first place 6.5k ? kind of low if you ask me..prolly why naniwa feels its a joke tournament lol
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 16 2012 18:39 GMT
#60
Take that Waxangel part 2 !
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