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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37049 Posts
May 02 2012 18:17 GMT
#161
On May 03 2012 03:06 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 02:07 Mask DeMasque wrote:
On May 03 2012 01:15 Scvhero wrote:
can someone tell me who won? i missed it all darn sleep ^_^


MVP 3-1
PartinG 3-0

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or the LR thread -.-

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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
May 02 2012 18:22 GMT
#162
MVP has a wrist injury he is the macro terran. he played smart. naniwa didn't. the same reason naniwa lost to leenock at MLG in the finals.

so stop crying. cause you'd be the first to cream your pants if naniwa had won with cheese.

dont hate the player, hate the game. sc2 makes all cheese incredibly easy to pull off.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 21:00:16
May 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#163
On May 03 2012 03:09 CrixusRH wrote:
mvp the cheese terran. No respect.


-_-' why are 1 liners like this allowed. He cheesed TWO games, and won 1 very good game. How many times have 'fan favorites' done cheeses and been hailed for it? How bout MMA vs Mvp. proxy factory? where is the ZOMG MMA CHEESE TERRAN NO RESPECT. if nothing else, Mvp through time has PROVEN he can play macro, and HAS on more occasions than he has cheesed. To say such baseless statements as above is an insult to someone who has consistently won sc2 tournaments for a large part of 2011 based on his impeccable control, macro, and mechanics. So when he throws in the occasional cheese because ITS THE SMART THING TO DO, he no longer has your respect? ridiculous.


aggression > greed > standard > aggression

rock paper scissors. get over it.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 02 2012 21:13 GMT
#164
MVP has shown over his career he can play pretty much any style he wants. The only limit to him is his wrist. Naniwa is a good player, but his greedy style seems to get him in trouble in big matches. His "FFE or die" ended with die against Leenock's three consecutive roach busts. Here, pretty much the same thing happened.

Congrats to MVP for once again keeping everyone from putting nails in his coffin and to pulling himself closer to another Code S final with his damaged wrists. Congrats to Naniwa for playing well so far and exceeding pretty much everyone's expectations of him. I look forward to next season of Code S with both these players.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Justikhar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States56 Posts
May 02 2012 22:37 GMT
#165
Far more worthy of discussion is how good Parting is. I had a lot of concern for his PvP (obviously his PvT is best in class), but he simply out-classed Oz in every way. Naniwa, despite being the "foreign hope", had a performance that clearly showed him not even close to Parting. He had some interesting strategies, but the execution was nervous/sloppy (game 1 fast collosus build) and when pressured his micro and decision making was certainly not top tier (see cannon/probe control w/ FFE vs SCV rush)

For Protoss as a race, right now Parting is displaying the best strategies, decision making, and micro ..... that is why he's winning. Hard to say if he'll stay at such a high level in all areas though. His micro has been historically super high (MC level or better), but the other areas are affected over time by meta-game shift as well as changes to the actual game (patches, etc). Time will tell. For this GSL though, I'd put him as favorite right now, particularly considering what opponents remain.
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
May 03 2012 00:57 GMT
#166
On May 03 2012 07:37 Justikhar wrote:
Far more worthy of discussion is how good Parting is. I had a lot of concern for his PvP (obviously his PvT is best in class), but he simply out-classed Oz in every way. Naniwa, despite being the "foreign hope", had a performance that clearly showed him not even close to Parting. He had some interesting strategies, but the execution was nervous/sloppy (game 1 fast collosus build) and when pressured his micro and decision making was certainly not top tier (see cannon/probe control w/ FFE vs SCV rush)

For Protoss as a race, right now Parting is displaying the best strategies, decision making, and micro ..... that is why he's winning. Hard to say if he'll stay at such a high level in all areas though. His micro has been historically super high (MC level or better), but the other areas are affected over time by meta-game shift as well as changes to the actual game (patches, etc). Time will tell. For this GSL though, I'd put him as favorite right now, particularly considering what opponents remain.


With regards to the Oz games + Show Spoiler +
i know oz knows way more about the game than i probably ever will, and his understanding of everything is fantastic, but that nexus first with 1 cannon simply was baffling, i didnt think it was parting outclassing him it was more of a case oz dug himself into a deep hole, i dont see any code S protoss not being able to break that nexus first. Game 2 involved in my opinion the most fortunate timing of the 2nd immortal possible, if it came out earlier, Oz would have probably seen it and not blinked up, if it came out slightly later Oz would have probably broke through.

The 3rd game oz recovered incredibly well, coming out seemingly ahead after losing his DT shrine and doing nothing with the one DT he did warp in. I dont know if parting set up the trap of blinking into the main then blinking out and trapping Oz's units or if that was improvised, but prior to that oz was looking to be in a better position than parting in that game.
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
May 03 2012 06:22 GMT
#167
On May 02 2012 20:33 yoojaein0131 wrote:
i don't understand why you people bash MvP for the things he did..
okay so he cheesed but then again Naniwa cudn't counter any of those? why?
once or twice? he knew the rush was coming and still failed to def....
MVP might not have shown a good game but same goes to Naniwa for failing to defend rushes he KNEW were coming
it's not a good game from both sides when all things are said and done

Yeah I can't blame MVP for cheesing, its part of how he wins his championships. I think Naniwa just had too much of a mindset of "just doing enough" to get through the early game with a nice economy so he could let his decision making take over. In a few of those games, if naniwa just pulled all of his probes like a man he is way ahead. MVP was accurate in his interview when he talked about naniwas weak early game.
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j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
May 03 2012 20:59 GMT
#168
congratz to mvp. i cannot remember him ever cheesing so much in a bo5 gsl match. that is actually a compliment. i hope his wrist gets better soon, as i want to see the macro terran mvp rather than the cheezy one.
it could of course also be due to the fact that protoss are giving terrans a hard time right now.

but i agree, mvp's cheese was spotted a couple times, yet naniwa still wasn't able to stop it...
go jung, jong-hyun!
though parting's pvt should be on a (or two-three) different level than naniwas...
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
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