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IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
July 19 2012 05:01 GMT
#81
Byun is not the Robin to MarineKing's Batman. If he continues winning, you will have to start calling MarineKing the Bumblebee to Byun's OptimusPrime.


^Best quote right there
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
July 19 2012 05:21 GMT
#82
On July 19 2012 10:41 Lightspeaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 09:48 plasmidghost wrote:
I want MC vs Seed so a Protoss can finally win a GSL after over a year's worth of sadness from me.


This. Also a PvP finals would be awesome.

No, no - wait till next season for Naniwa to become the next Protoss GSL Code S champion. For now, I'm rooting for either DRG or Byun (but maybe I'll always be happy to see MC win )
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Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 05:30:34
July 19 2012 05:27 GMT
#83
On July 19 2012 12:32 willyallthewei wrote:
I don't know how Fionn can write such a comprehensive, acute, and well thought out preview that hypes up Seed and Byun and how waxangel can somehow de-hype the matchup of MC and DRG and even go as far as to say, "well DRG is atleast as good as Nerchio and Stephano".

The second preview was piss poor, it was short, and didn't come even near the point. MC lost at Homestory Cup and NASL, yes admist the most grueling schedule thats ever been attempted in SC2, he flew from the Taeja Ro8 match directly to Canada for NASL without any rest and crushed Puma 3-0, proving he had ben practicing almost extensively PvT lately. MC has been focusing on GSL this season, and he practiced almost solely PvT games playing Ryung, MKP, and Tajea in all his matchups, its no wonder his PvZ ability slid. The question is can the two days preparation back in Korea allow him to get back to form in PvZ? That would be a much better story line than "foreigners are catching up, these two aren't as good anymore, oh well, i'll go w/ DRG.

Seriously, after reading that preview you'd think that Seed and Byun are a lot more hyped/decorated players than MC and DRG because of how poor the second preview was.



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Haustka
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
July 19 2012 05:44 GMT
#84
why do i get the vibe that MC is gonna take this from DRG...
Power of Human Will
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
July 19 2012 06:26 GMT
#85
On July 19 2012 14:44 Haustka wrote:
why do i get the vibe that MC is gonna take this from DRG...


Because MC is a total nerd baller Obama-Toss!!

That said, DRG is DRG. You mess with DRG, you gotta better be bringing out the BIG GUNS!

My prediction is that MC vs DRG is the 'real' finals this season and which ever of those 2 take their match wins this season GSL. And even if Byun / Seed beat the winner in the finals everyone will be sitting here thinking that the loser of this match would have beaten them and they got lucky in the outcome of this match.

Swap the semi-finals into ANY OTHER CONFIGURATION and I would call MC DRG finals without hesitation.
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
July 19 2012 06:50 GMT
#86
On July 19 2012 13:40 Wildmoon wrote:
Stephano won against MC only 1 time and he suddenly became the best ZvP in the world? -_-"


no, he's been winning for the past 6 months and zerg all around the world (including korea) are learning from his plays for zvp.

he's changed the metagame twice in zvp and once for zvt.

so no.
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
July 19 2012 07:37 GMT
#87
Great article!

In the section about seed it reads, "As the series went on, Symbol started to crumble and Symbol's confidence continued to grow with each minute." Second one should be Seed!
connoisseur
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
July 19 2012 08:10 GMT
#88
I want Seed or MC to make it to finals.. but I think DRG will be at finals.. Oh man, please let a Protoss champion arise!
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 19 2012 08:23 GMT
#89
On July 19 2012 12:32 willyallthewei wrote:
I don't know how Fionn can write such a comprehensive, acute, and well thought out preview that hypes up Seed and Byun and how waxangel can somehow de-hype the matchup of MC and DRG and even go as far as to say, "well DRG is atleast as good as Nerchio and Stephano".

The second preview was piss poor, it was short, and didn't come even near the point. MC lost at Homestory Cup and NASL, yes admist the most grueling schedule thats ever been attempted in SC2, he flew from the Taeja Ro8 match directly to Canada for NASL without any rest and crushed Puma 3-0, proving he had ben practicing almost extensively PvT lately. MC has been focusing on GSL this season, and he practiced almost solely PvT games playing Ryung, MKP, and Tajea in all his matchups, its no wonder his PvZ ability slid. The question is can the two days preparation back in Korea allow him to get back to form in PvZ? That would be a much better story line than "foreigners are catching up, these two aren't as good anymore, oh well, i'll go w/ DRG.

Seriously, after reading that preview you'd think that Seed and Byun are a lot more hyped/decorated players than MC and DRG because of how poor the second preview was.


I have to agree, although I would have phrased it a little less inflammatory. Your point is correct though. This isn't the first time Waxangel extrapolates foreign results to an unjustified degree but taking it to the point of talking down DRG vs MC of all people is pretty extreme.
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Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
July 19 2012 08:32 GMT
#90
On July 19 2012 13:58 JJH777 wrote:
Stephano is not better than DRG. If you put DRG vs MC on the NASL map pool DRG 4-0's him. Hell he still might 3-0 him tonight. MC has not looked at that absolute top tier in PvZ lately.

Have you guys ever considered that MC played poorly against Nerchio and Stephano cause he didn't want to show his new PvZs builds ?
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 08:33:35
July 19 2012 08:33 GMT
#91
On July 19 2012 14:01 Mutality wrote:
Show nested quote +
Byun is not the Robin to MarineKing's Batman. If he continues winning, you will have to start calling MarineKing the Bumblebee to Byun's OptimusPrime.


^Best quote right there


IMO...

MKP = Batman
Maru = Robin
Byun = Catwoman

Because Catwoman has the same potential as Batman but is independent while you can see early MKP style in Maru.

Polt = Nightwing

Because he was MKPs first sidekick who left because he became good enough to stand alone.

I hope Byun and MC advance.
Learn to count with CatsPajamas!
FatBat
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany326 Posts
July 19 2012 09:52 GMT
#92
I love these strenghts/weaknesses overview. They are so funny :D
"This game went full retard"- Totalbiscuit
Bartiemus
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand84 Posts
July 19 2012 09:52 GMT
#93
MC and seed fighting
Id rather just kill you and call it a day.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 10:13:56
July 19 2012 10:13 GMT
#94
current score 2-1 to byun?
Amove for Aiur
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
July 19 2012 10:35 GMT
#95
drg byun finals LETS GOOO
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 19 2012 10:57 GMT
#96
dear TL writers:

stop doubting SEEDU!!!!!
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 11:48:34
July 19 2012 11:48 GMT
#97
wrong thread
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
July 19 2012 11:50 GMT
#98
FUCK YEAR GOGOGOGOGO PVP FINALS

(3-0, a third 3 base play in the third game is what it is going to be)
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
July 19 2012 11:53 GMT
#99
The Fionn curse is strong in this one.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
PaWnStaR
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland27 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 12:15:06
July 19 2012 12:14 GMT
#100
Sooooooo sick! PvP incoming!!!!
Congratz to Seed and MC, such bosses!!!!

Final Boos for Seed now MC!
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