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robopork
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States511 Posts
May 02 2012 06:08 GMT
#721
On May 02 2012 13:44 Kergy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 13:42 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 02 2012 13:15 Captain Peabody wrote:
STORK!

Really, that's all I care about. Good press conference, guys!

+ Show Spoiler +
In other news, still veeeeerry ambiguous and kind of sad about the death of BW. Still, as long as I've got Stork and KHAN in SC2, I'll be okay.

There is someone named Khan in BW? Funny stuff.


I dare you say shit 'bout my team :<


I second that.

I never really fanboy'd on any teams or players in sc2. The closest would be hero, I guess.

But now we have khan back. Fuck yeah.
“This left me alone to solve the coffee problem - a sort of catch-22, as in order to think straight I need caffeine, and in order to make that happen I need to think straight.”
[Silverflame]
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany640 Posts
May 02 2012 06:08 GMT
#722
Song Byung Goo fighting!!!

I am only worried about Jaedong. Hope he gets a healthy mind set again soon!
Fav P Stork / Fav T Fantasy / Fav Z Hoejja
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
May 02 2012 06:10 GMT
#723
The skill gap between foreigners and Koreans wouldn't be that big in SC2, since there were not that many BW tournaments back then.


Well, BW pros are pretty much going to be AT LEAST on par with the current sc2 pro due to infrastructure and team support. And since the BW teams have more financial power, I could see them sending a lot of their players over to foreign events. Especially at the beginning because they want to expose their players to the international sc2 fanbase that didn't know much about BW. So you are going to see 2-3x more koreans at foreign events once Kespa feels comfortable sending them over.
eden-san
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium42 Posts
May 02 2012 06:12 GMT
#724
On May 02 2012 15:01 robopork wrote:
I've been staring at an empty text box for at least five minutes trying to figure out what to say to this. Any ideas?

Wow, if you just wasted 5 minutes of your time thinking about this, then I guess he's a happy (successful) troll.
Just ignore it.

On topic I am eagerly waiting for someone to summarize the conference, just got bits and pieces here and there but still pretty confused about the actual details and implications.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
May 02 2012 06:13 GMT
#725
On May 02 2012 15:01 robopork wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 02 2012 14:25 bbrian wrote:
Yes! Brood War is gone! I understand it's a great game but why insult SC2 players? You BW elitists think your so cool?


I've been staring at an empty text box for at least five minutes trying to figure out what to say to this. Any ideas?

"Do not take your frustration out on a very respected game with an enourmous history and wish it death just because the path that SC2 has taken does not appeal to somebody with a heavy BW background, no matter how vocal they may be about it. BW doesn't deserve death."

Sounds OK, maybe.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
May 02 2012 06:16 GMT
#726
On May 02 2012 15:01 robopork wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 02 2012 14:25 bbrian wrote:
Yes! Brood War is gone! I understand it's a great game but why insult SC2 players? You BW elitists think your so cool?


I've been staring at an empty text box for at least five minutes trying to figure out what to say to this. Any ideas?


Maybe the mods will righteously brandish the ban hammer. Gotta be a huge douche to insult the dead at a funeral.
hydrogg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States377 Posts
May 02 2012 06:17 GMT
#727
On May 02 2012 15:10 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
The skill gap between foreigners and Koreans wouldn't be that big in SC2, since there were not that many BW tournaments back then.


Well, BW pros are pretty much going to be AT LEAST on par with the current sc2 pro due to infrastructure and team support. And since the BW teams have more financial power, I could see them sending a lot of their players over to foreign events. Especially at the beginning because they want to expose their players to the international sc2 fanbase that didn't know much about BW. So you are going to see 2-3x more koreans at foreign events once Kespa feels comfortable sending them over.


They won't be going to foreign events once Proleague starts. That's about 2 matches per week every week that they have to prepare for and attend.
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 06:22:03
May 02 2012 06:19 GMT
#728
On May 02 2012 15:01 robopork wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 02 2012 14:25 bbrian wrote:
Yes! Brood War is gone! I understand it's a great game but why insult SC2 players? You BW elitists think your so cool?


I've been staring at an empty text box for at least five minutes trying to figure out what to say to this. Any ideas?


He is kind of right. I have loved pro BW for over a decade, yet I have no reason to think its not passed its prime and that everything else sucks including the same game with a 2 next to it. Not sure I'm THAT happy about it finishing but hey shit happens, and finally we can see all the great BW pros, both passed and current battle it out on a new playing field. It's going to be epic.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
May 02 2012 06:20 GMT
#729
On May 02 2012 15:17 hydrogg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 15:10 vthree wrote:
The skill gap between foreigners and Koreans wouldn't be that big in SC2, since there were not that many BW tournaments back then.


Well, BW pros are pretty much going to be AT LEAST on par with the current sc2 pro due to infrastructure and team support. And since the BW teams have more financial power, I could see them sending a lot of their players over to foreign events. Especially at the beginning because they want to expose their players to the international sc2 fanbase that didn't know much about BW. So you are going to see 2-3x more koreans at foreign events once Kespa feels comfortable sending them over.


They won't be going to foreign events once Proleague starts. That's about 2 matches per week every week that they have to prepare for and attend.

Hard to say how it'll end up being structured. I'm fairly sure things like that will be taken into consideration.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
May 02 2012 06:21 GMT
#730
Gotta be a huge douche to insult the dead at a funeral.


To be far, it is not like the BW fans are just 'mourning' BW. They are also very aggressive about telling everyone that sc2 sucks and is for noobs. I think that both sides have their 'aggressive' fans and it is just going to take time to have it settle down. Of course, it would be better if both sides are able to see where the other side is coming from but it is the internet, one 'out of line' comment from an individual poster can get things escalated very quickly.
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
May 02 2012 06:21 GMT
#731
On May 02 2012 15:10 vthree wrote:
So you are going to see 2-3x more koreans at foreign events once Kespa feels comfortable sending them over.


I don't know. The only big foreign events, imo, are IPL and MLG. MLG has that stuff where they have qualifiers for each region, and the top players from those regions all go to the tournament. That is pretty diminishing to game quality if roughly 1/3 of the players are Koreans. It also reduces the possible exposure of fresh faces from Korea.

Honestly, it really irritates me that MLG does that stuff. I don't care who is playing. I just want to see great games. Watching either poor games, or players being noticeably outclassed, is not fun.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 06:27:10
May 02 2012 06:24 GMT
#732
They won't be going to foreign events once Proleague starts. That's about 2 matches per week every week that they have to prepare for and attend.


I think one of the primary reasons for the move is that sponsors want more international exposure. So I think they will find some way to at least send some players over for the big events.

MLG has that stuff where they have qualifiers for each region, and the top players from those regions all go to the tournament.


That is only for arenas. All players are allowed to try to qualify at the championships via open brackets. You don't see as many sc2 pros doing this now due to the cost and the difficulty of trying to make a run from the open brackets. But with sponsors for BW, the cost is probably not as prohibitive.
Rellit
Profile Joined March 2012
Singapore92 Posts
May 02 2012 06:32 GMT
#733
the thing im afraid of is the huge influx of koreans into foreign tournament, that could kill the foreign scene as it will restrict the growth of foreign talent
frezMki
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
May 02 2012 06:35 GMT
#734
Hm pretty ... "weird" coverage atm

Since 2hours watching at a cake?! Thats probably not the right way to say "pause now, brb at XX:XX o'clock"
They say if it's not broken don't fix it - Well, if it could be better it is as good as broken
Deimos0
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Poland277 Posts
May 02 2012 06:47 GMT
#735
So here we have our elephant. It's sad day for BW, but great for players, community and game itself (I mean SC2). Being fan of both products it's strange moment, but I hope everything will be good and competition will be even harder now. Looking forward to some great games
protect me from what I want
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
May 02 2012 06:49 GMT
#736
On May 02 2012 15:01 robopork wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 02 2012 14:25 bbrian wrote:
Yes! Brood War is gone! I understand it's a great game but why insult SC2 players? You BW elitists think your so cool?


I've been staring at an empty text box for at least five minutes trying to figure out what to say to this. Any ideas?

Let's just hope the hammer comes out. Obvious troll is obvious with 9 posts. His last post, "Can't wait to see Brood War disappear!" Way to kick something while it's having its last breath.
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 06:51:35
May 02 2012 06:50 GMT
#737
A: We don't know if this is the last BW OSL or not, it all depends on a lot of conditions.
Best line of the day. BW OSL is not dead... yet.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
jumbotroN
Profile Joined April 2010
Peru229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 06:53:37
May 02 2012 06:52 GMT
#738
On May 02 2012 15:32 Rellit wrote:
the thing im afraid of is the huge influx of koreans into foreign tournament, that could kill the foreign scene as it will restrict the growth of foreign talent


look at what is happening now, not a single foreigner could reach Jinro's high (semifinals) in the GSL, foreigners are not as good as koreans because you simply don't have the competition koreans have (they practically win what equals to foreigners finals to get near to qualify to Code A). Also take a look at what foreigner players get more exposure and compare their e-fame/e-relevance to their results (i.e. IdrA, Destiny, most of the EG roster, etc). The foreigner community is mainly drived by hype instead of results.

It is assured that Koreans will dominate SC2 even harder now that BW is going away and all the focus will be on one game.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1921 Posts
May 02 2012 06:53 GMT
#739
hm not sure what to think of the live commentary... doesn't seem to provide any useful information at all tbh... got a a bit hyped by the announcement of this conference, but am still clueless about what's actually being said there!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 06:55:08
May 02 2012 06:54 GMT
#740
I think this going to be bad in many ways for SC2. Proleague really doesn't fit into the current world of MLGs, IPLs and Dreamhacks. If Kespa players aren't allowed to compete internationally at will the whole scene will suffer.

Plus there's the whole "free agency" BS. (A rule designed to stop players from switching teams when their contract ends.) Unless they scrap that it will be extremely hard to attract foreign players to Kespa teams. I don't see Kespa addressing either of these issues. I'm thinking in their mind SC2 is going to be like BW except with English commentary and more international viewers.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
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