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[Code S] RO16 - Group A Recap/Group B Preview

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June 28th, 2012 00:35 GMT
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Code S RO16: Day One Recap


By: Probe1


Results from Live Report Thread by SeeKeR.
+ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +

Match 1
(T)Mvp <Entombed Valley> (T)TaeJa
(T)Mvp <Daybreak> (T)TaeJa
(T)Mvp <Whirlwind> (T)TaeJa

Match 2
(Z)viOLet <Antiga Shipyard 1.2> (P)Seed
(Z)viOLet <Daybreak> (P)Seed
(Z)viOLet <Entombed Valley> (P)Seed

Match 3
(T)TaeJa <Whirlwind> (P)Seed
(T)TaeJa <Antiga Shipyard 1.2> (P)Seed
(T)TaeJa <> (P)Seed

Match 4
(T)Mvp <Whirlwind> (Z)viOLet
(T)Mvp <Ohana> (Z)viOLet
(T)Mvp <> (Z)viOLet

Match 5
(T)TaeJa <Atlantis Spaceship> (Z)viOLet
(T)TaeJa <Antiga Shipyard 1.2> (Z)viOLet
(T)TaeJa <Daybreak> (Z)viOLet



Seed advances to Code S Ro8
TaeJa advances to Code S Ro8

Mvp falls to Code A Ro24
viOLet falls to Code A Ro24



Youth in Revolt
– Mvp and viOLet fall, Seed and TaeJa advance from Group A


If Mvp had the easiest group RO16, then what does Mvp going to Code A after only winning a single game tell us about the quality of the Code S RO16? The night ended up being headlined not by the five time finalist, but his LG-IM teammate, Seed. It was the same Seed that only managed to defeat BBoongBBoong in a Ro32 exit last season, who came back with a bloody 8-gate vengeance to top his group.

– Seed takes no prisoners:

Protoss: Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. If your opponent knows you win macro games, beat him with timing attacks. If the Zerg flanks you, blink into their main and forcefield their ramp. If your opponent hive rushes, disregard tech and acquire +3 blink stalkers.

You don’t have to like Seed. He knocked out many fan favorites, and some people won't be happy with how he did it. However, whether the games were exciting or not doesn’t matter in the end. Seed won convincingly, and was the best player in his group.

In his very first game of the night against viOLet, SeeD salvaged a failed blink-stalker all-in by blinking up into viOLet's main and taking a warp prism full of sentries with him. By force-fielding off the ramp and and demolishing the Zerg main, Seed was able to turn a near defeat into a certain victory. After a hiccup in Game 2, Seed ended the series on Entombed Valley with his innovative, triple nexus into 200/200 +3 blink stalker build, overwhelming viOLet with the sheer efficiency and numbers of his units.

Seed's next victim opponent, Taeja, put up less of a fight. Game 1: Seed 4-gates, Taeja attacks a neutral depot as stalkers walk up his ramp. GG. Game 2: Seed attacks eight minutes after the game starts and forcefields Taeja into a corner. Seed pushes Taeja into his main and denies the natural for several minutes. Taeja falls irrevocably behind and, less than eight minutes later, Seed returns with colossus and forcefields Taeja into a corner... again.

– Royal Pain

Besides Seed kicking down front doors everywhere, the defining part of Group A was relentless harassment. Both TaeJa and Mvp had to face viOLet as the group played out, and both decided that exploiting mobility was the best way to defeat a Zerg. While viOLet had the skills to 2-0 MVP, he won't easily forget the single marauder that hopped between his bases racking up an impressive 23 kills. In another game, TaeJa caught viOLet being far too greedy, going up to sixty drones with just two roaches and some queens to defend. Staring with a two medivac drop in viOLet's main, TaeJa ran a harassment clinic on viOLet all game, until the Empire Zerg was forced to GG out.

Game of the Night: Mvp vs viOLet, Game One

The game that made a thousand Terrans cry. After comfortably outplaying viOLet for the first twenty minutes of the game, Mvp allowed his lead to slip away as viOLet's brood lord-infestor army refused to open itself up to any logical counters. Mvp was quickly made to rue his choice to pump Thors as a makeshift counter, as the behemoths barely dented the broodlords before being scratched to death by broodlings. Slowly, but surely, the brood lord force erased Mvp's presense from the map, until there was nothing left.


Special mention:

Though he wasn't in studio, Nestea's presence was definitely felt as GomTV showed a heartwarming video short about the life and trials of the three time champion. Check out the entire video or enjoy this great .GIF made by KiNGxXx!
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Code S RO16: Group B Preview


By: Waxangel

Group B: (P)ST_Squirtle, (Z)TSL_Symbol, (T)MarineKingPrime, (P)SK_MC

Initial matches


(P)ST_Squirtle vs. (Z)TSL_Symbol

Symbol has been an absolute wrecking ball in recent months, singlehandedly accounting for a good chunk of Zerg-imba complaints. He's encountered and defeated almost every elite player in the world, and has kept the Zerg win-rate afloat in an ironically Terran dominated GSL.

As perhaps the second best Zerg player in the world, it's no surprise that the player Symbol resembles most is the best, DongRaeGu. When those two are playing at the top of their games, they look superior to their opponents in every aspect, whether it's micro, macro, game-reading, mind-games, or whatever other criteria one can think of. Even Code S opponents get utterly dismantled, looking like they belong in a different league. That kind of play makes his 9 - 0 GSTL record seem more obvious than impressive, and makes you wonder why he 'only' has a few top three finishes to his name.

This puts Symbol at a curious contrast with Squirtle, a player whose in-game performances aren't as dominant, but is considered a similarly elite player nonetheless. If you showed people Squirtle's games with his ID hidden, and asked people how far they thought he went in the GSL, I get the feeling many wouldn't be able to guess he was a runner-up.

Nonetheless, Squirtle wins a TON of games, which is all that really matters in Starcraft. If DRG is the imperfect analogy for Symbol, you can see shades of '12 Mvp or MC in Squirtle. You don't always understand how Mvp or MC win championships, but since they do, we accept that they must be really f***ing good. Similarly, I don't think many of us really understand how Squirtle went 32 - 17 at IPL4 or how he racked up a fourteen game winning streak in Code S, but since he did, we accept that he must be one hell of a player.

(T)MarineKingPrime vs. (P)SK_MC

For countless seasons, MKP has been chasing a GSL championship. It really looked like his time had come during Season Two, as he rode in on the momentum from winning two consecutive MLG championships. Then, out of nowhere, he showed us another one of his bizarre collapses (often seen when he comes out as the last runner for Prime), dropping two lackluster games to TaeJa and getting eliminated. Though his championship at MLG Columbus rid him of the "Kong" jinx, his career will always have a big, missing piece if he fails to win a GSL championship.

On the other hand, there doesn't appear to be a sense of much urgency for MC to win his third GSL championship. Fans seem content that he's already won two, so there's not much external pressure for him to hurry up and win a third. And unlike Mvp, who said he felt like he really needed to win a championship in 2012, you don't get the feeling that MC is killing himself for not doing better in the GSL in 2012. Well, I suppose winning a lot of dollars and euros can do that to you.

Whatever MC's motivations are, he's still a huge threat to win it all. Though he's not as consistent as some of his peers, MC typically follows up a bad tournament performance by hauling in the prize money elsewhere. No one has more "can beat anyone on a given day" potential than MC, and you can see how much his colleagues respect him from his third to last pick in the RO16 group selection.

MarineKing should be a massive favorite in this match if he plays anywhere near his best. He's the best TvP player in the world, and he only really loses when his opponents play perfectly, or if they find a way to kill him early. Though MC's made a lot a lot of progress since the days where all-ins were disproportionately his strongest weapon, he's still better off going for the latter option. Perfect drop defense, perfect tech transition timings, perfect battle selection, and perfect positioning... Not to say that MC couldn't do all of that, but a preparing a perfect DT all-in would be a lot easier.


Winners' match and onward

The initial matches are sure to be awesome, but it's the potential revenge matches in the winners' match and beyond that are the best part of this group.

PartinG has failed to avenge himself against MKP on multiple occasions, but Squirtle hasn't yet had the chance to redeem himself for his failure against MKP at the past StartaleQ vs Prime GSTL final. Much like MC vs MKP, that would be another match-up where MKP is heavily favored against the his Protoss opponent in straight up macro games. However, Squirtle has a plethora timing attacks at his disposal, including the famous 'Squirtle' colossus rush, and it would probably end up being closer than expected.

The single hottest match could be Symbol vs MarineKing. Not content with feuding with the #1 Zerg player in the world in DRG, MKP has started cultivating a rivalry with Symbol as well. MKP defeated Symbol at MLG Anaheim, only to have the favor repaid a few weeks later in Code S. Additionally, with ZvT being one of the biggest topics in Starcraft II at the moment, a match between two of the best players for each race will be sure to attract a lot of eyeballs (hi David!), thought it's unlikely to answer any questions.

Call me a hater, but the MC involved matches don't have as much back story behind them. There's still a baseline level of excitement I have for any MC match, as I wonder 'which fan favorite will the savvy veteran crush this time around?' If he were not so popular himself, MC would be the ultimate spoiler for any tournament. MC is a bandwagon derailer extraordinaire, and anyone riding high on Squirtle or Symbol should beware.

Prediction

Symbol > Squirtle
MKP > MC
Symbol > MKP
Squirtle > MC
MKP > Squirtle

Symbol and MKP advance.




















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Writers: Probe1 and Waxangel
Graphics and Art: Meko
Editor: Waxangel
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SilentVico
Profile Joined August 2011
United States128 Posts
June 28 2012 00:49 GMT
#2
nope I think its squirtle and symbol.
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Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
June 28 2012 00:50 GMT
#3
not much faith on MC in here, then again everyone is so good in this group, Symbol and MC to advance!
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Roflmeocatz
Profile Joined April 2012
1 Post
June 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#4
I disagree with the last prediction, I feel that Squirtle will 2-0 MKP, because he did beat him in IPL, but maybe I am just to much of a fan of squirtle.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 28 2012 01:04 GMT
#5
please please god of starcraft,
let there be a Symbol vs MKP match.
<333

moo...for DRG
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
June 28 2012 01:05 GMT
#6
Symbol and MC
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
June 28 2012 01:06 GMT
#7
...eh at least one of the Protoss will advance I think.
NAMeCHa
Profile Joined March 2011
36 Posts
June 28 2012 01:06 GMT
#8
Do Squirtle (IPL, GSL) and Symbol (Iron Squid, MLG) count as possible Kong Line candidates or no?

Anyways I'm a big MC/Squirtle fan but I have to agree with waxangel on this one. MC too inconsistent ~.~
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
June 28 2012 01:09 GMT
#9
Truly the group of death this season. Hoping Symbol can at least make it to RO8!
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
June 28 2012 01:17 GMT
#10
On June 28 2012 10:06 NAMeCHa wrote:
Do Squirtle (IPL, GSL) and Symbol (Iron Squid, MLG) count as possible Kong Line candidates or no?

Anyways I'm a big MC/Squirtle fan but I have to agree with waxangel on this one. MC too inconsistent ~.~

Not yet, no.
Mkp has 3 gsl 2nd places, and symbol and squirtle are just now showing their potential.
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XastoC
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada59 Posts
June 28 2012 01:20 GMT
#11
GoGo Squirtle! We need a new Protoss President!
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paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
June 28 2012 01:24 GMT
#12
It would seem like MC does not have much of a chance...but never doubt MC, MC and symbol to go through, somehow
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
June 28 2012 01:26 GMT
#13
If Symbol has to face MC he won't make it through. That said: Symbol's ZvP is not nearly as strong as his ZvT, so Squirtle most likely is his biggest hurdle. If Symbol passes Squirtle, he can get through the group.

Realistically I think Squirtle is too much boss mode lately in a more well rounded sense than Symbol who has sort of just burst into prominance heavily based on GSTL performances where they keep throwing Zerg and Terran at him.

I don't think MC can beat MKP on a MKP-good-day, but who knows. The group to me comes down to Squirtle.

If Squirtle beats Symbol, MKP will advance and Squirtle and MC will PvP their way to Ro8.
If Squirtle loses to Symbol, Symbol and MKP will advance.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 28 2012 01:30 GMT
#14
squirtle already beat mkp at ipl4 after the gstl fail =) it was the day after haha
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
June 28 2012 01:33 GMT
#15
On June 28 2012 10:30 opterown wrote:
squirtle already beat mkp at ipl4 after the gstl fail =) it was the day after haha

He also stunk up the joint at KSL final (well, so did everyone in ST).
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 28 2012 01:37 GMT
#16
oh hey thanks for contributing to the write-up probe1, you're an e-sports hero!
UpgraDDe01
Profile Joined June 2012
United States3 Posts
June 28 2012 02:08 GMT
#17
Squirtle Fighting!!!!!
ST_Squirtle #1
Isaac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States810 Posts
June 28 2012 02:15 GMT
#18
MC and MarineKing. Symbol will not win a set.
number one fan of marineking
BulletCL
Profile Joined April 2012
Chile138 Posts
June 28 2012 02:15 GMT
#19
In which VOD can I see the video about Nestea?
What, you run out of marines?
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
June 28 2012 02:38 GMT
#20
I think that MC should definatly be regarded as the weakest in this, group, but he is MC and his PvZ/ PvP should at least be on par with Symbol/ Squirtle, I also think that Squirtle's PvZ is better than Symbols ZvP, finally, i think that MKP should be favored against MC and squirtle and be regarded as about equal with Squirtle (Despite the fact Symbol has a better winrate v.s MKP, with each day the patcch effects on balance go down, so MKP and Symbol can be regarded as equal)
With the way the matches play out, and a hope that god will take mercy on us and give us Symbol v.s. MKP, I hope it will go like this
Symbol>Squirtle
MKP>MC
MKP>Symbol (very close and exciting)
Squirtle>MC
Squirtle>Symbol

but more realistically you could expect this
Squirtle>Symbol
MKP>MC
MKP>Squirtle
MC>Symbol
Squirtle>MC
Epic match ensue
MKP hwaittting
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Lolzre
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia27 Posts
June 28 2012 02:49 GMT
#21
Strong post Thank you
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
June 28 2012 02:52 GMT
#22
Not to sure....Ill go with Squirtle and Symbol though.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 03:01:42
June 28 2012 03:01 GMT
#23

However, whether the games were exciting or not doesn’t matter in the end.


The more sc2 articles keep telling me this, the more I wonder why they feel the need. Of course, I know the answer. I'm watching less Sc2 lately. I can only hope Browder has an awakening over the next 5 years.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 28 2012 03:12 GMT
#24
On June 28 2012 12:01 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +

However, whether the games were exciting or not doesn’t matter in the end.


The more sc2 articles keep telling me this, the more I wonder why they feel the need. Of course, I know the answer. I'm watching less Sc2 lately. I can only hope Browder has an awakening over the next 5 years.


I wonder if All-Ins in BW were as strong as SCII.
I've watched plenty of BW starting 2007-2008, but I've never seen as much cheesy play winning (except maybe for 3 hatch hydra bust) as I do in SC2.
moo...for DRG
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
June 28 2012 03:24 GMT
#25
Symbol and MKP easy. Symbol will win against MKP if their back and forth win-loss continues.
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flurbo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States6 Posts
June 28 2012 03:29 GMT
#26
I'm also wondering about where we can see the nestea video
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
June 28 2012 04:40 GMT
#27
man idk who advances tonight.. I think it all depends on who wins the first games more than anytthing.
Squirtle>Symbol
MKP>MC
Squirtle>MKP
MC>Symbol
MKP>MC

Man i really have no clue.Ill take one protoss and then MKP.. Im not buying into the Symbol hype until he wins something.
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OKScottish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States217 Posts
June 28 2012 04:40 GMT
#28
Please Please Please! I hope WaxAngels predictions are right!
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dearyuna
Profile Joined December 2011
United States322 Posts
June 28 2012 04:58 GMT
#29
On June 28 2012 13:40 OKScottish wrote:
Please Please Please! I hope WaxAngels predictions are right!


I hope so too. Pleaseeeeeeeeee symbol advance
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 28 2012 05:06 GMT
#30
I have the same predictions as Wax. Marineking has defeated Symbol 2-1 in the IPL5 qualifiers since the GSL ro32 but it was online so and marineking is typically pretty good online as long as he isnt the last player being sent out in a team league match. I dont think I can put too much weight on the IPL qualifier for GSL. I think Marineking and Symbol have the easiest time preparing for this group. They both only have to prepare for 2 matchups while Squirtle and MC have to prepare for all three. Also, Marineking is a top TvP player and technically only has to win vP twice to advance even if he were to lose to symbol. I think MKP will finally make it to the ro8 again. For some reason i cant help but get this feeling in my gut that marineking will make it to the finals and lose horribly again
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MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
June 28 2012 05:27 GMT
#31
I'd be satisfied with any combination except Symbol + MC. I feel Squirtle and/or MKP deserve better than to both go out here.
cronichazel
Profile Joined May 2012
United States81 Posts
June 28 2012 05:32 GMT
#32
Realistically, I see Symbol and Squirtle advancing.
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
June 28 2012 05:51 GMT
#33
Symbol's zvp has never said it can stand up to Squirtle.

MKP and Squirtle to get out. Symbol gets last.
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
June 28 2012 06:33 GMT
#34
mc and symbol wins this . no doubd
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Kyyuna
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1222 Posts
June 28 2012 06:41 GMT
#35
Fuuuuck this night gonna be da shiiiiiiiiiiiet
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
June 28 2012 06:54 GMT
#36
team symbol wins
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Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 11:35:04
June 28 2012 07:00 GMT
#37
This has the potential to be the best group ever, or just the biggest buzzkill. If Squirtle 2 bases Symbol and wins, there will be whining, if either protoss Deathballs to kill MKP there will be whining, if Symbol beats MKP by deflecting aggression with queens then infestor/broodlording to victory there will be whining, the only way people will be happy is if MKP and Symbol get out of the group, in that order.

Least Whining prediction:

Symbol > Squirtle
MKP > MC
Squirtle > MC
MKP > Symbol
Symbol > Squirtle

Most whining:

Squirtle > Symbol with 2 base attacks
MC > MKP Deathballin'
Symbol > MKP Anything with queens, or if it reaches late game.
MC > Squirtle PvP Happens.
Squirtle > Symbol same 2 base attacks as first set but even more one-sided.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
June 28 2012 07:29 GMT
#38
On June 28 2012 16:00 Dingobloo wrote:
This has the potential to be the best group ever, or just the biggest buzzkill. If Squirtle 2 bases Symbol and wins, there will be whining, if either protoss Deathballs to kill MKP there will be whining, if Symbol beats MKP by deflecting aggression with queens then infestor/broodlording to victory there will be whining, the only way people will be happy is if MKP and Symbol get out of the group, in that order.

Least Whining prediction:

Symbol > Squirtle
MKP > MC
Squirtle > MC
MKP > Symbol
Symbol > Squirtle

Most whining:

Squirtle > Symbol with 2 base attacks
MC > MKP Deathballin'
Symbol > MKP Anyhting with queens, or if it reaches late game.
MC > Squirtle VP Happens.
Squirtle > Symbol same 2 base attacks as first set but even more one-sided.


There is no way to ever make everyone happy. There will be whining regardless of the results.

I just wish to see awesome games. And I don't want MKP to lose because of his own greediness again.
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Diabulus
Profile Joined February 2011
Bolivia105 Posts
June 28 2012 07:48 GMT
#39
MKP wont advance and if he does, itll be because of some lucky breack where MC can no longer pressure and medivacs come out and MKP just 1-A-T to victory
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Sleet
Profile Joined January 2011
United States139 Posts
June 28 2012 07:49 GMT
#40
I can't believe all the people who think Symbol won't advance.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 28 2012 07:56 GMT
#41
the king comes for his throne
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ProphetFear
Profile Joined September 2011
United States11 Posts
June 28 2012 08:10 GMT
#42
Truth is MC is reaaaally unpredictable and has beaten DRG, MKP, and other amazing players in series around when they were the best. Symbol is not necessarily figured out as to what his potential and limits are so he may be super hyped right now but that doesn't mean he'll live up to it. Squirtle can be really unstoppable at times but that's a lot due his timings and his aggressive play I think. MKP was insanely strong in the first two MLGs and still in the ones after that but his invincibility aura isn't there anymore and everyone here has beaten him at some point this year.

This will be a reaaally good group.
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2212 Posts
June 28 2012 08:20 GMT
#43
I think Squirtle and Symbol will advance, MKP might, but i'm fairly certain that MC won't.
Cogito, ergo Toss
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
June 28 2012 08:34 GMT
#44
Really? No mention of Taejas awesomeness? And how you thought MVP would beat gim TWICE? You didnt even mention Taeja making RO8, TT
Regime
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia185 Posts
June 28 2012 08:39 GMT
#45
i think squirtle and symbol are in to good a form, symbol should win the entire thing :D
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 28 2012 09:04 GMT
#46
Reasonable predictions, but on the safe side. Anything could happen tonight.
Checkm8
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan627 Posts
June 28 2012 09:11 GMT
#47
B is for Death, trololol

On topic: Hope MC and MKP wins this, then cast the games in group C ^.^
Regenerating brain cells, please wait - - -
cronichazel
Profile Joined May 2012
United States81 Posts
June 28 2012 09:41 GMT
#48
Squirtle on a rampage... it begins haha

Last season left him hungry for sure ~
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
June 28 2012 09:43 GMT
#49
I wonder what could Symbol have done to stop that. He killed the nexus, made Squirtle waste almost all his force fields with a bunch of zerglings and kind of surrounded him in the final engagement yet he just lost. May someone enlighten me ?
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 10:11:24
June 28 2012 09:55 GMT
#50
On June 28 2012 18:43 Karpfen wrote:
I wonder what could Symbol have done to stop that. He killed the nexus, made Squirtle waste almost all his force fields with a bunch of zerglings and kind of surrounded him in the final engagement yet he just lost. May someone enlighten me ?


...
PvZ crap, PvZ crap everywhere...

P.S: I don't know how khaldor and wolf manage to stay calm in front of such blatant injustice. Truth is Protoss does not lose while 2-base pushing a Zerg without missing a forcefield. Squirtle's FFs were perfect, hence making his attack completely uncounterable.
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
June 28 2012 10:12 GMT
#51
My post was not meant to be a balance complaint, was just pure goldie curiousity but sure, everyone is entitled of an opinion.
Beleaf
Profile Joined July 2011
South Africa18 Posts
June 28 2012 10:19 GMT
#52
GO MC !!!!
I have stoped fighting my inner demons , we're on the same side now.
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 10:58:02
June 28 2012 10:22 GMT
#53
All races are equal, but Protoss is more equal than others.

P.S: that's right David Kim, you've just been ORWELLED YO
kmr
Profile Joined June 2012
1 Post
June 28 2012 10:39 GMT
#54
Where i can find the Nestea's video? I'm so excited to see this video, please if anyone knows..
MarsTheC
Profile Joined June 2012
Hong Kong3 Posts
June 28 2012 11:09 GMT
#55
who would have thought MC get out first!
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland753 Posts
June 28 2012 11:09 GMT
#56
OMG...the BossToss strikes again :O

(2x amazing hold vs Squirtle)
-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Unholy Alliance =-
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 28 2012 11:10 GMT
#57
wow...MC totally ruined your predictions.
moo...for DRG
poohzz
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)10 Posts
June 28 2012 11:10 GMT
#58
G_G BossToss for the champion
ㅈㅈ
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
June 28 2012 11:10 GMT
#59
Is there a way I can listen to the Korean Broadcast?
John 15:13
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 11:13:51
June 28 2012 11:13 GMT
#60
"It would seem like MC does not have much of a chance...but never doubt MC" I said this in the 11th post here, MC doing me proud once again, ,3 boss toss.

Prediction

Symbol > Squirtle
MKP > MC
Squirtle > MC
Symbol and MKP advance....LOL nice predictions waxangel :p, always hatin on boss toss, this is what you get


"who would have thought MC get out first!"...ehm, me =D
agac86
Profile Joined March 2011
Peru9 Posts
June 28 2012 11:13 GMT
#61
MC still the President Toss!!
xeidivick
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 11:38:03
June 28 2012 11:23 GMT
#62
whats the name of the song the kept repeating "was built to last" ?

edit: its "Redlight King - Built To Last"


why does MKP always looks hopeless against Symbol?
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
June 28 2012 11:39 GMT
#63
On June 28 2012 20:23 xeidivick wrote:
whats the name of the song the kept repeating "was built to last" ?

edit: its "Redlight King - Built To Last"


why does MKP always looks hopeless against Symbol?



because Symbol is REALLY good. And Zerg is just good in the MU overall nowadays.
xeidivick
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil12 Posts
June 28 2012 12:01 GMT
#64
MKP had an answer on Antiga though... lol
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
June 28 2012 12:03 GMT
#65
lol the prediction's couldn't be any more wrong XD. Squirtle fighting for second!
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
June 28 2012 12:19 GMT
#66
tvz is so boring these days. It says a lot when pvp is the most entertaining matchup
Amove for Aiur
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
June 28 2012 12:28 GMT
#67
Do TL writer really try to predict ? or this is just fan fiction prediction ?
really i have hard time remembering when was the last time a prediction comme fully true.

I's funny because on some french site they just copy TL prediction with even less knowledge about the game and try to make up some argument about it.
So they are even more wrong, if it's possible !

seams to me that each time a "new" player come in TL is all about it like it's the news boss who will kill them all ...and then...

I love reading your prediction but maybe it's time to change your way of seing things ^^
LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
June 28 2012 12:28 GMT
#68
On June 28 2012 21:19 Snusmumriken wrote:
tvz is so boring these days. It says a lot when pvp is the most entertaining matchup



trolling?
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 12:43:43
June 28 2012 12:33 GMT
#69
On June 28 2012 21:28 zedrOne wrote:
Do TL writer really try to predict ? or this is just fan fiction prediction ?
really i have hard time remembering when was the last time a prediction comme fully true.

I's funny because on some french site they just copy TL prediction with even less knowledge about the game and try to make up some argument about it.
So they are even more wrong, if it's possible !

seams to me that each time a "new" player come in TL is all about it like it's the news boss who will kill them all ...and then...

I love reading your prediction but maybe it's time to change your way of seing things ^^


Writers actually nailed it a few weeks in a row last month, this group was just super hard to predict.

Here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=342254

Perfect GSTL prediction which was a huge upset which pretty much no one else predicted. The analysis is pretty on the money too so it's not just like they threw a dart at the board.


+ Show Spoiler +
We're also still on track for maximum whining.

Squirtle > Symbol with 2 base attacks
MC > MKP Deathballin'
Symbol > MKP Anything with queens, or if it reaches late game.
MC > Squirtle PvP Happens.

Squirtle > Symbol same 2 base attacks as first set but even more one-sided.
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
June 28 2012 12:48 GMT
#70
On June 28 2012 21:33 Dingobloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:28 zedrOne wrote:
Do TL writer really try to predict ? or this is just fan fiction prediction ?
really i have hard time remembering when was the last time a prediction comme fully true.

I's funny because on some french site they just copy TL prediction with even less knowledge about the game and try to make up some argument about it.
So they are even more wrong, if it's possible !

seams to me that each time a "new" player come in TL is all about it like it's the news boss who will kill them all ...and then...

I love reading your prediction but maybe it's time to change your way of seing things ^^


Writers actually nailed it a few weeks in a row last month, this group was just super hard to predict.

Here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=342254

Perfect GSTL prediction which was a huge upset which pretty much no one else predicted. The analysis is pretty on the money too so it's not just like they threw a dart at the board.


+ Show Spoiler +
We're also still on track for maximum whining.

Squirtle > Symbol with 2 base attacks
MC > MKP Deathballin'
Symbol > MKP Anything with queens, or if it reaches late game.
MC > Squirtle PvP Happens.

Squirtle > Symbol same 2 base attacks as first set but even more one-sided.



lol well two or three good predictions don't make for a good foresight.
to be fair a huge majority of the predictions since the release have been completely wrong, but it's more due to starcraft being too coinflippy for 'great' players to constantly win than to TL staff being incompetent.
JayIsImbA
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany54 Posts
June 28 2012 13:03 GMT
#71
in your face preview :D GO MC
"More gg, more skill!" WhiteRa
Wolver
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia2 Posts
June 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#72
Cant find the Nestea vid can some1 please send me a link?
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 28 2012 13:19 GMT
#73
I'll take MKP and Squirtle but most of that is love for the players. I do think it'll be two of the three without a gsl trophy but MC has surprised me many times before.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
MallikaVRZO
Profile Joined April 2012
Thailand7 Posts
June 28 2012 14:05 GMT
#74
It's mc and squrtle not mkp and squrtle, please correct the post, sad.....
GLHF bro <3
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
June 28 2012 14:14 GMT
#75
MC and MarineKing!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 28 2012 14:22 GMT
#76
T_T
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Space Invader
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia291 Posts
June 28 2012 14:57 GMT
#77
Kinda incorrect use of 'irrevocably'. You should say irreversibly perhaps. Irrevocably just means, he was behind, and that's a fact, not, he was behind, and never coming back.
I may be of thome athithtanthe if there ith a thudden crithith!
Aoxer
Profile Joined June 2012
44 Posts
June 28 2012 16:09 GMT
#78
Symbol Vs MKP could be ground breaking for TvZ - go MKP! <3 (Pls let this match happen)

On the other hand, this group is aboslutely ridiculous, they're all players who are favourties for winning a GSL - gonna be insane :D
"No amout of macro will make marines beat banelings"
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 28 2012 17:30 GMT
#79
Where can I watch the nestea video? I can't find it anywhere.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 21:42:24
June 28 2012 19:53 GMT
#80
The Toss President with the preparation can still be a force to be reckoned with. Seems like he's always strongest when people write him off as the weakest in the group or whatever. Well done, MinChul!

Next opponent is TaeJa in Ro8, let's see how that will go.

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
good5321
Profile Joined June 2012
20 Posts
June 29 2012 07:54 GMT
#81
--- Nuked ---
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
June 29 2012 11:24 GMT
#82
On June 28 2012 21:19 Snusmumriken wrote:
tvz is so boring these days. It says a lot when pvp is the most entertaining matchup

How on earth is PvP more entertaining? You get behind be 1-2 units it's GG due to high cost high dmg units not to mention the almost rock paper scissor BO loses. Granted there were two exceptions last night to what I just said but that doesnt break a rule of PvP being terrible.
MC for president
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
June 29 2012 13:34 GMT
#83
On June 28 2012 09:50 Daogin wrote:
not much faith on MC in here, then again everyone is so good in this group, Symbol and MC to advance!


This guy knew it.

MC did great. So happy.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
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