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[Code S] Finals Recap: MC vs Seed - Page 5

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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
July 27 2012 16:24 GMT
#81
Gratz Seed Isnt so bad having a toss champ and not being MC for diversity you know

That said the finals were incredibly bleh imo
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 27 2012 16:27 GMT
#82
Classic anti-climactic gsl finals.
I'm happy for Seed even tho I was cheering for MC and feel bad for him.
But MC doesnt need any more validation imo.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
July 27 2012 16:32 GMT
#83
On July 28 2012 00:08 crbox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:03 tehemperorer wrote:
With this PvP finals under the belt, I wonder if blizzard thinks something should be done about PvP since no one seems to enjoy watching it but it is out there. Its really boring when I play it but it just seems to be a reality of life kinda thing, but how do you make mirror matches fun to watch without screwing up general game balance?


Humm.. "No one seems to enjoy watching it (PvP & Mirror MUs)"

That's one hell of a statement lol. I certainly enjoy mirror MUs, especially PvP, and I don't even play protoss. While you might not like it, it's not a valid reason for blizzard to alter the game for your own little entertainement lol. PvP can be played in so many ways nowadays. In this series, we didn't get to see much, like phoenix builds, immortal / warp prism harass, etc. This series didn't really represent the match up really well IMO.

At least it's balanced! ^_^

Seeeeeeettle down, the general consensus is that the finals was boring and consisted two things: all-ins or colossi battles. You not playing Protoss is precisely why you enjoy mirror MUs, and the same reason that disqualifies you as anyone to talk about it. Why, at the top level of play, do you not see this matchup played in "so many ways?" Why do you think that is? Because it's not viable since nothing is safe. Any gold leaguer can muck around on the ladder with phoenix builds or DT expands, but they won't get you very far because they're not stable. You saying that this series didn't represent the matchup well is totally inaccurate; it summed up why PvP is the way it is: no Protoss defense can be consistently safe against Protoss offense.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 27 2012 16:37 GMT
#84
i think seed showcased enough in his previous matches. pvp is all about mindset and decision making and build order luck but most protoss should know how to play pvp already. 4 gate SAFE HEAVEN.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
July 27 2012 16:39 GMT
#85
I think we all know that SK sabotaged MC in order to keep his contract affordable.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
July 27 2012 16:40 GMT
#86
On July 27 2012 23:33 Surrealistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:30 pak150 wrote:
On July 27 2012 22:44 Bodzilla wrote:
was the most terrible let down for a finals ever.

i dont begrudge him his championship, but it's just not the same as one fought over longer games.
with the win, the way he did it, he wont cement himself with the likes of nestea, mc MMA DRG or MVP. He's going to have to do it again to actually be considered as one of the better players in the world.


I think NesTea vs. Inca still gets the award for worst final ever. This at least had some interesting mind games.

Losira ?


Oh wow, that one was so bad I forgot that it even happened
dj_holgie
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany12 Posts
July 27 2012 16:43 GMT
#87
Seed DID NOT outplay MC in absolutely no way. MCs only fault he prepared for these longer more entertaining games and Seed gave a shit about the entertaining element and that thousand of peoples were watching. Definatley not a good day for SC2 not a good day for E-Sports.
Pain is temporary glory lasts forever
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
July 27 2012 16:43 GMT
#88
On July 28 2012 01:32 tehemperorer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:08 crbox wrote:
On July 28 2012 00:03 tehemperorer wrote:
With this PvP finals under the belt, I wonder if blizzard thinks something should be done about PvP since no one seems to enjoy watching it but it is out there. Its really boring when I play it but it just seems to be a reality of life kinda thing, but how do you make mirror matches fun to watch without screwing up general game balance?


Humm.. "No one seems to enjoy watching it (PvP & Mirror MUs)"

That's one hell of a statement lol. I certainly enjoy mirror MUs, especially PvP, and I don't even play protoss. While you might not like it, it's not a valid reason for blizzard to alter the game for your own little entertainement lol. PvP can be played in so many ways nowadays. In this series, we didn't get to see much, like phoenix builds, immortal / warp prism harass, etc. This series didn't really represent the match up really well IMO.

At least it's balanced! ^_^

Seeeeeeettle down, the general consensus is that the finals was boring and consisted two things: all-ins or colossi battles. You not playing Protoss is precisely why you enjoy mirror MUs, and the same reason that disqualifies you as anyone to talk about it. Why, at the top level of play, do you not see this matchup played in "so many ways?" Why do you think that is? Because it's not viable since nothing is safe. Any gold leaguer can muck around on the ladder with phoenix builds or DT expands, but they won't get you very far because they're not stable. You saying that this series didn't represent the matchup well is totally inaccurate; it summed up why PvP is the way it is: no Protoss defense can be consistently safe against Protoss offense.


Well I play protoss and I enjoy mirror matchups. That said, my worst mu is PvP. (I'm in mid high masters). I think that there are ways to get into 2 base play fairly consistently, but neither player played very conservatively until the last game. All of the expand/techs we saw were really greedy in the first few. But it is past the day where expand = instant death.

HOTS has a really good chance to revolutionize this imo. Mothership core photon cannons, energize on a sentry for a lot of forcefields very quickly, and even energize for more chrono boost can change up the matchup and make defending significantly easier (for all matchups).
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Ozell
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada105 Posts
July 27 2012 16:47 GMT
#89
God, pvp is boring. I should have slept 4 more hours. -_-
Still, happy for Seed. MC has been outsmarted and that rarely happpens
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
July 27 2012 16:48 GMT
#90
On July 28 2012 01:43 dj_holgie wrote:
Seed DID NOT outplay MC in absolutely no way. MCs only fault he prepared for these longer more entertaining games and Seed gave a shit about the entertaining element and that thousand of peoples were watching. Definatley not a good day for SC2 not a good day for E-Sports.



Sorry but I think the real fans care about high-level play, not some kind of fake nr15 bullshit. seed came to win, and he did. something tells me mc came to win too...if he didnt, well then, he deserved to lose.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
July 27 2012 16:51 GMT
#91
On July 28 2012 01:43 dj_holgie wrote:
Seed DID NOT outplay MC in absolutely no way. MCs only fault he prepared for these longer more entertaining games and Seed gave a shit about the entertaining element and that thousand of peoples were watching. Definatley not a good day for SC2 not a good day for E-Sports.


That is just stupid. Seed did outplay MC. Because he chose tactics that work well against him. And if you did not see seed was going to macro game in the 2nd last game but MC all inned. And last game was also macro game WHICH SEED won convincingly with superior "colossus micro" if such thing does exist.

MC is good but please stop being idiot. Seed played really well and he deserved to win. He prepared well and MC did not well enough.

"Definatley not a good day for SC2 not a good day for E-Sports."

Well better than all those games going to late game where we will only see pointless laser wars.
If you mean the whole PvP finals i agree i dont want to see such thing anymore.

Poisonblack
Profile Joined May 2011
452 Posts
July 27 2012 16:56 GMT
#92
On July 27 2012 23:09 MythZero wrote:
Congratulations to IMSeed!

Even though I didn't watch! ^_^

lucky bastard
Repomies
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland73 Posts
July 27 2012 16:57 GMT
#93
On July 27 2012 23:06 Bizeheryer wrote:
Seed knew he had to cheese to have a chance against MC. So he took his shot, MC was expecting that he would fight like a man. It turned out otherwise. I think that is the reason for his aggresiv tweet. He will have a different mindset next time when he faces Seed.


What exactly do you mean by fighting like a man? If it is macro games you are referring to, Seed took the win there.
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
July 27 2012 16:58 GMT
#94
Seed wins code S, PvP finals, 4-1 slaughter, people hate him. Squirtle loses code S, close 5-4 finals, people go apeshit.

How you win it apparently matters more than winning to TL.
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
Yngvi
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands70 Posts
July 27 2012 16:59 GMT
#95
The moment he won the game was the best one ever! He wanted to undo his headphones and thats when it hit him...he is the reigning GSL champion. Also hugging the coach, what a baller. Grats Seed.
ItchyLegs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada369 Posts
July 27 2012 17:02 GMT
#96
i thought the finals were great!
-ForAiur-
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland28 Posts
July 27 2012 17:03 GMT
#97
GG's WHY ALLIN"S !! xD !
BesideHimself
Profile Joined November 2010
United States30 Posts
July 27 2012 17:05 GMT
#98
I didn't get the chance to watch, thanks for the recap (as usual) Wax.
“The purpose of life is to hydrogenate carbon dioxide."
balakai
Profile Joined June 2011
10 Posts
July 27 2012 17:07 GMT
#99
Yay! We finally got our PvP final, but the amount of cheeses was too damn high!
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
July 27 2012 17:07 GMT
#100
One of the few, it appears, that actually enjoyed the series, quite happy since i called seed winning this before RO8. I'll admit pvp is not the most entertaining MU but for a PvP series it looked like the highest quality one can find. Congratulations to the champion, i really hope he maintains this exceptionally high level play and doesn't do a jjakji.
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